gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2641 times:
Does anyone have any idea when US Airways will start retiring the the 767's from the fleet?
Im not on here in anyway to knock the aircraft, but I am sure I have been reading on here for the last 5+ years that the airline will start to retire the aircraft when the A330-200's arrive, and that this was always the plan...
(Please correct me if I am wrong)
But every year seems to come and go and the airline announces a host of new routes, and juggles the fleet around for the 767's to fly some of these and any of longer thinner routes that the 757 cannot fly. While other routes previously flown by the 767, then get upgraded to any newly arriving A330-200's.
The airline only has a few more A330-200's left to be delivered (not sure how many), and the A350's are not due to arrive for another five years. So is they are to retire the aircraft in the next few years, they will not be able to replace the type on a 1:1 ratio and means there will need to be some routes cut to Europe or South America.
To be fair to US Airways, if they can continue to make the 767's work and return a profit, I can't blame them for continuing to use them in the fleet...
I was also curious to know, does the airline park up part of its Long Haul fleet in the winter months, as they seem to operate a lot more Summer only routes than other airlines?
Would anyone have a break down of the routes and aircraft used for long haul, for maybe the last summer and how it compares to next summer.
MIflyer12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 554 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 month 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2524 times:
As is common with paid-for but not yet at end-of-life aircraft, it depends on fuel prices. On a seat-mile basis, the 762 is uneconomical vs. a 763/764/332/333 - but that doesn't mean all seats on bigger aircraft can be filled, or (more appropriately in the case of US) filled year-round. If the trip cost on a 762 off-season to Brazil is cheaper than a 332, that 762 serves a function - let the 332 run routes with higher demand. Make a perfect forecast of fuel prices out five years and you'll be able to derive your answer.
USAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2836 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2091 times:
Their 767s are like NW's DC10s. Both airlines kept them flying because the leases are cheap and they fit well in their perspective networks.
IIRC, all were due to be retired by the end of 2014. I was under the impression that all TATL flying in S14 would be done by A330s or B757s, but this isn't the case anymore. With the leases just recently extended, I don't know the estimated retiring date.
US is slowly getting rid of all Boeing aircraft. All 733s were retired last year, and several 734s were retired this year, with the hope of retiring all of them by the end of 2014. IIRC, US has stated they would like to get rid of all B757s by the end of the decade, but there is no replacement aircraft for them at this point.
All B767s received a cabin refresh a couple of years back with new bulkhead monitors, Envoy seats, and new padding in Y. This year, they replaced the midcabin TV monitor with an LCD monitor.
washingtonflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2013, 136 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1104 times:
US has taken delivery of four 332s this year (one this week IIRC). And, yes, US keeps adding on new service (much of it seasonal and out of CLT). You'll find that many of the seasonal routes are on the 762s which feel very long in the teeth.
US also seems to use them on certain holiday routes during peak periods and has learned to use them well (GCM, CUN, SJU, etc.).
As to A321s replacing 757s, the current 321s can and do replace 75s on most mainline domestic routes. You'll find 75s primarily doing over water runs (AMS, BRU, SNN, and Hawaii) - something the 321s simply don't have the range and/or certification to do.
One little tidbit to add that I found interesting is that US acquired a 757 about 2.5 years ago from North American. So, they seemed as if they found a deal and swooped down to grab it. Makes you wonder if they'd grab other newer vintage 75s if they could (merger notwithstanding).