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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 21  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 45694 times:
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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 20 (by jetblueguy22 Sep 7 2013 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5753 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 45464 times:

We should see LAN (Everett) & Hainan (Charleston) 787's flyaway today. Perhaps we'll be surprised by Qatar and LAN (Charleston) tomorrow.


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User currently offlinetigerotor77w From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 44814 times:

Anyone have the flight number of the Hainan 787? (nonstop to PEK)

I live in Charleston and would love to see this bird take flight!


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 44548 times:
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LAN CC-BBD (LN118) delivery flight scheduled to depart KPAE at 18:10:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/L...7/history/20130930/0100Z/KPAE/SCEL


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11405 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 43900 times:

Quoting tigerotor77w (Reply 2):
Anyone have the flight number of the Hainan 787? (nonstop to PEK)

The flight number is CHH2723 but it was removed from Flightaware so it never departed. Maybe today.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 43856 times:

I've been away for a while, where's United787 with his always updated and detailed list? 


次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2704 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 43649 times:

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 88 Aircraft to 14 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO SEPTEMBER
NH-22; JL-11; AI-8; QR-8; UA–7; ET-5; LO-5; BY-4; LA-3; BA-2; CZ-3; DY-2; HU-2; AM-1

SEPTEMBER DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 114 – G-ZBJC - 9/3/2013 - BA #3
L/N 107 - JA821A - 9/23/2013 - NH #23
L/N 81 - B-2723 – 9/27/2013 - HU #3
L/N 118 - CC-BBD - 9/27/2013 - LA #4
L/N 121 – G-ZBJD – 9/27/2013 - BA #4

AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*
L/N 91 - VT-ANO – 9/xx/2013 - AI #9
L/N 109 - A7-BCF – 9/xx/2013 - QR #9
L/N 113 - CC-BBE - 9/xx/2013 - LA #5
L/N 100 - B-2736 – 9/xx/2013 – CZ #4
L/N 123 – VH-VKA – 10/xx/2013 – JQ #1
L/N 128 – V8-DLA - 10/xx/2013 – BI #1
L/N 122 – N964AM - 10/xx/2013 - AM #2 (ILFC)
L/N 104 - B-2737 – 10/xx/2013 – CZ #5
L/N 36 - B-2726 – 11/xx/2013 – CZ #6
L/N 85 - B–2730 - xx/xx/2013 - HU #4
L/N 43 - B-2727 – x/xx/2013 - CZ #7
L/N 127 – N965AM - 10/xx/2013 - AM #3 (ILFC) Awaiting first flight
L/N 124 - N27908 - 10/xx/2013 - UA #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 125 – JA833J - 10/xx/2013 - JL #12 Awaiting first flight
L/N 130 – V8-DLB - x/xx/2013 – BI #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 20 – JA821J – 10/xx/2013 - JL #13 Awaiting first flight
L/N 134 – VH-VKB – 10/xx/2013 – JQ #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 32 - VT-ANG – x/xx/2013 - AI #10 Awaiting first flight
L/N 30 - VT-ANE – x/xx/2013 - AI #11 Awaiting first flight
L/N 79 - B-27?? – x/xx/2014 - HU #5 Awaiting first flight (Storage)
L/N 119 - B-2738 – x/xx/2014 – CZ #8 Awaiting first flight
L/N 131 - B-2731 – x/xx/2014 - HU #6 Awaiting first flight

*Not including the delivered aircraft and test aircraft (ZA001-006 & ZB001)


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7496 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 43287 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 6):
AIRCRAFT THAT HAVE COMPLETED MAJOR ASSEMBLY & CHANGE INCORPORATION*

It's pretty safe to say all of these will be October deliveries. No more September delivs I can see.



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2704 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 43199 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 7):

Never say never...end of the quarter, I am sure Boeing will be pushing hard to get more out the door...they seem to always squeak out one or two in the final hours. SCL767 said he expects 113 to be delivered in the next couple of days. The other three are ready but have customer issues so they are probably out of Boeing's control...


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11405 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 43072 times:

ZB002 rolled out and is now at the fuel dock.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/384717965007941632/photo/1



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User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 43006 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 9):
ZB002 rolled out and is now at the fuel dock.

That seemed quicker than ZB001. Speaking of which; she is flying again:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

4 days in a row 32+ hours and 8 total flights.

tortugamon


User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 42975 times:
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Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
SCL767 said he expects 113 to be delivered in the next couple of days.

LAN CC-BBE ZA539 (LN 113) will soon depart KCHS for another customer flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20130930/1600Z/KCHS/KCHS

It should be noted that LAN requires two 787s in order to operate SCL-MAD/FRA daily; which begins tomorrow. Also, LAN requires two 787s in order to operate SCL-JFK daily; which begins next week. Plus one 787 on "stand-by" as a spare due to "operational issues."


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 42555 times:

You must have to have a tough stomach to be a test pilot. If flightaware can be trusted: BOE1 has been doing circles over Eastern Washington for about 3 hours while bouncing in between 7,900 feet and 21,000 feet while alternating speeds between 108 kts (!) and 373 kts. In other words going up and down at alternate speeds while doing circles for 3+ hours. No thank you!

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE1

tortugamon


User currently offlineWarpSpeed From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 587 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 42470 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):
You must have to have a tough stomach to be a test pilot.

Well, at least the test pilot is in control, knows what to expect (and when), and has the option of a visual reference to the horizon. Just think about the crew in the back monitoring all of the testing instrumentation! Having an iron stomach might as well be an official job skill requirement.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11405 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 42331 times:

Quote:
LN30 (VT-ANE) has been pushed out of the EMC with engines attached. Next stop is the paint hangar I guess, she's a bit dirty.

LN30 went inside the paint hangar today.

http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/384744851020857344/photo/1

Quote:
Air India LN28 (VT-ANC) was moved from the paint hangar to the EMC tonight. Change incorporation should almost be finished.

LN28 is now back inside the EMC for final touches.



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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1555 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 42280 times:

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 13):
Well, at least the test pilot is in control, knows what to expect (and when), and has the option of a visual reference to the horizon. Just think about the crew in the back monitoring all of the testing instrumentation! Having an iron stomach might as well be an official job skill requirement.


  

Up front it's a non-event especially if you're the driver and not the watcher (unless you're the queasy type to begin with). Depending on the tests being performed the people in back take a beating, stomach wise, so you keep the temperature cool and if somebody thinks they might have an issue take a break and invite them up front to get their world right side up again.


User currently offlinetortugamon From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 3443 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 41935 times:

Quoting WarpSpeed (Reply 13):
Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 15):

Over six hours of that stuff. Wow. Probably don't get IFE and a couple Jack Daniels' either.

Hope this government shutdown doesn't delay certification efforts.

tortugamon


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5753 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 41919 times:

There were probably some contractual deliveries made today which we'll know about tomorrow when fly-a-ways occur.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 41819 times:

Quoting tortugamon (Reply 12):
If flightaware can be trusted: BOE1 has been doing circles over Eastern Washington for about 3 hours while bouncing in between 7,900 feet and 21,000 feet while alternating speeds between 108 kts (!) and 373 kts.

Sounds like a bit of envelope expansion   If 108 is a zero wind speed, then it sounds like they're looking for stall speeds. The altitude fluctiaions would certainly go along with that. However, given the crazy weather up here in the Pacific NW today, I wouldn't be suprised if strong winds aloft at the test altitudes were just giving the flight a crazy low groundspeed reading.



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2742 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 41703 times:

Wow. BOE1's flight path today was nuts!   

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20130930/1630Z/KBFI/KBFI



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User currently onlinepdxswa From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 41523 times:
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Another unpainted Hainan 787.


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Photo © Bill Shemley



User currently offlineConfuscius From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 3855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (11 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 41301 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 19):

Give the pilots a sobriety test. They're way off the flight plan. They can't trace for sh!t... http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c159/acetaminophen500mg/boe001.jpg



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6374 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 41273 times:

Looking at today's BOE1 flight track: Wow, wondering how you file that...I switched it over to sectional view, IFR low view, and IFR high view. No restricted area (I thought maybe they were flying inside of one). They're on the hook for visual separation, and down to 7900', they're mixing it up with GA traffic. I thought this was the type of thing they did off the coast over the Pacific...  


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User currently offlinebellancacf From United States of America, joined May 2011, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 41256 times:

In the SE of that pattern there's a place where you wonder if they did a wingover into a diving turn. And a kink in the middle of the rat's nest that is _really_ tight. Maybe if you get down and look at the flight from the side it spells out words or draws a picture. It does look like someone had a lot of fun. Maybe the pilot likes this plane.

User currently onlineSooner787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2013, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 41219 times:

Maybe they were dogfighting an A350 LOL

25 tortugamon : Yeah like I was mentioning in reply #12 it's that change in altitude and speed that make these crazy circles/routes that much more ridiculous. For al
26 tortugamon : Jon O tweeted that test personnel have not been on the aircraft so far. Tomorrow will be the first time. tortugamon
27 Post contains images AM777LR : LOL
28 Post contains links KarelXWB : Hainan Airlines LN131, more info here.
29 Post contains links KarelXWB : Here it is again: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20131001/1200Z/KCHS/ZBAA Should depart within 4 hours.
30 Post contains links bmibaby737 : Planespotters.net has published the construction numbers for the upcoming Jetstar Airways aircraft. They miss VH-VKC which is listed on 'All things 78
31 Post contains images KarelXWB : And removed/canceled again
32 NYC777 : Those photos are old, the aircraft has since been painted in Hainan color since they were taken.
33 KarelXWB : Correct, but I believe pdxswa wants to know the identity of the airframe because he's a photo screener on this website.[Edited 2013-10-01 07:56:21]
34 Post contains links NYC777 : And it's back again: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CHH2723
35 kanban : It's starting to sound like a faulty server in the data pipeline.. or a loose plug.
36 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : A few very nice pictures of the Jetstar 787: 787 test flight by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr 787 test flight by Jetstar Airways, on Flickr 787 test flig
37 Post contains images WarpSpeed : Down again....
38 Post contains links tortugamon : Its a safe bet no one got sick on today's 787-9 flight. Must be they have the full crew on board now and not just two pilots with a wild ride in mind.
39 NYC777 : And it timed out again.
40 JoeCanuck : It's amazing how good any plane seems to look if it has a base coat of something other than glaring white.
41 Post contains links and images aussie18 : Recent shot I managed to get of the Boeing 787-900 from the air, I did see number 2 while on the boeing tour in the hangars. View Large View MediumPho
42 Post contains links tortugamon : About time. She is off! http://flightaware.com/live/flight/C...3/history/20131001/1200Z/KCHS/ZBAA Has there been a 14 hour 787 flight by a customer y
43 Post contains images United787 : Has the fat lady sung on this one... I would be nervous until it left US airspace. Any word on anymore deliveries yesterday? I am guessing that since
44 KarelXWB : Yes I have seen it before but can't remember which customer it was.
45 United787 : Probably QR or ET?
46 Post contains images casinterest : Currently in Canadian Airspace So what does October look like now?
47 hkcanadaexpat : As we start a new month. Next up... Deliveries: > VT-ANO (Air India #9) (@ Charleston) > B-2736 (China Southern #4) (@ Charleston) > A7-BCF (
48 PHX787 : So none were delivered at the end of September?
49 817Dreamliiner : There were 3, 1 each for ANA, LAN and BA. But im sure there were some contractual deliveries made towards the end.
50 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air India VT-ANB (LN26) is about to get its engines fitted. http://paineairport.com/images/kpae9849.png
51 hkcanadaexpat : Based on EIS only, these frames should deliver shortly: > A7-BCF (Qatar): EIS 1-Sep?!? (flights running short at the moment) > VT-ANO (Air India
52 Post contains links KarelXWB : Jetairfly should get its first 787 later this year. http://airlineroute.net/2013/10/02/tb-787-update1/
53 hkcanadaexpat : That's LN 137 currently in FAL @ Everett. A
54 KarelXWB : It's possible, LN137 is the 5th 787 for TUI Travel. Although the registration should start with OO- while it currently is listed as G-TUIE (which is
55 Post contains links NYC777 : LN 100 is flying away today to China. Must've been delivered contractually yesterday. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CSN9
56 tortugamon : It sounds like there should be movements very soon. I had envisioned more aircraft coming out of the EMC the last three months. This flight is pushin
57 tortugamon : Two days ago ZB001 had a very wild test flight at over 6 hours and lots of flight envelope testing. Yesterday it has two, very short and straight tes
58 Stitch : Maybe they were verifying the side of body join? The 787-8's SoB started to delaminate just beyond Limit Load so if they were performing maneuvers th
59 tortugamon : Could be. They did not keep the aircraft out of commission for more than 24 hours afterward so as long as that is a relatively quick inspection perio
60 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA292 is preparing to go on it's B-1 flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE292 With the govt. shutdown I wonder if it'll delay UA from getting
61 AirIndia111 : I don't think AI is running short of 787's at the moment. In fact, they are using the 787's as a replacement for 32x's flights (One example is the DX
62 hkcanadaexpat : AI 803/505 DEL-BLR has been cancelled all week as well as some AI 439/430 DEL-MAA flights, hence why my comment above. AI 401/021 DEL-CCU has substit
63 Post contains links and images pdxswa : Yet another Hainan Airlines 787-8 waiting for modifications. View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
64 KarelXWB : That's LN79 on the flightline, but she was moved to the EMC again. I'm however not sure why it needs rework.[Edited 2013-10-02 10:41:26]
65 AirIndia111 : While that is true but AI has always had the 787's available at DEL to operate those flights. And we haven't seen any of the 787's going tech in the
66 Post contains images KELPkid : I wonder if they were just trying to rack up 40 hours ASAP...an aircraft with an experimental registration has to fly 40 hours before it is allowed t
67 KarelXWB : LN100 is airborne.
68 Post contains links and images tortugamon : Not me. If I was really shaking a new plane I would like to be over a seldom used airport like Moses Lakes Great news. They always seemed to be deliv
69 7BOEING7 : The FAA requires new/derivative models to perform various initial test points (flutter, etc.) to define some of the envelope of the airplane prior to
70 7BOEING7 : 22 hours, 42 minutes and we had enough fuel left on landing to have flown for 24+ hours (or to Tolouse) but we had people waiting for us at Heathrow.
71 Post contains images tortugamon : That makes sense and I figured you would have the answer. Thank you. Something tells me you would not have gotten clearance to land at TLS . Quite th
72 Post contains links tortugamon : Very exciting news, another new customer: Jetstar VH-VKA starting engines for delivery flight http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/385550630778990592 I
73 NYC777 : saw that...interesting that there was no special celebration and so far no FA alert. I'm not saying it isn't true but it's certainly extremely low ke
74 tortugamon : It is odd. The Australian media has been very interested in this. Maybe Matt is mistaken. tortugamon
75 NYC777 : I haven't seen anything on Flightaware and I'm not sure of the flight number so I can't track it on Flightradar 24
76 tortugamon : ...and flights are usually scheduled ( not necessarily flown) during relatively normal business hours. I see nothing in Aussie news either. Engines o
77 DeltaB717 : Last I read, the JQ wasn't due for delivery until 7 Oct, although that may have changed...
78 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Flight radar also cryptic but shows the frame flying JQ001. http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/vh-vka A
79 Post contains links and images tortugamon : Matt has now confirmed that Jetstar's first 787 (VH-VKA) left 'hours ago' (thanks NYC777). I see it on Flight Radar (thanks A) but it says it is SYD-
80 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Royal Brunei (V8-DLA) delivery flight on "cryptic" flightradar. http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/v8-dla Perhaps the flightaware issue has t
81 tortugamon : At least that one is going the right direction. Good guess. Which means that aircraft that have not entered FAL probably won't be delivered this year
82 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : HU LN79 being fitted with its engines. KPAE Wet Day 10-2-13 by moonm, on Flickr KPAE Wet Day 10-2-13 by moonm, on Flickr
83 dan23 : SYD-HNL is the usual route for JQ1 so its probably in the Flightradar24 database so the route is probably just called up when it sees JQ1. It seems fr
84 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Between the weird flight path and this article just now released by Australian media, i am venturing that VH-VKA has been contractually delivered but
85 Post contains links KarelXWB : The numbers are out, 6 deliveries for September: > September 1: British Airways > September 23: All Nippon Airways > September 27: British A
86 Post contains images PHX787 : Oh so those two did end up getting cranked out of there that day. Whoever above posted about that rebuking my comment about these going to October, w
87 hkcanadaexpat : Interestingly the Scoot Pte Ltd. (10x 788 + 10x 789) order has been separated from the Singapore Air (30x 7810) order on the Boeing books whereas in
88 Post contains images WarpSpeed : ...for a total of 40 787's year-to-date. The government shut down may end up factoring into this mix as well. Boeing issued a warning today that deli
89 kanban : Could some of the flight aware data be hampered by the government shutdown and some "nice to know" links closed?
90 tortugamon : Thanks for the info. This certainly makes more sense. They should make it a party and a major marketing event to drive free publicity. tortugamon
91 kanban : Seems odd that the Boeing designees can not perform the same function in Charleston...
92 WarpSpeed : Roadtrip!?!?
93 7673mech : I was out at PAE last night on business. The Jetstar plane is still there doing customer training flights. Royal Brunei did leave after a photo op wi
94 tortugamon : This could be a tax/regulation move. I imagine they want to hold off on making the 787-10 move until they get closer to the date. No reason to make t
95 tortugamon : Mystery solved. Thank you. tortugamon
96 Post contains images WarpSpeed : Sounds like a good workaround. The WSJ article I read did say that Boeing is looking into contingencies. Perhaps they should call you! Hope you're ri
97 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Who is this, ZA143? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE143
98 KarelXWB : Sounds like a typo, LN134 perhaps? /edit Can't be, I'm mixing the LN with the ZA number.[Edited 2013-10-03 10:01:56]
99 Post contains links KarelXWB : Crew training, she will fly to Melbourne next Wednesday. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...y-due/story-e6frg95x-1226732478371 I wished Jetstar h
100 WarpSpeed : IIRC, United did the same after taking its first frame.
101 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : The Jetstar bird is airborne again. http://fr24.com/JST7879
102 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Just saw this tweet from Matt: Does anyone know more about this?? http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/385817132220440576
103 Post contains images kanban : did you mean "them" as the planes or "them" as the future designees? The problem I would see with moving the planes is all the technical/supporting d
104 Post contains images KarelXWB : Correct
105 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
106 NYC777 : BOE 143 is not a 787. It's a 777. Flightaware mistake.
107 tortugamon : I can see that being a sticking point. Hopefully it does not resort to that. I expect this to be over shortly. tortugamon
108 Post contains links and images KPDX : So I'll be the one to ask. View Large View MediumPhoto © juanma bango Did TUIA's radome get replaced? Bird strike?
109 Post contains images seabosdca : Just have VT-ANO fly everything over. It's not like that frame has anything better to do...
110 NYC777 : On Randy's Blog, Randy Tinseth said that Boeing had delivered 3 aircraft thus far in October for an overall total of 92 and 43 787s delivered in 2013
111 PHX787 : So are all the terrible teens delivered? Or still going through change/rework?
112 Stitch : All of them are still in storage or change incorporation.
113 starrion : How long has LN6 been in rework? Is it really being done? And what did happen with the Air India jet in the EMC? That tweet references structural dama
114 kanban : We will probably never know the cause, damage, or status .. only the day it either rolls out or is scrapped. Nothing inside is public information and
115 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : JAL ZA175 (20) filed for a B-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE175 GUN ZA382 (43) filed for an EWA(?): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE38
116 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air India VT-ANO (LN91) delivery flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...0/history/20131004/2220Z/KCHS/EDDF
117 Post contains links NYC777 : Matt Cawby says it's a C-1 flight: China Southern 787 B-2727 just left on a C1 flight— Paine Airport (@mattcawby) October 4, 2013 async src="//plat
118 Post contains images seabosdca : All it took was one more joke, I guess.
119 Post contains links NYC777 : ZA562 going up on its second flight, I wonder if this is a customer flight? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE562
120 Post contains links KarelXWB : I wonder how much this will impact the deliveries in CHS: http://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/386180332535705600
121 7BOEING7 : Maybe later this afternoon but not on a 45 minute KPAE/KPAE. Customer flight -- yes, but this will be it's fourth flight (B-1,B-2,EWA)
122 WarpSpeed : Is the stopover in Germany due to customs? I thought with the reopening of the main runway at KCHS that AI delivery flights from KCHS would be able t
123 KarelXWB : I too was surprised to see a stop in FRA. Perhaps they will pick up some cargo?
124 NYC777 : Oops, my mistake, yes this is it's fourth flight. Hopefully delivery is right around the corner.
125 Pygmalion : All Boeing build/design records are digital and available anywhere They already found away through it and are ticketing airplanes. Flight Crew or Gro
126 kanban : true however our government is slow to adopt many obvious benefits of electronic records and relies on "touch" as a failsafe.. that said a trained de
127 KarelXWB : I have two new line numbers: > LN 187: BA G-ZBJG (cn 38614) > LN 197: BA G-ZBJH (cn 38615)[Edited 2013-10-04 13:30:11]
128 Post contains links KarelXWB : UA ZA292 was ferried to FTW for painting today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20131005/1630Z/KCHS/KFTW
129 Stitch : If I am recalling past posts correctly, AI has a technical facility at FRA so they fly the 787's there first before sending them on to India.
130 TK773ER : Does anyone here know when the third JQ 787 will be delivered ? looking at all things 787 it also seems to be VH-VKD what happend to C ?
131 Post contains links KarelXWB : VH-VKC is already in use. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/VHVLC
132 AirIndia111 : But VT-ANN flew nonstop to DEL from PAE.
133 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Nice 3 minute accelerated video of the first Jetstar 787 going through assembly. http://www.ausbt.com.au/video-watch-...oeing-787-being-built-in-3-min
134 freqflyer : Is there still no further info on this? Reg/ Line No?
135 hkcanadaexpat : The clock is starting to tick pretty fast on the two Aeromexico frames on the flightline. > N964AM is due to begin flights to TIJ-NRT a week from t
136 BAeRJ100 : That link is for a VH-VLC, not VKC.
137 dan23 : Yes but it is correct that VH-VKC is already in use and not available to Jetstar
138 Post contains links seabosdca : ZA382 (CZ LN43) up for what looks like a real C-1 this time. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20131007/1500Z/KPAE/KMWH
139 sweair : They have an amazing livery on their 787s, they should put it on all their aircraft.
140 Post contains links and images 7BOEING7 : And AMX ZA562 (122) out for A C-2 after a partial C-1 on Friday: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE562
141 Post contains links KarelXWB : Jetstar VH-VKA is on its way to Melbourne. http://fr24.com/JST7878
142 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Picture before (or after?) the delivery ceremony started: http://twitter.com/AusBT/status/387239853277974529/photo/1[Edited 2013-10-07 13:04:24]
143 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Followed by a C-3 this evening: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE562
144 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Just noticed this tweet from Matt Cawby: http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/387360481003855873
145 kanban : Odd.. AOG shipments go through SEA.. never PAE..
146 Post contains links je89_w : VH-VKA stopped in HNL on delivery and is scheduled to depart at 05:40 LT with estimated arrival into MEL at 12:40 LT. Some pictures here: http://hnlr
147 WarpSpeed : Why do AOG shipments go through SEA? To piggyback on a commercial flight? Might ET-AOP be a solid exception given the extent of damage and frame type
148 Post contains links WarpSpeed : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE563 Looks like a B-1 for Aeromexico LN127/ZA563. October production testing and deliveries appear to be waaaay b
149 kanban : Boeing's spares stores are located there just off the North end of the runway along with repair kitting, repair tooling.. Yes for most AOG shipments
150 Post contains links ual747-600 : Probably a bit off topic but I recently read the article below about Boeing's 787 Operations Control Center that states all 787 flights are monitored
151 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : And after an attempt last Friday and again yesterday AIN ZA235 (32) is filed for a B-1 again today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE235
152 kanban : Probably many changes have been both proposed and incorporated. The process usually involves the Warranty Board, design engineering which determines
153 WarpSpeed : And...Matt Cawby just tweeted that it did a taxi test and is now headed back to the ramp!
154 Stitch : Per media reports, Boeing has redesigned a number of (unidentified) parts for the 787-9 and they are being incorporated into current-build 787-8s.
155 Post contains links KarelXWB : Airborne now. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20131009/2200Z/KPAE/KMWH
156 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : ZB002 is at the fuel dock. Around KPAE 10-9-13 by moonm, on Flickr
157 KarelXWB : For some reason, ZA235 never made it to MWH and flew directly back to PAE, although the whole flight lasted almost 2 hours.
158 Post contains links KarelXWB : Two new deliveries: LAN LN113: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/L...7/history/20131010/2030Z/KCHS/SCEL CSN LN43: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/
159 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : Hasn't it been there for over a week already?!? The timing of this delivery can be explained partly by this: http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...o
160 NYC777 : It'll probably fly a B-2.
161 United787 : Nice to see so many deliveries out of Charleston, big month for Charleston! Also, nice to see so much activity for the early birds, 43, 20, 32, especi
162 hkcanadaexpat : Is it time to start the wagers on who's going to get the 100th 787 delivery?!? We're at 94 as of now so if we're lucky we may even get it by the end o
163 KarelXWB : I would expect ANA to get the honor but I doubt CHS can get JA824A ready in time.
164 seabosdca : I expect we won't have to wait that long for the two AM birds or the Qatar bird. On the other hand I expect we'll be waiting substantially longer tha
165 NYC777 : If the US Govt. shutdown continues than I would discount the possibility of any US carriers or lessors being #100 due to the fact that the FAA office
166 Post contains links and images pdxswa : Royal Brunei's second Boeing 787-8 basking in the late afternoon sunshine at PAE. View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
167 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Here's a picture of the poor guy at the delivery center, being prepared for its delivery flight: China Southern's latest 787 by DearEdward, on Flickr
168 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Here's a nice photo from Matt Cawby of ZB001 landing at PAE yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/10181701103/
169 United787 : Now I don't feel sorry for him, SHE looks awesome! Great photo!
170 sweair : Best 787 livery yet IMO, stunning!
171 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Than you sure must love this picture: B-2732 China Southern 787 landing at London Heathrow. First visit by nustyR AirTeamImages, on Flickr
172 tortugamon : CZ and Jetstar are my favorites. Think we will see ZB002 in the air next week? tortugamon
173 WarpSpeed : This is good news. Do you think the improvements are limited to "parts" and does not include the major structural redesigns (i.e. more than "parts" i
174 ER757 : As much of a fan I was of the 788 when it came out - I have to say the -9 is a far better looking bird. The stretch gives it much better lines.
175 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : ZB002 was moved from the fuel dock to the stall today. I assume taxi tests will follow soon. Parking the 787-9 by DearEdward, on Flickr
176 NYC777 : Nope but it should be up in about 2 weeks. It took ZB001 24 days from roll out to first flight. ZB002 rolled out on Sept. 30th so it should fly by th
177 KarelXWB : I would expect first flight of the second frame to go a bit faster?
178 NYC777 : That is the latest when I would expect the first flight of this airplane to occur but yes it should go a bit more faster.
179 sunrisevalley : So this makes the weight of the frame including crew at 109t. I wonder what "furnishings" if any it had in it?
180 KarelXWB : The standard OEM cabin configurations are relatively light compared to the one used with customers.
181 United787 : Showing up on Flightaware again, hopefully it happens this time!
182 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
183 dynamicsguy : It was doing ground testing which required it to be in the fuel dock. Doubt it. And not sure about others' estimates of when it would fly. The ground
184 Post contains images tortugamon : Now it has been moved to dock 107. I bet we will see it fly by the end of next week. Just waiting on those high speed taxi tests for a tell tale sign
185 7BOEING7 : I'm guessing they won't do more than the standard "B-1" high speed prior to takeoff.
186 Post contains images seabosdca : Oh, they'll take any orders they can get. The question is whether it will improve the bottom line to promise performance that's better than today's s
187 tortugamon : They did them wiht ZB001 so I would have thought they would want to do it with ZB002 as well. Guess not. Guess we will just have to wait and see. It
188 sunrisevalley : With respect, I think you are off track there. Boeing only have one OEW and that is based on their standard configuration. Now there is the differenc
189 ferpe : I've had the Boeing MEW explained to me, it is for a complete very basic variant of the frame with a basic cabin. The Airbus MWE (note the different
190 Stitch : Which is why I prefer to use Operating Empty Weight (OEW), as the definition for OEW is the same in both Airbus' and Boeing's ACAPs so they are somew
191 KarelXWB : But this is precisely what I meant: the cabin of ZA006 was made as light as possible.
192 sunrisevalley : O.K. I see where you are at. The point of interest is how much did they put in over and above the MEW not that the MEW at that time is relevant today
193 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : AMX ZA563 (127) trying to fly a B-1 again today as well as RBA ZA446 (130): http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE563 http://flightaware.com/live/flig
194 Post contains links KarelXWB : JAL ZA187 scheduled for a B1 flight today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20131011/1920Z/KCHS/KMYR
195 NYC777 : Weather at Paine doesn't look good for the 2 B-1's scheduled there for today.
196 seabosdca : ZA563 (LN127) is up and the weather looks decent out my window (facing north in Seattle). Hopefully they can get ZA446 (LN130) up while the going is
197 Post contains links KarelXWB : Apparently LN113 is leased from FLY Leasing Limited. http://airnation.net/2013/10/11/fly-787-purchase/
198 seabosdca : And ZA446 (130) is up.
199 Post contains links NYC777 : Boeing is going all aggressive today. Currently have three airplanes up: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE563 - B-1 http://flightaware.com/live/f
200 7BOEING7 : Unfortunately: GUN ZA386 (104) is probably a B-2 as they are filed KCHS/KCHS and they normally do the approaches at another field. JAL ZA175 (20) is
201 seabosdca : Looks like this one (JAL LN20) was cancelled.
202 Post contains links KarelXWB : And it's back online. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20131011/2200Z/KPAE/KPAE
203 7BOEING7 : Definitely B-2.
204 NYC777 : ZA187 didn't fly today...probably tomorrow. I'm guessing that Boeing is making a big push to get a lot of 787s out the door within two weeks.
205 Post contains links hkcanadaexpat : A7-BCF (Qatar Airways #9) has been delivered and expected to leave for California shortly. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR7787 This is Boeing 7
206 Post contains links NYC777 : LN 129 is still inside the final assembly hall at CHS according to my source finishing up customer inspections. They would have to go gangbusters to
207 7BOEING7 : Although it didn't go to an "outlying field" for approaches, looked like it finished up everything else and may have completed the approaches at CHS-
208 nomadd22 : Not exactly part of production and delivery, but wasn't ZY998 scheduled to finish up it's testing about now?
209 seabosdca : It's interesting to see that all of the next four Qatar frames after BCH are also being built or scheduled to be built at Charleston. I hope the pain
210 Post contains links dynamicsguy : It should be close to another year of testing according to this article and video from Boeing.
211 dynamicsguy : Argh, too late to edit. You are right, it should be close to wrapping up. That was September 2010 it started (not 2011 as I had misremembered), and i
212 Post contains links KarelXWB : Norwegian LN136 (EI-LNC) is in paint. http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/10237974904/
213 NYC777 : LN136 is out of paint no longer in paint
214 Post contains links and images pdxswa : An early build 787-8 still destined for Lan Airlines ? Sitting at the tower apron at PAE. View Large View MediumPhoto © Bill Shemley
215 Stitch : As one of the "terrible teens", I expect that it probably won't be delivered to LAN, but instead will go to Transaero or Lion Air / Batik Air.
216 NYC777 : The aircraft going to Transaero are coming from those previously going to ANA. Those from LAN may go to Batik but no decision has been made yet.
217 Post contains links and images aussie18 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark H This one should not be to far off delivery for Aeromexico.
218 pdxswa : Stich and NYC777 thanks for the info !
219 Post contains links NYC777 : Both ZA563 and ZA446 conducted B-2 flights today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE563 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE446
220 sunrisevalley : FWIW I plugged these values into Piano -X plus a passenger load of 19 persons and the result was very close. If anything the actual fuel consumed was
221 ferpe : They probably flew a lower cost index then Piano-X assumes, what I understand Piano assumes M 0.85 and index 100. What would be a realistic index for
222 sunrisevalley : Piano-X provides options. Running the example at each economy, long range and high speed gave fuel burns of 88866, 87939 and 89075kg respectively,
223 NYC777 : Air India has bridge financing in place for 12 upcoming 787 deliveries: Oct. 15 (PTI) -- Air India has tied up financing for 12 of the 27 Dreamliners
224 WarpSpeed : Great news. I wonder if this arrangement still needs to go through the labyrinth of approvals at GOI to be a truly viable financing facility?
225 Post contains links ual747-600 : ZA187 Japan Airlines going for paint. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE187 UAL747-600
226 NYC777 : Probably, Indian love their bureaucracy...gives them a reason to jack up the prices on everyone and everything (under the table of course).
227 Post contains images Stitch : Either way, as this is just the bridge financing to take delivery, there are still plenty of opportunities to muff-up the sale-and-lease-back RFP for
228 Post contains images Sooner787 : Well, it won't take the folks at Meacham long to paint a JAL 787
229 Post contains links tortugamon : 787-9 vs 787-8 picture in the database http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boein...d=948a08c94670ed7cbd5037eb9efe262d The Air Europa order could take firm
230 Kengo : Nice comparision betweem the two. It could be the angle the photo was taken but the 789 looks much bigger than a single stretch from the 788.
231 tortugamon : It is hard to believe it is only 5 windows in front of the wing and 5 windows behind the wing. It does looks a lot bigger. The 787-10 is five in fron
232 PHX787 : Despite the issues, 1000 orders is still a success for the 787. No doubt about that.
233 lightsaber : That is impressive. Finally, some long term planning. I hope it is in place to facilitate this month's delivery. I 2nd that question. Is it set in pl
234 freqflyer : I am not sure that means the next 12 deliveries - I would take it to mean the first 12 deliveries of 27. This may be typical bureaucratese . I hope I
235 hkcanadaexpat : I read the same as you. At least it allows for the next three deliveries... Next up... Deliveries: > N964AM (Aeromexico #2/ILFC #4) > B-2726 (C
236 freqflyer : Does anyone know which AI 787 in the EMC has the structural damage to the wing due to the hydraulic failure ? And what is the current status of that
237 hkcanadaexpat : Latest EIS dates for upcoming deliveries: > N964AM (ILFC/Aeromexico): 14 October 2013 (delayed by government shutdown) - MEX-JFK 787 flights subbed
238 NYC777 : Source told me that LN 85 (B-2730) and LN 104 (B-2737) should deliver this month. I think that LN 36 (B-2726), LN 20 (JA821J), LN 32 (VT-ANG), LN 130
239 WarpSpeed : I believe you are correct. With the caveat that things are never clear with AI, a little digging discovered that this financing is provided by Deutsc
240 seabosdca : Once LN36 and LN20 deliver, then the only rework frames left will be AI's and the "terrible teens" (including LN22) rejected by ANA/LAN/RAM. That's a
241 United787 : Now that common sense had prevailed and the US Government can go back to work, the world can get on to more important things, delivering 787s! This sh
242 Post contains images KarelXWB : I guess it will depend on how big the queue is
243 Post contains links NYC777 : Looks like ZA23 on another test flight. A B-3 or a C-1? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE235
244 7BOEING7 : Definitely not a C-1. It's a B-3 if not an EWA.
245 Someone83 : LN or customer please?
246 KarelXWB : ZA235 = Air India LN32.
247 sweair : ZA235=AI?
248 Post contains links and images KELPkid : Use the "magic decoder ring:" http://nyc787.blogspot.com/ and scroll down to the first google doc (a spreadsheet with all aircraft line numbers, vari
249 tortugamon : Interesting news that he broke this week about Boeing going to 10 units per month starting on LN 158. Exciting to see if they hit that 10/month by th
250 aklrno : Could they achieve that just by getting Charleston to the same rate as the two Everett lines?
251 Post contains links rotating14 : I know this is off topic but looking at the http://flighttracker.newairplane.com/ website, it reassuring to see those birds up in the air flying aroun
252 Post contains links tortugamon : My understanding is that in May they were producing aircraft at 7/month with Charleston running at less than 2/month meaning that Everett was at more
253 Someone83 : I use his site several times each week......however it takes time to av to look up which aircraft we talk about when only the ZA-codes are used
254 Post contains links KarelXWB : ZA005 flight test equipment was removed and the bird was towed to the EMC. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/390972608281210880
255 tortugamon : What fantastic news. I guess that means that the GENx pip has been certified and ZA004 Trent 1000 C should not be far behind. I wonder if they will u
256 KarelXWB : The engine maker will have to ramp up production first. ANA's first 787s were delivered with Package A despite Package B was certified.
257 lightsaber : I keep coming back hoping for more of a countdown to a hundred delivered 787s! Lightsaber
258 Post contains links dynamicsguy : However Charleston won't reach 3/month this year by their own admission (article here), so Everett will have to increase to at least a little beyond
259 Post contains images Bralo20 : Registration is going to be OO-JDL and the plane will receive the name "Diamond" (every Jetair plane has a name)
260 United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. DELIVERED TO DATE: 95 Aircraft to 16 Airlines
261 Post contains links 777ER : 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 22 (by 777ER Oct 18 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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