panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4783 posts, RR: 26 Posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 16718 times:
Looks like Delta will be adding 6x daily SEA-SFO nonstops using E75s starting end of March 2014, increasing to 7x daily in June 2014. Flights have been loaded on delta.com and other GDS and are already bookable as of now:
Also, SEA-LAX will go to 7x daily (6 E75s + 1 A319) while SEA-LAS will bump up to 5x daily (all CR9s). Appears that all flights are bookable now. DL will still codeshare with AS on SEA-LAX and SEA-SFO, but I can't find any codeshares on SEA-LAS anymore.
commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10989 posts, RR: 62
Reply 3, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16327 times:
Is SEA big enough for the two of them? This is obviously not too dramatic an increase in capacity - relative to the market - on any of these routes, but in terms of the message it sends and its strategic significance, I think this is pretty major. As it stands now, I think there are only a few major U.S. markets left that DL isn't going to be linking to SEA (BOS, ORD, SAN and DEN come to mind immediately). Rightly or wrongly, this will certainly raise the questions again about the relationship between DL and AS.
MIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16284 times:
Quoting srbmod (Reply 2): Sounds like a logical expansion of the Delta Shuttle branding out west that was recently announced.
One can wait for the Delta press release but I don't anticipate these will be branded Delta Shuttle. That creates an expectation of frequency that even six or seven a day doesn't get close to matching.
Prost From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 16254 times:
Well, Alaska has been such a success at filling their planes with their own customers, it sounds like there isn't a lot of room for codeshare passengers. If Delta wants to feed it's international operations out of Seattle, as well as serve the cities their customes want, they need to serve markets such as as San Francisco.
MesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 2339 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16118 times:
Well so much for the old argument that airlines don't have focus cities anymore. It's very impressive what DL is able to do in Seattle. I look forward to this continually strengthening relationship between DL and AS.
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wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5813 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 16048 times:
Quoting SESGDL (Reply 1): Guess DL is trying to take control of the connecting flows in SEA, rather than continuing to rely on AS for feed.
Quoting commavia (Reply 3): Rightly or wrongly, this will certainly raise the questions again about the relationship between DL and AS.
DL is bring their own brand in because AS doesn't have the capacity to accommodate both Alaska fliers and Delta fliers, and still maintain the connection traffic DL wants. But that makes four airlines flying between both SFO and LAX to SEA...others being UA, AS and VX.
threeifbyair From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 649 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 15488 times:
DL will have an interesting time parking these birds in SEA. Hardly any space at peak times of the day in the S gates.
I expect we'll see some $79 tickets on SEA-SFO again. Never thought OAK would be the premium airport but WN doesn't act very aggressively now and SEA-OAK is a mere duopoly compared to the bloodbath brewing on SEA-SFO.
LV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1900 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 15465 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 11): This is what partners do! Not . Granted, there is no way DL can have a TPAC hub without being able to control the flow, but this makes things more complicated for AS/DL.
Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 14): Wow, with what DL is doing in SEA, I don't see how anyone can say that AS and DL are good friends. Friends don't fight wars.
I think AS will still continue to be a key part of DL's SEA strategy. I mean I am sure there were some calls between ATL and SEA saying "we need X amount of seats between SEA-SFO, Y amount of seats SEA-LAS, etc" and AS said "we can't provide that and accommodate our own customers" so DL said "well, we will have to do it ourselves". I am sure for feed from places like BOI, GEG, SMF, etc AS will still be key to helping top off the TPAC flights for DL.
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32019 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15284 times:
Quoting LV (Reply 22): I mean I am sure there were some calls between ATL and SEA saying "we need X amount of seats between SEA-SFO, Y amount of seats SEA-LAS, etc" and AS said "we can't provide that and accommodate our own customers"