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User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 1085 times:

For the whole article http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A61164-2001Oct2.html

Main points:

-Initial Service to BOS, LGA, ATL, ORD, DFW, MSP, EWR and adding 10 more cities in 3 weeks
-Two security checkpoints: Terminal and at the Gate
-"One-plus" carry-on rule
-Photo ID at gate
-Skymarshals
-Only designated flight crews can fly to DCA & manditory preflight screening
-Only can use selected gates at hub airports flying into DCA
-"Straight In approach, Straight out takeoff" on north side
-Flights 7am-10pm only
-No more than 156 pax (no more 757's)

Whats your take on these new measures. Two of them are definete B.S. The 156 pax rule makes no sense. 757's carry generally 172-192 pax, but how does that affect security and prevent hijackers? Is it because they don't want to see 757's because that was the type that hit the Pentagon. Also, why is the airport limited to 7am-10pm? Time of the day does little to dictate security matters.

Plus, wouldn't a secure cockpit door and skymarshals eliminate 99.99% of the 0.000000001% chance of hijackings?

Opinions on the security? Anyone?

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User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 1070 times:

NO MORE 757'S! THAT MEANS, NO MORE ME SPOTTING TRIPS TO DCA FOR ME!!!!!!!!!!!


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User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 1061 times:

Don't worry B757fan, those pics weren't all the great anyway.


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User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 1052 times:

Is it just me or do the shuttles have 150-156 seats on board(US, DL)?

User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

I got the impression that most of the new rules were not permanent and could be rescinded later. Most of them, imo, are nonsense.

As for the 10:00pm cutoff, there weren't very many flights arriving after that, the last as I recall arriving around midnight, but cutting flights off at that time isn't going to make the place any safer. The correct response is in improved screening, sky marshals, and bolted cockpit doors.

I've seen diagrams of the new approaches in the Washington Post, and southbound approaches appear to me to come closer to the Pentagon than they used to. Flights were restricted to over water, but now-according to the diagram in the Post-they come over land almost above the Pentagon.
Another restriction I just learned of is that runway 15-33 will be closed to NW departures and SW landings. This runway is used primarily by the "puddle jumpers", although some jets do land on 33 ocassionally. I can see the sense in that, as a plane taking off on 15 could be over the Pentagon in a minute or two, although I can't see a "puddle jumper" doing a great deal of damage to anything.

I hope to see the 757 make a comeback at DCA in the future, along with increased flights. I don't think banning it serves any purpose, other than to prevent those at the Pentagon the stress of seeing one go by.

Personally, I'll be glad to see DCA reopen, and hopefully I'll be using it again soon. But I still don't have a great deal of confidence in the FAA.



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User currently offlineStretch 8 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 2568 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 18 hours ago) and read 1036 times:

I think the 7-10 p.m. restriction is a nod to residents who live nearby, who have bitched for years about a/c noise regardless of Stage 3 aircraft. My question: why was DTW not included? I have heard from sources (FAA) that the Government is concerned about security lapses at Metro.


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