Maybe not much of a surprise to those watching the company in recent years.
After being almost fully dependent on military activity for a decade, EZ has seen its fleet shrink to barely 3 operational aircraft in recent times while also experiencing all types of financial issues including having aircraft being grounded and inability to make payroll in a timely manner.
MesaFlyGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 3687 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 28290 times:
What a shame, I think EV has one of the prettiest liveries in the skies.
I've gone through JFK many times in the past few months and every time there have been 2 744s at the hangar and one ex-KE plane that I'm not sure if it belongs to them or not, but it is parked at their hangar.
I wish all the employees (and the planes, because we've seen what it's been like unloading used 744s lately) the best of luck!!
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B777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 27826 times:
Quoting bw50505 (Reply 3): From what I read, they were a pretty good cargo airline.
On the contrary, Evergreen represented the lowest common denominator in the industry. Their aircraft was barely serviceable, and always operated with a multiple of malfunctions in the cargo loading system. Their ground handling services were even worse. They paid their staff a pittance, and was considered by many as a last resort.
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RWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3955 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 27812 times:
My second trip to Hawaii was on EZ, it was a DC-8-50 aircraft, and I remember it being August 1980. We flew PDX-OGG-PDX, going 1x weekly, a Saturday only schedule, operating a full routing of SEA-PDX-OGG-PDX-SEA in one day.
I now live 30 miles from McMinnville, and see that 747 atop their museum and water park each time I drive to the coast. It's sad to see the last part of this once proud airline die off. I understand there is more to EZ than McMinnville, but there is a local attachment to me.
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SpaceshipDC10 From Canada, joined Jan 2013, 2658 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 27126 times:
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 4): On the contrary, Evergreen represented the lowest common denominator in the industry. Their aircraft was barely serviceable, and always operated with a multiple of malfunctions in the cargo loading system.
So they were something like the Tower Air of cargo.
hkg82 From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2002, 1328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 27005 times:
This is very sad, but as others have already said, the writing was on the wall considering the loss of key contracts. The environment is unimaginably tough for these smaller cargo carriers and makes you wonder who's next.
I will miss seeing their planes here in Hong Kong, a destination that offered them a lot of business back when times were good. I doubt the -400F/400BCFs/400BDSF will get a new lease on life so they are probably destined to be scrapped.
KC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 24924 times:
It's quite a shame to see another old-time airline go out of business. Any time a business that flies the big planes goes down, it's just another nail in the coffin for diversity in the skies. I will be sad when the day comes that all the skies are dominated by twin-engine aircraft. I hope all those employees will be able to find work elsewhere soon!
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 27180 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 24444 times:
Another weak link bites the dust.
In fairness however this had long been in coming. The last decade the aviation group has been on a continual decline and selling off assets. Just this year the helicopter division was sold off to cover almost $300mil in debt.
EZ as an airline really had no business model either the last decade except to rely almost entirely on Uncle Sam for the military flying which had to come to an end eventually. Also being stuck with an all 747 classic fleet that even the US government did not want to operate left EZ in a expensive spot to move away from.
I guess of the current fleets 3 744s, one was repo'd by Boeing for a while, while vendors and employees failed to get paid consistently last few months.
Then there are the legal issues still pending including tax investigation about money being moved around improperly under guise of a non-profit organization, plus a few big lawsuits including one from the UAE.
I guess for now the theme park remains.....
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DTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 2052 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 23163 times:
Not sure how many a.netters knew that Evergreen used to have passenger flights using Lockheed Electras and DC-8's acquired from Air New Zealand. I worked for a independent contractor in the late 70's that trained their flight attendants who were very vague about when and where they flew. IIRC the late Shah of Iran was flown from CAI to the US aboard an Evergreen aircraft when he was very sick. Evergreen flew a lot of military charters within the continental US--their Electras were in very good shape--the DC-8's--not so much.
McMinnville, OR always seemed like an odd place to have an airline headquarters but I suppose that is the way their patrons wanted it.
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7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 2049 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 22181 times:
Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 17): McMinnville, OR always seemed like an odd place to have an airline headquarters but I suppose that is the way their patrons wanted it.
Del Smith, the founder was from the Seattle and started with helicopters growing the company from there. His biography is pretty amazing -- started out in an orphanage and won the Wright Brothers Trophy in 1999. It was a huge operation at one time helicopters, cargo, security etc. worldwide.
MountainFlyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 21762 times:
Quoting crownvic (Reply 8): Whatever happened to their 747 supertanker program and how will this be affected???
Evergreen's Supertanker was issued a new CWN (Call When Needed) contract by the USFS this spring which was supposed to go into effect July 1 of this year. Originally, they were going to do a C-check on the plane in August and have it operational by September, however that was deferred, I'm guessing do to their financial issues. They decided to have it operational by the 2014 fire season, although, now I would imagine its future is likely more taking up space in the desert.
The ex Ke bird is indeed an evergreen BCF. However they did not have the money to repaint it before they took delivery. Unfortunately, the BCF's will probably end up in the desert. Boeing had two more waiting for delivery, but evergreen would not pay on debt for the first couple.
The the classic that was parked at JFK is nearing completion on being put back together if it already hasn't been finished and returned.
United_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7597 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19058 times:
Wasn't EV once associated with the CIA or was it World ? You would think they would wait til after Christmas (if their contracts entailed such freight) . I remember reading last year about them retiring the last classic 747.
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