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Iran Seeks Direct Flights To USA  
User currently offlineIR800 From Iran, joined May 2009, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 19732 times:

Main Article:
Rouhani orders investigating establishment of Iran-US direct flight line

Doesn't it seem too optimistic? Specially while IR still has problem for refueling at some of EU airports.

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User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 1055 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 19690 times:

Let's all hope that the better relationships seemingly being established can result in Iran Air and others getting more modern airliners soon. After all, there's plenty of A345's now available for starters, which might be ideal for a long THR - JFK route. I don't suppose IR 747SP's are in a fit state to run frequent flights if they were allowed to start services.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 19501 times:

I hope they come back. If relations are restored, I see IR taking A345s as the above post suggested.


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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3849 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 19429 times:

It's encouraging to see Rouhani seeking general appeasement and dialogue with western nations.

However, it is a little early to tell whether these are just nice words to get themselves some leniency or whether anything concrete will come out of it.

I'm sure the US and the EU would be willing to improve the diplomatic and economical relationship, starting with some direct flights, if Iran was to, for instance, allow IAEA investigators to monitor their nuclear program.



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User currently offlinejayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1029 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 19248 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 1):
I don't suppose IR 747SP's are in a fit state to run frequent flights if they were allowed to start services.

That will be one hell of a nostalgic service to see those 747SPs going TATL again!
I definitely would get a hop on those for sure.

This said, I doubt seeing them fly in US. Maybe somewhere in Q4 2014 - Q1 2015.
Alot of things need to be amended before IR flies in the US again.



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User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1801 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 19202 times:

Usually in these kind of political standoffs the first thing that comes back is sports not airline routes.

I bet there would be a reasonable amount of JFK-THR traffic to justify it and using an A345 would make a lot of sense--low acquisition cost, modern fleet, long legs.

But before that can happen we would have to remove sanctions on Iran. The people deserve safe airplanes to fly on regardless of the politics involved.



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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 19178 times:

There is too much bad blood and too much history between the U.S and Iran

This is a long way off people....

there might be a better chance that Cubana lands in the U.S before Iran Air


User currently offlineatcsundevil From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1230 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 18973 times:

There is A LOT that needs to happen before direct US-Iran flights return. Politics can move quickly in some areas, but three decades of zero relations and general mistrust can't be undone in mere months. This is something that will likely take years to eventually develop. Should relations continue to positively progress, I find it more likely that sanctions would be removed in stages to allow Iranian airlines to modernize their fleets with Airbus and Boeing aircraft. Some time thereafter, maybe we could see direct flights established to JFK, IAD, LAX, etc. This won't be a quick or easy process despite what might be the best intentions from Rouhani.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4478 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18565 times:

Why everyone is saying 345?
I bet there is enough demand for daily 77W service between few airports in the US to THR.
But politically this might be years and years away.


User currently offlinefsnuffer From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18514 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
I bet there is enough demand for daily 77W service between few airports in the US to THR.

I don't know about the demand. As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18440 times:

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
I don't know about the demand. As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

Do you have any personal connection with Iran? If not, I strongly doubt that your individual position on that is likely to be any kind of sensible barometer for the market. As I understand it, there are plenty of Persians in the US. A meaningful thaw in relations might well result in a decent market.



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User currently offlineIR800 From Iran, joined May 2009, 47 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18340 times:

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

Did you read the article?

Quote:
Rouhani ordered ... for removing problems of Iranian nationals in the US.
Quote:
Caretaker of Supreme Iranian Expatriates Council Akbar Torkan.
Quote:
He expressed the hope that Iranian expatriates' coming and going would be facilitated.


User currently offlinecedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8202 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 18234 times:

Iran and the USA are natural allies, and Iranians love America. The streets of Tehran were packed with people demonstrating in solidarity with America on the night of 9/11, for instance. Don't believe the press who love a punch-up, or a few right wing nutjobs who love a war.

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
I don't know about the demand. As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

Oh god. There are nearly a million Iranians in LA alone (didn't you know it's really called Tehrangeles?). 80% of the population of Beverly Hills is Iranian (including the mayor). The reason Lufty fly 747s and A340-600s to IKA isn't because there's so much traffic to Germany, they all connect to LA through Frankfurt. Same with Emirates - OK their bread and butter on US routes is the subcontinent (India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka) but after that comes Iran. Huge traffic flows every day between US and Iran.

And plenty of Americans know how great Iran is, and go as tourists for it's archaeological treasures (Persepolis, Necropolis, Isfahan), friendly and cultured people, and ancient civilisation. I have been there ten times and there's usually been at least one American in the group, and they are always given an embarrassingly fond welcome.

I am glad the leaders are talking and I hope the (petty) differences can be ironed out. I am sure they can. Iran Air will serve JFK and LAX in the future. Maybe not tomorrow, but one day not so far away.



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User currently offlinejayunited From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1040 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 18082 times:

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
I don't know about the demand. As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

I don't think their comment was mean't for American's because you are correct there are Tehran would not rank high on the list of places to visit for American citizen. However you are forgetting that there are a lot of Iranians now living in the US a number that has be growing for many years so "IF" and that is a very big IF (because there is still to much tension between these 2 countries) direct or nonstop service were to every start up it would be aimed directly at Iranian ex-pat now living in the US. But there is still a problem Iranians who are now living in the US if they do travel home to Iran now they are probably traveling on EK, TK or some other Middle East airline so how will IR convince them to stop flying on EK and instead start flying on IR. I don't know how good IR's service is but we all know how good EK's onboard service is.


User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17892 times:

what type of airplane in their fleet has the range for Tehran-LAX anyway?

User currently offlineSemaex From Germany, joined Nov 2009, 833 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17647 times:

Quoting g500 (Reply 6):
There is too much bad blood and too much history between the U.S and Iran

This is a long way off people....

there might be a better chance that Cubana lands in the U.S before Iran Air

Is that a phrase of desperation or hope?

Living in Germany - knowing about my country's history - I'm telling you that things can change dramatically in no time. What's a decade? Nothing when you look at the big picture. And when the business is right, you'll see masses of people commuting between Iran and the United States like ants

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
I don't know about the demand. As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

China isn't on my list of places to go, but that doesn't keep more than a dozen daily widebodies flying between my homenation and the Empire in the East.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Iran and the USA are natural allies, and Iranians love America. The streets of Tehran were packed with people demonstrating in solidarity with America on the night of 9/11, for instance. Don't believe the press who love a punch-up, or a few right wing nutjobs who love a war.

  

As a matter of fact, I know few nations that are so enthusiast about american culture and lifestyle. The United States are well-respected among the iranian people. They are unbelievably liberated and take the US as an example.
Politics is a whole different matter, and most iranians are quite fed up with the way the country is/was run by narrow-minded so-called "muslim" leaders.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
The reason Lufty fly 747s and A340-600s to IKA isn't because there's so much traffic to Germany, they all connect to LA through Frankfurt. Same with Emirates

And now you know who'd be the first ones to suffer from a direct Iran-US service  



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17586 times:

There's a looooot of ex-pats from Iran in the US. A personal, close friend is one of them. She told me she really supports the new prez.

But I'm starting to agree after reading a bit, it is quite optimistic..... but while it is optimistic, I would NOT be surprised ONE bit if this guy and Mr. Obama work something out.... Hell, If flights resume during my month-long Spring Vacation, I'd be one of the first Americans to fly to Iran on IR direct since the 70s, just for the heck of it.



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User currently offlinelugie From Germany, joined Jun 2013, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 17298 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
Why everyone is saying 345?

I would say that the A345 is suitable for this route because - as others have already mentioned - there are more and more of them being second-hand resold (Isn't SQ seeking to sell theirs pretty soon?), so they are available for pretty reasonable prices, plus they have an extremely long range, plus they are quite new compared to the rest of IR's fleet, so no age restrictions to be feared.



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User currently offlineRGFC From Italy, joined Jul 2013, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16812 times:

A few months ago a war against Iran on its nuclear programme seemed a given fact. Yes, Iran has changed President, but Iran's Supreme Leader is still Ayatollah Khamenei. Don't expect Iran to suddenly become a friend of the West.
Anyway, on another thread we discussed about the possibility of a direct DXB-TLV flight (by QF); now we're talking about THR to the US: if these flights should ever occur, the world would really be changing ...


User currently offlineBoeingMerica From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16702 times:

Quoting RussianJet (Reply 10):

Likewise I would say those with a personal conenction to Iran can not sensibly judge the market either. For the exact opposite reasons someone with no connection to the market cannot. No need to try an attack the dude.

The reality is, this is not, I repeat NOT NOT NOT NOT going to happen anytime soon. And by that I mean, check back in 20 years, maybe but probably not.

Look the reality is our next door neighbor, Cuba, who has not been an aggressor towards us since the end of the cold war, only has the rights to overfly the country. Meanwhile, the country that is the state sponsor of terror in the region, the one who openly states they want a nuke to wipe our allies off the map. The one who won't stop until the west is "defeated" and the world is under muslim rule? And were going to allow Americans on these flights, and to travel to Tehran? Sheer Delusion.

Not going to happen. End of discussion.

BoeingMerica


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8663 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16701 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 5):
But before that can happen we would have to remove sanctions on Iran. The people deserve safe airplanes to fly on regardless of the politics involved.

That's def. not the case between the US and Cuba. We have many regular flights between the US and Cuba (albeit "charters"), even though there's still an embargo. So I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar agreement between Iran and the US. In fact the way things are going, I can see that happening very soon.
I know Cubana doesn't fly to the US, but Cubana and Iran Air are as different as night an day. Iran Air has a solid and long history of good safety while operating American and European aircraft.


User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 248 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16616 times:

Quoting fsnuffer (Reply 9):
As an American citizen, I don't think Tehran would be on my list of places to go.

I actually would love to go to Iran. I can see cultural tourism being actually quite big there despite what the general political feeling is.



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User currently offlineeirik From Norway, joined Mar 2005, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16545 times:

I wouldn´t be surprised if a direct route was up and running within a couple of years.

User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7719 posts, RR: 21
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 16417 times:

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 19):
Not going to happen. End of discussion.

Well, that's probably true - but I wasn't really commenting on the likeliehood of the services starting.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 19):
Likewise I would say those with a personal conenction to Iran can not sensibly judge the market either

I would say that no single individual can be an indicator really, but the fact is that one person saying "well I wouldn't go" really is less of of an indicator than someone who might well have good reason for wanting to go. I don't know whether the guy has any connection to the hypothetical market or not, which was the main reason for my response.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 19):
For the exact opposite reasons someone with no connection to the market cannot

Again, no single comment could, but someone saying they definitely would use the market because they have a personal connection is inherently more of a positive indication than someone with no connection saying that they wouldn't.

Quoting BoeingMerica (Reply 19):
No need to try an attack the dude.

I genuinely fail to see how an honest, straightforward question amounts to an 'attack' in any sense whatsoever. I think that to suggest it does would plum new depths of oversensitivity here. It was nothing more than an honest question, which contained no aggression, bad language or indeed any other possible indication of representing an attack.

Again, I understand that there is a significant Persian population in some parts of the US, so surely *if* hypothetically such services did commence, in combination with a thaw in relations, I would imagine that there would be some demand. I was merely interested to know whether that user happened to have any connection to the people that in my mind might be most likely to be customers.



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User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7438 posts, RR: 50
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 15966 times:
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As optimistic as many may be by this "renaissance man" of this new and improved Iran, I wouldn't roll out the champagne just yet. I wonder how far this routine will go in the long-run when the world community realizes this is probably just another ploy by the Iranian govt to buy time and distract the world's attention from their pursuit of a nuclear program. We've seen this before with former Ayatollahs such as Rafsanjani and Khatami, a nice guy replaces a sabre-rattler. A few months from now, we'll be right back where we started from, a refusal by the Iranian govt to cooperate with the US or the UN. Sorry to be pessimistic, but there really isn't much coming out of this that convinces me that this guy will be any different, not unless the Iranians abandon their nuke aspirations and allow UN monitors in. And giving us back our embassy would be a great start, but I doubt that'll happen
But as far as traffic between the US and Iran. I dont see service in overwhelming numbers, regardless of the demographics of certain areas.

Quoting cedarjet (Reply 12):
Oh god. There are nearly a million Iranians in LA alone (didn't you know it's really called Tehrangeles?). 80% of the population of Beverly Hills is Iranian (including the mayor).

But that doesn't necessarily translate into profit. There's probably a sizable number of those Iranians probably have little connection to Iran as probably many of them them were refugees. Many of them left prior to the revolt or leading up to it. Ive known many Iranians here in the US who have little or no desire to go back to Iran as it stirs up too many bad memories. And it probably has changed so much, they wouldn't recognise the place anyway



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25 Post contains links mham001 : That made such little logical sense, I had to look it up. Not only illogical, just plain wrong and misleading. Here is what the wiki page says the US
26 AVENSAB727 : Nice, I would like to see IAH have a flight to Tehran, either UA or Iran Air, if things work out!
27 chieft : The hope dies last. I am pretty sure that, if Iranian airlines would have a free choice of aircraft, they would not chose used A345. They would go for
28 RDH3E : I've read everyone's comments here about "what aircraft IR would use". Where did anyone ever see that IR would be the one operating the route? No such
29 Prost : Here's an American who'd like to go to Iran. I travel to countries because of the people I've met. I was amazed at how charming I've found the Iranian
30 Mah4546 : Los Angeles is Tehran's largest U.S. O&D market - and one of it's largest O&D markets period.
31 Semaex : I'm quite convinced that, having posted this statement, you are not thinking for yourself, but thinking what war-agitator and nationalist media want
32 Post contains images LH600 : Delta 777LR LAX or JFK-IKA
33 airbazar : The A350 yes but that would be way in the future. No A330 has the range to fly THR-US non-stop and I wonder if even the A346 could given the 4,000ft
34 MountainFlyer : Do you think you would have said the same thing about the USSR in 1988? Things changed dramatically in just a few short years in that situation, what
35 Braniff747SP : TK does the same. US - Iran traffic is greatly underestimated. Persian expats routinely go back and forth, but they are forced to go with intermediar
36 Toni_ : I find it quite nice and refreshing to read this news story. Whether it's feasible or not, just knowing it's being considered makes me happy and optim
37 ASA : TK is a very active carrier of Iran-US traffic. Quite a few Iranians that I know in Boston use TK for the ease of connections to their hometowns ...
38 ZEDZAG : Actually you dot need ULH frame for this operation THR is indeed at 4000ft/1220m elevation, but all of LH flights out of Teheran operate out of IKA w
39 aryonoco : The mere fact that this is being considered brings a smile to my face. Sure, it's still a long way off (if ever), and sure, everyone is being overly o
40 jetjack74 : I never made any inferences into their financial situation, so i'm not sure where you drew that conclusion. The point I was making was that they've b
41 jmc1975 : It could actually have the potential to be a market like IST. But, first of all...before anything happens...Pastor Saeed Abedini must be released fro
42 copter808 : You may not be old enough to remember it, but at one time we had pretty good relations with Iran. And, don't make the mistake of associating the citi
43 jfk777 : When the Shah was around and IR flew its 747SP to JFK they stopped at LHR on the way to NYC and nonstop back to Tehran.
44 copter808 : Why not? How much do you really know about Tehran, or Iran. You have no desire to learn about other places and cultures? Unfortunately a typical Amer
45 aryonoco : Was that to refuel? Or to pick up connecting passengers at LHR? I always though the SP had the legs to do THR-JFK non-stop, but perhaps I am mistaken
46 SANflyr : I would love to visit Iran. By all accounts, the Iranian people are extremely hospitable and as described in multiple posts above...very in tune with
47 JoeCanuck : People seem to forget that the revolution was to get rid of the American imposed dictator, the Shah, and his savage SAVAK secret police. The US and UK
48 lightsaber : If the visa process both ways was 'simple enough,' I'm certain of the demand. SQ has already sold theirs. There are A346s ex-VS also available and tw
49 LH600 : Obama needs to get approval from his boss Benjamin Netanyahu and the folks over at AIPAC....
50 copter808 : AS soon as this happens, I'm on my way!
51 JoeCanuck : First, every US intel agency admits Iran is not building nukes. The IAEA has been inspecting every Iranian site containing nuclear material for years
52 aryonoco : The US government doesn't seem to have any trouble doing business with many other countries who also don't recognise Israel as a sovereign nation, UA
53 aryonoco : Eh?! No! The IAEA is constantly denied access to many of sites it wants to visit, has had many outstanding questions left unanswered by the Iranian g
54 nomadic : If the Iranian leaders are sincere about new contacts with the west I think the situation will improve much faster than anyone expects. Remember, the
55 aryonoco : No it doesn't. Iran even doesn't utter the word "Israel" in its official communication, it's always referred to as "Occupied Territories", and the Is
56 BoeingMerica : Know Iranians? One of my dearest friends is from there. His parents were born in Iran and immigrated sometime before he was born. I am by no means to
57 TC957 : It's not just THR being 4000ft up that could dictate aircraft purchase but the normal 40C plus temps in summer as well. So I doubt any A332 could do T
58 IR800 : Thanks a lot for educating us about what you call "pro nuclear weapon talk"! Just for more education, could you please address me the source where yo
59 Post contains images nimool : I've read the news in BBC Persian and FB today while i was in my lecture! I have to say i was quite surprised and shocked. Although all this sanctions
60 Miami : Question... With what aircraft would they fly into the US?? Iran Air Fleet: Airbus A300B4 Airbus A300-600R Airbus A310-200 Airbus A310-300 Airbus A320
61 qantas077 : none of those, if relations start to thaw then you can bet Iran Air will be lured to the Boeing table for some fleet...
62 Semaex : I share the same enthusiasm when it comes to IR birds flying to the west. It's always been a nice sight to see the A300 coming to FRA (not sure they s
63 IR800 : They have. Back in 2001 Iran assisted US in war in Afghanistan, and then received a good response for that: "Axis of Evil"! I can name several other
64 Post contains images einsteinboricua : The Fokker 100 definitely has the range for that I don't think so. Perhaps the US can relax sanctions enough to allow IR to purchase from Airbus or t
65 SANflyr : That would be the adult thing to do. Sanctions only impact the captives of a government, never the government leaders or their favored sponsors. That
66 TWA772LR : Doesn't AI have 77Ls for sale as well? I know and Il-96 couldn't make nonstop Tehran-USA, but could they grab a couple of these and do a one stop in,
67 JAAlbert : You'd think they'd ask for a couple a new planes too.
68 BoeingMerica : Interesting, I'm wondering where I said that line about 'bombing them before they bomb us'... Please show me where I said that.... I'll be checking b
69 Viscount724 : If you're referring to the recent CNN interview, there are many reports saying that the CNN English translation was very poor and he never used the t
70 solarflyer22 : I believe I'm the only resident Iranian-American on ANet having been born in Iran and raised in the USA and traveled there several times. Our languag
71 cheeken : I think you're confusing Iran with North Korea. The one that openly wants to wipe USA and allies off the map with nukes is North Korea. Iran openly s
72 aryonoco : Yeah it wasn't the best translation, the PBS Charlie Rose interview had a much better translation. Funny as Christian Amanpour is Iranian-American he
73 Post contains links and images lightsaber : Then why is Iran concentrating uranium towards weapons grade status when there is no other reason! That virus that destabilized the centrifuges would
74 Post contains images aryonoco : If there is money to be made, why not? Believe me I know I'm being optimistic (I'm having a good day so let me continue ) but if sanctions are lighte
75 Post contains images txjim : I spent a good part of my college career with Iranians (understandably terminated with the Iranian hostage crisis). It would be desirable for relatio
76 lightsaber : You have a point. But I wasn't talking about AA, DL, or UA wanting to go to Iran to make a buck. I was talking about Iran providing the services requ
77 JoeCanuck : The IAEA is constantly inspecting every site containing nuclear material, as is mandated by the NPT. They are allowed to enrich uranium, and no limit
78 Post contains images aryonoco : I was on my way to provide a detailed reply to your post, complete with quotes from IAEA's latest report... but then I realised that this is now comp
79 IR800 : SPs are still in active. They fly regularly to PEK, KUL & BOM. But till they are banned by EU, they are unable to do the IKA-JFK route.
80 okapi : In the past, USA and Iran have had some form of close ties, in the past... However, we all know that business is business and sooner or later, the eco
81 texdravid : Despite all of these Anet fantasies about LAX-Tehran flights and despite the absurd comments how Iran is such a great peaceful country, these flights
83 Surfandsnow : Absolutely! The economic benefit of direct flights may seem nice, but I highly doubt Iran is willing to let a bunch of Americans come in to thoroughl
84 Post contains images n729pa : My dad used to work for Iran Air in the UK from 1978-1992 and they were very good employers actually. I seem to recall the NYC was both ways, because
85 okapi : How true! Our memory is often flushed by the mass media hype. The same could be said about South Africa and its airlines banned from most of the Dark
86 Post contains links Semaex : Please elaborate what else you're implying the US government and its allies should do with Iran. All your rhetorics point at one single solution. I j
87 TK787 : Back to aviation here.... I don't think it is that easy to "Steal" pax back. From what I know, just look at New York-Istanbul route. DL can not make i
88 Post contains links lightsaber : Then why doesn't Iran just allow the inspections? http://www.examiner.com/article/iran-refuses-nuclear-inspections And its *one* buildiing at Parchin
89 Flyingsottsman : Its certinly looks promising, that relations could start to thaw now. It would be good to see IR with either a A345 or 777s in their fleet or the A330
90 BoeingMerica : Your entirely wrong. Just no. North Korea is simply a nuisance, Iran is a real threat in a ticking time bomb part of hand world. The North is afraid
91 airbazar : Well, if they were to get "new" planes, THR-LAX would have to be the lowest common denominator. It would make no sense to get a different plane for e
92 RDH3E : There is a difference. TK and the ME3 can't provide direct service to IKA from the USA. The issue with IST is that TK was dumping their super low far
93 Post contains images LH600 :
94 Semaex : Found a glitch. This is not me you're quoting. It's member okapi in reply 85.
95 TK787 : My point was, IR has a better chance than a US carrier for a nonstop. If it all goes well IR will get a suitable jet ASAP and start a nonstop US rout
96 tymnbalewne : I too am American, and not of Iranian descent but I'd happily go and visit Iran.
97 texdravid : Oh come on! The Soviets were a mature and level-headed world power that understood consequences and also understood that radical tirades promising de
98 Post contains images Semaex : Easy to say that nowadays. Would you have said that 30 years ago? And there is just as much reason to loosen the sanctions. After all, they've not im
99 solarflyer22 : Is that true? Was that above 3.5% or above 20%? I'm of Iranian descent and to make things even more interesting, I actually took a US citizen to Iran
100 dennys : Well. For THR -USA , i shall trust the 4 holers A340-200 or A340-500 .
101 Gr8circle : It did work in the case of the Soviet Union, didn't it? Why be so pessimistic? It all depends on the leaders of the two countries involved......
102 IADLHR : The difference between Iran and the Soviet Union is that all through the Cold War we had diplomatic relations and an embassy and an ambassador etc. e
103 Post contains images lightsaber : The US and the Soviets kept up intense negotiations out of the public eye for decades. Both had an Embassy in each other's nation. While I see demand
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