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New Zealand Aviation Part 136  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12172 posts, RR: 17
Posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22962 times:
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Link to old thread New Zealand Aviation Part 135 (by ZKOJH Oct 4 2013 in Civil Aviation)

218 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12172 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 22980 times:
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From the previous thread

Quoting nz2 (Reply 201):
hate to be a no show and be stuck till next week!

Hate to be stuck in HNL till next week?!?! I would love to be stuck till next week! Be a pain on the annual leave as it would require extra time off, but I would seriously consider jumping on a B717 and flying off to another Island

Quoting koruman (Reply 210):
I don't understand the contradiction of Air NZ stating that they are adopting a low-yield leisure configuration for the 789, aimed at China, yet it will include lie-flat Business Premier and Premium Economy cabins

Its known as streamlining their long haul offering to a one service type on every aircraft


User currently offlinegasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 22902 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
Hate to be stuck in HNL till next week?!?! I would love to be stuck till next week! Be a pain on the annual leave as it would require extra time off, but I would seriously consider jumping on a B717 and flying off to another Island

Totally. Yes to being stuck in Hawaii, and yes to a short ride on a 717!

Following on from the scheduling discussion to HNL from the previous thread, I sincerely hope NZ increases 763 frequency, rather than a four weekly 772. Firstly, as this is a route I usually travel Y I prefer the 763 config; and secondly on each of my previous trips to Hawaii the scheduling hasn't been entirely convenient.


User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3642 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 22905 times:

To the guy who said you would be stuck until next week, you could have chosen HA that flies the route 3x a week.

Just saying!  



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User currently offlinenz2 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2007, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 22845 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 1):
Hate to be stuck in HNL till next week?!?! I would love to be stuck till next week! Be a pain on the annual leave as it would require extra time off, but I would seriously consider jumping on a B717 and flying off to another Island

Yep way ahead of you, we had last week in Kona for the Ironman (on HA 717's), this week in Waikiki was the relax part. As I speak I can have just returned from Dukes Canoe Club and the ever present pan flute player tunes are wofing up to our balcony....very nice spot!


User currently offlinekoruman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 22793 times:

At the end of the last thread, ZK-NBT suggested amending the Honolulu timetable as follows:
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Instead of the current
AKL 1100 HNL 2130
HNL 2300 AKL 0600

would you change it to say

AKL 1930 HNL 0600
HNL 0730 AKL 1430
or
AKL 0100 HNL 1130
HNL 2230 AKL 0530

Just at the moment connections from Australia (bar PER) require an overnight stay in AKL. A 1430 arrival to AKL can connect to the afternoon SYD/MEL/BNE flights but its an early start in HNL. But a 1930 departure from AKL gives BNE and MEL pax the option of long haul J and W the whole way, atleast once HNL is a 789.

A 0100 AKL departure connects from the late SYD/MEL/BNE/OOL flights but my proposal is that the aircraft would have a similar return as the current NZ9 to AKL.
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My preferred model would probably be the last of the options - the one with overnight flights both ways and 11 hours on the tarmac, but it's not great utilisation.

When Air Australia opened BNE-HNL I wrote that Brisbane and Melbourne were grievously underserviced and that I thought both could sustain Honolulu flights.

Now Jetstar and Hawaiian are operating them 3x weekly.

My preferred model would be for Air New Zealand to operate a joint venture with Virgin Australia flying what is effectively a triangle route for positioning purposes (but not passenger purposes). It would involve aircraft flying:

AKL-BNE-HNL-AKL-MEL-HNL-AKL-HNL-AKL and then repeating the order.

This would involve far greater utilisation than the double overnight model above, and I don't really think that the AKL stop would be a deterrent to Aussie passengers as at least it wouldn't be overnight like it currently is outbound.

On a day in which AKL-BNE was operated by this plane in the morning, there would also be a later widebody service.


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1225 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22317 times:

Does anyone know what ANZ6002 is about? Operated by ZK-NCL flying over the Philippines.


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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12172 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 22300 times:
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Quoting koruman (Reply 5):
Instead of the current
AKL 1100 HNL 2130
HNL 2300 AKL 0600

would you change it to say

AKL 1930 HNL 0600
HNL 0730 AKL 1430
or
AKL 0100 HNL 1130
HNL 2230 AKL 0530

I remember back in 2006 NZ had on the days HNL operated a double service with a morning and evening departure from HNL. I booked myself on the evening departure from HNL to enable a full day in HNL before flying home. Sadly NZ cancelled all the evening HNL departures and just had the morning departure. One VERY boring flight back it was!

IMHO option 2 or 3 with the AKL departure and option 3 with the HNL departure would be better. To enable better aircraft usage maybe extend the flight onto IAH before the return sector? Yes the IAH loads would be crap but it would enable another USA option and I'm sure the passengers would prefer to clear customs at HNL instead of LAX even if IAH isn't their final destination.


User currently offlinenascarnut From New Zealand, joined Oct 2008, 287 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 22244 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 6):
Does anyone know what ANZ6002 is about? Operated by ZK-NCL flying over the Philippines.

The aircraft is positioning back from XMN after maintenance. It would be nice if if was also repainted while it was up there but have not heard any word on when the fleet will be repainted


User currently offlinezkncj From New Zealand, joined Nov 2005, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 22213 times:

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 8):
The aircraft is positioning back from XMN after maintenance. It would be nice if if was also repainted while it was up there but have not heard any word on when the fleet will be repainted

Surely the the 763 wont get the repaint? with 3x 789 arriving next year there days are numbered.


User currently offlinegasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 22094 times:

Quoting zkncj (Reply 9):
Surely the the 763 wont get the repaint? with 3x 789 arriving next year there days are numbered.

You would think so, but we haven't had a formal announcement of their retirement yet, unless I'm wrong?


User currently offlinenz2 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2007, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 22054 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 7):
I remember back in 2006 NZ had on the days HNL operated a double service with a morning and evening departure from HNL. I booked myself on the evening departure from HNL to enable a full day in HNL before flying home. Sadly NZ cancelled all the evening HNL departures and just had the morning departure. One VERY boring flight back it was!

I found the unscheduled Sat morning flight back quite nice actually, instead of being in no mans land after hotel check out on Friday (though we had planned to beach the afternoon and use friends hotel room to shower prior to airport) and we could relax the whole day and enjoy another nice meal out.

The flight itself was great, they did not sell Y+ seats as premium but we were lucky enough to be seated in that section, due to the 12 hour delay the whole plane recieved full service and plenty of drinks. Another 3 movies now ticked off!


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25292 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (11 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 22027 times:
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A couple more awards for Air NZ, one of which is in China:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU131...r-two-global-travel-accollades.htm

"Air NZ receives another two global travel accollades"

Readers of the prestigious Condé Nast Traveler magazine have named Air New Zealand one of the top five international airlines in the world and in China the airline has been named in the top 10 at the country’s annual China Travel + Leisure awards.


That's quite a shelf of awards it has collected this year, but "accollades"??? Can't the newspapers afford spell-checkers anymore?

mariner



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User currently offlinegasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 21998 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 12):
Readers of the prestigious Condé Nast Traveler

Not quite what I found when looking at the website

http://www.cntraveller.com/awards/re...s-2013/best-airline-airport-cruise

Not that it really matters. It always intrigues me how the mainstream media pick up on voluntary voting based articles from magazine articles, and report it in the same way as they would quality scientific research. In particular the way they present Skytrax results - really nothing more than an internet blog site - as being gospel, really irks me.

I'm reminded of the old researchers' adage "a bunch of anecdotes put together does not equal data".

It's a shame, because we're not talking about something that's particularly difficult to study. Much of the hard product is rigid parametric data, and easy to do valid comparisons on. Passenger satisfaction surveys, if carried out prospectively would have validity too. It's a shame no-one in the travel media can be bothered to do if properly; if done so I suspect NZ would do seriously well.


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25292 posts, RR: 85
Reply 14, posted (11 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 21991 times:
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Quoting gasman (Reply 13):
In particular the way they present Skytrax results - really nothing more than an internet blog site - as being gospel, really irks me.

I take the view that there's no such thing as bad publicity - LOL.

That Air NZ even gets mentioned in these international forums is enough for me. Perhaps we have different perceptions of NZ's status in the world?

mariner



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User currently offlinegasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 21953 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 14):
I take the view that there's no such thing as bad publicity - LOL

Indeed, and taking it one step further there's nothing bad about GOOD publicity even if it stems from bad research. But it could just as easily work the other way. No airline wants to become the new Garuda based on a bogus Skytrax article.

Quoting mariner (Reply 14):
That Air NZ even gets mentioned in these international forums is enough for me. Perhaps we have different perceptions of NZ's status in the world?

Well, I wouldn't have said NZ is so insignificant that we have to get all magnanimously grateful for the fact the media take time out from mentioning the "proper" airlines. I'd summarise it by saying NZ is a small player with regional prominence that punches well above its weight, particularly in the LAX-LHR market.


User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12172 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 21927 times:
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Fire fighters were called to Hawkes Bay Airport this morning after a small fire in the NZ staff room. The fire resulted in the delayed take off of a WLG bound ATR flight

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post...refighters-called-to-airport-blaze

All right....who left the toaster going?


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25292 posts, RR: 85
Reply 17, posted (11 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 21910 times:
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Quoting gasman (Reply 15):
I'd summarise it by saying NZ is a small player with regional prominence that punches well above its weight, particularly in the LAX-LHR market.

  

Well above its weight, I agree.

It's just that I'm not sure ow these things can be organized differently. I don't know of any peer group awards, like the Oscars, say, and even they are somewhat suspect - the peer group tends to have its own favourites, or Fanny Bloggs "deserves" it this year, or Warners spent millions on pressies for the Academy members.

So I tend to regard these awards as valid as any other, and if there are sufficient readers in China, say, who have even heard of Air NZ, I think it's a good thing.

mariner



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12172 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (11 months 1 week ago) and read 21806 times:
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The Government are now stepping into the issues of high regional airfares during a speech at the New Zealand Airports Association conference in Blenheim on Friday.

Competition on the main trunk routes between Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch had kept fares "definitely" in line with CPI cost of living inflation.

But airfares to some regional centres had not been in line with the CPI, he said.

Regional airfares presented a challenge for both regions and airlines, Mr Brownlee said.

There was often not enough demand for more than one carrier on a regional route, so there was limited or no competition and little capacity for it.



http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-e...6926/Cost-of-flights-on-Govt-radar

Another perfect example of someone IMHO who doesn't understand/know/grasp the costs involved of operating regional aircraft but I'll give credit to him for admitting that the high costs of fares doesn't present a challenge for some regions and the airline


User currently offlinegasman From New Zealand, joined Mar 2004, 862 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21712 times:

Quoting 777ER (Reply 18):
Another perfect example of someone IMHO who doesn't understand/know/grasp the costs involved of operating regional aircraft but I'll give credit to him for admitting that the high costs of fares doesn't present a challenge for some regions and the airline

Yes.

The only regional route I fly with any regularity is AKL-WAG. Usually, the fares I get amount to around $250 each way. For that I get an easy check in, 40 minutes in a Beech 1900 (rescuing me from a 6 hour partially horrendous drive); two well trained crew and the benefit of an entire airline infrastructure.

I actually don't consider this to be too bad a deal.


User currently offlineSelandiaBaru From Indonesia, joined Oct 2013, 28 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (11 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 21611 times:

Quoting gasman (Reply 19):
I actually don't consider this to be too bad a deal.

I tend to agree and that is largely what I pay one way for frequent flexible AKL-GIS vv one-way tickets, even better they're often in the Dash 8 which has somewhere to put a carry-on bag. That said pricing doesn't seemed to have changed with the up-gauge of a lot of flights onto the more economical 50 seater.

Where a lot of people seem to find it expensive, as I have had are on multi-city itinerary or flying from one regional airport to another through a golden-triangle hub. For example even to me $654 for a GIS-DUD return seems a bit up there when it's just a Smart Saver fare. Don't get me started on the per sector credit card charges either, that really is wrong.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 39
Reply 21, posted (11 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 21166 times:

Does anyone know why NZ is operating a flight SYD-YVR tomorrow evening?


It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinemotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 21134 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 21):
Does anyone know why NZ is operating a flight SYD-YVR tomorrow evening?

They're not operating it for AC? What equipment are they using, it's a long way?



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6431 posts, RR: 39
Reply 23, posted (11 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 21127 times:

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 22):

On the NZ online timetable, SYD website and flightaware as a 772. Departing in the evening and the AC flight is still scheduled. NZ119 operates AKL-SYD and then it heads up to YVR..



It's all about the destination AND the journey.
User currently offlinePA515 From New Zealand, joined Nov 2007, 883 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (11 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 20913 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 23):
On the NZ online timetable, SYD website and flightaware as a 772. Departing in the evening and the AC flight is still scheduled. NZ119 operates AKL-SYD and then it heads up to YVR..

The Air NZ timetable has NZ 1084 SYD-YVR as 15hrs 10m while AC 034 SYD-YVR is 14hrs 05m, 1hr 05m longer on NZ. Same on Flightaware, NZ 1084 SYD-YVR 14hrs 50m and AC 034 SYD-YVR 13hrs 45m, again 1hr 05m longer on NZ.

An en-route stop for fuel?

PA515


25 NZ1 : It's a special flight to accomodate a very large tour group. Not a charter, just a one off flight. NZ1
26 sunrisevalley : Flightaware now show it at 13hrs 39 min which is right inside the typical range of times for AC34. Typical airways distance is ~ 7000nm but the fligh
27 Post contains links texan : Seems that a Waikato Aero Club aircraft declared an emergency on take off and collided with a parked plane off the side of the runway in HLZ. http://w
28 Post contains links and images zkojq : [/url] ZK-TLA Anyone know what's up with this? Flew quite low overhead not so long ago. Thanks.
29 NZ107 : Did a similar thing a week or so ago.. Touch and gos at Whenuapai must be pretty fun though!
30 zkncj : Would say its a test flight, its in the hangar for a while.
31 BonzoLab : Hi all. 8th AT6 MVG (option) has been picked up and scheduled for delivery June 2015. Three AT6s due now in 2015. Cheers
32 sunrisevalley : What is the connection between three new AT6's in 2015 and New Zealand ?
33 azzazzazza : Are they skipping a letter in the rego's? Would've thought the 8th would be MVH... The fact that those three AT6's are going to Air New Zealand?
34 777ER : NZ have taken up another ATR72-600 option and delivery of this option will be in 2015, as well as the other planned two deliveries. Presume the rego
35 TheLifehouse : ZK-OXC (currently D-AXAU) has been spotted at Hamburg in the new livery. From the photos uploaded it looks like the koru is slightly thicker and the f
36 Post contains images sunrisevalley : Thanks for the enlightenment. I know AT6's as modern versions of the Harvard primary trainer. I wondered if NZ was starting a flying school. &nbs
37 aerokiwi : Oh good, that should make it about the 13th livery variation on the fleet. Branding success!
38 777ER : Talking of the 1900 fleet, any due for retirement over the next 12 months? Any other routes being considered for a 1900D to Q300 and Q300 to ATR upgr
39 nascarnut : Good chance the remaining B1900 operating AKL-TRG and AKL-KKE may go to Q300. Remove the 1000 and 1100 AKL-TRG B1900 and replace with single Q300. Li
40 nascarnut : Some aircraft changes happen on the 28th for the summer. CZ swith from 332 to 787 while KE do the usual 777 to 744 swap. Beginning of the increased sc
41 PA515 : The 8th ATR72-600 ordered will be the 7th delivered and become MVG. One of the original seven ordered is due for delivery in 2016, so that will be th
42 aerokiwi : I'm fairly certain if a paintshop screws up, a customer airline can demand they redo it. Or even ensure quality control to stop screwups from happeni
43 Post contains links nirvarma : So this is the first scheduled service for the 787 into AKL? Also it looks like KE are sending a 77W today instead of a 744.
44 NZ107 : Sure is. To be honest, these should all be grouped into one.. Having different coloured nacelles is not really much of an issue and I think the koru
45 zkncj : NZ isn't know for following *A rules anyway, so I'm likely safe saying that wont be painting another one. After all it did take them around 7 years t
46 777ER : The LOTR, All Black and star livery are special liveries, so these can hardly be counted. If its time to get picky then maybe look also at JQs livery
47 Post contains links zkojq : ZK-OKC has been doing charters for the Singapore Armed Forces. http://i.imgur.com/JYLaxsV.png Thanks. Was totally oblivious to the touch and gos. Migh
48 nirvarma : Looks like this the first long haul flight for this particular 787 (B-2727). Just saw it fly overhead heading towards the harbour bridge and the city
49 Post contains images aerokiwi : I'll give you the LOTR livery. The Star one too. But no way for the Crazy About Rugby. The application is across, what, 7-8 aircraft? A sizable part
50 777ER : I count 4x aircraft. 1x 77W, 2x 320 and 1x 1900D Are you saying that the NZ marketing peeps aren't professional? Customers know an airline when they
51 SelandiaBaru : Totally agree on that. I think it shows overall the confusion of the airline and not really knowing what they want to be. Market experimentation is a
52 Post contains images gasman : Why do you ask the question as if such an utterance is akin to swearing in church? Few of us would brand from a distance any stranger or group as une
53 777ER : How are they trying to be "all things to all people" in regards to their livery? Sure that can be said for the annoying short haul Tasman/Pacific off
54 gytr31 : There is also one of the new 600 series ATR's painted up along with three 1900's in the black scheme, so 7 aircraft in total I believe.
55 Post contains links and images NZ107 : Nope, there are at least 2 B1900Ds in the All Blacks livery. Indeed, it looked spectacular. So that made for 2 firsts for AKL this weekend; the first
56 777ER : Forgot about that one. 2 1900Ds? I thought they only had one painted with the other two planned put on hold?
57 NZ107 : ZK-EAG and EAK. Not gonna bother with photos as they're hidden among thousands of plane photos over the last few months.
58 sunrisevalley : Will this be a regular service. If so what frequency. Anyone know what its inbound and outbound stops were?
59 SelandiaBaru : I think the walkback after the initial 'black tail' livery was introduced was informative. There was disquiet amongst both the public and the staff a
60 aerokiwi : I can only go by what I, a humble yet oddly alluring member of the great unwashed (aka the "general public") sees - the livery being it, really. And
61 777ER : Yes when the black tail was introduced it was ugly and went way beyond what New Zealand means as a country. How does black represent our country? The
62 Post contains images NZ107 : Nope, one off to bring some helicopters down, supposedly for oil exploration. Came in from SYD and departed for HKG, as I think the flight usually do
63 Post contains images nirvarma : Excellent pictures BTW, that FX MD11 in the background seems to be 'stuck' in AKL since it's arrival on sunday evening. Anyone know what the situatio
64 NZ107 : Went tech, now I see it about half an hr out of AKL on its way to SYD on FR.
65 Post contains links azzazzazza : Anyone know whats happening with ZK-SUH at CHC today? Appears to be doing circuits on FlightAware and FlightRadar..... Odd as the 747's hardly ever go
66 NZ107 : Flight crew training for NH; it's down there for a week. Strange enough as it is, they just sent their Pokemon jet to the scrapyard.. Surely they cou
67 nzrich : Quite regularly see NH crew in CHC
68 aerokiwi : Well true. I guess it's just the GE engines on the 772 that we don't get much/any of in New Zealand. Love the GEs on those birds, purely from an aest
69 Post contains links and images gasman : GE have always done aesthetics far better than RR. I remember I was disappointed in the 742 days to see RR engines on our birds - horrible small bulb
70 NZ107 : Yeah, exactly. EK only operated the 77L to AKL for maybe 3 months while they waited for another A380 to take the flight to daily. And since then, we'
71 Post contains images aerokiwi : I always loved the GEs on the 767, 744s and MD11s. Stubby engines always looked off to me, hence my dislike (of the look of) the RB211s and the PW400
72 Post contains images NZ107 : Only the 77W and 77L/F are all GE.. NZ's 77Es have Trents, to name one without GEs (in fact, a lot of 772/77E/773 models don't have GE engines). But
73 Post contains images gasman : As well as the unfinished look with panels everywhere giving them the look of something cobbled together in a high school metalwork class...... talki
74 nirvarma : Anyone able to fill us in on Uzbekistan Airways 763 (VP-BUE) that arrived from KUL into CHC a couple of days ago? Was it here for maintenance or some
75 nascarnut : Charter to swap out deep sea fishing crews. The operate service every few months. Aircraft left today as UZ3512 to KUL. Will return on the 1st Nov at
76 aerorobnz : The 2 NH 744 machines at TUP are already well on the way to being broken up - Pokemon jet already engines off and being gutted after just a few days.
77 Post contains images aerokiwi : Interesting, I didn't know this. I wonder what drove the selection for the 744s. Probably the experience with RR and existing maintenance capabilitie
78 CHCalfonzo : Does anyone know what the series of NZ A320 CHC-VLI-CHC flights over the past week have been in aid of? I think I've seen about 2 return flights so fa
79 NZ107 : And another thing I learnt this week was that NZ was really close to buying A346s... Imagine how different NZ would be if they had them flying around
80 Post contains links 777ER : Runway extension needed for new Masterton service A replacement air service for the soon to be axed Air New Zealand link between Masterton and Aucklan
81 777ER : Wouldn't be surprised if the A346 was offered with a A330/350 deal. A330 replacement for the B763s till the A350s arrive. IMHO an A346 fleet would be
82 NZ107 : This was before the 787 was offered so there'd have been no mention of a thing called the A350 back then.
83 cchan : If NZ ordered the 343 instead of the 77E, then the 346 would have a better chance. It doesn't make much sense to have 77E and 346. If NZ has both 343
84 NZ107 : NZ may have well ordered the A345/6 instead of the 77E, rather than have both the 343 and 346.
85 sunrisevalley : The A346's entered service about 2005 , NZ had 744's at least 10 years before that . So my question is were they proposed as a 744 replacement ( if s
86 NZ107 : Probably a bit of a combination between that and growth, like what the 77Es provided - as they obviously wouldn't have bought both.
87 NZ747 : Did you manage to get any pics that you can share?
88 Post contains links keen2fly : "Auckland's $2.4 billion airport of the future" http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11150108 Sort of just digs up wha
89 kiwiinoz : The rail link is an interesting one as the trip to Auckland airport is such a drag. How many passengers make the rail linkk viable I wonder?
90 Post contains links 777ER : Now that the FAA have approved gate to gate electronic use of Ipads, Ipods, note books and digital readers, New Zealand's CAA is now looking at allowi
91 Post contains links NZ107 : Interesting. I just wish they started already; especially on expanding the new international pier. http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webconte...t/document/
92 Post contains images mariner : I liked that map - LOL - and the page headed Ambition 2020 is fun too, because it says they plan to grow to 4 million arrivals by 2020. I thought we'
93 HLZCPH : VS had a factory fresh A346 on display when I was at the Farnborough Airshow back in 2002, it was so big close up! Apparently Qantas did the same wit
94 NZ107 : What's happening at AKL? Planes circling, recue equipment on the runway.. QF 143 diverting to HLZ.[Edited 2013-11-01 19:29:29]
95 aerorobnz : Yes I took a few of most of the stuff there. However im away still so maybe not until I get back to NZ
96 Post contains links Glasgow : http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11150564
97 keen2fly : Me too, I really like the plan, but for so many years it has been just that. The second runway was tantalysingly close, then wham, off, just like tha
98 Post contains images zkojq : Peter Jackson has a new Gulfstream G650. This will be his third one, after a G450 and a G550. As ever, it is registered ZK-KFB. Nice plane. Sounds exp
99 Unclekoru : It was a decision between the A346 or the 77W for the 744 replacement wan't it? There's a very large A340-600 model on display at the old Fonterra bu
100 sunrisevalley : O.k. this jogs my memory. I believe this was part of the 77E and 787 decision when NZ took out options ( was it) on the 77W no doubt at a very good p
101 Post contains images Palmyboy12 : Pictures please? Pretty pretty please with a double cherry and all the trimmings on top? *licking my lips in anticipation*
102 NZ747 : Cheers mate. Would be interesting seeing FJL on death row. I spent some time inside her just before she went to TUP. I was the only one on the aircra
103 Post contains links and images zkojq : Oops yes. Here is a photo of it being towed off the Runway. http://www.flickr.com/photos/zk-ngj/10621825246/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/paullooby/4
104 Unclekoru : Yes that's how I remember it too. Nice photo.
105 ZK-NBT : I very much doubt that NZ would have considered seriously the A346 as a 744 replacement once they had 77Es in the fleet. Most likely the 346 was bein
106 Post contains images HLZCPH : Ok, saw in the distance yesterday a white and red jet heading north on a climb power setting. Must have been QF 143 heading back to AKL. The noise of
107 Unclekoru : You could well be correct, my recollection on this subject is not very clear. In fact the more I think about it, the more I suspect my memory is wron
108 Post contains links NZ107 : http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/cook-is...d-opened-up-other-airlines-5689938 So the RAR/Cook Islands issue is up for debate again.. And the Cook Islands
109 aerorobnz : I'm gonna say probably NZ/VA/UA/HA are the most likely airlines, QF don't have the aircraft, nor I believe the inclination or they would already fly
110 Post contains links NZ107 : This article came out yesterday too: http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=250417 So if that was the case, there's no way an A330 to LAX would have
111 aerorobnz : Even at 13 million, it's much cheaper than restarting the Cook Island International brand or growing the Air Rarotonga airline. I agree with you, I r
112 WSTAKL : $900 rtn CHC-AKL over the Bruce Springsteen concert weekend. Get in quick folks! Yeah yeah NZ are a business therefore a profit has to be made, but co
113 CHCalfonzo : What are you on about, I can see plenty of $200-$300 each way fares that weekend. What's unreasonable about that? All the JQ fares are $200-$300 aswe
114 777ER : Its also known as supply and demand! NZ and JQ have noticed/can see a big demand for flights over that period, just like over Christmas etc. Hotels d
115 Post contains links zkojq : First 787-9 route announced: AKL-PER. Cabin configuration has been announced also. 18 in business premier. 21 in premium economy. 263 in economy. (32
116 texan : And still $300-$350 return from WLG. Looks like I need to book some flights--going to both shows! Texan
117 koruman : I understand that Air Tahiti Nui has already entered into negotiations with the Cook Islands government about three different possibilities: 1) Extend
118 NZ107 : I'd like to know what the capability of the A343 is in and out of the 2.3km runway at RAR. That could be a decently sized hurdle to at least the RAR-
119 koruman : I seriously doubt that there would be LAX-RAR-LAX flights on TN. I suspect that the whole exercise in the first instance is to try to extract a bette
120 NZ107 : If that's what's proposed, I think we might just get to see how stuck up the Cook Islands Govt is.. Whether they accept this (with the consequence of
121 koruman : The problem was that they bungled the opening of their Sydney route by making it a SYD-PPT-JFK-CDG flight, and they got slaughtered on the JFK sector
122 Post contains links xiaotung : http://www.voxy.co.nz/business/airli...al-kiwi-designed-skycouch/5/173249 NZ has finally signed a licensing agreement to sell Skycouch to another airl
123 NZ107 : Someone screwed up.. I guess time will tell with that one.. Though whether they're successful in the first place is another story. I could see NZ con
124 SelandiaBaru : Yeah CX seems highly unlikely. I agree BR seems possible. I don't even think they'd need to increase the pitch in their economy cabins on the 77W to
125 Post contains images Palmyboy12 : Are there really no training flights - no short trans Tasman or domestic hops? Or have the crew trained enough in the new 787 interior mockup? Then a
126 cchan : NZ90 NRT-CHC-AKL
127 sunrisevalley : Assuming they take delivery of the first aircraft in July, they are going to have 3-months of training flights till mid-October when the Perth servic
128 Palmyboy12 : Is the CHC-AKL segment only of the route bookable? Because I've checked the Air New Zealand website and though it shows up on the schedule (11.15am d
129 CHCalfonzo : It is not bookable as a stand alone domestic leg, however you can get on it if you are connecting internationally in AKL. It is well timed to connect
130 Post contains links PA515 : ZK-MVD appears to be on it's way. SXI1348 on www.flightradar24.com just west of Bahrain at 25,000 ft -- no aircraft type -- is following the same rout
131 NZ107 : Talk in the Australian forum that AR is pulling out of EZE-SYD next year.. Time for NZ to seriously consider EZE or GIG/GRU? If this happens, Oneworld
132 byronicle6 : Maybe its a sign that it is a difficult market to make work
133 aotearoa : In regard to initial ANZ 787 operations, I gather that the airline intends to schedule ad hoc services across the Tasman between AKL and SYD. I imagin
134 777ER : I would certainly be interested in either a domestic or Tasman (SYD etc) sector. Hopefully NZ shows off the aircraft in WLG like they did with the 77
135 zkncj : Provided WLG doesn't scare them off with all there 789 will give us longhual from WLG.
136 aerorobnz : I don't buy that. They have taken up the ex SQ 345 fleet of 5 for exactly that role. Otherwise they would just have standardised on a 330 fleet. Also
137 koruman : It could be that they see the A345s are intended to be more efficient (relative, I know) aircraft to Europe. By the way, on the NZ789 thread I've wri
138 Post contains links PA515 : There's been no AR announcement about getting 345's. There may have been inquiries, but nothing appears to have been signed. Also www.argentina-airli
139 Post contains links aerorobnz : While I accept that AR may not have a published press release, it does appear to be relatively concrete, with the aircraft already positioned to LDE
140 Post contains links xiaotung : http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...Unique-battle-for-Virgin-Australia An interesting article from this morning. It looks like VA is not doing too
141 axio : You’ll have to excuse this for being a bit ranty… but I wasn’t feeling very impressed this morning. One thing I will mention though, is that thi
142 koruman : Best for me too, but if anything SkyTeam seems more likely to me. My only issue with the repositioning when Borghetti took over was the rebrand from
143 Post contains links SCL767 : Two LAN A343s currently en route to AKL. CC-CQA operating the usual SYD-AKL sector and CC-CQF operating as LA9903 from SIN to AKL: http://flightaware.
144 Post contains links PA515 : ZK-MVD arrived BNE about two hours ago. It has the same colour scheme as MVB and MVC, without the Tourism NZ fern logo. Photo http://ybbn.blogspot.com
145 Post contains images motorhussy : And have Pauline Hanson front the advertising campaign?
146 NZ107 : Tomorrow is scheduled to be the final Air Pacific 747-400 flight, to AKL.. ETA 1500, ETD 1615. Then not long after, it'll be on its way to Tupelo like
147 haggis73 : Looks like it is now cancelled.
148 haggis73 : Man, this is hard to keep up with the airport information screens. Looks like it is back on again.
149 Post contains images NZ107 : Haha.. Don't forget they run on Fiji Time!
150 aerorobnz : Look for FJK on FJ413/412. Flights merged into one.
151 aerokiwi : Strange - don't tell me they haven't figured out how to apply it to the Link fleet... or even, thery're going to keep the Link livery separate. Maybe
152 Post contains links NZ107 : There's an Evergreen 744 in AKL today, scheduled to leave at 2315. Get it while you can because the company may fold at the end of the month. http://m
153 aerorobnz : There's going to be an Elephant onboard travelling to a new home in USA. That leaves only one Elephant left in the whole of NZ.
154 Post contains links and images gytr31 : A fantastical picture heading up the main page today, a new Mount Cook ATR alongside an Emirates 380 for a scale comparison! View Large View MediumPho
155 nz2 : Along the same lines, my recent return flight from HNL to AKL was delayed a day due to the 767 going tech 2 days prior to the flight and a 772 being
156 Post contains links Andrensn : The government has started to sell of more of its stake in Airnz to bring its shareholding down to 51% http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cf
157 ZK-NBT : I remember this, I would have my doubts that they would have known the 763 would still be broken 2 days later, I'd say they would have planned on the
158 nz2 : Fair point
159 motorhussy : Not to nitpick but the Govt will sell down their shareholding to 53% of the total. I personally think this is very well timed and offers no disadvant
160 aerokiwi : Though it does repress the value of the shares - adding restrictions always do. And they're pretty pointless restrictions... what exactly are they tr
161 mariner : That seems like a stretch and I surely hope there is no truth to it. mariner
162 zkncj : Does anyone know how to by the AIR shares on the NZX? it seems like they are makeing near impossible to snap up any shares.
163 NZ107 : They sell them to institutions to onsell to their clients. The first chance for you as an individual to buy them will be on Wednesday morning, when t
164 Post contains images zkojq : Qantas A330-300 VH-QPH arrived in Auckland this afternoon. Presumably from Perth? Yes, yes yes!
165 aerorobnz : Nope. A SYD-AKL-SYD Charter for LA
166 zkncj : Doesn't sound like the most friendliest process for the general public, now if only Grabaseat sold shares....
167 mr airnz : Prior to the sell down, thousands of shares from the 27% already in private hands were traded daily. Find a broker, give him a buy price to purchase
168 cchan : Could someone be able to shed some light on why NZ87 departs AKL 9 min earlier on 20/12/2013 and NZ80 departs HKG 35 min later on 21/12/2013?
169 PA515 : What's your source? There's no alteration in the website schedule, but it's usually updated later than other sources. Most likely squeezing in an extr
170 NZ107 : Well the fact is, the price would plummet if it was simply released onto the market. Putting 20% of the company immediately up for sale when there's
171 sunrisevalley : Just as well. In my view NZ is not a stock that a small investor should own.
172 MillwallSean : Its not easy to place more shares on the NZ stockexchange. the turnover there is very very low by international standards and its mainly a few banks t
173 aerokiwi : Why? I think it would be pretty cunning, frankly. NZ setting itself up for global consolidation by owning a large chunk of a sweeter deal (Virgin)...
174 mariner : Air NZ buying into Virgin is fine. Etihad buying into Air NZ - not so much. There is an inherent tension between Air NZ and the other two airline own
175 aerokiwi : But I'm genuinely interested in why you think that. Is it EY specifically? Or any airline that could invest in NZ? Why is it good for NZ to buy into
176 xiaotung : I think it is exactly EY specifically. The way EY are going with their equity alliances is that they want to control the direction of their little al
177 sunrisevalley : But does NZ offer a TT service to EY through passengers to NZL comparable to what they get on EY ? If they don't they are leaving the door ajar.
178 Post contains links mariner : It is Etihad specifically but also more generally. I think Etihad has a big basket of fish to fry and, as in Australia, it would only be interested i
179 xiaotung : No, I think it only delays EY's entry. With the amount of aircraft EY has bought, it's inevitble to see EY metal in AKL at some stage.
180 Post contains links 777ER : Air New Zealand has revamped its Airpoints loyalty scheme making it more attractive for shorter flights, while also adding an exclusive by-invitation-
181 cchan : From the booking engine on NZ's website. It is now showing in the schedules. Not showing any extra flights on the day. Wonder what the reason is for
182 Post contains links and images mariner : Just to add to that, here's another reason why I raise an eyebrow about foreign (airline) investment. Etihad talked about its aircraft orders at the
183 motorhussy : Unless you had a large institutional investor waiting in the wings for the purchase. I agree with you and suspect that NZ is readying themselves for
184 mariner : They may be cognisant - but "complicit"? There is nothing inherently illegal or untoward about it.. It raises certain questions abut control of the a
185 sunrisevalley : Brings back memories of when NZ ( TEAL in those days ) wanted to buy Comet 2's to replace the DC6B's and QF over rid this decision at the Board level
186 aerokiwi : I'm still not sure what the problem is. You're somehow suggesting that a foreign investor pushing a particular fleet strategy is some kind of nefario
187 mariner : Why should they care if the airline is profitable? As above, I don't know that Etihad gives two hoots whether Virgin Australia is profitable or not a
188 aerokiwi : Not really. I like their reliability and domestic service is always pretty good, and I'm a big fan of the 737 fleet. I like the satff too, though pit
189 mariner : The primary value of Virgin Australia to its airline investors is the access to the Australian market (and the FF base). Profit would be nice, sure,
190 gasman : Does any of this really matter? With events at the Dubai air show this week, you would have to suspect that the days are numbered for the internationa
191 Post contains images mariner : They bought a lot of planes - it doesn't make them invincible. Wait till the Chinese airlines start spreading their wings. mariner
192 Post contains images motorhussy : If they are knowingly maneuvering the company toward an overseas ownership model that is outside the Govt. of the Realm of New Zealand's stated legis
193 mariner : If it were that, sure, I would agree with you. At the risk of flogging a dead horse, Kiwis have many ways to get to the ME/Europe, but it is a declin
194 aerokiwi : Yeah so you do this a lot (I noticed in the Frontier threads), where you make statements and then feign ignorance as to why they might be controversi
195 mariner : I feel no need to defend my use of the English language. In the other thread I've just given an example of the $3 million dollar subsidy that Qantas
196 xiaotung : China Southern will run a charter flight to CHC during the Chinese New Year and bring B787 to CHC for the first time. Perhaps CHC indeed will become C
197 Post contains links CHCalfonzo : Where was this announced, I can't find any articles about it? While I was searching though I found the following articles where China Southern CEO Ta
198 ZKOJH : the only info I found was CZ increasing 787 ops to AKL over the China New Year, I read it on nzherald yesterday, ''The airline will put on two extra f
199 xiaotung : CZ announced this on Chinese Twitter-like Weibo this morning: 02/02/14 CZ6047 B787 CAN 15:00 CHC 07:30+1; 03/02/14 CZ6048 B787 CHC 10:00 CAN 17:00
200 NZStevenC : Quick question - I couldn't see any updates on the NZ 772 refurbs on the last three New Zealand threads. When is the dreaded 10-abreast conversion of
201 PA515 : Last I heard it was going to take a year commencing in April 2014. They can take a 77E out of service after the summer peak, they don't need to wait
202 sunrisevalley : what will the new seat count by class be?
203 zkncj : Hasn't been released yet, although the 789 is 302 and the currently 772 is 304. So thats likely to increase.
204 nirvarma : Did EK435 go tech yesterday or was it just delayed? I see it was still on the ground at AKL until 11pm. Cheers NV
205 sunrisevalley : I can see how they might add one seat to 26 rows which would bring the Y count to 268- seats. If they added another row of Y+ that would reduce the Y
206 NZ107 : EK website says it departed AKL at 0045. Currently over Northern Territory.
207 Post contains links Palmyboy12 : Has anybody actually known about this yet? Air New Zealand will paint a second 777-300ER in a Hobbit livery (of all the websites, the Farming Show rad
208 aerorobnz : ZK-OKO in the maintenance undergoing checks. This will be the machine
209 NZ107 : Any idea of the time of unveiling? I would presume Sunday morning?
210 Post contains links and images zkojq : Air Pacific's last 747 operation into LAX. Next stop will be the scrapper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8WrCnqiAeQ Ah ok. Thanks for the correction
211 NZ107 : Apparently the LA premiere is 2 Dec though?
212 Post contains images zkojq : Oh true. Probably not possible to do a flypast there.
213 nascarnut : The aircraft will be revealed on Dec 2nd and operate AKL-LAX on Dec 2nd for the LA Premiere Aircraft should operate NZ6 @ 1915 ex AKL arriving LAX @
214 Post contains images NZ107 : They could send it long and make it do a Santa Monica approach Thanks for that. Bummer it'll have to be on a Monday though; wish they'd roll it out t
215 aerorobnz : that actually happened a couple of weeks ago and it landed on the North complex...
216 NZ107 : Interesting.. Because usually they take the usual approach but just switch to the 24s on final if they were going to land there.. Then again, it's st
217 antonknee : Can't say I had heard that one - should be good. It would look absolutely stunning to see the 777 in the Hobbit livery with the gold accenting - I ca
218 Post contains links 777ER : New Zealand Aviation Part 137 (by 777ER Nov 25 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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