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N935AT First DL 717 At MIA  
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4520 posts, RR: 7
Posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 10163 times:

Just saw my first DL 717. It just flew past my window here in Miami on it's way to land at MIA. Apparently this is some kind of test flight that left MIA at noon and returned one hour later. Nice looking plane in real life!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N935AT

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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 9620 times:

We'll probably be seeing a lot of DL 717s at MIA since that's where the company FL uses for 717 heavy maintenance is based at and will be playing a role in the process of getting the FL planes ready for their transfer to DL. Any word if DL will continue to use FL's contractor for 717 heavy maintenance or will they do it in-house?

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9384 times:

Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
Just saw my first DL 717. It just flew past my window here in Miami on it's way to land at MIA. Apparently this is some kind of test flight that left MIA at noon and returned one hour later. Nice looking plane in real life!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N935AT

On a side note,when they flew for FL ,you could never track them by reg . I tried , hoping to get the specail color ones here .



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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 8555 times:

It would be neat if DL would paint a 717 in the Skyteam livery, also like to see a CR9, CR7, 744, and E175.


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User currently offlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8267 times:
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What is the proposed delivery date now?


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User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7867 times:

Quoting bigbird (Reply 4):
What is the proposed delivery date now?

I think it is Monday. The plane will not go into service right away. Once DL takes possession there is more that needs to be done. That work will be done in either MIA or VQQ. I think it is mostly inspections by DL reps.


User currently offlineawacsooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7828 times:

Somehow, the 717 in the DL livery just looks right...unlike the AA 319

User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7521 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 5):
I think it is Monday. The plane will not go into service right away. Once DL takes possession there is more that needs to be done. That work will be done in either MIA or VQQ. I think it is mostly inspections by DL reps.

The first couple of frames will be looked over by maintenance control, flight operations and inflight services prior to entry into service. I expect you will see them by the DL hangars in ATL.

I am looking forward to flying on one. The 717 looks great in the DL colors.



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User currently offlineDC9super80 From Denmark, joined May 2013, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7204 times:

Yeah it looks awesome  

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7505 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7133 times:

I bet when this 717 was delivered to TW , nobody would have ever expected to see 'Delta' on the side one day  


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User currently offlinerockyracoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 976 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6992 times:

Nice to see the first in-flight pictures uploaded. Looks sharp. I've enjoyed my flights on the 717 in the past.

User currently onlinetrnswrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 948 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

It looks great in Delta colors, just as it did when it was new flying with TWA . Here is a great picture of the plane already in its future home town 
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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6689 times:

Quoting bigbird (Reply 4):
What is the proposed delivery date now?

EIS is tentatively scheduled for November. No idea what date though.



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User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6023 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 1):
We'll probably be seeing a lot of DL 717s at MIA since that's where the company FL uses for 717 heavy maintenance is based at and will be playing a role in the process of getting the FL planes ready for their transfer to DL.

It's always great to see something different in at MIA especially a company 717. I can remember flying into MIA on company -3's-------barely--------but, I do remember. I remember taxying past the old out-door mx facility on a -7 and laughing at a couple of -46's in there for mx. There was no shortage of -46's at MIA! Glad to hear there will be no shortage of 717's either.



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User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting awacsooner (Reply 6):
Somehow, the 717 in the DL livery just looks right...unlike the AA 319

I have to totally disagree. At least with the first part of your statement. I think that this might be THE worst 717 livery I have ever seen.



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User currently offlinejetlanta From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 3310 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5813 times:

Looks pretty good to me!


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[Edited 2013-09-27 07:29:56]

User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5733 times:

Why put the SkyTeam logo on the passenger door? It would seem better to put it to the right of the door that way during boarding in the jetway passengers could see it. Just my thought.


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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 970 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5379 times:
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Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 16):
Why put the SkyTeam logo on the passenger door? It would seem better to put it to the right of the door that way during boarding in the jetway passengers could see it. Just my thought.

This is the same way all the MD-88s and MD-90s are done. I don't think they want it crowding the Delta logo.


User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1352 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5250 times:

Quoting timf (Reply 17):

This is the same way all the MD-88s and MD-90s are done. I don't think they want it crowding the Delta logo.

True although even on the CRJ's they put the SkyTeam logo to the left of the passenger door, and WiFi on the right side of the door.



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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4520 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4659 times:

Quoting jetlanta (Reply 15):
Looks pretty good to me!

What a coincidence. That picture was taken just 2 or 3 minutes after I spotted the plane flying past my apartment and starting this topic!  


User currently offlinebigbird From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4539 times:
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Since they were supposed to be originally in service on 19/9 will they have 6 or 7 in the fleet by 01/11?


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User currently onlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3198 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4424 times:
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Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 14):
I have to totally disagree. At least with the first part of your statement. I think that this might be THE worst 717 livery I have ever seen.

Really? I guess it's all about taste. I think it looks smart. The 717 will surely be an asset to DL's fleet.



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User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2571 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 7):

The first couple of frames will be looked over by maintenance control, flight operations and inflight services prior to entry into service. I expect you will see them by the DL hangars in ATL

Every airframe will be indoc in either MIA or VQQ. They spend like a week at either vendor and then go into service. The 739 will be going through indoc in ATL at the same time so I think that is why we are using a vendor. The first two should be ready by the tenth of Oct.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 4017 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 22):

The latest written statements I saw internally was mentioning November. Maybe I was looking at something about the 739..



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User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3971 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 23):
...was mentioning November.

Please see--- Delta 717 EIS Delay- How Long And Why?

Delta 717 EIS Delay- How Long And Why?

[Edited 2013-09-28 08:21:50 by SA7700]


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User currently offlinecomairguycvg From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 4013 times:

Looks sharp. Any reason why the back half of the engines have to be grey? Didn't seem to really stick out as much on AirTran planes, maybe because the engines are blue. But it looks like it really sticks out with the white engines. Reminds me of a part that got replaced and hasn't been painted yet to match the rest if the plane...like nose/tail cones that need replaced.

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

Quoting comairguycvg (Reply 25):

Yes that's interesting, as the engines weren't fully painted on the TWA aircraft either? Does anyone know why?


User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5736 posts, RR: 5
Reply 27, posted (1 year 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3868 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 26):
Yes that's interesting, as the engines weren't fully painted on the TWA aircraft either? Does anyone know why?

I can only assume that the engine exhaust has to bare for some reason, I'm not sure why though.

IMHO it looks worse on HA and QF as their tail liveries extend down over the fuselage:


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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 28, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Quoting ImperialEagle (Reply 13):
It's always great to see something different in at MIA especially a company 717. I can remember flying into MIA on company -3's-------barely--------but, I do remember. I remember taxying past the old out-door mx facility on a -7 and laughing at a couple of -46's in there for mx. There was no shortage of -46's at MIA! Glad to hear there will be no shortage of 717's either.

The 717 is such a natural fit for DL--what an opportunity to lease a whole fleet in one transaction. They will be around for a long time.

I always enjoyed taxiing past "Cockroach Corner" at MIA during the mid 70's. I would almost be hanging out on a wing trying to see Constellations, DC-6's and -7's and, of course, the C-46 in cargo configuration with many Central American and South American freight carriers. Later it became the home to many early model 707's, 720's and DC-8's. I remember seeing early Pan Am 707-120's parked at the end of one of the runways--I think that three sat there for quite a while.

Now it's been cleaned up and is not nearly as interesting. Guess I will have to go exploring in Latin America--MNL is a great spot to see some long-parked airplanes.



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User currently offlinehoMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

Quoting jetlanta (Reply 15):

Seeing that picture (and, more specifically, the description) had me thinking. These could wind up being the last planes flying with a TWA customer code (31).

Other than the 717s, I think most of the last new-build Boeing jets TWA got were ILFC (with a Q8 code). If DL gives these 717s anywhere close to the life the DC-9 or MD-80 fleet has, then you have to figure any TWA-ordered 757s and 767s will have long since been sent to the desert.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 30, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

Quoting hoMsar (Reply 29):
Other than the 717s, I think most of the last new-build Boeing jets TWA got were ILFC (with a Q8 code). If DL gives these 717s anywhere close to the life the DC-9 or MD-80 fleet has, then you have to figure any TWA-ordered 757s and 767s will have long since been sent to the desert.

Delta does have some 757-231s, as some of the ex-TWA 752s they acquired were ordered by them and others were ordered by ILFC. But you're probably right about the ex-TWA 717s likely being the last TWA coded planes to be flying by the time they're retired. The newest TWA coded 752s in Delta's fleet were delivered in 1999 and the last was delivered in January of 2000. Only the first 10 752s in TWA's fleet at the time they ceased operations had the Q8 code, the rest had the 31 code.


User currently offlinehoMsar From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 30):
Only the first 10 752s in TWA's fleet at the time they ceased operations had the Q8 code, the rest had the 31 code.

Interesting. For some reason I was thinking their non-ILFC 757s were older. In that case, if any of those wind up going through freighter conversion, they might compete with the 717s in being last to the scrapyard.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 32, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Quoting hoMsar (Reply 31):
Interesting. For some reason I was thinking their non-ILFC 757s were older. In that case, if any of those wind up going through freighter conversion, they might compete with the 717s in being last to the scrapyard.

One of them ended up being converted into a freighter for FX (After TWA/AA, it went to Transmeridian, then to Ethiopian before being converted to a freighter last year.). Considering the age of some the 752s in Delta's fleet, it is likely these ex-TWA birds could be with the airline for quite a few years.


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 33, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 32):

One of them ended up being converted into a freighter for FX (After TWA/AA, it went to Transmeridian, then to Ethiopian before being converted to a freighter last year.). Considering the age of some the 752s in Delta's fleet, it is likely these ex-TWA birds could be with the airline for quite a few years.

The former NW 752's in the 5500 series are slowly being retired as are many of the early DL 752's.

There is a great new book that I highly recommend called "Junkyard Jets." They have incredible photography of the scrapping/parting out process with many former NW and DL aircraft featured.

It is always sad to see airplanes that I spent so many years on being cut up. It seems almost obscene. Old friends gone forever but the memories will be around for a long while.

I still have my original 757 workbook from Northwest Orient in 1985 that we had to complete prior to qualification class just immediately before the first deliveries.



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 34, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2666 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 33):

The former NW 752's in the 5500 series are slowly being retired as are many of the early DL 752's.

I'm aware of that. What I was saying is that the ex-TWA 752s could end up spending another 15-20 years with the airline based on how old of their 752s currently in the fleet are.


User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1680 posts, RR: 7
Reply 35, posted (1 year 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2451 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 34):

I'm aware of that. What I was saying is that the ex-TWA 752s could end up spending another 15-20 years with the airline based on how ld of their 752s currently in the fleet are.

Sorry--got a tad off thread there. Of course, you are correct. The former TW 757's have many years and cycles ahead of them. Unless DL decided to do away with the entire 757 fleet, anyway.



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