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LAX - Proud Bird Restaurant To Close  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24820 posts, RR: 46
Posted (10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12889 times:

The aviation themed restaurant adjacent to the 25-Runway complex is set to close on November 21st after 48-years.

The restaurant which sits on 8.3 acres of commercial property has been without a permanent lease since April 2011.
According to LAWA the restaurant has been paying below market value rents and has been unable to reach a new rental agreement for the site.





Story:
http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-n...nt-at-lax-announces-plans-to-close

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[Edited 2013-09-26 09:11:45]


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User currently offlinebeechtobus From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12793 times:

Noooooo!! My mother brought me there for my middle school graduation dinner 25 years ago. The awesome filet while watching the birds go into the 25s and the old planes all over the grounds was definantely a formative in my developing love for aviation. I really hope a resturant remains should the lease get taken over.

User currently offlineaerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4681 posts, RR: 47
Reply 2, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12654 times:

What a shame. Too bad


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User currently offlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12590 times:

That Really Sucks. I Love the Sunday Brunch, and the Dinners. Its a Good place to have Meetings, Close to work.
I hope there is some chance of reprieve. Thanks for the link.


User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12567 times:
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What a shame! I'm glad I got to go there for a quince años. It will be missed  

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12462 times:

Personally this does not come as a surprise.

It just seems things have been slow in recent years, especially compared to the 90s.

The parking lot seems rather quiet always, and I have not attended any airline or government related events there in ages. It seems they have not attracted to volume of business of past years.

Also probably does not help, the place is getting old, both the interior and exterior show their age with seemingly these guys not putting money back in to the place to freshen it up. After all the restaurant and event hosting business is very competitive industry especially in a market like LA where one has so much choice.



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User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 842 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12399 times:
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Tons of great memories. Sunday Brunch after church. Memorabilia shows in the 90s. High School awards dinners. But the best were from the early 70s when we kids rode our bikes from home in Manhattan Beach and camped in the parking lot all day armed with a Radio Shack Jetstream VHF radio tuned to 118.9.

Tomas SJC



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User currently offlineairzim From Zimbabwe, joined Jun 2001, 1199 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 12375 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 5):

Did this place have any connection to Continental? The old CO was headquartered close by and their slogan was (IIRC) the Proud Bird with the Golden Tail before their move to Houston.

I always assumed it had some tangental connection.


User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5890 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 11985 times:
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Where are they going to move the airplanes on display? I hope LAWA doesn't trash them!

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7448 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11762 times:

I was wondering, was there some kind of chain restaurants like this back in the day ? There used to be one by BUF. Plus the one by MIA and this one @ LAX .


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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (10 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 11721 times:

Too bad, there was a similar restaurant outside of DC in College Park, MD called the 94th Aero Squadron. It overlooked the runway at CGS.


oh boy!!!
User currently offlineorganizethesky From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11426 times:

NOOOOO! That makes me a little sad. Visited twice and loved the old world feeling as well as the view.

This place reminded me of the aero squadron restaurant at STL.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11380 times:

It always makes me laugh to hear a landlord claim the tenant won't pay "market" rates for a property. Unless there are others pounding on their door, begging to lease the property, the rate the tenant offers to pay is the market rate. Usually, the landlord thinks that it's too hard for the business to move so they have them over a barrel, but as we see, it's cheaper just to CLOSE than to pay a "market" rate for this property.

How long will it take to find a new tenant? Can't build anything tall there, right under the flight path, and a lot of companies wouldn't want to be located there.

Is Wally Park going to build a facility there? How long will it take? How many years will it take the landlord to recoup the months of no rent they will endure rather than coming to a more agreeable "market" rate for the property. How many pennies-wise will this pound-foolish landlord be? Or do they have someone lined up?

You see this all the time in LA. Just talking to a friend today who had a tile store in Burbank, landlord felt a 20% raise in rent in 2008 was reasonable, friend didn't agree and moved his business instead of paying extortion, building went unrented for 18 months!

If you are going to take a stand on rent, you better be prepared.



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6406 posts, RR: 39
Reply 13, posted (10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11351 times:

I watched the final Space Shuttle landing from there. Sad news indeed. Someone should rally In-N-Out to open a chain there; and spotters will rejoice at having 2 good LAX approach locations with decent food!


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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1343 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 11168 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 13):

Actually, that may not be a bad idea. The other one will be destroyed when LAX pushes the 24s north soon.



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User currently offlinen92r03 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 334 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 11110 times:

Great memories there in the mid 90's.

There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country. One was at PIE, but closed early 90's. Another was at Montgomery Field in San Diego, not sure if it is still open.


User currently offlineflyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 11040 times:

A sure sign that the apocalypse is upon us...I hope there are plans for all of the planes and that they get moved before some damn wrecker from the landlord comes in and just crushes them. There are some great planes there.

Mike


User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 10988 times:

Thanks for the news. My wife already wants to go spotting when Hello Kitty is there, so it works out, especially if it is Wednesday when my daughter plays soccer in Manhattan Beach.

Quote:
airport spokeswoman Nancy Castles said the company has not sent an official letter of termination to Los Angeles World Airports, the restaurant’s landlord.

So it isn't exactly a done deal. Possibly the Proud Bird leaked this story to get some public response passed on to the LA City council.

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 12):
Unless there are others pounding on their door, begging to lease the property, the rate the tenant offers to pay is the market rate.

  

LAWA's responsibility is to operate their airports efficiently. If they think they should get more rent for on-airport property, they can and should try. If they get the increase, they have done their job. If they accept whatever they can get, they have done their job. If they find a way to keep an asset like Proud Bird on the property, they have done their job. If they let it go vacant without a good reason, then the people of LA lose out, even though the Proud Bird's rent is less than a rounding error in the city budget.



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User currently onlineQantas59 From Australia, joined May 2013, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 10983 times:
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What type of planes are parked there?

User currently offlinen7190jr From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 months 2 days ago) and read 10946 times:

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
Great memories there in the mid 90's.

There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country. One was at PIE, but closed early 90's. Another was at Montgomery Field in San Diego, not sure if it is still open.

As part of the same restaurant group, we had 56th fighter group restaraunt here at FRG. Most in the chain are closed now, and I can relate to the same feelings everyone has had about the Proud Bird as I had the same connection to the 56th.....broke my heart when it closed. Looks like ill have to plan a trip to LAX to check this one out before its too late!



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User currently offlineGARUDAROD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10889 times:

The end of an ERA, that's for sure.
I remember many LAACA meetings and Christmas parties being held there.
It was always a good place to run into other Airline Sales reps as they took a lunch break there.
Also used to be home to the LAX Airliner shows, before the Embassy Suites, and before the Hacienda.
My favorite thing their besides the buffet, was the headsets by the windows that allowed you to
listen to the tower communications with the arriving and departing aircraft.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6382 posts, RR: 17
Reply 21, posted (10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10866 times:

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country. One was at PIE, but closed early 90's.

One @ SRQ also.



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User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7155 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (10 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 10793 times:

I might pop by for one last visit on my trip to LAX next month. That was my first ever Spotter's location I visited in the US.

User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6406 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (10 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 10225 times:

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 14):
Actually, that may not be a bad idea. The other one will be destroyed when LAX pushes the 24s north soon.

Oh yeah, forgot about that.. This could be a decent alternative then. But whatever happens, I hope the site remains as an area to be able to spot from. It's fantastic for winter evenings.



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User currently offlineflyabunch From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 517 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (10 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 9777 times:

By no means a complete or precise list. From memory and google earth!

Republic P47N
Bell X1 - replica
Lockheed P-38
Mig 15
North American P-51D
SBD-5 Dauntless
Grumman TBM Avenger
Fokker D VII
S.P.A.D. XIII
Messerschmitt BF-109
Beech Mod. 18
Chance Vought F4U Corsair
Curtiss P-40
Lockheed P80
Douglas A4C
Grumman F6F Hellcat

All and all a very nice group of planes.

Mike


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12884 posts, RR: 100
Reply 25, posted (10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9394 times:
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Who is up for brunch this Sunday? (September 29th?)

It is sad, so we might as well see her off!

I actually never ate there, but I would walk around the place during lunch walks when I used to work a short distance away.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinealphazulu From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 266 posts, RR: 19
Reply 26, posted (10 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9308 times:
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Ah… The Proud Bird. My memories of the place goes back more than 40 years with my first visit in the late 60’s. Over the years I have probably eaten there more than 70 times with family and friends. One memorable occasion was dining there before I departed on my honeymoon to Hong Kong back in 1982. We traveled on a World DC-10 from the West Imperial Terminal (now the Flight Path Museum) to Oakland. From there we took World 1 (747 swing nose) to Seattle, on to Anchorage, then to Taipei, and finally Hong Kong. I most certainly will be dining there one more time before they close.
As Bob Hope would say…. thanks for the memories Proud Bird! You will be sorely missed.

Paul


User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 8
Reply 27, posted (10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9321 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 12):

I think you're reaching. A lot of people own their property outright and only pay incremental RE taxes on it. You're under much less of a burden if so. Leesors usually have a reason to do what they're doing, unless under duress.



oh boy!!!
User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9165 times:

Aww, that's too bad if it all goes through. I hope whatever turns up to replace it, if anything, keeps their parking lot open. The place had been looking somewhat shabby I guess... I last ate there on my birthday in 2009, but I've hung around nearby for arriving aircraft many times since.

User currently offlinetristan7977 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

I recently went there for my 16th birthday, on July 7th. I might as well go to for the last time, before it closes....   


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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 30, posted (10 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9139 times:

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 27):

Opportunity cost and lost revenue. Unless you have a new tenant lined up, you are often very foolish to raise the rents on an old tenant beyond what they can pay. Commercial properties are more valuable with long term leases attached even if not at the top potential rent. Forgoing a year's rent as your property sits empty can take a decade to make up.

LAWA may have another tenant or use lined up. We will find out. My wager is on parking facilities.



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7448 posts, RR: 7
Reply 31, posted (10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6868 times:

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country.



So it was a chain . I only ate at the one @ BUF once . It was sort of hard to find if you didn't know how to get back there . Great spotting location,too . It closed around 2004. How could I ever forget being threatened for arrest by the lovely NFTA for 'not having permission to be there ' spotting in 2005. Um,it's closed ??? The place sat derelict for years until the helicopter medivac people took it over .



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User currently offlineHighflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 673 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6214 times:

This is a shock to all we anetters who have patronized the Proud Bird over the years for all sorts of occasions; a meal before an overseas flight, birthdays, Christmas and retirement parties.

Specialty Restaurants and David Tallichet Jr. could (and should) be exploring nearby locations. After all another airline crew favorite, Paco's Cantina, burned down in the original location on Lincoln Blvd. and resurrected afterward on Manchester.

I can't picture LAX without the Proud Bird any more than Cleveland Hopkins without the 100th Bomb Group.

[Edited 2013-09-27 06:31:19]

User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2492 posts, RR: 23
Reply 33, posted (10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6117 times:
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Quoting ikramerica (Reply 12):
Unless there are others pounding on their door, begging to lease the property, the rate the tenant offers to pay is the market rate. Usually, the landlord thinks that it's too hard for the business to move so they have them over a barrel, but as we see, it's cheaper just to CLOSE than to pay a "market" rate for this property.

Yes and so it goes. Time changes everything.
Have great memories from that place.



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User currently offlineATLTPA From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5721 times:

What a shame! This makes me so sad as I have so many memories of this place.

One of them was eating there on September 12, 2001. Absolutely eerie to see LAX so still that day.

ATLTPA


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9772 posts, RR: 27
Reply 35, posted (10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5447 times:
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Ahhh, I guess I'll finally have to go eat there before it closes....

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 10):
Too bad, there was a similar restaurant outside of DC in College Park, MD called the 94th Aero Squadron.
Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country.

Van Nuys has one too. Overlooking the runways as well.



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User currently offlinezrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3118 posts, RR: 9
Reply 36, posted (10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5394 times:

I go a few times a years. Best visit was to celebrate the 102 birthday of California's oldest female vet. She was a riveter in WWII, so a luncheon there made sense.

On her 100th birthday, she celebrated by reading from the Torah and becoming a Bat Mitzvah!



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24820 posts, RR: 46
Reply 37, posted (10 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Here are some bits of info..

The restaurant was paying $217,200 annually for rent under a multi-decade agreement that expired in 2011. Pending a new agreement this rent continued.

Current market rent for the facility based on this existing LAWA rates, the revised rent would be $510,000 annually.
LAWA does not have any discretion to modify rental rates on per tenant basis, per LA City charter, and the Proud Bird would need to pay current rental rates in effect as all other tenants pay.

Proud Bird says the current market rate makes the restaurant not feasible.

Also apparently Proud Bird owners will try to work with museums around the US to take over some of the aircraft that sit around the property.



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User currently offlinePellegrine From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 2358 posts, RR: 8
Reply 38, posted (10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4474 times:

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country. One was at PIE, but closed early 90's. Another was at Montgomery Field in San Diego, not sure if it is still open.
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 35):
Van Nuys has one too. Overlooking the runways as well.

I really had no idea there were multiples. I do not think it was a chain of the same owners though. My grandfather used to take me to the one at CGS, the food wasn't that good, I think he just liked it because he fought in the war.



oh boy!!!
User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 538 posts, RR: 1
Reply 39, posted (10 months 19 hours ago) and read 4168 times:

Quoting airzim (Reply 7):
Did this place have any connection to Continental?

No, the restaurant was founded by David Talichet. He started the whole themed restaurant business concept back in the 50's or 60's. In the mean time, he became a large vintage aircraft/War bird collector with his planes placed in museums across the country.

At one point, he owned over 150 aircraft, registered under the MARC (Military Aircraft Restoration Corp) name. However, later in his life, especially after filing bankruptcy, he began selling them off. He has since passed away, and his estate continues to pull planes out of the museums who have been restoring them and selling them off.

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 10):
Too bad, there was a similar restaurant outside of DC in College Park, MD called the 94th Aero Squadron. It overlooked the runway at CGS.

94th Aero Squadron was also Talichet's, so more or less, the same company

Quoting Qantas59 (Reply 18):
What type of planes are parked there?
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
Also apparently Proud Bird owners will try to work with museums around the US to take over some of the aircraft that sit around the property.

Most of the planes there are fake fiberglass replicas. If the Canopy is white, it is a fake. Not only did they make fake aircraft for their restaurants, but they also were able to get some aircraft from the military that were either up on poles or were gate guards by replacing them with fiberglass copies.

Due to our Experiences with MARC, I would be highly surprised to see them at a museum, without that museum first buying them.

[Edited 2013-09-27 22:10:38]

[Edited 2013-09-27 22:11:48]


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User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4363 posts, RR: 19
Reply 40, posted (10 months 18 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 39):


Quoting airzim (Reply 7):
Did this place have any connection to Continental?

No, the restaurant was founded by David Talichet. He started the whole themed restaurant business concept back in the 50's or 60's. In the mean time, he became a large vintage aircraft/War bird collector with his planes placed in museums across the country.

Not sure if I can believe this, Continentals slogan for years was 'the proud bird with the golden tail' and I have heard the restaurant had a connection with CAL, it seems too 'coincidental'


I went there years ago, honestly, it had seen better times, faded would be a generous description.
Nevertheless it is a real shame.



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User currently offlinerlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (10 months 14 hours ago) and read 3889 times:

There was a 94th Aero Squandron at SNA also. The one in San Diego is still open.


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User currently offlinejetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1639 posts, RR: 10
Reply 42, posted (10 months 10 hours ago) and read 3724 times:
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Quoting flightsimer (Reply 39):
Most of the planes there are fake fiberglass replicas. If the Canopy is white, it is a fake. Not only did they make fake aircraft for their restaurants

I remember eating at an Aero Squadron restaurant at FXE in the early 1980’s where they had some airplanes parked outside on the grass between the restaurant and the runway and one of them was a P-51.

I asked the manager if that was a real P-51 and he said no, it was a fiberglass replica. He knew that the real ones were worth a lot of money and that they had inquiries in the past if they would be interested in selling the airplane, but when he told them is was a fake that ended the conversation.

JetStar


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21474 posts, RR: 60
Reply 43, posted (10 months 10 hours ago) and read 3697 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):

Ah, government. Gotta love it.

Will be interesting to see who's going to pay $40k a month for that land.

At that rate there's no chance the two sides can come to an agreement.



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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12884 posts, RR: 100
Reply 44, posted (10 months 4 hours ago) and read 3496 times:
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SInce no once replied on brunch, I'm going their tomorrow morning with a non-airliners.net friend.

I hope someone shows up. IM me if you're going. But for now, I plan to reserve a table but for two.

http://www.theproudbird.com/proudbird/brunch.aspx

Lightsaber



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User currently onlinealfa164 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 386 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (10 months 4 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

Quoting United_fan (Reply 31):

Quoting n92r03 (Reply 15):
There are/were 94th Aero Squandron restaurants around the country.

So it was a chain .

The same group owned a small chain of "Quiet Cannon" restaurants. Are any of them still around? There was one right next to the (docked) Queen Mary, and I do remember one in San Jose as well. The current Montebello location of the same name doesn't appear to be one of the original group.


User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 538 posts, RR: 1
Reply 46, posted (10 months ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting Max Q (Reply 40):

Trust me, the museum I'm involved with has dealed with Tallichet, or since his death in 2007, his estate, since 1987. He built and paid for our hangar out of his own pocket.

He started the themed restaurant business along with his partner who was involved with theme parks. While the name may have been inspired by CAL, CAL was not a part of the restaurant in any way that I know of.

Quoting jetstar (Reply 42):

As for the replicas, a lot of bases have them as well. In fact the P-51K Mustang (same as D, just built in Dallas) we had of his was procured from the Air National Guard. It was a Ramp guard that was up on a pedestal and was practically brand new when they took it down. In return for the plane, he gave the ANG two P-51 replicas.

However, after he broke the agreement he made for the procurement of the aircraft, the ANG and most other branches changed the way they dealt with people who wanted aircraft. It's very, very hard to get one now unless the base is closing and it otherwise would be destroyed.



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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3138 times:

I had a wondereful dinner there with a friend a few years ago. I loved the overhead landings.

User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4363 posts, RR: 19
Reply 48, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

Quoting flightsimer (Reply 46):

Trust me, the museum I'm involved with has dealed with Tallichet, or since his death in 2007, his estate, since 1987. He built and paid for our hangar out of his own pocket.

He started the themed restaurant business along with his partner who was involved with theme parks. While the name may have been inspired by CAL, CAL was not a part of the restaurant in any way that I know of.

Thanks for the information, another illusion of mine goes up in smoke !



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User currently offlinejetstar From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1639 posts, RR: 10
Reply 49, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 2774 times:
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One thing I remember when I ate at the Aero Squadron at FXE around 1980 was all the tables by the windows that overlooked the runways had headsets so you could listen in to the tower.

That particular restaurant was set up as a WWI field hospital and the waitresses wore WWI nurse uniforms and they also had an outside sitting area with a fire pit that was set up as a bombed out bunker. I looked at Google Earth and the building is gone, torn down but the parking lot is still there and nothing has been built on the site of the restaurant.

I was dating a girl back then who lived just up the road so we often stopped in for a few drinks or sometimes dinner, great memories.

JetStar


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12884 posts, RR: 100
Reply 50, posted (9 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2573 times:
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I had brunch today with two 'non-aviation' friends and it was excellent. We ended up taking a 3 hour brunch. Although by the end, I was bored with all the UA 737s and DL 757s. Was the VS, KLM, and BA 747s were interesting... THe highlight was watching a cargo 777F taking off that that seemed to b barely accelerating. Definately loaded...

It was fun plane spotting and seeing the old planes. Good food. I wish I had gone earlier.

Lightsaber



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Reply 51, posted (9 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2318 times:

This is too bad!

I'll make sure to have one more visit before it closes.

The777Man



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