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Evergreen Cargo To Shutdown  
User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1716 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 27787 times:

US 747 freighter operator Evergreen International Airlines has announced to employees it will be closing its doors effective Friday, Nov. 29.

The closure will eliminate most of the parent company's remaining workforce.

Here is story:
http://newsregister.com/blog?article...n-source-blog#.UnxBz7XQLzg.twitter


Maybe not much of a surprise to those watching the company in recent years.
After being almost fully dependent on military activity for a decade, EZ has seen its fleet shrink to barely 3 operational aircraft in recent times while also experiencing all types of financial issues including having aircraft being grounded and inability to make payroll in a timely manner.

[Edited 2013-11-07 21:11:19]

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User currently offlineMesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3338 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 27718 times:
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What a shame, I think EV has one of the prettiest liveries in the skies.  

I've gone through JFK many times in the past few months and every time there have been 2 744s at the hangar and one ex-KE plane that I'm not sure if it belongs to them or not, but it is parked at their hangar.

I wish all the employees (and the planes, because we've seen what it's been like unloading used 744s lately) the best of luck!!



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User currently offlinePlainplane From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 849 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 27586 times:

I'm wondering, did Boeing possibly see this coming when they shifted their Dreamlifter ops from Evergreen to Atlas? Or was that simply another nail in the coffin?

User currently offlinebw50505 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 190 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 27572 times:

I was happy to see one of their jets in the SV Cargo livery over New York this past summer.

It's too bad they are going out! From what I read, they were a pretty good cargo airline. I also liked how they picked up N779BA and left in the untitled Korean Air livery.


User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 27254 times:

Quoting bw50505 (Reply 3):
From what I read, they were a pretty good cargo airline.

On the contrary, Evergreen represented the lowest common denominator in the industry. Their aircraft was barely serviceable, and always operated with a multiple of malfunctions in the cargo loading system. Their ground handling services were even worse. They paid their staff a pittance, and was considered by many as a last resort.



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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 27240 times:

My second trip to Hawaii was on EZ, it was a DC-8-50 aircraft, and I remember it being August 1980. We flew PDX-OGG-PDX, going 1x weekly, a Saturday only schedule, operating a full routing of SEA-PDX-OGG-PDX-SEA in one day.

I now live 30 miles from McMinnville, and see that 747 atop their museum and water park each time I drive to the coast. It's sad to see the last part of this once proud airline die off. I understand there is more to EZ than McMinnville, but there is a local attachment to me.



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User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 2039 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 26554 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 4):
On the contrary, Evergreen represented the lowest common denominator in the industry. Their aircraft was barely serviceable, and always operated with a multiple of malfunctions in the cargo loading system.

So they were something like the Tower Air of cargo.



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User currently offlinehkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1322 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 26433 times:

This is very sad, but as others have already said, the writing was on the wall considering the loss of key contracts. The environment is unimaginably tough for these smaller cargo carriers and makes you wonder who's next.

I will miss seeing their planes here in Hong Kong, a destination that offered them a lot of business back when times were good. I doubt the -400F/400BCFs/400BDSF will get a new lease on life so they are probably destined to be scrapped.


User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1954 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 26400 times:

Whatever happened to their 747 supertanker program and how will this be affected???

User currently offlineSpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 2039 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 26367 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 8):
Whatever happened to their 747 supertanker program and how will this be affected???

This is the state of that 747 last May.



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User currently offlineeta unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 25949 times:

So perhaps now EVA Air can rename themselves Evergreen...

User currently offlineKC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 24352 times:

It's quite a shame to see another old-time airline go out of business. Any time a business that flies the big planes goes down, it's just another nail in the coffin for diversity in the skies. I will be sad when the day comes that all the skies are dominated by twin-engine aircraft. I hope all those employees will be able to find work elsewhere soon!

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23996 times:

This one will live on.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26129 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23872 times:

Another weak link bites the dust.

In fairness however this had long been in coming. The last decade the aviation group has been on a continual decline and selling off assets. Just this year the helicopter division was sold off to cover almost $300mil in debt.

EZ as an airline really had no business model either the last decade except to rely almost entirely on Uncle Sam for the military flying which had to come to an end eventually. Also being stuck with an all 747 classic fleet that even the US government did not want to operate left EZ in a expensive spot to move away from.
I guess of the current fleets 3 744s, one was repo'd by Boeing for a while, while vendors and employees failed to get paid consistently last few months.

Then there are the legal issues still pending including tax investigation about money being moved around improperly under guise of a non-profit organization, plus a few big lawsuits including one from the UAE.

I guess for now the theme park remains.....



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User currently onlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23551 times:

I expect that the B747-400's will join N471EV, N478EV,N482EV, N485EV, N486EV, N487EV, N488EV, N489EV and N490EV in the desert.

Hopefully, the B747-400's, (unlike the B747-200's) will fly again.

Hopefully, N470EV and N479EV will also return to their fire fighting role in the future.


User currently offlinebillreid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1037 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23188 times:

So what happens to the other divisions?
EAGLE ground operations?
Helicopters?

I suspect Menzies or Swissport will buy EAGLE. Three Mile Lane buildings may not be supported sufficiently
by the remaining small businesses?



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1899 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23080 times:

Another company that turned problems into disaster by going the cost efficiency route.


Andy Goetsch
User currently offlineDTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 1773 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 22591 times:

Not sure how many a.netters knew that Evergreen used to have passenger flights using Lockheed Electras and DC-8's acquired from Air New Zealand. I worked for a independent contractor in the late 70's that trained their flight attendants who were very vague about when and where they flew. IIRC the late Shah of Iran was flown from CAI to the US aboard an Evergreen aircraft when he was very sick. Evergreen flew a lot of military charters within the continental US--their Electras were in very good shape--the DC-8's--not so much.

McMinnville, OR always seemed like an odd place to have an airline headquarters but I suppose that is the way their patrons wanted it.



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1747 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21609 times:

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 17):
McMinnville, OR always seemed like an odd place to have an airline headquarters but I suppose that is the way their patrons wanted it.


Del Smith, the founder was from the Seattle and started with helicopters growing the company from there. His biography is pretty amazing -- started out in an orphanage and won the Wright Brothers Trophy in 1999. It was a huge operation at one time helicopters, cargo, security etc. worldwide.


User currently offlineMountainFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21190 times:

Quoting crownvic (Reply 8):
Whatever happened to their 747 supertanker program and how will this be affected???

Evergreen's Supertanker was issued a new CWN (Call When Needed) contract by the USFS this spring which was supposed to go into effect July 1 of this year. Originally, they were going to do a C-check on the plane in August and have it operational by September, however that was deferred, I'm guessing do to their financial issues. They decided to have it operational by the 2014 fire season, although, now I would imagine its future is likely more taking up space in the desert.

Sources:

New Contract

Scheduled C Check (Item 7)

Deferred



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User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 605 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 20652 times:

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 1):

The ex Ke bird is indeed an evergreen BCF. However they did not have the money to repaint it before they took delivery. Unfortunately, the BCF's will probably end up in the desert. Boeing had two more waiting for delivery, but evergreen would not pay on debt for the first couple.

The the classic that was parked at JFK is nearing completion on being put back together if it already hasn't been finished and returned.



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3403 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 19625 times:

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 5):
I understand there is more to EZ than McMinnville, but there is a local attachment to me.

Same here.

Here's a an EZ 747 landing at McMinnville. If you're not familiar with MMV, this is more impressive than it may seem.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0l5O9XiSBQ



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User currently offlinewinstonlegthigh From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 18532 times:

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 9):
Quoting crownvic (Reply 8):
Whatever happened to their 747 supertanker program and how will this be affected???



This is the state of that 747 last May.

On the bright side, at least it looks like there was some forward thinking on their part by looking into a 747 twin.



Never has gravity been so uplifting.
User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 18486 times:

Wasn't EV once associated with the CIA or was it World ? You would think they would wait til after Christmas (if their contracts entailed such freight) . I remember reading last year about them retiring the last classic 747.


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User currently offlineLexy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2515 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (1 year 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 18366 times:

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 21):
Same here.

Here's a an EZ 747 landing at McMinnville. If you're not familiar with MMV, this is more impressive than it may seem.

That's a great video! Thanks for sharing it.



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25 bennett123 : I understand that Evergreen did buy some assets from Air America. Whether it went further than that is less clear.
26 MtnWest1979 : I also think Evergreen had the best scheme out there. Liked seeing it on the 727-100s, DCV-9s, 747s DC-8s and so on. Last one I saw was a 747-400 here
27 FlyCaledonian : I wonder if U2 (easyJet) will be applying to IATA to take on the EZ code?
28 cougar15 : no, that was Southern!
29 7BOEING7 : Southern Air Transport was CIA but Evergreen is thought to have had various CIA connections.
30 aerorobnz : I remember when their old 741s used to drop into AKL every Sunday Afternoon.
31 jfritz : I sure am gonna miss seeing them in PHX around Christmas...
32 Post contains links maxpower1954 : Evergreen had quite an interesting fleet over the years; check it out - http://www.aeromoe.com/fleets/evergreen.html I knew some of the pilots over th
33 RWA380 : Yes, and considering it was a charter flight, the EZ crew did a nice job of taking care of our family for 5 1/2 hours. Very cool, thanks for sharing
34 dsuairptman : Heard last week form a former Evergreen employee that this was coming. Apparently alot of the issues tie back to the company owner, his age, medical i
35 Post contains links treebeard787 : Glad I was able to catch one of their 742s last December. http://www.flickr.com/photos/75706613@N05/8355667829/
36 malioil : An iconic airline. The one image that always strikes me in regards to EV is HIM Empress Farah Pahlavi peering out of the aircraft while the aeroplane
37 teneriffe77 : I remember the end scene from Die Hard 2 showing one of there 747's getting blown up at the end killing all the bad guys with it.
38 Post contains links PHX787 : I can easily see someone buying into that asset. It's too good of a technological marvel to waste. Me too. I loved seeing that old girl land : http:/
39 YLWbased : Hold on a second, this was published on Evergreen's website yesterday: McMinnville, Oregon -- November 8, 2013 As has been previously reported in the
40 DTWPurserBoy : There is such a need for these aerial water bombers to fight fires. I hope some other user will pick them up. I know there is at least one DC-10 used
41 LAXintl : Sure Evergreen as a company may continue, but go look at pilot boards, as crews were notified their last day was 28th. Notice - Evergreen Internation
42 Post contains links dlramp4life : Yeah they can live on through their agriculture. http://www.evergreenaviation.com/index_ag.html But I believe their Maintenance Center in Marana is d
43 Post contains links LAXintl : Marana was sold in 2011 -- hence why it was renamed and Evergreen name dropped. http://www.evergreenaviation.com/p_releases/053111.html
44 AndyEastMids : The tanks were taken out of the SuperTanker and it just has two time-expired engines hung on it for balance, so if anyone wants it to use on fires it'
45 dlramp4life : Was not aware of that. Good to see Marana still doing good though.
46 aerorobnz : Yep, I went onboard one about a week ago. It's an amazing machine to go onboard..
47 OB1504 : I would assume that the ground handling operation would continue if its profitable. If not, I'm rooting for Swissport.
48 TZTriStar500 : 479 (Tanker 979) was the last operational Supertanker. 470 was the first and the system was removed from it, modified, and installed on 479. If and w
49 Post contains links bennett123 : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...lts.aspx?NNumbertxt=470EV&x=15&y=9 Given that it was built in 1974, with an airworthy date in 2006, I s
50 707lvr : Maybe someone will write a book now that it's over. Should be a good one.
51 Post contains links SpaceshipDC10 : Air Cargo News published that paper in which it mentions an investigation by Oregon DoJ and a United Arab Emirates company suing Evergreen. http://www
52 bennett123 : Correcting reply 14. According to Airliner World, N482EV, (MSN 20713) was ferried to McMinnville on 01/06/2013. It was then towed to the Evergreen Mus
53 tymnbalewne : Towards the nose of EV aircraft there are 6 stars. Can anyone tell me what their significance is, if any? EV has a great livery!
54 Post contains links and images RWA380 : Each star represents a continent that EZ provided service to, at least that is what I was told by our EZ pilot when I was a kid back in 1980 on a tri
55 ltbewr : They are pretty much bailing out of JFK ops and I suspect at other locations. Guess any remaining service will be via other airlines.
56 CX Flyboy : Theres a headline on Skyliner saying Evergreen have reversed their decision to shut and will now continue for the time being. Whats all that about? Wh
57 B747400ERF : Probably had no extra money to paint it! That isn't a good sign. I believe that would be Evergreen the Taiwan shipping company.
58 Post contains links and images Spacepope : No, these Casa 212s are operated by Evergreen Helicopters with N- registrations. View Large View MediumPhoto © Pier Francesco Baglivo
59 Post contains links bohica : That explains why there is a job posting for a Regional Director of Sales at JFK. It was posted on Indeed yesterday. Here's the link: http://www1.rec
60 GARUDAROD : That is for EAGLE, the ground handling company, Not Evergreen Airlines.
61 Polot : And, to reiterate, no longer part of Evergreen but rather a subsidiary of Erickson Air-Crane.
62 strfyr51 : The "Grim" (Evergreen) is like a "Tripple A" Farm team for the Majors. A place for beginner airline pilots or washed up airline pilots and a place for
63 Post contains links LAXintl : Looks like its indeed closing up shop. They have been only running a single aircraft the last couple weeks, and on Wednesday the bulk of the remaining
64 bennett123 : A bit surprised about the B747 sitting in China undergoing overhaul since Dec 2012. Does anyone know more about it.
65 GARUDAROD : Rumor has it the last remaining aircraft N492EV is being ferried to the desert and the company is officially out of business now. It will be interesti
66 Post contains links LAXintl : Looks like the last bird got ferried to the desert today http://flightaware.com/live/flight/EIA2513 Last week the other operations aircraft were moved
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