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Indian Aviation Thread Part 105  
User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2977 posts, RR: 24
Posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 27602 times:

Starting #105 here

Here is an article compiling some statistics of AI's YOY performance:

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...d/articleshow/24056760.cms?curpg=2

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In other news:

* SG, 6E have been granted permission to start IXC - DXB flights

* SG has got permission to fly RUH - LKO, COK - DMM and IXM - DXB


A lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep
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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3237 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 27391 times:

Air Costa failed to start today, they are hopeful of starting ops tomorrow. Bummer about the delay!


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User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 27237 times:

AI switched to B787 on DEL-HKG-ICN route today with VT-ANL.

User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 27136 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 2):
AI switched to B787 on DEL-HKG-ICN route today with VT-ANL.

Thats nice.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 1):
Air Costa failed to start today, they are hopeful of starting ops tomorrow. Bummer about the delay!

Yeah. Seemandhra is burning with discontent and power blackouts and these guys want to start an airline from there??



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User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 26908 times:

Does anyone know for sure if photography by passengers is allowed INSIDE the aircraft (of the cabin) in India / on Indian carriers? Have heard conflicting info on this, and the DGCA circulars don't seem to talk to this -- they talk of photography FROM the aircraft.

In my experience over the years, AI and 9W seem quite relaxed about it on international flights. But have been stopped by KFA, SpiceJet, and the old IC on domestic flights.

Thanks.


User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 26844 times:

It appears Air Costa finally started its service.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWtJchG7ow0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpS5bO94lHw


User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 26634 times:

Did VT-ANL gone tech @SYD? Any details.

User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 26438 times:

Tata SQ JV cleared by the FIPB.

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/bus...apore-airlines-venture_975878.html

Anyone got any ideas on when we can expect them to start, what the fleet might look like, etc? Would SQ be lending them planes a la Scoot, or would they place fresh orders?



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User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 26408 times:

Quoting sturmovik (Reply 7):
Anyone got any ideas on when we can expect them to start, what the fleet might look like, etc? Would SQ be lending them planes a la Scoot

Unlikely SQ since Tata-SIA will not want wide-bodies, at least until they can go international. Perhaps Silkair? Or just procure / lease new aircraft.

In any case, FIPB approval is just one hurdle. May be a long trek ahead yet. Just ask EY-9W or even Air Asia India!


User currently offlinesnehnath From India, joined Apr 2005, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 26340 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 8):
In any case, FIPB approval is just one hurdle. May be a long trek ahead yet. Just ask EY-9W or even Air Asia India!

Interesting you say that. While there are tons of things that need to improve in Civil Aviation in India, I thought the EY-9W deal, the Air Asia India and the Tata-SIA application were actually cleared in good time. Air Asia India will probably fly in 1Q 2014. How much quicker do you want the process to be?


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 26331 times:

Quoting snehnath (Reply 9):
I thought the EY-9W deal, the Air Asia India and the Tata-SIA application were actually cleared in good time. Air Asia India will probably fly in 1Q 2014. How much quicker do you want the process to be?

I dunno, I get the feeling James Hogan and Tony F may disagree.

Sure from the Aviation and Finance ministry and FIPB perspective these were cleared pretty quick, but only to hit other approval delays that have caused their plans to slip repeatedly beyond their target dates, with prospects of them being delayed further due to litigation. Which is why I would not read too much into just FIPB clearance, it is only one hurdle.


User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 26320 times:

Quoting snehnath (Reply 9):
the EY-9W deal

Under review with Supreme Court.

Quoting snehnath (Reply 9):
the Air Asia India and the Tata-SIA

These may not even be legal under current law, law is not clear if 49% foreign investment is allowed in start-ups, currently with High Court, can go to Supreme Court. Amendment to law may be required to allow start-ups with 49% FDI.


User currently offlineblrsea From India, joined May 2005, 1423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 26188 times:

An article on how AI has reduced the flights out of BOM

Mumbai reduced to a non-metro by Air India

Quote:
...
No matter how cynical you are, you will find it hard to change Mumbai's status to that of a non-metro. But on Air India's route map, that is exactly what the city has been reduced to.

The national carrier no longer operates direct flights from the city to destinations like Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Frankfurt, Paris, Tokyo, Osaka, Hong Kong, Chicago, New York, Nairobi, Durban and Dar es Salaam, among others.
...
...
No matter how cynical you are, you will find it hard to change Mumbai's status to that of a non-metro. But on Air India's route map, that is exactly what the city has been reduced to.

The national carrier no longer operates direct flights from the city to destinations like Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, Frankfurt, Paris, Tokyo, Osaka, Hong Kong, Chicago, New York, Nairobi, Durban and Dar es Salaam, among others.
...

It is a shame that AI has let go of BOM. While I don't disagree with DEL becoming the focus city, it sounds sort of stupid to give up on an established hub. They could have built up DEL while maintaining DEL with some smart use of resources, including going in for leases etc.


User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 26081 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 4):
Does anyone know for sure if photography by passengers is allowed INSIDE the aircraft (of the cabin) in India / on Indian carriers? Have heard conflicting info on this, and the DGCA circulars don't seem to talk to this -- they talk of photography FROM the aircraft.

Over the years (and I'm talking like last 25 odd years) I've taken pics inside AI planes on several occasions.......on one occasion, even got the IFS to take a pic of me in my seat......I've taken pics inside the cockpit and never been stopped....


User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 26024 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 4):
Does anyone know for sure if photography by passengers is allowed INSIDE the aircraft (of the cabin) in India / on Indian carriers?

I have written an article on this subject with the links to the respective circulars. However A.net rules prohibit me from posting the link to my site. So please visit and in the search box look up "DGCA rules photography".

Inside the aircraft though, it is a privilege extended by the airline not a right, since it is their property. Shooting from the aircraft, outside, is technically not a prerogative of the crew. That's where the DGCA circulars coming in to play. Shooting standing on the tarmac is not allowed, and for heavens sake do not try taking photos at defence airports like Pune, Jodhpur, Guwahati, Srinagar, Leh, etc.



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User currently offlineAirIndia111 From India, joined Aug 2013, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 25996 times:

Quoting blrsea (Reply 12):
it sounds sort of stupid to give up on an established hub.

What kind of established hub did AI have at BOM? All they had were odd 3 weekly flights to different destinations. And how could they further expand in a slot constrained airport with no room / infrastructure to expand?

As for the routes mentioned in the article:

SIN - Served nonstop from Mumbai as of last month. They had to terminate the nonstop flights since the 2x 330's had to be taken out for Hajj Operations. Besides, the old 320's are being retired, hence there is a shortage of narrow body fleet to serve the existing routes.

KUL - Cancelled since it was loss making. If AI wants to make profits, then they had to drop such routes. AIX still operates to KUL.

NRT / KIX / HKG - All were milk runs via DEL. And they are still operated as such. The only difference is that the BOM-DEL segment is done by a narrowbody international connector flight.

ORD - Was operated as a one stop via CDG / FRA. Still operated as a one stop via DEL.

JFK - Was operated as a one stop via FRA / LHR. Still operated as a one stop via DEL. AI 101 / 102 is a same plane service from BOM to JFK.

EWR - Was operated as a one stop via CDG. Now non-stop to EWR from BOM.

NBO / DAR - As and when AI has more 787's, these routes will be launched from BOM only.

CDG / FRA - AI never managed to serve them with terminator flights. The brief period when FRA had terminator flights, the same were again operated via DEL.


User currently offlineVTORD From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 25925 times:

Posting the article mentioned in Reply 14 here for easy access:

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201...ules-on-taking-photographs-of.html



Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as you like.
User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2891 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 25902 times:

Quoting AirIndia111 (Reply 15):

nice summary !

Slight correction,

BOM-HKG was a 5x terminator service at one point on the 310s, it was removed as it was one of those gifts by PP to Lalajet .
my father has flown it several times

KUL, I don't think it was anyways non stop from BOM.

This Toilet of India article is absolute trash, they have given examples of PEK on AI , when AI does not even operate there

Karan


User currently offlinesankaps From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 25839 times:

Quoting VTORD (Reply 16):
Posting the article mentioned in Reply 14 here for easy access:

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201....html

Thanks very much VTORD and Devesh, much appreciated.


User currently offlinegr8circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 25823 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 17):
This Toilet of India article is absolute trash


Haha 

  


User currently offlineAirIndia111 From India, joined Aug 2013, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 25748 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 6):
Did VT-ANL gone tech @SYD? Any details.

Yes, though the below article mentions MEL, the incident did happen in SYD.

http://www.mumbaimirror.com/mumbai/o...ner-in-Oz/articleshow/24680693.cms


ANH is also grounded in DEL since Monday. They did a test flight over DEL yesterday but it still seems to be grounded.

ANN was operating the SYD-MEL route yesterday and gates were closed on time at 1345. But the aircraft didn't push back till 1700.

ANL operated ATQ-DEL yesterday and went tech. The DEL-BHX leg was then operated by VT-ANK.

ANI went to CCU yesterday (AI 20) and hasn't returned back (another grounding). AI 701 was operated by A321.


User currently offlineBLRAviation From India, joined Feb 2009, 351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 25696 times:

Quoting sankaps (Reply 18):

You are welcome.

Quoting VTORD (Reply 16):
Posting the article mentioned in Reply 14 here for easy access:

http://www.bangaloreaviation.com/201....html

   Thanks very much.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 22, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 25659 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 17):
This Toilet of India article is absolute trash, they have given examples of PEK on AI , when AI does not even operate there

Newspapers need to recruit Aviation correspondents who qualify for the position......



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineDTW2HYD From United States of America, joined Jan 2013, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 25621 times:

Quoting AirIndia111 (Reply 20):

As always thanks for sharing interesting tidbits. There is a pattern emerging with B787 TDR. If you fly to a station with B787 relatively large experienced maintenance staff like DEL/LHR/FRA they will be able to take care. If you are flying to a station which sees one or two B787s a day, most likely you will get stuck. I suppose B787 program is breeding a small group of elite engineers. I want to see what QR will do on DOH-BLR. With AI switching back BLR to A320, AAB may have to change equipment.


User currently offlineAirIndia111 From India, joined Aug 2013, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 25553 times:

Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 23):
If you fly to a station with B787 relatively large experienced maintenance staff like DEL/LHR/FRA

AI has had their 787's stuck for more than 24 hrs. even in CDG and FRA.

Quoting DTW2HYD (Reply 23):
With AI switching back BLR to A320

With the winter schedule kicking in today, BLR is back to 787. Although today's flight was clubbed with the MAA flight due to 787 shortage at DEL.


Today's 787 Update: ANN had to turn back to MEL within an hour after its departure. It is still grounded in MEL. ANI flew back to DEL from CCU. ANI and ANH are grounded in DEL.


25 Post contains images VTORD :
26 comorin : Was this the 'semi-emergency' AI 787 that had to return due to flaperon problems? There is mention of it on avherald.
27 AirIndia111 : Yes, its the same flight.
28 Post contains links Cricket : I guess you folks might have read this by now, talks of an harrowing experience for an Indian passenger on AF. I will agree that there is apathy by AF
29 388crazy : Hi, I did a search on google but couldn't find an answer. Is Vijayawada Airport and Gannavaram Airport the same Airport? Thanks
30 15a : Yes
31 DTW2HYD : Both are same. Vijayawada is the closest city and Gannavaram is the name of place where the airport is located which serves Vijayawada.
32 388crazy : Thanks, I was thinking that maybe there were 2 airports serving Vijayawada which didn't make sense to me as VGA is very small.
33 AirIndia : Yes, this story is all over facebook timeline..... I noticed this in Paris at the Eiffel Tower entrance. A bus full of Indians (on a guided tour) wer
34 BigTom : Well nobody likes to hear the world racism, but it's there hidden under a 'polite' veneer in many parts of the world. There have been some tales of L
35 VTORD : I have not had such a harrowing experience. Not even close nor do I know anybody who has. But about 2 years ago I was flying BOM-ORD via CDG and about
36 Nimish : I posted this on my FB wall and on AI as well...
37 aarbee : Could you please post a pointer. Not aware about this. Nice job by UA. What about the DXB-BLR bp? R
38 Nimish : Got off at DXB, passed security, there was an EK ticket counter right there, stood in the queue, and walked away with the boarding tag and my bags tr
39 Karan69 : Nimish, I guess you were looked well after because of your 1K status with UA." Any idea how passengers who dint have status were looked after. Karan
40 Post contains links OOSGB : It's seems that the BRU stays as 9W expressed its "long-term commitment" to BRU. Any thoughts? http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...waits-panel-nod/
41 Post contains links and images Nimish : On this flight - I was actually flying with no status on UA - just a regular "entry-level" member. I was earning miles on UA, and was not a status ho
42 DTW2HYD : That is non-answer answer. EY is in lot of trouble by meddling with 9W management before deal is closed. Moving from BRU to AMS is one of those. Now
43 Post contains links buck3y3nut : I posted it here on A.net. Check the thread out. One Night In Paris - Air France Complaint Blog... (by buck3y3nut Oct 29 2013 in Aviation Polls)
44 anshuk : Haven't followed these threads in quite a while now, hope to be back and regular now! Flew out of BLR during the day for the first time in ageeees thi
45 Karan69 : Interesting...thanks for sharing that Karan
46 Karan69 : I Dont think i had posted this earlier here, But VT-ALA, VH-ALB, VT-ALC, VT-ALF and VT-ALG are the designated aircrafts to go to EY Karan
47 Post contains images AirIndia111 : Noticed something on the DEL Airport Website today. It seems that AI had plans to launch Moscow in the Winter 2013 schedule and the schedules had been
48 ojas : Yes, Moscow ; Rome - Milan; and Manchester should be announced in the coming months.
49 DTW2HYD : I think ANK loosing panel and quite a few going tech is quick succession dampened AI plans to expand. I think they need quick deliveries. AI is sched
50 Post contains links BLRAviation : Looks like one more incident with the AI 787 at MEL. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...nding/story-e6frg95x-1226753199398 Also surprised at the p
51 goacom : Now that is the real story or rather the same old story of AI flying at low load factors on its prestige international routes.
52 AirIndia111 : We need to keep in mind that this flight left Delhi on Sunday, and it was Diwali that day. Not many people would fly from India to Oz on Diwali, espec
53 Karan69 : Independent sources confirm that there were 174 passengers on board, seems to be a media screw up Karan
54 DTW2HYD : Talking about media screw up, report almost suggests DEL-MEL pax were sent back to DEL on other flights. Fails to mention MEL-SYD,MEL-SYD-DEL and SYD
55 Post contains links Nimish : Crossposting my post from AI From; http://www.firstpost.com/business/an...deal-anti-competitive-1218347.html More BS overall - esp. given how AI held
56 lightsaber : One hopes it goes though. If not, it will send a clear message on investment in India... In particular with all that happened with Vodaphone. Lightsa
57 Post contains links AirIndia : http://www.financialexpress.com/news...rrot-to-secure-cheaper-lng/1194171 So its not QR thats offering sops for seats but Indian offering seats for ch
58 Post contains links and images lightsaber : Interesting link. I wonder how 'cheap' the LNG will really be. Wow, increase seats to 72,600 from a mere 24,800. That is a dramatic change. I wonder
59 Post contains images HAWK21M : If Pax have a choice...this behaviour by Airlines will not continue for long.......Its all about Payload....
60 Post contains links sankaps : FAA plans December audit after finding 33 deficiencies in DGCA Shortcomings found in US aviation regulator’s Sep audit increase chance of downgrade
61 lightsaber : I'd like to know more as livemint has not been my favorite link. Any other sources? Lightsaber
62 Post contains links BLRAviation : Now someone, somewhere has decided to play it tough with the FAA. Not the best course of action, but India must do what's in her interest. However, fo
63 CaliAtenza : I see the old attitude of us Indians rears its ugly head again; shift the blame on to the other party...and not address potential problems.
64 Post contains links DTW2HYD : I think livemint is trying to spin story from both ends. Entire A-list of USA aviation industry was entertaining India for three days October 29-31 i
65 sankaps : There is a difference between commercial interest and opportunities and safety oversight, and they should be at arms length for good reason. The exis
66 DTW2HYD : I am not denying DGCA's deficiencies or possible FAA downgrade. I am not certain a low level Indian official will give such warning to FAA at a summi
67 BLRAviation : I don't know who you are referring to when you say "us Indians"? But other things aside, personally I believe this article by Tarun is damaging and i
68 HAWK21M : Wouldn't the best way forward by DGCA would be to address these 33 deficiencies raised by FAA.
69 Post contains links Karan69 : HU is looking at starting PEK-BOM-NBO flights http://www.caac.gov.cn/C1/201312/t20131202_59754.html Google translate: To promote the development of Ch
70 Karan69 : It seems Air India has issued a tender to fix the cannibalised 777 LR VT-ALH "Maharashtra" Karan
71 HAWK21M : Whats the update on Air Asia India and the Tata-SIA JV deals.
72 golfradio : Whoa... going by the last pictures I saw of that frame, it has to be a very expensive proposition, and why restore a frame that does not fit in the f
73 Post contains links Karan69 : You can see the true extent of the damage through this pdf by AI http://mmd.airindia.co.in/aimmd/tend...%20Fan%20Cowl%20Damage%20Photo.pdf Agree, but
74 DTW2HYD : May be Iran is a potential buyer!!! EY may need two more to start third ULH route, third one is questionable, it has to use on a short/medium route o
75 lightsaber : I too am confused by this. From what I've seen, that airframe would cost more to repair than is worth it. I hope to be proven wrong. Lightsaber
76 golfradio : Does any one have any idea if AI has any plans to come back to YYZ? I would love a YYZ - BOM direct service. I believe it should be doable yield wise
77 Karan69 : YYZ BOM will not happen, The way AI 787 are configured it won't be able to do it feasibly There is a proposal to start del LHR YYZ on the 77W
78 Post contains links DTW2HYD : Couple of interesting stories from India. The Supreme Court today made it clear that it would quash the Jet-Etihad Airways deal if there are any irreg
79 HAWK21M : Whats the date for setting up CAA to replace DGCA.
80 Post contains links lightsaber : That would probably mean the end of 9W with their accelerating pace of losses: lAll these resulted in record losses - of Rs 894 crore for Jet Airways
81 Karan69 : Various separate sources said this to me , but still till they materialize take it as a rumor . Jet will operate JFK ORD EWR via AUH from May Aug and
82 Nimish : Cool - some signs of the Jetihad deal taking shape!
83 VTORD : Any idea as to what the origin cities are? Or will this be under the umbrella of the 23 cities Jetihad said it intends to connect on India-AUH?
84 Karan69 : Most likely DEL BOM BLR Karan
85 golfradio : So is that the only route left via BRU? DEL - EWR via AUH is about 550 nm longer compared to BRU. That will add almost an hour and a half.
86 Karan69 : Wont matter, the connection possibilities via AUH far outweigh the 1 hour additional time difference For the time being, Yes BRU EWR will continuoe f
87 747megatop : Has someone done an analysis on why airlines tend to fail in India? It is about time that someone does a detailed analysis if it hasn't been done alr
88 747megatop : On what basis is 9W choosing cities to operate in USA? Any chance of seeing 9W metal in let's say LAX & SFO?
89 Turkish777X : Hello, Turkish media is reporting that Turkish Airlines signed a deal with Jet Airways on the lease of 3 A332s for 6 years. Does anybody know which fr
90 VTORD : Sure would like to know.....Just wondering about their BOM-PVG-SFO flight that got discontinued, would it have worked better from BLR instead of BOM?
91 Post contains images 747megatop : don't know and highly doubt it. If that were the case then UA should have jumped on the route and offered SFO-BLR non stop; after all SFO is a * A/UA
92 sankaps : There may be many contributing factors such as high taxes and ATF, high airport fees, etc, but the bottom line is lack of professional management and
93 gr8circle : So the AMS hub is not going to happen?
94 Karan69 : Not in the near future atleast, especially since EY has not even begun their LAX service, if they do well on that we might see a second flight Not in
95 ojas : EY will start Jaipur from 01APR EY 208 AUH - JAI 2300 0345+1 EY 207 JAI - AUH 0445 0645 Aircraft: A320 It will take the flight count to 112 weekly fli
96 Vimanav : Ojas - when are u going to post something like this for EK and FZ??? Brgds Vimanav
97 ojas : I'm eagerly awaiting for such news for the past one year!!!
98 Post contains links 747megatop : Folks, there is discussion on another thread about A 380 ops about to be allowed in India - A380 To Fly Into India (by KarelXWB Dec 18 2013 in Civil A
99 Karan69 : Not with the current terminal, however the new terminal which partially opens on 15th Jan, does have 380 gates and Code F taxiways leading to it, so
100 BLRAviation : Jet has always ignored Bangalore. Considering the current President Hari Marar is ex-Jet and the ex-Head of Airline Marketing for the airport, Girish
101 sturmovik : I don't know the date, but it is not something I'm looking forward to. I suspect it'll be a case of old wine in a new bottle, with the same people an
102 sturmovik : Btw, hearing reports on facebook that an SQ A380 and a 9W 737 made emergency landings in DEL in separate incidents. Anyone know what's going on?
103 BLRAviation : The main reason for creating the CAA is to get it out from under the Ministry of Civil Aviation. As a government department / directorate the funding
104 BLRAviation : Karan, I understand AUH-JFK AUH-EWR. However, AUH-ORD is about the same distance as DEL-JFK and the Jet 77Ws are known to be extra heavy thanks to th
105 Rishul93 : Sir, its not about ignoring BLR, when Jet was actually pushing hard with International Expansion, Kingfisher was already sitting pretty with with a b
106 Rishul93 : Back when this discussion was done, 9W was planning BOM-JFK non-stop and it was said they cannot make that route work without taking a hit, i'm fairl
107 Karan69 : Devesh, your right the aircrafts will take a slight hit owing to 9Ws rather heavy F class, but do realise they can distribute any revenue cargo betwe
108 Post contains links Rishul93 : http://thepeninsulaqatar.com/news/qa...o-more-flights-to-india-from-qatar from this article - 9W will go double daily on BOM-DOH and will start CCJ-DO
109 HAWK21M : This will be a good option for those in the industry too, considering on par salary scales.
110 Post contains links Nimish : Air India A320 Skids Off Runway And Damages Wing - Jaipur (by jayeshrulz Jan 6 2014 in Civil Aviation) Some serious damage, we're just lucky that ther
111 Post contains links sturmovik : Tata-SIA to lease A320s, apparently. http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/0...ta-exclusive-idUKBREA0804E20140109
112 DTW2HYD : Looks like Mumbai new terminal is ready. Are there any benefits for transit pax.
113 Post contains images kingfisherfly : Seems like the new terminal 2 of Mumbai airport has been inaugurated officially today after years of missing targets. My last transit through BOM was
114 Post contains links ojas : 9W Announces Schedule For BOM - JNB (by ojas Feb 15 2010 in Civil Aviation) http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ral_aviation/print.main?id=4937872
115 golfradio : From the pictures on various media outlets, T2 looks impressvie. I liked the concept of the art walk and the murals seen in one of the photos is beaut
116 Rishul93 : how on gods green earth did I miss those!
117 HAWK21M : Poor visability.More serious was when ATC was not responding to a call by the following Spice B737 landing on the same runway preoccupied by the dama
118 Rishul93 : WEF, 30th March 2014, 9W 12/11 BOM-SIN is downgauged to a 737 service. Interesting-ly, both return flights from SIN are evening flighs, at 1905 and 20
119 Karan69 : They better re time the flights makes no sense to park a 737 for 12 hours Unless they plan to use them for a new BLR or ccu sin service Karan
120 JOYA380B747 : I guess this may be to make way for the BOM-CDG service, for which they needed the widebodies.
121 golfradio : Just a itch that I wanted to scratch and it's Friday, so what the heck... As far as I know DGCA registrations are not alphanumeric and the pattern is
122 Post contains images 747megatop : I have a simple proposal to fix that; change the registration scheme to something like VT14-XXX for example; the 14 signifying the year 2014. This wo
123 ojas : BOM inaugurates its new terminal. While meant for AI, the inaugural landing was EK 506 DXB - BOM. The inaugural departure was 9W 118 BOM - LHR.
124 Post contains links himmat01 : Old registrations can be recycled. If you look at the available registrations, you will observe that these have been used earlier and we all have flo
125 Post contains links 388crazy : I thought this should be mentioned here, Sorry if it is not relevant. Air Costa has ordered 50 Embraer E2 Jets with another 50 options. Link: http://w
126 BLRAviation : Will the airline be alive in 2018 to take delivery of this order? Where are they going to fund it from?
127 BLRAviation : Actually total registrations marks possible will be 26x26x26 = 17576. At the end of the DGCA document Himmat posted "Total no of available marks = 13
128 hawk21m : Where is the $$$ going to come from.....
129 Post contains links BOMRPR : Can anyone confirm if this flight actually took off today? http://www.gulf-times.com/india/185/...ervices-to-be-launched-from-mumbai
130 Post contains links and images golfradio : Oops ... I don't know how I bungled a simple P&C problem. I was looking at some AI 788 photos and noticed that the engine nacelles have a differe
131 BLRAviation : Does anyone have more inside information on the United 777 that was grounded in Mumbai by the DGCA for a faulty engine cover or something like that?
132 gr8circle : I think AI publicly announced that the centaur would be dropped when the current livery was introduced.....
133 mk777 : 1. it would be great if someone could compile a list of the routes served by AI's B788. I believe AI has 12 frames active or is it 13? 2. When does th
134 golfradio : ATQ - DEL BOM - DEL CCU - DEL DEL - BHX DEL - BLR DEL - CDG DEL - DXB DEL - FRA DEL - HKG DEL - LHR DEL - SYD - MEL DEL - PVG DEL - NRT HKG - KIX HKG
135 kingfisherfly : DEL - MAA - DEL has been withdrawn from early february IIRC. But the news here is, BA will start B787 between LHR to MAA daily from october 26 2014.
136 hawk21m : Rectified by a 8 man team and departed.......
137 DTW2HYD : Ferried to HKG on 3/28, still at HKG.
138 laxdesi : I was in MAA last week and boarded my flight back to LAX(via HKG) through the new international terminal. There is an elevated road that takes you to
139 colts001 : BA is going to fly daily from the current 6 times a week so the net reduction will be 140 seats/week which is not much.
140 gr8circle : I recently flew on the BA 787 from YYZ-LHR (my first flight on a 787)......I loved the plane, but BA's seats are terrible......very uncomfortable fli
141 Post contains links BLRAviation : With the exception of the two Japanese carriers all other airlines including BA, QR, AI, etc. have gone with the 9 abreast seating and this reduces s
142 BLRAviation : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Nm19O1iW0 This is a video of the IndiGo fire at KTM. I seek clarification from safety or flight ops personnel. 1. If
143 Post contains links BLRAviation : I wonder if anyone has read this interview of Tim Clark of EK on the Indian aviation scene. Some hard hitting statements. http://economictimes.indiati
144 AirIndia : Frustration is no longer hidden
145 sturmovik : I would've thought the same. However, seeing the general chaos on the ramp with ground personnel crowding around the MLG on fire, I can imagine there
146 Post contains links and images Nimish : AI continues to amaze - it's busy cannibalizing one of the remaining 77Ls - seems like it's in a horrible state at the moment . http://www.bangaloreav
147 BLRAviation : Not just "one of the" ...... AI is cannibalising its NEWEST 77L VT-ALH. Even in regular industry, one does not cannibalise the newest machines for th
148 AirIndia : So off the 8 LRs, 2 have already gone and 1 is cannibalised. Leaving 5. Off these 3 more go to EY. Any ideas which ones are going and what does AI int
149 theaviator380 : Lol..Air Costa captain in that youtube clip looks like Amitabh Bacchan's body double !
150 Rishul93 : 9W will place their code on AF flights to the following destinations. MRS/LYS/NCE/BHX/MAN/BRU/HAM/BCN/DUB/TLS/PRG/NCL/MAD, from CDG, connecting both w
151 Rishul93 : 9W will place their code on AF flights to the following destinations. MRS/LYS/NCE/BHX/MAN/BRU/HAM/BCN/DUB/TLS/PRG/NCL/MAD, from CDG, connecting both w
152 DTW2HYD : Would Air Costa benefit from AAI's new low cost airport policy and being HQed in VGA would it also benefit from special category status like no excise
153 BLRAviation : The answers are on Bangalore Aviation. VT-ALA through ALE. Look through the recent articles about delivery to Etihad. There are photos too of the LRs
154 BLRAviation : VT-ALB is also delivered. So two more to go. ALD and ALE.
155 hawk21m : What about maintenance....whose handling this. Is it true that Quikjet is restarting with FedEx and B757s BLR based.[Edited 2014-04-03 03:17:26]
156 DTW2HYD : May be Air Works for now, assuming they have some experience on Embraer Business Jets. They will have their own MRO at VGA by next year. P&W anno
157 BLRAviation : Friends a quick question. How to we keep this "Indian Aviation" thread alive, if we are not posting? Any thoughts and suggestions?
158 lightsaber : That is an interesting development. Any KL code sharing? EY was rumored to be leaning towards Skyteam... this is in line... Lightsaber
159 comorin : Some friends of mine are planning an EWR-MAS-CCU-DEL-BOM-EWR trip, and I wonder if the 30-day unlimited India passes are still around or have they evo
160 BLRAviation : Jet used to have a four coupon deal for a fixed price, but I do not think it is around any more. Considering you are planning just metro travel MAA-C
161 comorin : Thank you kindly for your post, I will pass that along. (thumbsup} btw, hope you are enjoying the wonderful hassle-free ride to KIA now that the AIrp
162 DTW2HYD : Will there be any policy changes in Indian Aviation with new government? Will they promote hubs (vs) current policy of curtailing hub growth? In one o
163 VTORD : I wouldn't hold my breath on new government's ability or inclination. The BJP-NDA alliance has 3 former MoCA appointees with not a particularly stell
164 freqflyer : On the other hand, Ratan Tatas equations with Modi are exceptional (if Modi does indeed become PM) . And Modi is said to cut through red tape as a ma
165 hawk21m : Depends on the Govt......UPA/NDA. I feel the NDA will be more proactive......TATA and Modi should do well... Any news on the SIA A380 first flight at
166 DTW2HYD : Can't they manage with sterile international transit area. Also there were news of visa-on-arrival for entire world (except 8 countries).
167 hawk21m : 9W starting to cut down on staff...... Whats the STA of SIA A380 BOM 1st flight.
168 JOYA380B747 : I was recently going through 9W Airbus a/c types being used on the international sector, and found out that only the four 333s operate on the BOM/DEL-
169 lightsaber : Very interesting. I would love to hear his input on China which has been even more restrictive for EK. And aviation taxes... Lightsaber
170 Post contains links 747megatop : The potential fixes, solutions and strategies to put Indian airports on a hub growth path have been dicussed at length on a.net. I had also written n
171 Post contains links BLRAviation : Yes they have. Jet lost a boatload of cash with the aircraft just sitting on the ground in DEL. I took this photo during an airside at DEL http://www
172 Post contains images JOYA380B747 : That almost seems like a terminal at peak hour (minus the ground vehicles). What will Jet do with the leased-to-TK 77Ws that will come back to the pa
173 Karan69 : Will probably be leased to EY to start a second daily ORD flight Karan
174 Post contains links and images Heavierthanair : G'day http://atwonline.com/airframes/air-india-plans-expand-a320-fleet Air India is looking for dry lease bids for a mix of up to 14 used and new CFM
175 hawk21m : Whats the scheduled launch date of Air asiaindia and TATA/SIA JV
176 DIJKKIJK : Why don't they sell those aircraft, instead of keeping them on the ground and losing money?
177 hawk21m : These are flying Aircraft, arn't they.....[Edited 2014-04-28 02:02:29]
178 Post contains images JOYA380B747 : I was going through the current 9W fleet status - After the return of two 77Ws from TK, they now have 8 active trip 7s. But currently there are only 5
179 VTORD : I was looking for tickets in the summer / fall and TK website shows IST-BOM TK720/721 is "Operated by 9W for Turkish Airlines". So that should accoun
180 lightsaber : Thank you for that report. Some is clear, some is self contradictory (reduce taxes and then much later on note must maintain (implied increase) servi
181 dtw2hyd : Indian media outlet NDTV is reporting(app alert) AirAsia India got AOP.
182 BLRAviation : AirAsia India has got the AOP. However I think Tony and team and waiting for the election results. The BJP looks set to win and Swamy will be powerfu
183 dtw2hyd : Thank You. It would be interesting to see future developments. Western Think-tanks expect BJP to reverse lot of decisions made by previous administra
184 JOYA380B747 : Since the 2014 General elections are almost at its end, I was hoping if someone would enlighten us about what we can expect as changes to Indian aviat
185 Post contains images hawk21m : All the more need to startflying before the new govt is in place I dont think there would be much change but the NDA seems pro industry.
186 hawk21m : Soon we'll know who the new MOCA is.......
187 golfradio : Rudy will probably come back.
188 Post contains images CDG : Welcome to Paris CDG 9W! Here's the water salute, hope they will do well and be here for a long time.
189 VTORD : Most likely possibility. One of the areas that may see a positive push is the airport privatization. Privatization for LKO, GAU, AMD, MAA, CCU and JA
190 Nimish : Thanks for posting the picture - here's hoping 9W manages to make money on this route.
191 Post contains links kingfisherfly : Another windshield crack incident for AI B787 VT-ANK at FRA. Looks like the same aircraft suffered the same issue at MEL as well. The article quotes t
192 BLRAviation : Nothing radical right now. Air travel is still seen as the luxurious domain of the privileged few. The only one decision that is really pending is th
193 Post contains images CDG : My pleasure! The France - India traffic is mostly AF & EK i hope this codesharing of 23 cities will bring some balance to the market. It is very
194 kingfisherfly : With Modi set to become the new Prime Minister of India, any guess on who would be the next aviation minister ?? What things would you think is necess
195 747megatop : Indian carriers are notorious for guest appearances at locations around the world i guess. Barring LHR,JFK,EWR they have never put in a consistent ap
196 JOYA380B747 : One way 9W would sustain this quite well would be to start Kangaroo flights sooner than later. If DEL is getting its share of traffic from Australia
197 747megatop : BOM has severe capacity constraints. Can't operate a hub with that. BOM is prone to delays because of the capacity issues and nobody would want to co
198 Post contains images lightsaber : Serious question, how is the Modi election likely to impact indian aviation other than what was noted before: I hope the process of launching new fli
199 hawk21m : The last B732 freighter retires on 20th morning .....VT-BDH......that ends the B732 journey in INDIA. The water cannon salute is a befitting honour pl
200 CaliAtenza : India needs to get the CAT 1 status back ASAP....that's the first thing.
201 JOYA380B747 : Maybe off topic but I've always wanted to ask this, do capacity constraints run through late night-early morning as well? Is there capacity constrain
202 comorin : Here's hoping the Modi government starts the AI privatization ball rolling, Swamy or no Swamy.
203 dtw2hyd : a) Pass CAA bill b) Remove AI real estate and fleet asset montization hurdles. Let AI sell assets at fair market value. c) Approve AI employee buyout
204 EIDAA : Hi all, Can anyone advise the registrations of the two ex-KFR ATRs that are still parked at the old international terminal in DEL (T2)? I have been in
205 Post contains links BLRAviation : Sorry to disappoint you. Modi is very much in favour of PSUs. So expect AI to get more independence but firmly in the hands of the government. http:/
206 BLRAviation : Modi is pro-industry, but he is also pro-PSU with independence and responsibility for results. Will this work with AI though? Also AF and KL have a p
207 dtw2hyd : WOW. This would cause lot of sleepless nights for some a.netters. I hope doling out unlimited money is not on the table. That's not going to fix AI.
208 vvbkumar : With swearing in of Indian PM, just wondering what aircraft will be used by heads of neighboring countries (SAARC) to fly in. Below are at least what
209 Post contains links JOYA380B747 : Indeed what the new Govt will do with AI shall probably be the hottest topic of discussion amongst A.netter for months and months to come as Air Indi
210 Nimish : Maldives PM: AI's 320 (chartered).
211 Post contains links golfradio : Air Asia India to start flying from June 12 and tickets sales to start from Friday. The report does not say about the routes. Is any one planning a fi
212 Post contains images BLRAviation : I would not mind. But where to buy the tickets. Tony's tweet said sales start today but as of this morning no joy on the airasia.com site.
213 JOYA380B747 : What I am amazed about is, there isn't a single shot of the first Air Asia India A320 on a.net or anywhere to be found. Strangely so because it was d
214 Post contains links golfradio : I found one of VT-ATF from the Airbus delivery press release http://www.airbus.com/galleries/photo-gallery/dg/idp/38135-a320-airasia-india/?share=1
215 Post contains images JOYA380B747 : Huge thanks..... looks great.... let the price wars begin
216 dtw2hyd : SQ A380 landed @DEL. Live video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eA6I_dRxXE
217 BLRAviation : We've got exclusive videos of the SQ A380 at DEL water cannon salute and the landing (soon to be added) on our site. Thanks to the airport operators f
218 Gr8Circle : Huh? FRA and CDG (earlier ORL) have been AI stations steadily for the past 40+ years.......without break....
219 747megatop : Considering that it is AI then it's an achievement then. But, the route structure to those stations is also inconsistent isn't it? Take CDG for examp
220 Post contains links dtw2hyd : India to review ASAs. http://www.telegraphindia.com/114060...ss/story_18469506.jsp#.U44PLijRcjY
221 JOYA380B747 : From the link, Since when is the 788 the costliest aircraft?
222 Post contains links dtw2hyd : Indian airports now among world's best service providers as per Airports Council International's (ACI) airport service quality (ASQ) 2013 ratings. In
223 dtw2hyd : Catering truck hit parked AI 77W regn VT-ALT @EWR. Reports suggest significant damage. Pics from twitter and facebook. https://twitter.com/inertiaboy/
224 hawk21m : So finally the SIA A380 landed at Mumbai......Interesting view......
225 lightsaber : Why is there always so much drama with India ASAs? Interesting terms in changing ASAs. It cannot be done unilaterally. But the UAE might be an easy t
226 747megatop : Ha ha, which will probably never happen; which is why the ME3 are quite safe IMO. What the ME3 will have to watch out for is actually TK stealing the
227 Post contains links dtw2hyd : flydubai interested in investing in Indian carrier given good opportunity. http://www.financialexpress.com/news...a-given-good-opportunity/1258783/1
228 Post contains links dtw2hyd : Came across couple of AI tenders for ad media enclosure panels for tray tables and overhead bin printing/installation to enable inflight third party a
229 Post contains links and images vishaljo : My Photo of the SQ A380's arrival at Home Mumbai: View Large View MediumPhoto © Vishal Jolapara - Indian Aviation Photographers Me with the Crew: [Ed
230 Airindia : Nice picture. But where exactly is "me" in the pic....
231 Post contains images lightsaber : I can dream. But as a betting man, I would take the other side... You are probably correct. Unless EY is able to *really* turn around 9W... in which
232 dtw2hyd : There are guidelines to divest from PSU in any sector. 1) Strong private sector. Everyone else is not doing so great. 2) No national security interes
233 Post contains links EK413 : Hi All, This discussion thread is becoming quite long and in some cases slow to load for some users. Please feel free to continue your discussion in P
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