Mason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1 Posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2016 times:
New service for Air Transat. Weekly flights will commence from October through April from SEA to Cancun, Maxico, non-stop using A-310 widebody aircraft. I heard AS was beefing up Mexico service with 737-700s and -900s now in the fleet, from Seattle. Well, a new service is something good in the wake of all the trouble in the airline industry lately. Anyone care to comment?
Squigee From Canada, joined May 2001, 652 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1936 times:
Not bloody likely. Air Transat just had a quarter of a million dollar fine for poor maintanence practices, and have been forced to shut down many of their tourism related businesses, causing thousands of layoffs and a major stock plunge. I think the only thing they will be investing in is a bankruptcy lawyer.
On a side note, the Cabotage laws prevent a canadian airline from running a service that originates in a different country, so I don't think they will be starting a route from SEA, especially when their hub is Montreal.
Lastly, Transat uses 757 and 1011s. With all of the recently mothballed 1011s from Delta, why would they invest in breand new 737s?
Correct me if I'm wrong, please.
Someday, we'll look back at this, laugh nervously, and then change the subject.
Airtransam From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
What they r trying to do is focus on a market that does not know about their reputation. Air Transit in Canada has recently been addressed as the worlds worst airline with dirty maintenance practices. Ever Since there near disaster flt in the middle of the atlantic bookings and shares have dropped to the ultimate low. The FAA and Transport Canada will never grant this small charter the licence for that. Recently Air Transat has been slapped with a quarter million dollar fine from Transport Canada for dirty maintenance practices. They tried fitting parts from different acft to different acft to cut costs. In the last 2 yrs its reported that this small charter which only has about 20 acft in its fleet (mostly consists of the ageing L-1011) had 7 safty violations that they were caught with. In addition the lucky to be-alive passengers from that ill fainted flt r now suing for 50million dollars thats fifty million dollar lawsuit. So I don't really think that anyone will take this outfit real seriously. Air Transit needs to clean up its act.
SKYSERVICE_330 From Canada, joined Sep 2000, 1390 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1895 times:
I hope Air Transat prevails, I have flown with them before and find them to be quite good, shaky in some parts, but generally and overall, a good airline. I wish good luck to all of its employees and the airline itself!
PS. Is anyone else getting tired of hearing about how certain forum members hate this airline, not to mention any names, but I am generally tired of hearing it. If you had a bad experience than I am sorry, but get over it for gosh sakes!
Mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31813 posts, RR: 72 Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1885 times:
Chrisa330, yes they are. It is called Fifth Freedom rights.
Air Transat's Seattle-Cancun route was announced before the terroirsts attacks (about a week before), so if it will happen or not is unknown. They were also planning Portland-Cancun. In the past, they have flown Buffalo-Punta Cana among other routes.
AF002 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 74 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
SkyService_330, I totally agree.
I'm tired too of the always complaining users that follow the media's trend of bashing an airline already in a bad situation, specially when those users probably never flown a single flight on that carrier.
I flew TS enough to say that's overall, except the cramped pitch (I'm 6'7"), it's nearly as good as a national carrier (i.e a good TS flight can be vastly superior to a poor AC one). And if Club Transat is available, you'll have more room than the majors for the same price
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16127 posts, RR: 57 Reply 13, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1859 times:
There is a loophole (intentional or not) in the US-Canada bilateral that allows Canadian carriers to bid on US-Mexico (for instance) charter series. Also Vice-versa. This is nothing new & has gone on for years.
Canada 3000 has operated numerous charter programs (For Apple Vacations & other) out of ORD, CVG, BUF & others to Mexico & the Caribbean.
Similarly, ATA operated a YYZ-ATH charter series a few years ago with 752's via SNN.
If nothing else, SEA customers will enjoy hot meals on the TS flights to CUN. A novelty for many Americans.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Aio86 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 928 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1856 times:
Isn't the term "fifth freedom rights" used on international flights too (ie not in USA) ie Saudi Arabian Air has 5th freedom rights to serve passengers between CDG and FCO on their CDG-FCO-Riyadh flight.
Yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16127 posts, RR: 57 Reply 15, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1855 times:
Yes, there are many examples of 5FR. although perhaps relatively fewer in the US than elsewhere.
Some examples include:
YYZ-JFK on EL AL (hardly convenient with all the security).
YYZ-JFK on PIA (I don't think so!)
ORD-FRA on SIA
Honolulu-Sydney/Melbourne on Air Canada.
YYZ-Havana on LACSA.
NW/UA have huge 5FR authority out of NRT to elsewhere in Asia.
There are many others....
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
Airnondo From Moldova, joined May 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1849 times:
Yes, it is absolutely true... Portland too.
Air Transat quietly announced flights from SEA-Cancun and from PDX-Cancun. The story was printed in local media... The fact that each is just a weekly flight probably explains why it wasn't well known.
FLYYUL From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4949 posts, RR: 52 Reply 17, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1814 times:
Could you please Shutup about Air Transat!!
Its not the world's worst airline, and you may have a personal problem with it, that's fine. But I dont want to hear how you come with some bullshit statement saying "Air Transat was noted as the world's worst airline" because it really is not.
There are so many worse carriers out there......and yes the health of Air Transat is very much important to the Canadian economy..