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737-900: Rarest Of Birds?  
User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3122 posts, RR: 14
Posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1686 times:
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Just a thought--if most major airlines are deferring deliveries for the time being, will the 737-900 remain a real rarity for the next few months? How many are flying now and how many will be delivered over the next 12 months? Thanks to any who can provide information.

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User currently offlineElal106 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 975 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1575 times:

time will tell!  Laugh out loud



User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16308 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1557 times:

Only Alaska, Continental & KLM have received their initial 739 orders yet. Korean has also ordered the aircraft.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineIahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3459 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1542 times:
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CO has seven of the type at the moment. Three more should be in service by year end ...... At least that was the plan before 9/11/01......


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User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

I think so at least for a year or so.


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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4006 posts, RR: 26
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1501 times:

What about the 767-400 ? If I am not mistaken (and correct me if I am) only CO and DL have taken delivery and are currently utilizing this bird.

Unless I have missed the news of other carriers that have recently taken delivery and have said 764s in service, would this not be the rarest bird flying at this time ?

Thomas



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16308 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1470 times:

You are correct...only DL and CO operate the 764. The only other carrier to order the 764 thus far is Kenya Airways.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineGregg From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

These bad times might be a good oportunity for birds like the 737-900 (since it is cheaper then the 757-200), or the 767-400 (since it is cheaper then the 777-200). They might be a little smaller, but might make more money for the airlines.

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 1387 times:
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Does Continental really have seven 739s already? Where are the photos of them in the database?!  Smile

User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 1380 times:

KLM has 2, maybe 3 by now. 4 were on order for delivery july, aug, sept and oct 2001.

Spotting any type of which there are so few is difficult. Ever waited for a paricular reg to turn up? You're always at the wrong runway or it is in maintenance that day...
If the airline has multiple hubs and moves aircraft around, things get more tricky still.

I was lucky to see the second KLM 739 while it was fitting out when the doors of the hangar were left open one day and I could peek in  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16308 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

I agree with Gregg....even in these adverse times, some airlines will be looking for new aircraft....the 739, 764 and the 717 offer specific payload/cost advantages that may be more favourable now than before Sep 11, depending on traffic requirements.




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1350 times:

But isn't there a limitation on the 737-900 that due to insufficient number of exits, it cannot carry more passengers than a 737-800? So it only makes sense if you have a lot of large business class seats.

That probably explains why the 737-900 is so unpopular - and why Southwest would never order one.


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1342 times:

KLM has them in single-class layout, economy only.
They are used on routes where a 737-800 does not have the capacity but a 767 is too large.



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16308 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1336 times:

Transwede is correct...the 739 is ltd to a max 189 pax...which limits its attractiveness to charter carriers. However, sked carriers with a business/first class section will still largely seat below the 189 limit.

If Boeing could reconfig/recert a 739 with more exits, it would become an attractive aircraft for Euro charter carriers.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1334 times:

739 : 189 pax
738 : 158 pax (in KLM layout)



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User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 1331 times:

Another problem for the 737-900 is that it competes against the established A321 - IMO a superior airplane. I also think charter airlines would prefer the 757-200 to the 737-900, due to the extra range.

So the 737-900 was probably ot a very good investment for Boeing.


User currently offlineCOAatIAH From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 1271 times:

I just stepped off one about 3 hours ago. DEN-IAH Climbed up and out of DEN in a flash! I'm used to the MD-80 climbouts from Denver. We stepped up from FL330 to FL370 while en-route, close to the CO/OK border, and the flight information display on the overhead screens said we were climbing at about 1100-1300 feet per minute on the step-up. It was a really smooth and awesome ride. Especially from seat 5F in First Class.

User currently offlineLj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 1262 times:

JWenting, you're not correct. KLM's 739's have both business (rows 1-10 = 47 seats) and economy class (rows 11-33 = 142 seats) .

BTW KLM has 3 B737-900's (PH-BXO/P/R).

Regards
Laurens


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