Bobsmuggle From Australia, joined Jul 2001, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3867 times:
Im sure this topic came up about a month ago!
The only time i ever say short finals is when the controller has forgotten to give me clearance to land and im pretty much seconds away from the runway. All i say is "callsign short finals rwy 28L" or whatever runway im on and that usually gives the controller a kick up the pants and they give the clearance straight away. I dont know any other time you would use it.
Sunken_Lunken From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 87 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3837 times:
There really is no definition of "short" for short final (at least I am not aware of any). "Short" is a relative term, and like others have said, it is generally used when a plane is aligned with the runway, and close to landing.
I have used it sometimes when giving a position report in the pattern at non-towered airports when there are multiple planes in the pattern. If I am close to landing, and there is another plane behind me on final, I will report that I'm on short final. This makes it easier for someone on the downwind leg to spot the other plane (behind me) on final.
Otherwise, if plane X behind me reports "final rwy 24", plane Y on downwind might see me and think I am the one who just called in on final. Then plane Y might inadvertantly turn base and cutoff or create a collision hazard with plane X on final.
There are of course other times when you might hear the term "short final" as others have described, but there is no specific meaning to "short". To some it means they are over the airport property, to others about to cross the threshold, or "over the fence", etc.
Erasmus From Italy, joined Jun 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
A pilot says he's on short final, when he's getting within a few seconds of landing.
This will wake up the atc controller, letting him know that he forgot to give a landing clearance yet.
Or it might be telling the guy on the runway to hurry up in vacating it, so that the following A/c doesn't have to make a go-around.