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7 RDU Based AA Flight Attendants Retire  
User currently onlineERJ170 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 6784 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 12676 times:

Just saw this...

Today is the final day of 7 of RDU based flight attendants who fly the LHR route. These ladies have been with the airline since the RDU base opened. When AA offered early retirement earlier in the year, 28 of the 75 based flight attendants too the offer.

Read at News and Observer..

[Edited 2013-09-27 16:08:33]


Aiming High and going far..
26 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlinerduoodl From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 70 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 11888 times:

A few months ago, AA173 got a water cannon salute on arrival for a young lady who was retiring after 55 years of In-Flight with AA. Her whole family was brought to the grassy area behind T2, near the Manager's parking lot to see it. Amazing how long some of these folks have been flying.


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User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 682 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11477 times:

There have been flight attendant retirements almost daily at AA this month, as it is the last month for the "buyout retirement." This month alone, over 600 fa's are retiring, completing the 2,256 that accepted AA's buyout offer.

AA ORD


User currently offlineStuckInCA From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11467 times:

We had 4 retiring on a flight from FRA last weekend. Good for them!

User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6229 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 11394 times:

Congratulations to them, good luck on their future endeavors.


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User currently onlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2421 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 10677 times:

I imagine these high seniority employees are expensive. As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers? Was the offer only extended to near retirement crew?


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User currently offlinepqdtw From Netherlands, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8872 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):
I imagine these high seniority employees are expensive. As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers? Was the offer only extended to near retirement crew?

It's a common misconception that airline employees who have been working 30, 40+ years would be more expensive to pay than more junior employees. While this is partially true, most flight attendant pay steps at major airlines do not go past 15 years. So essentially, if you have a 36 year old flight attendant who has been working since the age of 21, he/she earns the same amount as a 65 year old flight attendant working 44 years.

The payscale tops out at a certain point, and then all employees earn the same amount above a certain number of years of service. Typically, it's between 12 and 15 years. I'm not exactly sure at what year American's tops out.


User currently offlinechepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6229 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8407 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):

Yes, AA has been graduating classes of new F/A's, in part to replace some that have departed.

[Edited 2013-09-28 07:14:50]


Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 682 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8377 times:

Quoting Byrdluvs747 (Reply 5):
As these FA's retire, is AA bringing in new recruits or was the buyout designed to reduce the overall FA numbers?

Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

AA ORD


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11819 posts, RR: 62
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8262 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

  

I cannot remember the last time I was on a DFW-LAX flight where there weren't new hires onboard. Just flew it last weekend and there were two trainees working the flight - one in F and one in Y.


User currently offlineozark1 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 513 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 7784 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 8):
Yes, AA announced plans last fall to hire 1500+ starting in 2013, and to date, roughly 800 have completed training and are flying.

Good morning! Just a small correction. AA just graduated it's 1000th new hire. Plans are to continue starting classes weekly though the spring. I believe there were about 2,700 who took retirement.
Of course these plans are all subject to change with the uncertainty of the merger.


User currently offlinefraspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7521 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 9):
Just flew it last weekend and there were two trainees working the flight - one in F and one in Y.

Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?



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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11819 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

They were trainees, i.e. additive to the crew, not in place of. So the flight had a normal staffing of FAs working their normal positions and normal pay scales, plus these two trainees observing and helping - one in F with the #1, and one in Y working the cart service.


User currently offlinecaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 368 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5648 times:
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Does anyone new where the new F/As are being based? Are any of them being assigned to the west coast?

User currently offlinerobsol From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5272 times:

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

Not sure about AA but at UA we could work any position (except purser) straight out of training. My first flight was working the business galley of a 767 transcon. I flew with many senior mama's that hated anything but coach.


User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 682 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3941 times:

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

Or, for many, NOT working f/c is a benefit of seniority.

AA ORD


User currently offlineASFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3859 times:

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

A lot of senior FA's think not working F is a benefit of their seniority. Not all FA's enjoy working in F. I would say it's pretty evenly split, or maybe even that more prefer to not work in F.


User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Let's hope Pam Ann doesn't hear about this. She'll do a sketch about Valerie finally retiring.  

User currently offlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3632 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 17):
Let's hope Pam Ann doesn't hear about this. She'll do a sketch about Valerie finally retiring.  

That would be hysterical, but I would miss Valerie!



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User currently offlineqqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2296 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 13):

Up until last week, all new hires were going to NYC, MIA, DFW, ORD and DCA. Last week the first "out of training" new hires went to LAX (other new hires assigned elsewhere have been allowed to transfer in last month).



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User currently offlineAAtakeMeAway From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3158 times:

I'm almost positive there was a new FA working F by herself on the evening RIC-DFW flight on 9-20.

User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 682 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3134 times:

Quoting AAtakeMeAway (Reply 20):
I'm almost positive there was a new FA working F by herself on the evening RIC-DFW flight on 9-20.

You are correct.. Once they graduate from training, they become available to work any position they are qualified to work. That includes narrow body f/c on domestic flights. It is possible that 3 fas could be working their very first flight all together. Experienced? no so much. Qualified? Yes.

AA ORD


User currently offlineTUSAA From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3111 times:

Don't all new hires wear silver wings? Fa's get gold wings after 5 yrs of service? I heard something to that affect years ago.

User currently offlinethegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Quoting TUSAA (Reply 22):

Don't all new hires wear silver wings? Fa's get gold wings after 5 yrs of service? I heard something to that affect years ago.

That's still the case. All new hires have the silver wings.


User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2608 times:

New hire Finn speakers were on my ORD-HEL-ORD flights this July / August too, both in the J cabin doing a lot of the work. I was impressed with how well they were already integrating - on the way over the FA was only on her second revenue trip but I could have confused the professionalism and attention to detail with someone who had been doing that job for years. Maybe I don't have an eye for it.

User currently offlinefjnovak1 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 612 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Flew an SFO-ORD segment last Wednesday (9/25) and one of the SFO-based FA's was on her last trip, she'd been with AA for 45 years.


Go Blue!!
User currently offlineb727fa From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 799 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2039 times:

Quoting fraspotter (Reply 11):
Surprised they would have trainees working the First Class cabin. Isn't working F one of the benefits of seniority?

We all learn at some point. And as other folks have said, working F isn't always a "luxury" or prize position.



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