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Amazing Swissair Boeing 747 Video  
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 19778 times:

I found a wonderful video (30 minutes) the other day. It follows Captain Caro Stemmler's last flight before retiring, from ZRH to JFK on Swissair's classic Boeing 747-300 HB-IGE (Geneva) in December 1997.

What makes the film so special is the uniquely Swiss atmosphere. Instead of having a narrator, the film calmly follows the event from various angles with some amazing portrait shots of the people involved, beautifully backed by a classy song that for some reason you don't really get tired of, even though it plays for most of the half hour. The lack of a narrator takes away the language barrier or the need for a tacky subtitle, with just the right amount of Swiss German talk for that authentic touch. Lots of beautiful air-to-air footage too.

You'll notice how the film feels so uniquely Swiss, so 90s, so calm, professional and stylish.

Some rare, memorable cameos by HB-IWF at 6:13 (crashed after a cockpit fire just months later) and the World Trade Center at 28:50.

If you have half an hour to spare, watch it and enjoy it. It's probably the best and most rewarding thing you can do with your 30 minutes of time. I promise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iH5P-8p2nwM

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User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19405 times:

I stumbled upon this video a few months ago and thoroughly enjoyed it. Very classy indeed, makes me miss Swissair even more. Love Swiss German too.

User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 510 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 19352 times:

Great video! I agree with the 30 minutes  


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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3996 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 18883 times:
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Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
You'll notice how the film feels so uniquely Swiss, so 90s, so calm, professional and stylish.

I enjoyed it. It is a real pleasure to watch it, even if you don't understand German. The footage of Manhattan at the end was superb! The music was so soft.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
ome rare, memorable cameos by HB-IWF at 6:13 (crashed after a cockpit fire just months later)

And you can spot also, if you pay attention carefully, a Delta 767 in the old Widget livery.



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User currently offlinelxa333 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 18793 times:

I used to fly these beautiful birds annually from 90-97, but I was too young to remember much. I remember the airport in Zurich was my favorite place in the world and still is probably. Does anyone know what regs used to fly to JFK for the 743?

Wow this video brings back memories of Crossair in Zurich along with the old delta liveries. How time flies.

[Edited 2013-09-26 21:51:38]


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User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 510 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 18573 times:

How many 743's were in the fleet?


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User currently offlineFlySwiss From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 443 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 18489 times:

5 B743 were in Swissair's fleet, HB-IGE was the last one.


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User currently offlinesailas From Finland, joined Jul 2007, 288 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 18100 times:

Brings me memories of flying Swissair....Also at 7:25 the AY MD-82!! FLew on that so many times to HEL. This video really brings me back memories of living in Geneva.


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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 2054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 17964 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
beautifully backed by a classy song that for some reason you don't really get tired of

Personally, I could do without it.

Quoting FlySwiss (Reply 6):
5 B743 were in Swissair's fleet, HB-IGE was the last one.

Three were Combi.(IGC, D & G)



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User currently onlinelh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2381 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 17926 times:
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Thanks Sören! Love the scene at 07:01 where he walks the ramp totally humbled, glancing at the B743 and being dwarfed by the engine!


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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8503 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 17350 times:
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When the 744 was being launched there were articles about Swissair 744 coming but sadly those were never ordered. The Swissair 743 were the most elegant 747.

User currently offlinePanAm1971 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16396 times:

Fantastic video! And I love how the whole cabin crew was properly briefed about the flight by Captain Stemmler. I lived in Switzerland for a year... and this brought back great memories.  

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26005 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 16075 times:

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 8):
Quoting FlySwiss (Reply 6):5 B743 were in Swissair's fleet, HB-IGE was the last one.
Three were Combi.(IGC, D & G)

Swissair was the launch customer for the 743. I remember flying on one very soon after they went into service. It was operating YYZ-YMX (Montreal Mirabel)-ZRH. At that time there was only F and Y class, no J which was introduced fairly soon after. The 743s originally had 69 Y class seats on the upper deck.


User currently offlineImperialEagle From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2630 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15908 times:

Thanks Soren, that was great!


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User currently offlineLuxair From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 853 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15799 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):

Thank you for posting this very interesting and amazing video. I enjoyed every second watching it. Indeed it brings back great memories from the past.



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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 2054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13827 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 12):
The 743s originally had 69 Y class seats on the upper deck.

Back in 1988 and 1993 I flew with them in Y on the upper deck. That was cool to be up there.



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User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2973 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13194 times:

Most surprising is the bit around 02:05 with a member of the crew smoking in the meeting room. Oh how times have changed.


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User currently offlineawthompson From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7443 times:

Brings back wonderful memories hearing the route being discussed in the film; 'Manchester - Isle of Man - Belfast'. Albeit their plotting chart shows a more southerly route to the south of Ireland, cannot quite figure that one out!

I spent my teenage years when I should have been doing my school homework, watching/listening to the transatlantic overflights crossing just south of Belfast (the BEL VOR was in a different location than it is now). Many times I heard/saw Swissair flight 100 taking this route gracing Northern Ireland skies, and many times it was HB-IGE.


User currently offlinestevenlee505 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7443 times:

Does anyone know the name of the song near the end of the video, from about 27:00 onwards?

User currently offlineholzmann From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5880 times:

28:52 is a particularly difficult scene.

User currently offlinegolfradio From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 829 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Amazing film. Gone are those days of class. Does anyone know the approximate date of this flight?

User currently offlinebaqnav From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5372 times:
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Thanks for sharing Soren!


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User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

I noticed the captain was the pilot not flying on this leg. Would he not fly JFK-ZRH the next day? It seems strange to have a Swissair captain retire on ZRH-JFK and also not be flying his last flight.

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4000 times:

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 22):
I noticed the captain was the pilot not flying on this leg. Would he not fly JFK-ZRH the next day? It seems strange to have a Swissair captain retire on ZRH-JFK and also not be flying his last flight.

I have a possible explanation:
In Europe, you retire at a certain age. This is not the USA where you have 90yo cabin attendants and 80yo pilots. So if you happen to reach that age while on layover in New York then you're done. This means Swissair would have ferried in a captain for the return segment, which seems like a hassle but then again the retiring captain probably made it clear that it's his wish and lifelong dream to fly to JFK as his last flight, so this might have been Swissair's farewell present.

Just my wild guess, but it kind of makes sense!

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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3255 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 23):
In Europe, you retire at a certain age. This is not the USA where you have 90yo cabin attendants and 80yo pilots

Mandatory retirement age for Part 121 pilots in the USA was 60 years old when this video was made. In fact, it was changed to 65 in large part because of ICAO's age limit of 65. It did not make sense to limit US pilots to 60 while foreign pilots were allowed to fly in US airspace at 64.

I agree on the cabin attendants tho!



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User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3255 times:
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Very beautiful video, I remember when I used to fly from the old ZRH 25 years ago for my holydays.... WOW!

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