stackhouse007 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 422 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 17017 times:
Yahoo states that this plane plummeted in mid air before making an emergency landing at RDU? The pilot said on the loud speaker, "We're going down!"... Anyone have more information? Seems a little strange.
okie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3495 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 16879 times:
Sounds like a poor choice of words or phraseology by the pilot for a pressurization problem that was misinterpreted by the "expert frequent flyer"
No mention of the masks dropping so it looks like the pilot handled the problem perfectly, so the cabin never gained to 14K feet.
They missed crashing into the school and orphanage and landed at the destination airport to boot.
ozark1 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14289 times:
Incredible. This, folks, is what the airline industry is up against. A media that will not stop short of sensationalizing anything commercial aviation related that they can get their hands on.
It's really nauseating, unfair and completely uncalled for. Maybe next time it will be something more interesting, like an exploding toilet or a beverage cart gone wild.
bcoz From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 13836 times:
Some of the characterizations made in the story are very over the top. Also --- I don't really buy the "they fixed the plane in 1 hour and it flew on to Baltimore. Looks to me like they canceled the leg of that flight Tuesday night.
That being said, FlightAware does indicate that they did indeed experience a 9,900 FPM rate of decent from 32,500 to 17,000. Even as an experienced flier, that sure as hell would be enough to scare the crap out of me... regardless of what was said over the PA.
"We're going down........to a lower altitude due to a pressurization issue"
My thoughts EXACTLY. First thing I said to my wife when we were watching this lady on the news is yeah im sure the pilot keyed up on the mic and shouted nothing more than "Were going down". This lady is full of crap and looking to get nothing more than money out of the experience. Cant wait to find out what the pilot REALLY said!
bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9726 times:
Quoting ozark1 (Reply 4): Incredible. This, folks, is what the airline industry is up against. A media that will not stop short of sensationalizing anything commercial aviation related that they can get their hands on.
It's really nauseating, unfair and completely uncalled for.
Well, not to stick up for the news companies, but all it seems they did here was to report what a witness said. It was also reported on CNN, with some comments on what 'might' have actually been said, but she sticks by what she says she heard over the PA.
Yes, they are going to report it - that's their business. Sensationalism sells, but I don't see that they made anything up here ....yet!
I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
Arcrftlvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 826 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9372 times:
Quoting barney captain (Reply 2): We're going down........to a lower altitude due to a pressurization issue
Could the pilot have actually said something along the lines of 'we're starting down' or 'we're heading down?'. I'm wondering if in her panic, she misheard. Either way, if the plane was truly going down, I don't think a pilot would announce it to the entire aircraft?
Quoting bond007 (Reply 19): Well, not to stick up for the news companies, but all it seems they did here was to report what a witness said. It was also reported on CNN, with some comments on what 'might' have actually been said, but she sticks by what she says she heard over the PA.
Quoting bond007 (Reply 19): Yes, they are going to report it - that's their business.
The question is why are they reporting it in the first place? It's not a newsworthy story. Their business is to report newsworthy stories...
L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1715 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9183 times:
In my experience, sometimes PA announcements are very hard to hear, either because of engine noise, people talking loudly, or just low volume on the PA system. That might be why she didn't hear the whole thing.
Unfortunately, you're wrong. Their business SHOULD be to report newsworthy stories. In reality, their business is to report sensational stories--so they can literally scare up customers for advertisers.
I'm married to a pilot, and I've experienced emergency descents. A pilot simply wouldn't make a PA stating "We're going down." The passenger in this video is certainly emotional and seeking attention.
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Cary Grant to Eva Marie Saint in NBNW: I bet you could tease a man to death without half trying.....so stop trying.
wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5661 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 8430 times:
Has anyone tried to find the liveatc.net feed? Although it wouldn't record what he said to the cabin, it would give us a sense of tone and of nomenclature.
Also, for all the talk about people clawing at the overheads to get the masks to deploy (?!!), it seems like perhaps this was a false alarm and that's why they didn't. Should have been easy enough for the FO to look up and see what the cabin altitude actually showed, regardless of the "maintenance warning". Also, can't they manually deploy the masks from the flight deck on the 737 if that was necessary. I would be curious as to what the warning actually was -- I seriously doubt it was the cabin altitude horn. (I say "horn", but have they changed it to a different warning since the Helios nincompoops missed it?
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: He simply wouldn´t have time, or even remember to make such an announcement.
: Could it be (IF there was in fact this descent and blah-blah-blah) that he was saying something to alert the FAs since they would still be up and abou
: I think you're confusing 'newsworthy' with relevant important events around the world The BBC about 40 years ago might have been the only news agency
28 barney captain
: I would have been if it were structurally possible.
: Should this women seek compensation for her "emotional torment", is this something they would turn to the CVR to settle?
: THAT is exactly what I was thinking... I read another pax account that the FA's couldn't get ahold of the FD (or something along those lines) so it's
: It's a slow news day... My humble opinion... some kind of Alert, QRH says descend to FLxxx, Crew calls ATC to declare emergency and inform them of in
: In that the flight deck received a pressurization alarm. I would think protocol mandates the the pilot and first officer don oxygen masks which could
: Seems to me the 17000 ft at 5:37pm should be a 27000. That would make the rate numbers make sense and would get rid of the high decent rate and then
: Asking from a position of ignorance here... What would the maximum rate of decent be in terms of maintaining structural integrity and recoverable aer
: New story kinda close. http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=9326090 Southwest told ABC11 Flight 3426 was headed from Tampa to
: I'm waiting for the one that will be about a passenger's Chihuahua getting loose midflight and going postal. As many have said if it bleads, it leads