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JetBlue To Look At Bullet Proof Doors; 3x Security  
User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Posted (12 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

Miami's FOX news affiliate reports jetBlue is considering placing solid, bullet-proof doors on thier entire A320 fleet. Also, at FLL and other airports, jetBlue is taking an extra step were all passengers must go through three seperate ID secuirty checkpoints. jetBlue is the #4 carrier on America's most traveled airline route, Miami-New York, and the #1 carrier between Ft. Lauderdale and JFK, and will continue with plans to reach 8 daily flights between FLL and JFK by mid-December, the 7th to be added on 1 November. Another move by jetBlue that puts them yet another step ahead of the game.


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User currently offlineB747-337M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Maybe Dave Neeleman didn't notice, but there weren't any guns involved in the last incident.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32691 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

B747-337M, come on, tell that to El Al, who has had bullet-proof cockpit doors on thier whole fleet for a very long time. And who is to say a highjacker won't bring a gun on board (and don't tell me airport secuirty will notice it, because they may not)? Plus, bullet proof doors also keep hijackers out of the cockpit. Unlike the week, standard doors right now, they can't be opened by force ("stabbing" the door, ramming into it, etc., etc.).


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User currently offlineB747-337M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 1906 times:

Unlike the week, standard doors right now, they can't be opened by force ("stabbing" the door, ramming into it, etc., etc.).

Umm... I beg to differ on that issue. I've had a lot of experience with "bulletproof" devices and have assisted an airline with a security review dealing with this specific scenario. Basically, a kevlar cockpit door provides protection against bullets and nothing more. El Al uses a completely different armored cockpit system.


User currently offlinePilot1113 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

Bulletproofing can come from many areas and Kevlar is just one substance.

I thought JetBlue would go the extra mile. This maybe "stupid" according to some, but it's actually brilliant! Another great PR move by Neeleman, plus it does add another layer of security. You can never had enough checks and balances. As we've learned from past events, it's very easy for one guard to miss something.

- Neil Harrison


User currently offlineB747-337M From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Kevlar is just one substance.

Kevlar is the most logical substance because of its weight and properties. There are others, but none with acceptable characteristics.

You can always go with an armored cockpit though. Does JetBlue really need armored cockpits? I say no, but thats just my opinion.


User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4780 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

For heavens sake we have plexiglass walls to protect city bus drivers...I'm sure we can do even better for our pilots. An immediate retrofit should be done ASAP.

User currently offlineMCOtoATL From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 12 hours ago) and read 1863 times:

First, it's a wonderful PR move. Let's face it, many people are afraid to fly, and if they can show that they are going the extra mile to ensure safety, then they may pick up some passengers (and respect.)

Many pilots agree that a secure cockpit door would help tremendously. I agree that bullet prrofing alone may not be enough, but modeling one's security after El Al is a great thing.


User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

All aircraft should have armored doors and bulkheads behind the cockpit, and should remain locked as long as the plane has passengers aboard.

Kinda useless having armored doors if they are always open.

Charles


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