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Superjet Works Well At Interjet  
User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2800 posts, RR: 59
Posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 13600 times:

There is a thread started for this but it was locked, why I don't know. Anyway, finally some good new for Sukhoi and Alenia, 99% reliability is not to shabby for new aircraft:

http://airinsight.com/2013/10/29/sup...source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

“Passengers are very happy with the aircraft. The SSJ100 is confirming its superior aerodynamics and outstanding performance. We are very proud of the new SSJ100: it is currently the only regional aircraft with a 5 abreast configuration enabling mainline comfort with reduced operating costs and the flexibility of a regional jet to be operated in small airports; the SSJ100 is a key choice for Interjet’s development plan focused on serving Mexico’s domestic mid-density routes as well as some short-haul international ones” says Jose Luis Garza, CEO Interjet.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7127 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 13344 times:

It's good to see that it's working well for them. That program needs a break like this.


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User currently offlinemandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6751 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 13111 times:

The SSJ is an interesting aircraft. The fuel burn penalties for not being near your optimum altitude is horrendous! In standard config, full pax, 200NM alternate & 30mins hold, you still have about 4 tons to spare to your MLW... so it's a useful cargo hauler too. The downside is that the approach speed at MLW is about 147 knots (Vref 142 giving Vapp of 147 at no wind), this is why one needs 1600m as minimum runway to dispatch the plane into...

I talked to some of the crew at Sky Aviation here, their SSJ crew seem to love it,,,



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2552 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12184 times:

Good news for the program, which IMO really needs to deliver more aircraft to airlines out there, to have more exposure to more customers and regions. Having a broad customer and aircraft base helps in discovering and troubleshooting issues - and the current 20ish aircraft is not exactly a large statistical base.

Sukhoi has issued a press release on the good reliability at Interjet as well:
http://www.superjetinternational.com...100-confirm-successful-operations/

After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.


User currently offlineAviaponcho From France, joined Aug 2011, 607 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12047 times:

You can follow it here

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmEt8JO6g23FdGZXZlprb3ZpNUt6TFRHOUtVY3Bzcnc&output=html

Very nice utilization rate
Engines seems OK also

Mandala499, i'll be interested in more insight on this plane 


User currently offlinesccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5484 posts, RR: 28
Reply 5, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 12025 times:

Interesting.

If Sukhoi can maintain a good experience for one first-world carrier (and I think doing so in the western hemisphere is a psychological benefit), perhaps hey can break further into the market.

Competition, she's a good thing!



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User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2189 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11929 times:

I had booked a MEX-ZAC flight just to make a Trip report, but I have been super busy at work to take a day off, I hope to make one in less than 3 weeks!..

TRB



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User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 11827 times:
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Good for 4O! I can't wait to fly on one! Any chances they will start any new routes out of SNA with it?

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12784 posts, RR: 100
Reply 8, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 11635 times:
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Quoting r2rho (Reply 3):
After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.

   *Far* better than I expected. Kudos to Interjet and Sukhoi.

This is the news the program needed. Now to sell enough to have economy of scale...

Quoting sccutler (Reply 5):
Competition, she's a good thing!

   Soon add the MRJ...

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinePaolo92 From Italy, joined Oct 2007, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11558 times:

In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.


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User currently offlineskyone From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11499 times:

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 7):

Good for 4O! I can't wait to fly on one! Any chances they will start any new routes out of SNA with it?

SNA seems to me, to be to far for the SSJ100 even from GDL. 4O best International route for this airplane seems to be MEX-SAT on a double daily basis. The A320 has to much capacity and with FL and 5D on the route flying 73G and E190s or E145s.


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 250 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 11226 times:
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Great news for the SSJ program, I really hope to see one in Italy in the future.... Fingers crossed!

User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 10886 times:
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Quoting skyone (Reply 10):

I don't see what you're talking, from what I can see on the Sukhoi website, it's should have the legs to make it to the LA area from MEX and GDL. What about new routes to SNA? Like SDJ-SNA? They could offer AirTran some competition. http://www.scac.ru/en/aircraft/performance/2010/


User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10878 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 3):
After 4 weeks of operation, 99.03% dispatch reliability and 9.74hrs average daily utilization. 600 flight hrs and 580 cycles accumulated. Max daily utilization was 11hrs.

It's probably outdoing the 787 on dispatch reliability at this point  



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10835 times:

Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 9):
In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.

Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 746 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10694 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?

Here it is going through BGR...

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIJ1502


User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10597 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
Quoting Paolo92 (Reply 9):In the meanwhile the third SSJ for Interjet (XA-JLV) took off from Venice this afternoon and is going to arrive in Mexico on November 7.
Anyone know the ferry routes that they are using?

Skyliner aviation posted the following information about the ferry flight:


  Sukhoi RRJ 95B 95028
  XA-JLV InterJet
  delivery 05-07nov13 VCE-KEF-YYR-BGR-TLC
  ex I-PDVY


Here is the path:




User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10587 times:
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Quoting KELPkid (Reply 13):

LOL  


User currently offlineFyano773 From Mexico, joined Mar 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10462 times:

Here is a more detailed map:

http://www.gcmap.com/map?P=vce-kef-yyr-bgr-tlc&MS=wls&MR=600&MX=576x288+&PM=*


The longest segment is BGR-TLC:

VCE (45°30'19"N 12°21'07"E) KEF (63°59'06"N 22°36'20"W) 326.0° (NW) 1852 mi
KEF (63°59'06"N 22°36'20"W) YYR (53°19'09"N 60°25'33"W) 258.9° (W)  1519 mi
YYR (53°19'09"N 60°25'33"W) BGR (44°48'27"N 68°49'41"W) 216.2° (SW)  700 mi
BGR (44°48'27"N 68°49'41"W) TLC (19°20'13"N 99°33'58"W) 235.2° (SW) 2488 mi


In the first delivery, the SSJ made 2 stops between BGR and TLC; as of second delivery Sukhoi realized the aircraft can make it nonstop.

[Edited 2013-11-05 16:53:59]

User currently offlinedoug_Or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3399 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10401 times:

Quoting AM777LR (Reply 12):
What about new routes to SNA?
Quoting mandala499 (Reply 2):
The downside is that the approach speed at MLW is about 147 knots (Vref 142 giving Vapp of 147 at no wind), this is why one needs 1600m as minimum runway to dispatch the plane into...

Don't know how this all shakes out, but perhaps performance out of SNA would provide hurdles at high weights?



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User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10384 times:
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Quoting doug_Or (Reply 19):
Don't know how this all shakes out, but perhaps performance out of SNA would provide hurdles at high weights?

Well, all aircraft have troubles at SNA at high weights due to the short runway. But, any routes that the SSJ operates out of SNA (if they do) would be short hops to maybe TIJ, or HMO.


User currently offlineghost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5211 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10303 times:

Only in Spanish, here one of the first trip reports of Interjet's SSJ100:

http://flyapm.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=209

g77



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User currently offlineAM777LR From Mexico, joined Sep 2013, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 10198 times:
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Quoting ghost77 (Reply 21):

Looks very nice inside! Can't wait to fly on it! As the passangers said "Qué bonito Avión"


User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2800 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10109 times:

Quoting ghost77 (Reply 21):
Only in Spanish, here one of the first trip reports of Interjet's SSJ100:

http://flyapm.com/foro/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=209

Thanks, what was obvious was how wide and comfortable the cabin was, the aisle was wide enough for him to pass the service cart when going to the wc, it is 3.27m wide and the Cseries is 3.28m. They will establish a new comfort level for a 5 abreast short hauler.

The major difference between the SSJ and the Cseries will be fuel burn as the engines burn 15% more fuel, they have the spec of a CFM5-7B.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7127 posts, RR: 17
Reply 24, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9848 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 8):
Soon add the MRJ...

I can't wait   

Quoting Fyano773 (Reply 18):
Here is a more detailed map:

What a flight....



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25 vfw614 : The link does not work me.
26 Aviaponcho : SSJ is almost 1 t lighter (BOW) than E190 (comparing Yakutia 93PAX layout with Virgin australia 104 PAS layout) And looks like fuel burn is close to
27 ferpe : The Sam146 is rather similar to CF34-10, both should be at TSFC 0.65 installed (Snecma gives the Sam146 as 0.63 uninstalled and GE the CF at 0.64), t
28 Aviaponcho : Sorry, I should have asked vs PW1200G that is in the same league... My guess is that the lightweight of the SSJ can do wonders on shorts hop even with
29 blrsea : Does the SSJ come with only one type of engine or are there multiple engines offered?
30 Post contains links ferpe : It looses bypass ratio to 9 as the fan i cropped, Wiki says it will loose 3% due to this, I would believe it, so the MRJ version would be at about ab
31 spantax : According to the trip report mentioned in Reply 21, the aft lavatory is "only ladies". I didn't know this "discrimination" existed on commercial plane
32 Post contains images Fyano773 : Third SSJ (XA-JLV) has arrived: The aircraft arrived at noon, local time.[Edited 2013-11-06 13:11:06]
33 AR385 : Ah, the Political Correctness police. It´s on all aircraft of Interjet´s. It´s a very successful policy too. Akin to having women only cars on the
34 Post contains links Ty134A : But the Superjet was designed to fit larger diameter engines as well. So we may see a GTF Superjet as well. And don't forget, since they qill not bui
35 Post contains links and images ferpe : I don't think the AN-148 is that far behind on at least the fuel burn side, the deficit is then mostly on the aero side I guess as the Progress power
36 Aviaponcho : Ferpe D436 in not certified by western standards (Fan blade out is a problem I think)
37 lightsaber : Not until the current engine contract expires, which is at least 11 years away (unless the French were silly signing the contract...). The main issue
38 TheRedBaron : happy decade of posting Compadre!!! TRB
39 RussianJet : Superb! Such a great looking aircraft and certainly very nice inside. Are there any potential new orders that could arise from the belated shot in the
40 tommytoyz : Do you know by how much? I wonder why the Sam146 was designed with such a low bypass ratio.
41 AR385 : Thanks a lot my friend. I hope there is another decade coming.
42 mandala499 : The SSJ130 is planned to have the GTF... The SAM146 contract only covers SSJ100 (which includes the 100-95 in production today). The bad news is that
43 ferpe : I truly hope this a real shot in the arm of Superjet and that it also sorts some of the who does what issues they have been having. Seems the italian
44 lightsaber : Per my sources 4%. Low bypass ratios are more optimal on shorter missions. It was a compromise designed to improve the SSJ's resale values later in l
45 Post contains images Fyano773 : News release about third delivery. Sukhoi highlights the superior performance and reliability of the 2 SSJ already in service: According to the articl
46 ferpe : Time for SkyWest to start talking with Superjet?
47 Aviaponcho : Are you serious ? Indeed SSJ seems to become a credible alternative. It might be too big for US feeders... but should do Ok for Europe
48 Post contains images mandala499 : Source was UAC... which is in a mess of it's own... Per my sources, they met their "minimum" promised burn... but am sure many would have preferred i
49 r2rho : Indeed, which is why I think that Sukhoi's main priority should be to get as many aircraft delivered out there as possible. A larger in-service aircr
50 SIBILLE : Wich Airlines will be the next to receive their first SSJ? Air Italy? Orient Thai? An other one?
51 Post contains images lightsaber : What is UAC? Yep. The engine and airframe are optimized differently: airframe for high altitude cruise, engines for climb... what mission was Sukhoi
52 Post contains links and images mandala499 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Aircraft_Corporation They're an interesting bunch... This is an interesting question indeed. It makes a nice repla
53 lollomz : Gazpromavia will soon receive the first SSj-100LR.
54 Post contains links A342 : Not necessarily. With the SSJ 130 more or less on the way, an alternative engine has to be found. The PD-10, derived from the PD-14 to be used on the
55 Post contains images lightsaber : Yes it is. Now to make aircraft that sell... It wouldn't be. I remember the A316/A317 concept. Its possible it will be just a growth of the SAM146. I
56 mandala499 : I think slapping a GTF on the SSJ130 will make it extremely attractive from the economics point of view... And the SSJ100 will need a bigger fan on t
57 lightsaber : Do you have numbers for comparisons? 800nm is marginal for design range. While I'd like to see another GTF platform, I am just not as enthusiastic ab
58 francoflier : That must make for interesting groundspeeds during landing at MEX... Especially for such a small aircraft. This kind of landing speed is jumbo jet te
59 ghost77 : Link's working fine. Check it out again! g77
60 Post contains links Aviaponcho : Looks like SSJ at interjet is running 200-500 Nm legs https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AmEt8JO6g23FdGZXZlprb3ZpNUt6TFRHOUtVY3Bzcnc&out
61 Post contains images Unflug : Doesn't work here, it says: Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server. ---------------------------------------------------------
62 Post contains images mandala499 : Link doesn't work... perhaps use a link shortener to prevent the HTML text converter of this site from going crazy?
63 r2rho : If I'm not mistaken, that would make 8 deliveries in 2013 - the same as for all of 2012. So assuming a few more before year end, there is a (very sli
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