tioloko100 From Australia, joined Jul 2012, 139 posts, RR: 0 Posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 23512 times:
Come on guys! there are many ways you can professionally manage the situation instead of dropping the F word to an airline passenger, when flying an airline an staying in a hotel customers expect to be treated with respect not with rude responses.
Having read the article I believe this is the newspaper using their sensationalist tactics again by paraphrasing. In other words, they are putting statements in the mouths of people that never said them.
I do agree, however, that having flown over on BA and not being allowed on for the return trip is interesting. Did he put on significant weight while being in the USA? Or did anything else change that caused BA to have to turn him down? There is often more to a reported story than just the paraphrased bits.
type-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 23019 times:
The article does say that he needs oxygen full time and it appears that he is wheel chair bound too. Anyone who needs oxygen knows what a pain it is to order oxygen from an airline before you fly. And it's $$$$ too.
I think BA is just trying to limit their liability and not have this guy die on one of their flights.
If this family doesn't have any money, how can they take a train to NY and then get on the QM 2? That takes major bucks to do!
Superfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 40298 posts, RR: 73
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 22699 times:
I read this article earlier and these news outlets are so full of it! British Airways did what they had to do. It would be totally impractical for him to fly and carry all necessary medical equipment to keep him breathing throughout the flight. I really feel bad for the poor guy and hope he is able to recover or at least contain his illness.
The REAL question is, why isn't he getting medical treatment by the wonderful government run healthcare in his home country?
BTW, I used the 'F' word 4 times.
Quoting Doona (Reply 7): Excuse me, I need to go and be f*bulous.
Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 4): Quoting tioloko100 (Thread starter):
I think you mean "Come on" and not common.
Not sure if I should be posting then. I'm not common.
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4297 posts, RR: 35
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 22601 times:
Ok, if he needs oxygen, can't move on his own, and can barely fit through the main door (and as a consequence completely blocking the row he's taking up): let's explore the consequences of that in an emergency evac situation. Should others need to die because he has some divine right to partake in the miracle of flight?
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8560 posts, RR: 53
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 22427 times:
I don't even see why the word "fat" is offensive. If you need help breathing and can't fit through a door, you are, beyond question, fat. If this guy or anyone else is offended by it, get on the treadmill and fix it. Their lack of self-control does not mean they're entitled to endanger (at worst - by blocking an aisle or exit) or inconvenience (at least - by spilling into someone else's personal space) others.
Personally, if a real fatty sat next to me on a flight of more than an hour, and was taking all the armrest or otherwise infringing my space, I would get up and ask them to be reseated. It might be a bit embarrassing for the fatty but sorry, shouldn't have gone back up for a third helping at the buffet. Or, feel free to have a third, fourth and fifth helping, but don't make me pick up the tab.
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
You'll be surprised what $9,99 All-you-can-eat buffets can do to you.
When I lived in Australia I experienced a situation with McCafferty's Coaches, one huge guy was trying to board the bus for ever so long but just couldn't get through the door, it ended with the driver saying: "look, mate, you're just to big and we have to go now". So the big guy stood there with his suitcase as we drove off, wonder if he found alternative transport.
I find BA staff to be very professional and discrete, and I doubt they called him fat to his face. Behind the scenes, yes, but not to him.
jcwr56 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 22359 times:
I'll throw this out there and I saw the guy within the terminal.
Too big to sit in a First class seat
Too big to walk between aisles of the plane
Too big to walk up a set of stairs to have him access the last row of economy. Physically, I just couldnt see him doing it even if he was asked.
Too big to fit in a help vehicle which are used for wheel chairs.
TSA was even trying to figure out how they'd get him patted down without making a scene.
I understand the where the guy is coming from, but the picture in the article does not accurately reflect how large this was guy.
AyostoLeon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 21849 times:
@ I think you mean f*t, right?
No, can't be. BA isn't part of *alliance.
The passenger spent 18 months in the US and a lot can happen in that time, including changes in fitness for travel. The article does not say what the condition of the passenger was before travel to the US. Might his condition have deteriorated during his stay?