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Delta Adds SEA-SFO; Ups SEA-LAX/LAS  
User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4792 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16904 times:
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Looks like Delta will be adding 6x daily SEA-SFO nonstops using E75s starting end of March 2014, increasing to 7x daily in June 2014. Flights have been loaded on delta.com and other GDS and are already bookable as of now:

SEA-SFO:

DL 5781 630am - 840am
DL 5805 855am - 1105am (start June 2014)
DL 5734 1000am -1210pm
DL 5736 1200pm - 210pm
DL 5738 315pm - 525pm
DL 5742 530pm - 740pm
DL 5787 825pm -1035pm

SFO-SEA:

DL 5734 7am - 905am
DL 5736 915am -1120am
DL 5738 1135am - 140pm
DL 5782 1pm - 305pm (start June 2014)
DL 5742 245pm - 450pm
DL 5787 550pm - 755pm
DL 5785 810pm - 1015pm

Also, SEA-LAX will go to 7x daily (6 E75s + 1 A319) while SEA-LAS will bump up to 5x daily (all CR9s). Appears that all flights are bookable now. DL will still codeshare with AS on SEA-LAX and SEA-SFO, but I can't find any codeshares on SEA-LAS anymore.

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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3452 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16685 times:

Wow, that's a lot of flights! Where are these planes going to be parking? Guess DL is trying to take control of the connecting flows in SEA, rather than continuing to rely on AS for feed.

Jeremy


User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16603 times:

Sounds like a logical expansion of the Delta Shuttle branding out west that was recently announced.

Delta Shuttle Branding Added To LAX-SFO (by simairlinenet Aug 1 2013 in Civil Aviation)

Makes you wonder what route(s) out west will get it next.


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11116 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16513 times:

Wow.

Is SEA big enough for the two of them? This is obviously not too dramatic an increase in capacity - relative to the market - on any of these routes, but in terms of the message it sends and its strategic significance, I think this is pretty major. As it stands now, I think there are only a few major U.S. markets left that DL isn't going to be linking to SEA (BOS, ORD, SAN and DEN come to mind immediately). Rightly or wrongly, this will certainly raise the questions again about the relationship between DL and AS.


User currently offlineMIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 783 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16470 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
Sounds like a logical expansion of the Delta Shuttle branding out west that was recently announced.

One can wait for the Delta press release but I don't anticipate these will be branded Delta Shuttle. That creates an expectation of frequency that even six or seven a day doesn't get close to matching.


User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 630 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16440 times:

Well, Alaska has been such a success at filling their planes with their own customers, it sounds like there isn't a lot of room for codeshare passengers. If Delta wants to feed it's international operations out of Seattle, as well as serve the cities their customes want, they need to serve markets such as as San Francisco.

User currently offlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2467 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16304 times:
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Well so much for the old argument that airlines don't have focus cities anymore. It's very impressive what DL is able to do in Seattle. I look forward to this continually strengthening relationship between DL and AS.


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User currently offlinewedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5829 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16234 times:
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Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1):
Guess DL is trying to take control of the connecting flows in SEA, rather than continuing to rely on AS for feed.
Quoting commavia (Reply 3):
Rightly or wrongly, this will certainly raise the questions again about the relationship between DL and AS.

DL is bring their own brand in because AS doesn't have the capacity to accommodate both Alaska fliers and Delta fliers, and still maintain the connection traffic DL wants. But that makes four airlines flying between both SFO and LAX to SEA...others being UA, AS and VX.

Quoting panamair (Thread starter):
Looks

All starting in March?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4792 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16167 times:
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Anyone know what the Min Connecting Time (MCT) in SEA is (from International to Domestic)?

I see DL selling some 1 hour connections next summer such as HKG-SEA-SFO and ICN-SEA-LAX:

DL138 HKG 10:00am SEA 7:55am
DL5806 SEA 8:55am SFO 11:05am

DL198 ICN 5:20pm SEA 12:05pm
DL5682 SEA 1:05pm LAX 3:44pm


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4792 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 16134 times:
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Quoting wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
All starting in March?

SEA-SFO starts end of March with 6x daily, and then goes to 7x in June
SEA-LAX - additional frequency comes online in June
SEA-LAS - additional frequency comes online in April


User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1128 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 16089 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 8):
Anyone know what the Min Connecting Time (MCT) in SEA is (from International to Domestic)?

Per GDS Delta says:

D/D... 1:00 online
D/D....1:10 offline
D/I... 1:10
I/D... 1:30
I/I.... 1:30


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16929 posts, RR: 48
Reply 11, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15939 times:

This is what partners do! Not . Granted, there is no way DL can have a TPAC hub without being able to control the flow, but this makes things more complicated for AS/DL. Again.


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User currently offlineavi8 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15925 times:
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Where are these airplane coming from??


avi8
User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 16929 posts, RR: 48
Reply 13, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15907 times:

Quoting avi8 (Reply 12):

Where are these airplane coming from??


MEM?



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User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15900 times:

Wow, with what DL is doing in SEA, I don't see how anyone can say that AS and DL are good friends. Friends don't fight wars.

User currently offlinecaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 348 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15862 times:
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So has Compass Airlines established a west coast crew base to accommodate crews flying along the west coast?

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1824 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15847 times:

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 15):
So has Compass Airlines established a west coast crew base to accommodate crews flying along the west coast?

As of now, no. They could use one though.


User currently offlineairtechy From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 462 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15832 times:

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 14):
Wow, with what DL is doing in SEA, I don't see how anyone can say that AS and DL are good friends. Friends don't fight wars.

It seems the "friends" couldn't supply enough codeshare seats for Delta's rapidly expanding Seattle operation. Therefore, Delta has stepped in to take up the slack.  

Actually it probably means AS is flying with high low factors which is good for them too.

Jim


User currently offlineroseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9375 posts, RR: 52
Reply 18, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 15814 times:

Wow that is big expansion. SEA-SFO is taking on UA which is biggest in the market. Knowing UAs past performance in SEA means they likely retreat.


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User currently offlinethreeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15674 times:

DL will have an interesting time parking these birds in SEA. Hardly any space at peak times of the day in the S gates.

I expect we'll see some $79 tickets on SEA-SFO again. Never thought OAK would be the premium airport but WN doesn't act very aggressively now and SEA-OAK is a mere duopoly compared to the bloodbath brewing on SEA-SFO.


User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15677 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 2):
Makes you wonder what route(s) out west will get it next.

PHX? SAN? DEN?

It is very good to see DL growing in SEA. SEA has become its own region in the DL domestic system. With all these extra flights, what is the gate situation looking like?



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User currently offlineDesertFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15649 times:

Just what we need at SFO, more small planes connecting major cities. I completely understand it makes sense for frequency and economics, but the delays are getting worse and worse each year.

User currently onlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1912 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15651 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11):
This is what partners do! Not . Granted, there is no way DL can have a TPAC hub without being able to control the flow, but this makes things more complicated for AS/DL.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 14):
Wow, with what DL is doing in SEA, I don't see how anyone can say that AS and DL are good friends. Friends don't fight wars.

I think AS will still continue to be a key part of DL's SEA strategy. I mean I am sure there were some calls between ATL and SEA saying "we need X amount of seats between SEA-SFO, Y amount of seats SEA-LAS, etc" and AS said "we can't provide that and accommodate our own customers" so DL said "well, we will have to do it ourselves". I am sure for feed from places like BOI, GEG, SMF, etc AS will still be key to helping top off the TPAC flights for DL.


User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32175 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15470 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 22):
I mean I am sure there were some calls between ATL and SEA saying "we need X amount of seats between SEA-SFO, Y amount of seats SEA-LAS, etc" and AS said "we can't provide that and accommodate our own customers"

That's illegal. No such calls took place.



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User currently offlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2467 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 15360 times:
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Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 14):
Wow, with what DL is doing in SEA, I don't see how anyone can say that AS and DL are good friends. Friends don't fight wars.

To me it seems that they aren't fighting a war, rather supplementing each others' services and growing together. If it was a war they probably wouldn't be codesharing.

Quoting avi8 (Reply 12):
Where are these airplane coming from??

MCI-SLC, STL-SLC, MSP-SLC, feeding the planes to SLC-SFO, which then fly to LAX and SEA.



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25 Post contains images MaverickM11 : And what about their past performance in SFO... Well, I think it's something like that. LASSEA for instance starts at $178 roundtrip, or about 10 cen
26 as739x : This will go close to the top of my list on, not seeing it coming. Highly doubtful. SFO-SEA is a huge market for UA. I'd suspect more 757's and 739 in
27 TWA85 : Could SEA-PHX and SEA-SAN be coming soon as well?
28 enilria : AS code share will probably disappear off all these routes. That's the company line, but is patently false. If I were at Alaska I'd be dropping the D
29 threeifbyair : SAN is an AS monopoly route, currently 7-8x daily. B6 at one time had a 1x daily but it is not operating currently. Yields are generally a little bet
30 MesaFlyGuy : Why do you think that? In no way? More seats without having to use their own equipment, international connections, these seem like positives to me.
31 MIflyer12 : Tomorrow's UA SFO-SEA shows a CRJ, 3x CR7, a 73G, 3x 738, and a 757, so there's plenty of room to upgauge. For reference, VX shows a 319 + 4x 320.
32 Post contains images SANFan : Back when DL started adding this domestic feed out of SEA, such as to LAX and LAS, I thought SAN would be pretty high on their list of possible desti
33 Post contains images planesntrains : While I don't doubt DL's potential, I'm not sure we can yet say what they are "able" to do. Eighteen months from now we could be looking at a complet
34 as739x : Agreed. And UA will want to add capacity without adding flights next summer. So I believe we'll see the RJ's removed from the route.
35 Post contains images peanuts : What are you talking about? They're negotiating, can't you tell? Oh, kind of like how DL doesn't want to take KE's or SU's junk? Sorry, couldn't resi
36 modesto2 : I'm surprised that UA still operates 1-class CRJs on SEASFO. There's a definite lack of product consistency with that equipment serving the same marke
37 avi8 : I have been really disappointed in UA now that you mention it. The lack of product consistency is radical and absurd. Some aircraft have Wifi, some a
38 MesaFlyGuy : The E-175s have 12 seats in F and I cannot remember the mix of Economy Comfort and Economy in the back (I want to say it's 12/60 but I'm not sure). T
39 wedgetail737 : According to DL's website, it has four rows of 1st class (1X2 seating) and coach as (2X2) seating with a total of 76 seats. It has Gogo Inflight Inte
40 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Exactly, but they're not trying to build a trans oceanic hub. Who *is* DL on good terms with these days ?
41 Post contains images planesntrains : Delta. Which just might be enough for them. -Dave
42 jpl777 : Is this SEA-SFO flight by Compass going to be marketed as another Delta Shuttle west coast route just like the SFO-LAX flights?
43 MSPNWA : These expansions go so far beyond international connectivity that I just don't buy that as a reason. 6/7x to SFO is trying to gain a foothold on the
44 christao17 : That was exactly my thought. If it were just a matter of route connectivity, they would run one, maybe two flights between SEA and SFO timed for conn
45 MIflyer12 : Delta could improve aircraft utilization by 0.1% across the 1200+ aircraft mainline + DCI fleet and find enough hours to add these flights. This is n
46 Post contains images SANFan : IF loads were light then of course there would be no reason for DL to add their own metal on the route. Big "if". I see no reason to expect that the
47 Post contains images planesntrains : I wondered if my comment would fire you up a bit. I did say "if". Like you, I can only guess at the load factor as well as yield on the route for AS.
48 ADent : Plenty of room to downgauge. SEA-LAX is all RJ - the day I looked it was 2xCRJ and 1xCR7.
49 RWA380 : I'd like to see at least a couple DL flights PDX-SEA, but chances are they will use AS/QX for this route as well.
50 Flighty : Delta has the capability to crush and part out AS within several years. This should be watched carefully by govt regulators.
51 PHX787 : I wouldn't bet on it, unfortunately, for either route. AS is pretty well established in PHX as well.
52 RyanairGuru : On what grounds? Competition isn't illegal. McDs can crush a mom-and-pop diner when they enter a market and Starbucks can put the local Coffee House
53 runway23 : I'd say the new routes they will launch will probably depend on a mix of corporate contract demands and how many passengers currently use AS. It seem
54 Goldenshield : This hasn't been expanded upon, but the SEA-LAS flight goes from 1x mainline to 3x CR7/CR9 on 1/5, and then ups to 5x CR9 4/1.
55 Post contains links Flighty : Those are interesting points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predatory_pricing "predatory pricing happens when large companies with huge cash reserves
56 enilria : All this stuff DL is adding in SEA (LAS/LAX/SFO/ANC) are AS largest routes. These are really cutting into AS revenue. Additionally, these are not all
57 HiFlyerAS : I'm anxious about these DL moves...it feels like they're putting the screws on AS to force them to sell. AS seemed to look upon DL as the benevolent p
58 seatback : Or, another option would be for AS to cozy up closer with AA and convince them to start SEA-LHR/NRT.
59 MIflyer12 : This statement has no value relative to AS. It's not a baby airline. It's not a startup. Today's flights SFO-SEA: AS = 8 x 737 UA = 757, 3x 737, 2x C
60 BoeingGuy : I don't think AS has to worry. They have far more brand loyalty on the West Coast. If AS can beat WN on their turf, they can certainly beat DL. AS is
61 bobnwa : [I think all this speculation about animosity between DL and AS is an airliners . net fabrication. Neither DL or AS has ever alluded to problems betwe
62 jetlanta : Agreed. Delta is investing hundreds of millions of dollars into building a West Coast gateway at SEA. They are making sure that their growing network
63 MSPNWA : Do you honestly believe that they're is going come out publicly and say they don't like each other? Actions speak louder than words. These actions ar
64 AS739BSI : This has occurred with KE and now DL is after AS. Cash and credit might help you win out in the dominance game, but if the passengers vote with their
65 bobnwa : I would expect from all the hoopalaw here on airliners . net, there would have been some statement by either carrier. Again any dispute is only in th
66 enilria : I haven't really seen it as an attempt to get them to sell, but I guess that is possible.There is an unwritten rule in the industry that you can fly f
67 StuckInCA : I'm not sure how I feel about that. I, and many I work with, fly plenty of AS as we are in the SEA area and so we all use Alaska MVP. That said, most
68 Coronado : To me the target is United. Delta and Alaska recognize that together they can build a strong hub at SEA to draw people from western markets to SEA and
69 wedgetail737 : That's what DL said about PDX.
70 BoeingGuy : I don't see where you get that at all from Brad Tilden's statement. As others stated, I think the friction between DL and AS is something we on A.net
71 MesaFlyGuy : Agreed, to me that sounded pretty optimistic. He stated that they will, logically, watch the relationships to make sure they don't push it too far, b
72 SHUPirate1 : I assume Delta is close to being maxed out on gate space in Seattle...where are they going to expand if they really decide to go for blood?
73 threeifbyair : Besides the large South Satellite operation, DL has departures leaving from B concourse. I think there is a bit of slack on A that DL could access pe
74 HiFlyerAS : This crossed my mind as well. The biggest loser will likely be UA...a shadow of their former selves in SEA. It will hurt VX as well...still a small p
75 jetlanta : SEA is getting close to generating nearly as much O&D revenue at SEA as AS. I'm not sure your rule applies here, my friend. What if most of the A
76 Post contains images MaverickM11 : I don't think the airline that just announced CTU has anything to worry about from the one that is still trying to find its first HKG nonstop, any ti
77 jetlanta : Ditto. If Delta can make ATL and JFK work, I don't think SEA is going to be an issue for passengers.
78 enilria : Was UA the target on SEA-ANC and SEA-LAS? Obviously that makes no sense. He clearly says there is friction. I think he is downplaying it, but he is d
79 RWA380 : At one time UA was a big player in SEA. I have said, and will continue to be convinced that, UAs era at SEA is almost over. Intra Northwest flying wi
80 MesaFlyGuy : He clearly says that there have been some instances of friction. He never said whether it was with DL, AA, or whoever it may be. He also said that th
81 MaverickM11 : Partners don't blanket each other's hubs. You have to be pretty Pollyanna to think everything is fine and dandy when DL is picking off existing AS ro
82 Post contains images MesaFlyGuy : Why thank you, I do try to be a very optimistic person!
83 United1 : There is a problem with that statement in that DL and AS can't work together to do anything involving route planning or building a hub together as ne
84 baw716 : This is the secret of Alaska Airlines. They OWN the Pacific Northwest and California markets to/from Alaska. The Compass E190s that DL is adding is s
85 FlyASAGuy2005 : Once again, the drama queens are out. End the partnership immediately? Really? Let's talk 6 months from now when nothing changes...yet DL and AS are n
86 Post contains links FlyPIJets : In other news, Delta just announced they would be replacing paper manuals in the flight deck with MS Surface tablets. http://allthingsd.com/20130930/d
87 usdcaguy : One thing to be aware of is that JFK doesn't work for DL the way EWR works for UA. Much of their flying goes over AMS/CDG with JFK being mostly for O
88 crownvic : And I am not the least bit happy about connecting from a transpac wide-body, for a 2+HR CRJ flight to LAS. These airlines continue to make decisions
89 roseflyer : I think this is more about attacking SEA's highest O/D markets. SFO is a huge market from SEA (goes back and forth as the biggest or second biggest O/
90 wedgetail737 : Why don't you take KE direct ICN-LAS??? In the grand scheme of things, AS and DL compete in just a few markets. Right now, the Seattle economy is doi
91 Post contains links panamair : Here's the official press release from earlier today announcing the new SEA services: http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=2120
92 BoeingGuy : A few interesting points I noticed about that press release. They still list Osaka as a destination from SEA, even though it's being discontinued. Al
93 runway23 : And surprise surprise, not a single word on AS in that announcement.
94 Goldenshield : If you don't like it, take another way. No one's forcing you to fly such a routing. Besides, coach on mainline, and coach on the RJ is going to give
95 laca773 : It is, and this is why I think we see DL adding significant service in the SEA-LAX market. I wouldn't be surprised to see UA eventually drop this rou
96 RWA380 : And despite this being all about DLs new International gateway at SEA, DL does not list it as a hub, yet. I hope AS reads between the lines with this
97 NASCARAirforce : Delta is adding a whole bunch of weird point to point again. I looked on the MCO website for new flights and they are doing P2P all over the place lik
98 iowaman : Looks like nearly all of it is Saturday only with various starting dates. All the cities you mentioned will be on CR7 equipment except for MSY which
99 crownvic : Where do I start? That is exactly what I had been doing, until the Delta/SkyPesos partnership now totally screws you, if you fly Korean Air. None of
100 FlyASAGuy2005 : Anything ex-MCO during the busy months is not "weird". These segments are EXTREMELY seasonal. And cater to a certain market; many of the seats being
101 Post contains links surfdog75 : http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/n...adds-flights-puts-pressure-on.html I think DL has just decided to start filling the one gapping hole in its net
102 Goldenshield : Yes, you're not being forced. If you don't like the routing, don't accept it. Change your dates, or choose another airline. The fact that you find ha
103 Post contains links FATFlyer : The meaning behind DL's moves appears to depend upon someone's viewpoint. In San Francisco, they view this as part of a larger move of new DL routes a
104 modesto2 : True, but ultimately there's an underlying strategy for DL's moves and in this case, it's a focus on LAX and SEA, not SFO. But for DL to achieve thos
105 Post contains links HiFlyerAS : Seems Motley Fool has noticed there might be trouble between the two lovers as well: http://www.fool.com/investing/genera...-to-be-friends-with-alaska
106 Post contains images planesntrains : Perhaps it's as simple as DL being pro-DL and not being anti-AS. If they just want to be in control of their feed and not reliant on another partner,
107 GentFromAlaska : That's exactly what Fox Business News channel reported today (Wednesday) specifically feed to/from the far East.
108 BoeingGuy : Yeah, I really don't think this is the big deal that people like to make out of every little thing (especially when it involves DL and AS). I'm sure
109 Triple7Lr : This is the real story. The fact that DL and AS will code share on this route tells me the relationship is strong. However if I was UA I would be con
110 Post contains images MaverickM11 : They're poaching cheap one stop traffic
111 rwsea : The old UA would have responded by simply cutting back capacity and making no attempt to compete whatsoever. Not sure how the new UA will respond, bu
112 Post contains images Triple7Lr : It wouldn't we a post about DL w/out this guy. The fact is DL will pick up some O&D traffic and most importantly business travelers. The new DL d
113 nomorerjs : When DL adds SEA/LAX to DFW, IAH, and ORD I will believe they are serious about SEA and LAX.
114 Post contains images MaverickM11 : Sure they'll pick *something* up but it's stuff AS clearly doesn't want to touch with a barge pole. And let's look at the connections they'll offer f
115 JetAmericaS80 : Alaska is already preparing to dump additional capacity into affected markets, and preemptively up the number off seats on SEA-BOI.... Cheers, Jetty
116 MesaFlyGuy : So you have something in writing saying this? Not doubting you, it would just be an intersting read.
117 JetAmericaS80 : Nothing sharable yet. Cheers
118 airtechy : Business people in SFO and LAX who want to fly to Asia on Delta metal will. This saves a connection in SLC. Jim
119 MaverickM11 : They can do that over NRT right now.
120 KirkSeattle : As a Seattle resident, I love Delta and Alaska Airlines. I use Delta for TRANSCON and Alaska for west coast and Hawaii. I'm happy to see the new LAX,
121 PassedV1 : What do you all think about the E-75's becoming more significant with this announcement North/South with this announcement. The hole I see in Alaskas
122 Post contains images MaverickM11 : It's loaded. Share away
123 Post contains links ADent : DL has dropped SFO-NRT starting in april. See DL Ending SFO-NRT (by ANA787 Oct 3 2013 in Civil Aviation) .
124 SANFan : It would be great if someone with knowledge of previous and the new AS capacity in these markets could compare so we can find out how much AS is actu
125 MesaFlyGuy : Why is their website showing CRJs for the flights between BOI and PDX/SAN? And the seatmap has that of a CRJ-200, not a -700.
126 JetAmericaS80 : Apparently, AS will be upping available seats on SEA-BOI by 37% (indicator of AS finding out a potential future DL addition?), LAS by 34%, LAX by 8%,
127 RWA380 : I checked for June 18-25 2014, on Alaskaair.com and the 7:45am departure to BOI from PDX is a CR7, and the return at 9:10pm is also operated by a CR7
128 msp747 : The CR9's are not a larger aircraft. Both it and E75's are the same size, seat wise. Both have 76 seats (12 in first/12 Economy Comfort/52Y) Capacity
129 msp747 : It would be interesting to see if they tried to fill this gap. I'm sure Bombardier would be more than willing to cut them a deal on some C-Series jet
130 washingtonflyer : Its interesting to look at comparisons at the CR9. I'm not sure if this accurate for US, but according to Seatguru, a CR9 for US Airways has 99 seats,
131 malaysia : I heard that UA is now going all mainline on SFO-SEA
132 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I hope DL have strapped themselves in for a bumpy ride. With AS (the 800lb gorilla in SEA) and UA (the 800lb gorilla in SFO) both having piled additi
133 runway23 : US Airways has 79 seats on their CR9s. In fact the most I have seen on CR9s is 90 seats on Air Nostrum. I believe that is the maximum certified capac
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