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Your Favorite Regional Jet  
User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 12 months 1 day ago) and read 1439 times:

What is your favorite regional jet still not built? Mine is the A318, because it is for sure the widest, where you have the most place and it will be very similar to the A319, which is a good plane. The EMB-190 will be as wide as the Emb-145 or EMB-170. So it will be a very narrow airplane, where you almost asphyxiate when it is full of people. I don't know Canadair's regional Jet. I think Fairchild's reginal jet 728/928 could be also a good one.

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User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2942 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (12 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 1383 times:

A318 or BAE RJX-100X

Anything which doesn't make me feel like I'm a sardine in a tin.



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (12 years 12 months 23 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Mine is the 728/928JET family. Best in its class. One correction: the ERJ-170/190 are wider than the ERJ-145.


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 1374 times:

Most confortable regional jet: ERJ-145
Of course it is also the most "elegant"

And it is true, the next generation Embraer has almost nothing to do with the ERJ145 / 135 which is in fact a stretched EMB-120 Brasilia, with diferent engines and wing.


The new breed of regional jets, due to appear in two or three years, from Embraer, Dornier and the likes, are dull and almos identical to each other.


User currently offlineErj190 From Portugal, joined Dec 2000, 397 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 12 months 22 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Many people defend that B-777, B-767 and B-757, as well as A-330 and A-310 although being twin jets, are perfectly safe in long range transatlantic flights.

ETOPS regulations give people a certain degree of safety.

People saying that twins are safe, claim that no problem was ever detected, with twin jets that could be directly related with the "lack" of additional engines in a long range intercontinental flight.

Some people nevertheless claim that the world is just waiting for an accident. An accident that will prove that a four engined aircraft is far safer than a twin in long range flights. It it has never happened, it will - they say.

I must say that I have flown transatlantic flights between Portugal and Brazil, via TAP (with four engined A-340) and with VARIG (With two B-767ER).

The difference is not that much, but when I am up there I can't stop thinking about it.

Opinions welcome.


User currently offlineSN-A330 From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 1129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (12 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

My favourite is the Avro RJX100

Regards, SN-A330



I would rather be flying...
User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 1362 times:


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Patrick


User currently offlineRjx From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 1356 times:

Mine is the rj-85 what a wonderfull airplane

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (12 years 12 months 21 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

My favorite which is already built is the Canadair CL-600 and the one which has not been built yet is EMB-190.

User currently offlineSouthernCRJ From Argentina, joined Sep 2001, 180 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (12 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

I believe CRJ (series -700 and -900) are the best regional jets  Big thumbs up

Regards
SouthernCRJ


User currently offlineJgardner From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 79 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 1337 times:

I think the new dornier regionals will be pretty nice

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (12 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 1328 times:

Probably the ERJ 170 as it is going to be wider than current CRJ's or ERJ's but still has no middle seats.



(This pic shows the cabin of an ERJ 190-100 which is longer but provides the same width as the 170.)

Regards,
NoUFO - who truly dislikes middle seats



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User currently offlineGo Canada! From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 2955 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (12 years 12 months 18 hours ago) and read 1325 times:

A318, its so cute!


It is amazing what can be accomplised when nobody takes the credit
User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1323 times:

I'm sorry, I didn't know that the EMB170/190 will be wider than its previous brothers. But will it be aslo higher? I'm 1m90 tall and I had to bend me down a little bit when I walked through the Emb 145 last time. I think taller people have problems. The advantage of the A318 is that it is 2m 14 high.

User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

But will it be aslo higher? I'm 1m90 tall and I had to bend me down a little bit when I walked through the Emb 145 last time. I think taller people have problems. The advantage of the A318 is that it is 2m 14 high.


Yes, the cabin will be wider (2.52 m vs 1.56 m [ERJ 145], both on floor level!) and higher, not as high as the A 318, though: 2 m (ERJ 145: 1.82 m).

Regards,
NoUFO






I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1316 times:

One would guess that the middle seat will only be used when the load factor is higher than 80 %. But loads this high are very unusual in regional business. So I see a five-abreast plane to be more comfortable than a 4-abreast. And one has consider the "tube-effect". The ERJs are much thiner compared to the 728JEt or RJX-85/100. But only time will tell what is prefered by customers.


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

Thanks NoUfo and thanks to all.

User currently offlineKing767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1310 times:

Althougha rust bucket by today's standards, the rugged Yak-40. The Do328jet also is a nice bird I hear.

-Tom


User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (12 years 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 1312 times:

Flying-Tiger,

Of course this was just my opinion, but

One would guess that the middle seat will only be used when the load factor is higher than 80 %. But loads this high are very unusual in regional business

Why "higher than 80%" and not 66%??
I'm not so good at maths, but when you take a 90-seater then 30 seats fall on middle seats which equals 1/3, hmm?
I fly quite often on regional jets with some 70% or 80% of capacity used.

Regards,
NoUFO



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7957 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (12 years 12 months 16 hours ago) and read 1307 times:

The ERJs are much thiner compared to the 728JEt or RJX-85/100.

That depends on what you mean with "much":
Max width ERJ 170: 3.01 m (4 abreast)
Max. width Dornier 728: 3.25 m (5 abreast)

I didn't look upt for the Avro but I guess it isn't much wider than Dornier's 728 - if i is wider.

But only time will tell what is prefered by customers.
True.

Regards,
NoUFO



I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineEDR 374 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Which is the most fuel-efficient? I think the Bae 145 is not on the top with its four engines.

User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (12 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1290 times:


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Photo © Michael F. McLaughlin


Unfortunately,we don't see Atlantic Coast ones in ROC,yet. And since Midway's demise the only one we see is Comair's (service to CVG)



'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineIAHERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 677 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (12 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1292 times:

ERJ-145 why?
Leather seats in all series. Isle or window or both. Bathroom is larger than CRJ. Window is larger and at a level that a normal adult won't have to strain his or her neck to look out of. Food service. Real coffee makers that brew fresh coffee on newer ERJ's. Dual FMS in newer ones and dual radar heads with terrain mapping.

Dislikes of ERJ:
Smaller cockpit
noisy cockpit and front of cabin
7600 foot takeoff rolls are the norm!
.783 high speed bell is unable to be canceled!
Thrust reversers deploy like an Airbus




Actually flown: EMB-120 EMB-145 B717 B737 B757 B767
User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (12 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1289 times:

The A318 is not a regional jet.

User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (12 years 12 months 14 hours ago) and read 1282 times:

Why not?

25 EDR 374 : The A 318 has been launched as a reginal jet with about 100 seats. The Emb 190 is as big as the A 318 and has almost the same range.
26 Post contains links Flying-Tiger : You have five seats in one row. Means 100% has to be divided by 5, not by three (20% vs 33%). 60 pax in a 90-seater equals to a load factor of 66% whe
27 Ericmetallica : I love the DO-328 Jet, i hope to fly one,one of these days. Eric
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