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First DL 737-900 On Property  
User currently offlinetlhgator From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 73 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 23515 times:

I'm really surprised this one slipped through the cracks here. DL 9939 ship 3801 left KBFI last night at 9:53 pm after being released by Boeing. It arrived here in KATL this morning at 5 am. It'll spend some time here on the ground for familiarization.

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User currently offlinedeltadawg From United States of America, joined May 2006, 776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 23460 times:

Congrats to DL. Cant wait to see it. What is its scheduled routes?


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User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 23452 times:

I think it will be at the TOC for close to two weeks. We get the next two in about a week.

User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1029 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 23337 times:

It made its way into the planespotters.net database very quickly.

User currently offlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3128 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 23126 times:
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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 21311 times:

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 4):

Do you think this bird will see South Florida action any time soon? Such as FLL and MIA? Congratulations DL! I assume new 800 and 900's have the Sky Interior as standard OEM equipment.



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User currently offlinecomairguycvg From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 337 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 19915 times:

Yeah so much for photographing the first arrival. Try again for the first rev departure.

User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 19527 times:

Quoting MIflyer12 (Reply 3):
planespotters.net

Couldn't find it



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User currently offlinePanAm788 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 19441 times:

Anyone know if the satellite TV has been installed yet? The pictures on the a.net database show the plane without the dish.


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User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1029 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 19021 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 7):
Couldn't find it

There is a database entry with a reg number and EIS. I wasn't referring to a picture.

http://www.planespotters.net/Product...e=737-900&fleet=5673&fleetStatus=1


User currently offlineB757forever From United States of America, joined May 2010, 401 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 18313 times:

Quoting PanAm788 (Reply 8):

Anyone know if the satellite TV has been installed yet?

It is being installed at Delta TechOps in ATL before it goes into service.


User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 14032 times:

Got a good look at it today. Nice interior. The sky interior really makes it feel larger. The seats seem ok. Kind of hard to judge because they will soften after a few month of service. The cargo areas look really long. There was a crew beginning the wifi system install.

User currently offlineSVA402 From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13893 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 11):
Got a good look at it today. Nice interior. The sky interior really makes it feel larger. The seats seem ok. Kind of hard to judge because they will soften after a few month of service. The cargo areas look really long. There was a crew beginning the wifi system install.

Hey do you know if the seats are the same as Alaska Airlines -900ERs have? I just rode on them and the seat was fairly comfortable but I felt like the pocket in front of me was pretty lame. I couldn't even get my paperback book to fit in it.


User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13883 times:

Quoting SVA402 (Reply 12):
Hey do you know if the seats are the same as Alaska Airlines -900ERs have? I just rode on them and the seat was fairly comfortable but I felt like the pocket in front of me was pretty lame. I couldn't even get my paperback book to fit in it.

Another thread had pictures of the interior and the seats are different from the AS ones. They have the seatpocket in the normal area I guess you could call it that.



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User currently offlineinfiniti329 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13593 times:

Does it have the magic carpet installed?

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (11 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 13526 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 11):
The cargo areas look really long.
Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 14):
Does it have the magic carpet installed?

That was going to be my question as well. Any carpet?



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User currently offlineDalmd88 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2554 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (11 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 13296 times:

Quoting infiniti329 (Reply 14):
Does it have the magic carpet installed?

Nope, just a big empty bin, front and back.


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1951 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (11 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 13182 times:

The overhead bins on the Sky Interior don't look any bigger, but they do make the cabin look more spacious.

The forward galley is tiny. The galley unit aft of R-1 has been moved forward taking away floor space.

I'm not a fan of "e-Leather." It looks too much like vinyl.

Is it a good 757 replacement? I'll let passengers and F/As be the judge.



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User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1184 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12855 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 17):

Is it a good 757 replacement? I'll let passengers and F/As be the judge.


By not having a boarding door behind first class, it not off to a good start, however ill reserve judgment until I work it.


User currently offlinepeanuts From Netherlands, joined Dec 2009, 1438 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 12830 times:

Quoting cokepopper (Reply 18):
By not having a boarding door behind first class

Although that's a great feature/benefit I've always wondered about that particular section of real estate on the 757. The second boarding door... how much money has it cost airliners to fly that piece of real estate around for those millions of miles? Just seems inefficient to me...and that's probably why it isn't there anymore on new designs. But why was it there to begin with?



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (11 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 12709 times:

Quoting Dalmd88 (Reply 16):
Nope, just a big empty bin, front and back.

Nice. Our below wing team will be quite strong.

Quoting peanuts (Reply 19):
Although that's a great feature/benefit I've always wondered about that particular section of real estate on the 757. The second boarding door... how much money has it cost airliners to fly that piece of real estate around for those millions of miles? Just seems inefficient to me...and that's probably why it isn't there anymore on new designs. But why was it there to begin with?

Definately a waste of space.



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User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12415 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 20):
Definately a waste of space.

I don't think it's fair to unequivocally say it's a waste of space - the time saved/overall utility of it during the boarding and deplaning processes isn't really measurable but could be pretty steep. The one time I've flown on a 739 (UA), it took a noticable amount of time to deplane the thing. While a number of frequent first class patrons may not know airplane types from one another, they definitely do notice when they don't have 160 passengers hitting them with bags and purses, and FAs trying to attend to them (jackets, drinks, etc.) pre-departure in the midst of that bumrush to the back is a nightmare. I'm not saying every aircraft should have such a boarding configuration, but ones with capacities approaching 200 need all the help they can get (two aisles, a middle boarding door, etc.).

I'm also under the impression that pilots aren't the biggest fan of it. It seems like the -800s are pigs enough, adding a 10 foot stretch makes it seem like the plane must fly itself off the ground, in a way, before the pilots can rotate in order to avoid a tailstrike.

I'm on the pessimistic side of the 739s, hopefully the fancy seat stitching and big personal TVs will distract the pax enough...



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User currently offlineSELMER40 From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 12330 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 17):
I'll let passengers...judge.

I already do not like the idea of no mid cabin lav.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1633 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (11 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 12273 times:

Quoting peanuts (Reply 19):
...and that's probably why it isn't there anymore on new designs. But why was it there to begin with?

The 757 was a longer aircraft. DL and later the NW 5600 series had a galley at door 2R. DL always had a galley at door 2L. The main cabin was too long to efficiently serve that many passengers with only the aft galley. Remember that back in the mid 80's we served a lot of food onboard. And if you barged into the forward galley mid service to restock with sodas or coffee you got your head handed to you by the people working up there for stripping out "their" supplies.

Oddly enough, on the 5500 series NW aircraft there were only 2 seats at door 2R to hasten emergency egress and no galley at 2L. I remember one day I had this man EXPLODE at me, screeching that these seats were "insulting." I told him they were the best seats in the house and I would have no problem getting passengers to switch with them. He told me I was "stupid." So I did just that. He and his wife got switched to 17E and 18E, both center seats. They thought this was an improvement? Go figure.....I laughed all the way home. All the seats get to the destination at the same time but you could never convince some passengers of that fact.

Trust me when I tell you that is not "valuable real estate." Those doors were also needed to comply with FAA regulations regarding maximum distances from any seat to an emergency exit as many of the aircraft had no over wing exits. We would never want to see a passenger lost in a fire because they could not quickly reach an exit. Plus you had flight attendants sitting there to direct evacuations.



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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3037 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (11 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12173 times:

Does the 739 differ much (or any) visually from the winglet-equipped 738's?


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25 MesaFlyGuy : There is an extra emergency door (plug) midway between the wing and the rear doors. And it is noticeably longer.
26 OA412 : The only difference is that it's longer. Otherwise, it looks exactly like any other 737NG. A couple weeks ago I flew a UA 739 and 757 and honestly sa
27 DTWPurserBoy : DL opted not to have these exits installed. They are not in place and just a sealed piece of fuselage where an exit could be.
28 UA735WL : Exactly....a plug. I don't believe there are any US airlines who actually have 739ERs in a dense enough configuration to warrant activating them.
29 FlyASAGuy2005 : We've ran many tests with the 757 over the years. All usually for cabin cleaning procedures in the Caribbean and stations where air stairs are an opt
30 DTWPurserBoy : Well said. If there were operators in the US like Ryanair or other LCC's that max out seating the exit would be warranted. The FAA has a formula for
31 Post contains links SELMER40 : The second Delta 737-900 N802DN is now (Thursday) en route from BFI to ATL http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N802DN.
32 captainstefan : Thanks for putting up some tangible numbers. I would stand corrected if not for this: I guess since they had to have a door there, Boeing decided to
33 OOer : The 737-800 feels crammed enough as it is. Plus the galleys really suck! I can't wait to see what they did on the -900. I have a feeling it's gonna be
34 CONTACREW : Up until recently sCO staffed it's 737-900 flights with a 5th FA if the load was over 100 and there was a meal service onboard. Now that there is no
35 FlyASAGuy2005 : Now we're talking about two different things. The door HAVING to be there vs. not is a different argument. I never said it wasn't there for a reeason
36 b727fa : Getting to the lave at mid-cabin, I think it's a pretty silly argument to say that we don't want to put a lav there b/c we don't to subject our premiu
37 PassedV1 : The 737-900 was an absolute ugly pig which is why Boeing dumped it so quickly. The ER on the other hand is about comparable to a standard 737-800. Th
38 fanoftristars : So are there any official photos of the interiors? I've seen the photos when it was still with boeing all wrapped in plastic...
39 OA412 : What do you mean when you refer to an aircraft as a pig?
40 PassedV1 : A pig "feels" heavy in almost all typical loadings. A pig needs to be coaxed into the air, can't climb very high when it gets there and then coaxed b
41 OA412 : Thanks very much for the analysis and insight. Very interesting!
42 BoeingGuy : Yeah the 737-800 is such a pig that it's one of the only mainline jets (I think the 717 is the other) that is certified to takeoff from SNA without n
43 RyanairGuru : The 737-800 has superior range to the A320, nobody can deny that, but I think PassedV1 was referring to its field performance, in which I have heard
44 Post contains links SELMER40 : The third Delta 737-900ER has arrived in ATL. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N803DN
45 gigneil : That's why there was an SFP package introduced for the 738 after a time - but it wasn't super well received. United does have some. NS
46 PassedV1 : As far as the SNA procedures, it has more to do with what kind of slots the individual flights are scheduled on as opposed to the jets themselves. Ot
47 Post contains links audidudi : The fourth ship (N804DN) arrived in ATL last week. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N804DN
48 SELMER40 : From what I can find in the Delta desktop e-timetable it looks like the first two Delta 739 flights will be 3 Nov-- Delta 2049 ATL-SFO 8:15 AM and Del
49 FlyASAGuy2005 : Axiously await pics of the interior. Only see a few here and there.
50 DTWPurserBoy : Very much the same as the 737-7's and 8's. DL never gets wild and crazy with cabin interiors, especially on domestic aircraft. It is all about utiliz
51 B757forever : The 739 aircraft have the Boeing Sky interior. So they do look much newer than the 73G and 738 aircraft. The tip-out overhead bins look much better t
52 Post contains links SELMER40 : Looks like the Delta 737-900ER started revenue service today(Friday). http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N802DN
53 hammer : N805DN enroute right now to ATL
54 SELMER40 : At its 640 mph ground speed it will be over my house in just over an hour and half.[Edited 2013-11-01 14:06:00]
55 comairguycvg : I think DL690 ATL-DTW was the first revenue flight with the 900 this morning.
56 MesaFlyGuy : I'm surprised to see it doing DTW-MIA. I thought the first routes were predominantly out of ATL, with DTW-SFO and ATL-DTW in there. Was this a last-mi
57 comairguycvg : Yeah that's what I was thinking too. The first flights were supposed to be on Sun 11-3. Just shows you how much change this industry has, whether it
58 B757forever : First flight today operated by ship 3802. Ships 3803 and 3804 go into revenue service on Sunday.
59 nwa757boy : Just a note, the wifi is not operational yet on these aircraft. I don't know if it's been installed yet or not, but the hold up is on the FAAs end and
60 B757forever : Only ship 3801 has WiFi. It was the prototype and is waiting STC approval from the FAA. Until that approval is granted, it will not fly. (it technica
61 Post contains links SELMER40 : Delta's 737-900ER number six is on the way to ATL. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N806DN
62 AV8AJET : Do these 739's have LED wingtip strobes? Saw one landing into ATL last night and looked like the wingtip ones are LED but I think the rear mounted one
63 hammer : Yes they are the LED lights...
64 Post contains links audidudi : The seventh aircraft is en route BFI-ATL. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N807DN
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