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Palisadoes Rd...Jamaican Thread 48  
User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14782 times:
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Welcome Guys,



For this thread we will highlight KIN..With the recent increase in services, we will now glance at airlines and routes served to KIN..


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/189oUKJAMAICAKINGSTONNORMANMANLEYINTAIRPORTMKJP_zps0c48fece.jpg

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Delta.Daily A320 to ATL.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/delta-airlines-address_zps3f874825.jpg

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AC Rouge..4 weekly A319 to http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1280px-Air_Canada_Rouge_A319_zpsba2007b8.png

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WS..2 weekly B737 to http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/westjet21_zps52e53364.jpg

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B6.. 2 Daily KIN-FLL and daily JFK services.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/Embraer_190_JetBlue_Clouds_zps036e9ab8.jpg

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AA..3 daily B738 to MIA..



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Aerogaviota..2 weekly ATR4 service to HAV via SCU.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/img0797cl_zps6ce291e8.jpg

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KX..8 weekly B737 to GCM..

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/Cayman_Airways_Boeing_737-300_OJEV_zps53c77867.jpg


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Air Turks and Caicos soon to be re branded Inter Caribbean Airways..

2 daily KIN-MBJ-KIN.
4 weekly PLS
3 weekly SDQ.


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Insel Air..2 weekly CUR..
MD83/F50.



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Sunrise Airways..Has done charters, but will revert to scheduled flights to PAP..



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BW

18 weekly to JFK, 9 of these flights operate via MBJ..
3 weekly to YYZ..
2 weekly to MCO.
9 weekly to FLL.
3 weekly to NAS.
7 weekly to POS. Breakdown: 2 weekly nonstop, 1 weekly one stop in BGI, 2 weekly with stops in ANU and BGI and 2 weekly with a stop in SXM..



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CM
3 weekly to PTY.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/CM_Hubdelasamericas_zpsa018e25c.jpg


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BA

3 weekly to LGW.



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OJ

4 weekly to JFK
1 weekly to

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NK..Seasonal service restarts in May @ 3 weekly..

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/spiritair_zps0503637d.jpg
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More updates from old thread..

GreenHeart Soars..Jamaican Thread 47 (by hummingbird Sep 17 2013 in Civil Aviation)

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/189aUKJAMAICAKINGSTONNORMANMANLEYINTAIRPORTMKJP_zpsfcd595b0.jpg

[Edited 2014-01-27 13:42:20]


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User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3257 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14751 times:

Great bit of work there Hummingbird, KIN sure has a great range of air services. One thing though, don't BW also serve YYZ from KIN?

Best regards and all the best for 2014.
Trintocan.



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User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14743 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):

HB, SouthWest announced that they will begin international service in the summer and they will be flyin to MBJ.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/so...airlines-to-fly-to-jamaica-in-july


Awesome line up for KIN.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 14729 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 206):
I keep being imrpessed by all the flights to/from MBJ, that is just fantastic to see. I think MBJ is one of the largest and most important tourist destinations in the Caribbean along the same line as PUJ, CUN (and AUA to a lesser extend). Just great.

I really wish to go spotting in MBJ some day on the weekends during peak holiday season so I get most of the traffic on camera

Most North American traffic will arrive on or before 3pm..After 4pm, you tend to see more widebodies..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 205):
On behalf of which tour company will LL be operating these flights for ? Impressive line up. Good to see service from MSY and CVG into MBJ. ATL is a bit of a surprise to me though as both DL and FL/SW are entrenched on it. But additional service is always welcome.

They will operate the flights on behalf of Vacation Express..

I'm wondering, did AA ever operate seasonal BNA-MBJ service when they had a hub there ?

Am not sure, possibly a one time charter..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 205):
A blood bath seem to be on the horizon where the GEO-JFK sector is concerned. Will be interesting to see how it all play out. Too many seats on that route definately doesn't bode well for OJ indeed as it pertains to yields.

Agree..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 205):
Not a bad beef up of service from Canada by C6 into MBJ. Hopefully the trend will continue if demand requires it.

I think they will operate these flights on TS's behalf..

Quoting guyanam (Reply 204):
If JFK GEO gets too many seats that wil hurt OJ, as TS has the travel wholesaler business which will feed their flights. BW will keep most of the market simply because people are accustomed to them. That is unless they mess up and drop the nonstops, or leave bags behind on a routine basis.

I guess with these added seats, no chance DL will return to GEO...

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 207):
Close to 300 seater is being considered to facilitate combined loads to JFK via KIN. Could this be an A330-300? Connections from North America and elsewhere has enhanced load factors on KIN - GEO route

Am not surprised..The B763 is an ideal aircraft..These airframes are going cheap at the moment..

Quoting trintocan (Reply 1):
Great bit of work there Hummingbird, KIN sure has a great range of air services. One thing though, don't BW also serve YYZ from KIN?

Best regards and all the best for 2014.
Trintocan.

Thanks, correction made..Am hearing rumors of Conviasa to KIN..

Quoting jm079 (Reply 2):
HB, SouthWest announced that they will begin international service in the summer and they will be flyin to MBJ.

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/so...airlines-to-fly-to-jamaica-in-july


It was announced late last year by the Tourism Minister..They will replace all FL flights as the brand will be no longer exist in 2015..
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DOT STATS JULY 2013

KIN

BW

FLL-KIN
6160-5147 84%

KIN-FLL
6160-6036 98%

JFK-KIN
6160-5760 94%

KIN-JFK
6006-5912 98%

MCO-KIN
1386-1148 83%

KIN-MCO
1386-1351 97%


AA

MIA-KIN
18622-16807 90%..

KIN-MIA
18472-17885 97%


B6

FLL-KIN
6200-5301 86%

KIN-FLL
6200-5695 92%

JFK-KIN
9300-8453 91%

KIN-JFK
9300-8567 92%

NK

FLL-KIN
2465-1888 77%

KIN-FLL
2465-2394 97%



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 14712 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):

The arrival of Travelspan puts an end to DL resuming its JFK GEO route as there is too much yield dilution. They cant stop TS as it is a US based entity.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 14678 times:
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DOT STATS JULY 2013
MBJ

BW

FLL-MBJ
4774-4291 90%

MBJ-FLL
4774-4619 97%

JFK-MBJ
5852-5720 98%

MBJ-JFK
6006-5632 94%


AA

DFW-MBJ
5246-4827 92%

MBJ-DFW
5096-4862 95%

MIA-MBJ
14928-13797 92%

MBJ-MIA
14922-14062 94%

ORD-MBJ
592-533 90%

MBJ-ORD
444-442 99%


B6

JFK-MBJ
9300-8662 93%

MBJ-JFK
9300-8869 95%

MCO-MBJ
3550-2966 84%

MBJ-MCO
3450-3096 90%


US

CLT-MBJ
17784-15691 89%

MBJ-CLT
17784-15606 88%

PHL-MBJ
11814-10555 89%

MBJ-PHL
11814-10500 89%



DL

ATL-MBJ
21825-19521 89%

MBJ-ATL
22009-20286 92%

JFK-MBJ
4959-4634 93%

MBJ-JFK
4957-4614 93%


UA

EWR-MBJ
3537-3303 93%

MBJ-EWR
3370-3212 95%

IAD-MBJ
616-536 87%

MBJ-IAD
674-632 94%

IAH-MBJ
5457-4975 91%

MBJ-IAH
5457-5148 94%

ORD-MBJ
674-623 92%

F9

ORD-MBJ
672-618 92%

MBJ-ORD
672-630 94%

STL-MBJ
1242-1047 84%

MBJ-STL
1242-1057 85%

NK

FLL-MBJ
3770-3425 91%

MBJ-FLL
3770-3612 96%


FL


ATL-MBJ
4247-4006 94%

MBJ-ATL
4110-3941 96%

BWI-MBJ
8494-8222 97%

MBJ-BWI
8357-7951 95%

MCO-MBJ
4247-3907 92%

MBJ-MCO
4247-4051 95%

MDW-MBJ
2466-2376 96%

MBJ-MDW
2466-2371 96%

SY

DFW-MBJ
1458-928 64%

MBJ-DFW
1458-995 68%

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MONTEGO BAY, Jamaica -- As part of our ongoing coverage of the 2014 Caribbean Travel Marketplace, Travel Agent learned of Delta Vacations' top 10 Caribbean vacation destinations for 2014.

“Whether it’s an excursion to escape the cold, a romantic getaway, a spring break trip or a family summer vacation, these world-class destinations have lots to offer a wide variety of travelers, and they represent tremendous opportunities for our travel agency partners,” said MLT Vacations President John Caldwell in a written statement.

RELATED: 2014 Caribbean Travel Marketplace Kicks Off

The list represents Delta Vacations Caribbean destinations with the most growth based on room-nights booked from 2009 to 2013. In all, Delta Vacations has seen an increase in booked room-nights of approximately 250 percent in these vacation destinations.

http://www.travelagentcentral.com/ca...bbean-islands-2014-slideshow-44236

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n order to maximize value for travel agents’ customers, Travel Impressions reports it is taking to the skies with Dedicated Vacation Flights to Jamaica, Mexico, Costa Rica and the Dominican Republic with service via AeroMexico, AirTran Airways, Frontier Airlines and JetBlue.

Travel Impressions’ Dedicated Vacation Flights out of JFK in New York City feature daily service to Montego Bay.

Boston:
Twice-weekly service to Jamaica on Tuesdays and Saturdays

http://www.travelagentcentral.com/do...a-mexico-costa-rica-and-dominican-

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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14610 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
For this thread we will highlight KIN..With the recent increase in services, we will now glance at airlines and routes served to KIN..
Quoting jm079 (Reply 2):
Awesome line up for KIN.
Quoting trintocan (Reply 1):
Great bit of work there

Great photos there to complement Thread 48. Especially the night photo of Runway 12/30 and the entire airport complex. Exciting times ahead for KIN with the increased service.

Quoting hummingbird (Thread starter):
Delta.Daily A320 to ATL.

They are using the A319 at the moment.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
Am hearing rumors of Conviasa to KIN..

Have been hearing that for some time now as well.



greenheart
User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 14391 times:
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Am not surprised at this news... Mr Lindsay was a fleet manager at Emirates..

Lindsay said countries were now coming to JCAA requesting its services in training air traffic controllers. He noted that the authority recently trained four air traffic controllers for the Turks and Caicos Islands and 10 from Haiti were to arrive in the island for training shortly.

Lindsay also noted that Jamaica's aviation industry stands to benefit significantly from the anticipated logistics hub.

He said they are already making plans to benefit from this initiative by expanding and developing the facilities at Vernamfield Air Base in Clarendon and Ian Fleming Airport in St Mary.

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20140128/lead/lead4.html

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In the OAG thread, it mentioned DL will operate 5 flights into MBJ from Atlanta eff July ..

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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 6):

Thanks... Hopefully we will see SW in KIN from FLL in 2017...



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 14308 times:

As member airjamaica said, that is a nice photo of the airport in KIN at night. Is that a miniature model of the airport in KIN or a real photo of the airport)?

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 3):
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 207):
Close to 300 seater is being considered to facilitate combined loads to JFK via KIN. Could this be an A330-300? Connections from North America and elsewhere has enhanced load factors on KIN - GEO route

Am not surprised..The B763 is an ideal aircraft..These airframes are going cheap at the moment..

Yes, I also said that the 767 would be better for them but let's see what will happen.


Cheers,

A388


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 14279 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):

Looks like a Flight Simulator rendering of KIN.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14223 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 7):
In the OAG thread, it mentioned DL will operate 5 flights into MBJ from Atlanta eff July ..

I assume one of those flights will RON in MBJ.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 7):
Hopefully we will see SW in KIN from FLL in 2017...

We will see if they will end up serving KIN in the future.

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
Is that a miniature model of the airport in KIN or a real photo of the airport)?
Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 9):
Looks like a Flight Simulator rendering of KIN.

On closer inspection it does appear to be a Flight Simulator rendering.



Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
I also said that the 767 would be better for them but let's see what will happen.

As much as I prefer airbus aircraft, if the boeing is more convenient and cost effective for them to operate, then I am all for it as well.



greenheart
User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7540 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14125 times:

The increased viloence in Jamaica doesn't seem to be hurting visitors . I watched a video on Jamaica ,and it was ugly.


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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 14113 times:
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At a recent press conference, Dr Phillips mentioned, both international airports will be further expanded..

Quote:
while the two international airports - in Kingston and in Mongeto Bay - are to be further expanded.
http://rjrnewsonline.com/local/forma...nds-port-likely-this-year-phillips

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
As member airjamaica said, that is a nice photo of the airport in KIN at night. Is that a miniature model of the airport in KIN or a real photo of the airport)?

Its a computer generated model..

Quoting A388 (Reply 8):
Yes, I also said that the 767 would be better for them but let's see what will happen.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
As much as I prefer airbus aircraft, if the boeing is more convenient and cost effective for them to operate, then I am all for it as well.

Based on my observations, I think, they will acquire a B767 and expand the current schedule to JFK and YYZ..

B767s lease rates are becoming more attractive and I know they will grasp this opportunity..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
I assume one of those flights will RON in MBJ.

I assume they will operate a mixture of MD88s and B757s..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 10):
We will see if they will end up serving KIN in the future.

They mentioned serving 25 international destinations from FLL..I see KIN and MBJ as possible destinations..



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13992 times:

Are you referring SW as in Southwest Airlines? If AirTran serves MBJ now then WN will fly to MBJ as they own AirTran. Eventually the AirTran brand will disappear.

A388


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13986 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 13):

Yes..Eff Jul14, all current Air Tran routes to MBJ, will be flown on SW's metal...


But, late last year, SW broke news of plans to create a Latin American hub in FLL eff 2017..

It's part of Southwest's plan to make Fort Lauderdale one of its bases for international flights. The low-cost carrier envisions adding 25 international flights a day from Fort Lauderdale to destinations in Caribbean and Latin America, the Sun Sentinel reports. Southwest currently operates about 70 daily departures from the airport.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ale-international-gateway/3989343/



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 13909 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 12):
They mentioned serving 25 international destinations from FLL..I see KIN and MBJ as possible destinations..

If SW decides to operate to both KIN and MBJ from FLL, it would be very interesting. On certain days KIN would have flights to FLL on B6, BW, NK, OJ* and SW. Another looming ' blood bath ' on the horizon, which would be beneficial for the traveller where options/prices are concerned. Eager to see how it will play out.

* Where OJ is concerned, it is just a matter of when and not if FLL will be started.


On a different note, where the AA/US merger is concerned, I am wondering if AA will eventually scale back CLT-Caribbean and PHL-Caribbean operations in favour of MIA, similar to what they did with their JFK-Caribbean ops. Then again probably not, as on many of those routes, they would be the only carrier on it, unlike JFK where they have B6 to contend with to the Caribbean. We will see.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 13757 times:
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I guess this justifies a widebody aircraft..

Jamaican- based newcomer, Fly Jamaica, has embarked on major moves this year, as it teams up with local tourist and tourist-related organizations in a bid to sell Guyana as a major tourist destination. The airline has set its sights on this month%u2019s Mashramani celebrations to kick- start the first set of activities for the year.

Teaming up with Head of the Guyana Tourism Authority, Harold Singh, the company recently held a special meeting to highlight plans for the country to boast its influx of tourists with a spat of cultural and national events.
Public Relations Officer, Nadine Hing told reporters that the airline is looking to go %u2018all out%u2019 in February since the company is not only ecstatic about the planned activities for Mashramani, but will also be celebrating its first anniversary, while its parent company, Wings Aviation, will be celebrating 30 years in business.
Hing said %u201CWe have teamed up with a number of designers and a band in promoting Guyana as a tourism destination for Mashramani.%u201D Hing highlighted that the company has on board at least two costume bands, one coming out of New York so as to reach the various targeted groups.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/20...-eyes-locals-in-tourism-promotion/

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interCaribbean Airways (JY, Providenciales) has postponed plans to operate its first domestic Jamaican flights ch-aviation schedule data shows. The double-daily flights from Kingston Norman Manley to Montego Bay were to have launched on January 20. As of this posting, the Turks & Caicos Islands operator has not yet received the necessary approvals from the Jamaican authorities but is hopeful it will receive them within the next couple of weeks according to its CEO Trevor Sadler.
http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...ones-planned-domestic-jamaican-ops

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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15):
If SW decides to operate to both KIN and MBJ from FLL, it would be very interesting. On certain days KIN would have flights to FLL on B6, BW, NK, OJ* and SW. Another looming ' blood bath ' on the horizon, which would be beneficial for the traveller where options/prices are concerned. Eager to see how it will play out.

I don't think NK will be around for this battle..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15):
* Where OJ is concerned, it is just a matter of when and not if FLL will be started.

I expect then to start services once the second runway is completed..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15):

On a different note, where the AA/US merger is concerned, I am wondering if AA will eventually scale back CLT-Caribbean and PHL-Caribbean operations in favour of MIA, similar to what they did with their JFK-Caribbean ops. Then again probably not, as on many of those routes, they would be the only carrier on it, unlike JFK where they have B6 to contend with to the Caribbean. We will see.

Based on growth in our tourism industry , I expect them to add more services to MBJ from PHL..



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 13683 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 16):

I do believe that they need JFK-GEO-JFK nonstop to capture substantial market share. I am hearing more and more acquaintances using their service. Apparently National Geographic named Guyana as one of the must see places for 2014, so I think OJ is joining in on the potential tourism here.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 13636 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):

Well the US DOT isn't going to allow OJ to do JFK GEO JFK, even though its obvious that DL will have long ago lost interest in that route, with the arrival of Travelspan and its lower fares.


I wouldn't read too much into that National Geographic. Conde Naste said the same thing a decade ago, and no results. Here is the problem. Some one reads the article and gets excited. The try to find a reasonably priced package (as eco/adventrures must be) and they don't find anything priced reasonably. They then look at the # 2 country, which is ready for them, and so off they go.

If OJ can fill a plane on the KIN GEO sector (tell Jamaicans that there is nuff nuff gold in Guyana...LOL) they can then profitably do a KIN GEO JFK, giving them nonstop in both directions.

[Edited 2014-02-03 16:07:35]

[Edited 2014-02-03 16:08:41]

User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13552 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 18):

Someone posted on this thread that loads were up on KIN-GEO, so maybe they will be able to do KIN-GEO-JFK soon. National Geographic mentioned tour operator Wilderness Explorers, so maybe things are different now. Georgetown needs lots of work, but the interior resorts are great, with Rockview Lodge getting accolades, and Iwokrama, especially the canopy walk.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (10 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13548 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14):
Quoting A388 (Reply 13):


Yes..Eff Jul14, all current Air Tran routes to MBJ, will be flown on SW's metal...

Great thanks hummingbird, I didn't know about their plans from FLL. That is great, I'm sure CUR will also be on their radar to compete against AA's twice daily MIA-CUR nonstop flights. Time will tell...

A388


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 13503 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):
I do believe that they need JFK-GEO-JFK nonstop to capture substantial market share
Quoting guyanam (Reply 18):
If OJ can fill a plane on the KIN GEO sector (tell Jamaicans that there is nuff nuff gold in Guyana...LOL) they can then profitably do a KIN GEO JFK, giving them nonstop in both directions.
Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 19):
Someone posted on this thread that loads were up on KIN-GEO, so maybe they will be able to do KIN-GEO-JFK soon.

Guess it will all depend on how well the KIN-GEO segment perform and develop over time. But yes, the only way they will be able to do GEO-JFK nonstop, is if they route the flight KIN-GEO-JFK, as '' Uncle Sam '' is steadfast on their decision where this topic is concerned.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):
I am hearing more and more acquaintances using their service.

What feedback do you get from them where price and in flight meal service is concerned on OJ ?

Quoting A388 (Reply 20):
I didn't know about their plans from FLL. That is great, I'm sure CUR will also be on their radar to compete against AA's twice daily MIA-CUR nonstop flights. Time will tell...

I am wondering if B6 is also eyeing FLL-CUR as they too have big expansion plans for their FLL hub in the future. Not sure about JFK-CUR though. Did any carrier ever operate nonstop on that route before in the past ? ALM used to serve JFK from CUR back in the day, but I think it made a stop somewhere else in the Caribbean on the way ( ? )



greenheart
User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 13408 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 21):
What feedback do you get from them where price and in flight meal service is concerned on OJ ?

All good stuff, no complaints to this point. Everyone I spoke with is happy with the service and the food, some even said they did not mind the stopover/flight time. One person complained that they were not happy with the time they spent going through security, but that is the same everywhere.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13371 times:
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Eff Oct, SW will replace FL on the MDW-MBJ sector. Also, there will be an increase from 4 weekly to daily..
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Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):
I do believe that they need JFK-GEO-JFK nonstop to capture substantial market share. I am hearing more and more acquaintances using their service

They can possibly add more JFK-GEO services, but GEO-JFK will not happen unless there is a new ruling from The DOT..

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 17):
Apparently National Geographic named Guyana as one of the must see places for 2014, so I think OJ is joining in on the potential tourism here.

The potential is there for growth.

Quoting A388 (Reply 20):
Great thanks hummingbird, I didn't know about their plans from FLL. That is great, I'm sure CUR will also be on their radar to compete against AA's twice daily MIA-CUR nonstop flights. Time will tell...

I see CUR as a future destination...

BTW..Any news on how Insel Air is performing to KIN..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 21):
Guess it will all depend on how well the KIN-GEO segment perform and develop over time. But yes, the only way they will be able to do GEO-JFK nonstop, is if they route the flight KIN-GEO-JFK, as '' Uncle Sam '' is steadfast on their decision where this topic is concerned.

I have been monitoring the activities of OJ since December.I hope they are able to secure another frame for the summer as a single craft will not work..



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13360 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 23):
Quoting A388 (Reply 20):
Great thanks hummingbird, I didn't know about their plans from FLL. That is great, I'm sure CUR will also be on their radar to compete against AA's twice daily MIA-CUR nonstop flights. Time will tell...

I see CUR as a future destination...

BTW..Any news on how Insel Air is performing to KIN..

Thanks hummingbird. Unfortunately I don't know how Insel Air performs on the route  

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (10 months 2 weeks 4 days ago) and read 13373 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 23):

Yes their facebook has many complaints about the delays due to the single aircraft operation. Because of this their recovery after snow storms is slower than BW. I am not sure if being a very small carrier also hurts them in getting landing slots when there are weather related restrictions. BW is now I think ranked around # 8 in terms of its passenger traffic into JFK. Its landings should also rank high, given that they use mainly small 738 equipment. So they should have some level of piority.

As an aside BW must be the biggest airline into NYC that nobody ever heard of, as aside from Caribbean , they are even less known than BWIA was. Most people will be shocked to learn that they are actually a major carrier into JFK. I think the 3rd largest foreign carrier behind BA and AF, with around 700k passengers.

The summer and the fall seasons also generate severe rainstorms in the NY area so OJ needs to be better prepared for that, than they apparently were over the last several snow storms. A 2nd plane gies them more operatioinal flexibility. I am beginning to wonder if the delay is due to financial issues, as the track record for Caribbean carriers isnt good. If even BW and LIU, state supported, almost lost their planes last year I can only wonder about an independent airline like OJ.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13341 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 22):
All good stuff, no complaints to this point. Everyone I spoke with is happy with the service and the food, some even said they did not mind the stopover/flight time. One person complained that they were not happy with the time they spent going through security, but that is the same everywhere.

That is good to know. Hopefully they will be able to meet/exceed passenger expectation in both Guyana and Jamaica going forward.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 23):
Eff Oct, SW will replace FL on the MDW-MBJ sector. Also, there will be an increase from 4 weekly to daily..

Not bad at all. So the competition will heat up in Chicagoland where flights to MBJ are concerned. UA and AA from ORD and SW from MDW. Looking forward to view their colourful metal at Sangster. And maybe at KIN someday.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 23):
I have been monitoring the activities of OJ since December.I hope they are able to secure another frame for the summer as a single craft will not work..
Quoting guyanam (Reply 25):
Yes their facebook has many complaints about the delays due to the single aircraft operation.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 25):
The summer and the fall seasons also generate severe rainstorms in the NY area so OJ needs to be better prepared for that, than they apparently were over the last several snow storms. A 2nd plane gies them more operatioinal flexibility.

An additional aircraft is desperately needed. I am concerned about the limitations with operating a single metal, particularly during peak periods when there is increased demand for travel, and unfortunately two of the main busy seasons have some severe weather conditions at times in both the YYZ and JFK markets.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 25):
I am beginning to wonder if the delay is due to financial issues, as the track record for Caribbean carriers isnt good. If even BW and LIU, state supported, almost lost their planes last year I can only wonder about an independent airline like OJ.

OJ have been quite silent of late re aircraft # 2. Based on previous announcements, I was expecting to see it operational already. Hopefully we will get updates soon on the status of those plans. Wouldn't be nice for them to loose the loyalty they have built up so far because of the challenges a single aircraft operation pose.



greenheart
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 27, posted (10 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 13308 times:

Guys let's not confuse Air Namibia with Southwest Airlines  

A388


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 13190 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 27):
Guys let's not confuse Air Namibia with Southwest Airlines

Lol. The correct IATA code for Southwest Airlines is indeed WN and not SW, with SWA being their designated ICAO code. I find the 3 character ICAO codes easier to remember than the 2 character IATA codes. Probably because I am more familiar with them from ATC days. Some of those IATA codes are '' miles '' away from the actual carrier name for obvious reasons.


Both the operation of OJ, and influx of Russian visitors resulted in increased earnings for air catering company Goddard Enterprises..............


'' Over 10,000 Russians visited the island following the set up of direct flights in 2013.

That market represents the fastest growth area albeit growing from a small base.

Fly Jamaica became the latest local-based airline to offer international flights effective January 2013.

It operates one Boeing 757 aircraft and is a partnership between Guyanese Paul Ronald Reece and Jamaican shareholders including Lloyd Tai. "


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...boosts-Goddard-s-earnings_15962889


Positive spin offs there for Goddard.


The Caribbean Aviation Training Centre ( CATC ) is aiming to capitalize on the absence of Air Jamaica Express and Jamaica Air Shuttle for cross island travel...............


'' While the flight school %u2014 which has had a charter licence since inception %u2014 provided charter service on the odd occasion in the past, it was lured to begin offering regular services partly due to a void left in the domestic air travel market following exits by carriers such as Air Jamaica Express and more recently Jamaica Air Shuttle. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...c-air-travel--help-pilots_15726644


Interesting. Good that more options will be made available for travelers to choose from.



greenheart
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 29, posted (10 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 13172 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 24):
Thanks hummingbird. Unfortunately I don't know how Insel Air performs on the route

Loads have been hit and miss…..some days quite full…other days absolutely empty.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13135 times:
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DL has applied to The JCAA to add ExpressJet service to the current schedule. The flight will operate an ATL-MBJ-ATL rotation.

On Sat, we will see 5 DL flights from ATL. 4* MD88s and 1CRJ9.


CRJ900
Eff Feb 14..

Delta 4949* Dep ATL 5:34pm
Arr MBJ 8:26pm


Eff Feb15

Delta 4948* Dep MBJ 9:00am
Arr ATL 11:58am

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Quoting A388 (Reply 24):
Thanks hummingbird. Unfortunately I don't know how Insel Air performs on the route
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 29):
Loads have been hit and miss…..some days quite full…other days absolutely empty.

Thanks. I see where, they have scheduled the F50 on the route. I also see where they are expected to receive some F70s, hopefully,they will appear in KIN..

Quoting guyanam (Reply 25):
A 2nd plane gies them more operatioinal flexibility. I am beginning to wonder if the delay is due to financial issues, as the track record for Caribbean carriers isnt good.

I doubt, its a financial issue..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
Not bad at all. So the competition will heat up in Chicagoland where flights to MBJ are concerned. UA and AA from ORD and SW from MDW. Looking forward to view their colourful metal at Sangster. And maybe at KIN someday.

Also, F9, if their new owners decide to continue with the Apple Vacations contract.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26):
An additional aircraft is desperately needed. I am concerned about the limitations with operating a single metal, particularly during peak periods when there is increased demand for travel, and unfortunately two of the main busy seasons have some severe weather conditions at times in both the YYZ and JFK markets.

Agree..The schedule is back on track, but their two last services to YYZ suffered major delays..

Quoting A388 (Reply 27):
Guys let's not confuse Air Namibia with Southwest Airlines A388

My bad, lol..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 28):
nteresting. Good that more options will be made available for travelers to choose from.

I agree. Seems like a sustainable business model. I hope one day, we will see an upgrade of all major Aerodromes with services linking both internationall airports..



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12928 times:

US Embassy in Guyana warns its citizens to avoid CAL out of Georgetown on Monday Feb 10th to Wednesday Feb 12th.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-Airlines-potential-threats.html

According to the Trinidad Express it is based on a call out of Barbados.

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...lights-under-threat-244656041.html

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 32, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12916 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 30):
Quoting A388 (Reply 24):
Thanks hummingbird. Unfortunately I don't know how Insel Air performs on the route
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 29):
Loads have been hit and miss…..some days quite full…other days absolutely empty.

Thanks. I see where, they have scheduled the F50 on the route. I also see where they are expected to receive some F70s, hopefully,they will appear in KIN..

Thanks Yellowtail. As for the Fokker 70's, I understand they will be going to their subsidiary in Aruba, Insel Air Aruba so I'm not sure whether they will be send to Jamaica. I can imagine CUR will see them as I imagine the maintenance will done in CUR.


As for the Southwest Airlines IATA code, no worries. Everyone can make a mistake, it is part of life  

A388


User currently offlinegeorgiabill From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 12892 times:
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Has Fly Jamaica announced what it intends to acquire for their 2nd aircraft? Another 757 or 767? Would they consider 737's or A320 aircraft?

Speaking of Insel now the the A320NEO and 737Max being sold and likely NG and CEO aircraft being returned to lessors or offered for sale has Insel started to look into replacing their MD-80's with newer aircraft?


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (10 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 12879 times:
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Fly Jamaica's has cancelled its GEO-KIN-JFK service, that should have departed this morning..

Fly Jamaica regrets to advise that the following flights:

OJ150 GEO %u2013 KIN; OJ121 KIN %u2013 JFK and OJ120 JFK %u2013 KIN, 10th February, 2014 are cancelled due to technical difficulties.

Alternative arrangements are being made to accommodate our passengers.

We sincerely apologise for this inconvenience and thank you for your patience and understanding.

For further information please contact our reservation centres:-
http://www.fly-jamaica.com/articles/...lternative-arrangements-being-made

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 31):
US Embassy in Guyana warns its citizens to avoid CAL out of Georgetown on Monday Feb 10th to Wednesday Feb 12th.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...an-Airlines-potential-threats.html

According to the Trinidad Express it is based on a call out of Barbados.

Not good news. This means increased security for US bound flights leaving GEO.

Quoting A388 (Reply 32):
As for the Southwest Airlines IATA code, no worries. Everyone can make a mistake, it is part of life

A388

Lol.

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 33):
Has Fly Jamaica announced what it intends to acquire for their 2nd aircraft? Another 757 or 767? Would they consider 737's or A320 aircraft?

Last we heard, they were looking at a widebody, one that seats over 300 passengers.

Based on their business model, I assume they will look at 737s..Its only a guess whether they will acquire classics or NGs.



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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 12745 times:
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Reliable sources have reported that Lloyd Tai and Christine Steele are no longer affiliated with OJ. Can anyone confirm? They have relinguished all ties with the CEO.
Incidentally, their First anniversary as a launched airline is valentines day.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 12724 times:
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Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 35):


I saw where the aircraft was ferried to KIN from GEO last night.Today's flight from KIN-YYZ - GEO is cancelled..



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 12692 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 36):
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 35):

This doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Private airlines in the Caribbean don't have a good track record of surviving.


User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12682 times:
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This was brewing for months, this is one of the reasons why a/c#2 has been constantly been delayed. This could signal the end of OJ as management disputes will affect what was once a healthy customer base and this a/c cannot fly to USA if reg'd in GEO.

User currently offlineilanbwoy From Jamaica, joined Feb 2009, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12619 times:

Whats up everybody...long time no post here. I still read almost daily though.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 37):

Agreed.

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 35):

it is confirmed...they are no longer with OJ. Steele was since last month and Tai last week. This sounds like a difference in philosophy to me.

As an FYI, Dl 383/384 ATL-KIN is not doing bad at all. I was skeptical about the new schedule that kicked in the first week of january, but the loads average between 60 - 80% both ways daily. So its working for now. Lets see what happens. I think it is here to stay for good this time though. Delta is all about money and with an average for of minimum $500 from atlanta being charged by Atlanta to connect through Miami...it was a smart move for them to get in on the parade.

As far as the discussion earlier about connecting in atlanta...its a piece of cake if you are connecting. The long lines are a thing of the past since the new terminal opened in may 2012. The only bad thing is if u are a local and arrive in E at 1 of the far gates. Its a hump to get to F for processing. However, i tell people all the time. It beats the alternative of going through TSA in E and then taking train to the front of the airport and reclaiming your bags in the main terminal. So to all who have doubts, give ATL a chance. Just catch a flight that comes in after peak times. Fortunately all the jamaica flights come in off peak so its perfect. If u r coming from belize .your flight arrives at a good time for connecting also.

1 love.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12551 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 34):
Fly Jamaica's has cancelled its GEO-KIN-JFK service, that should have departed this morning..Fly Jamaica regrets to advise that the following flights:OJ150 GEO KIN; OJ121 KIN JFK and OJ120 JFK KIN, 10th February, 2014 are cancelled due to technical difficulties.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 36):
I saw where the aircraft was ferried to KIN from GEO last night.Today's flight from KIN-YYZ - GEO is cancelled..

Quite a lot of cancellations there. This one aircraft operation wont cut it at all if they are really serious about reliability and service.

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 35):
Reliable sources have reported that Lloyd Tai and Christine Steele are no longer affiliated with OJ. Can anyone confirm? They have relinguished all ties with the CEO.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 37):
This doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 38):
This was brewing for months, this is one of the reasons why a/c#2 has been constantly been delayed. This could signal the end of OJ as management disputes will affect what was once a healthy customer base and this a/c cannot fly to USA if reg'd in GEO.
Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
it is confirmed...they are no longer with OJ. Steele was since last month and Tai last week. This sounds like a difference in philosophy to me.

Don't like the look/sound of this at all. But let us see.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
Whats up everybody...long time no post here. I still read almost daily though.

Long time indeed.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
As an FYI, Dl 383/384 ATL-KIN is not doing bad at all. I was skeptical about the new schedule that kicked in the first week of january, but the loads average between 60 - 80% both ways daily. So its working for now. Lets see what happens. I think it is here to stay for good this time though. Delta is all about money and with an average for of minimum $500 from atlanta being charged by Atlanta to connect through Miami...it was a smart move for them to get in on the parade.

Good that DL's ATL-KIN flights are looks promising. Myself hope it will stick around this time.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
As far as the discussion earlier about connecting in atlanta...its a piece of cake if you are connecting. The long lines are a thing of the past since the new terminal opened in may 2012.

That is what I hear as well.


More on WN's ATL-MBJ, MCO-MBJ and BWI-MBJ service.................


'' Jamaica is set to welcome the start of non-stop service from Atlanta, Baltimore and Orlando this summer as Southwest Airlines will begin flying to Jamaica's Sangster International Airport (MBJ) in Montego Bay starting July 1.

From Atlanta and Orlando, the airline will operate daily service out of Hartsfield-Jackson International and Orlando International respectively to Montego Bay. The Baltimore/Washington route will operate twice daily from Baltimore Washington International into Montego Bay. The three routes were previously operated by AirTran Airways. ''


http://www.hospitalityjamaica.com/news3.html


Wasn't aware that BWI-MBJ will operate 2x daily.


Additional info on Intercaribbean Airways expansion plans which also includes Jamaica...................


'' INTERCARIBBEAN Airways will invest millions to execute its regional expansion that includes offering airlinks between Jamaica and the Latin Caribbean, according to management.

It's aimed at driving demand between Jamaica, Dominica Republic and Puerto Rico in additon to tapping into existing business and tourism linkages. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...ca-Latin-Caribbean-routes_16019062


Business interests will enjoy the convenience of not having to fly via MIA to get to DR and PR.



greenheart
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 41, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12521 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 37):
This doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Private airlines in the Caribbean don't have a good track record of surviving.
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 38):
This was brewing for months, this is one of the reasons why a/c#2 has been constantly been delayed. This could signal the end of OJ as management disputes will affect what was once a healthy customer base and this a/c cannot fly to USA if reg'd in GEO.

And there was so much confidence in their survival on they forum only a few months ago. Some were even predicting hoardes of Jamaicans flocking to GEO on holiday and vice versa. 
Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
If u r coming from belize .your flight arrives at a good time for connecting also.

Better yet, if you are coming from BZE the immigration hall is empty.

Actually I have found that the BZE-LAX flight also get a nice empty arrival hall at LAX.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 42, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12517 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 36):
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 35):


I saw where the aircraft was ferried to KIN from GEO last night.Today's flight from KIN-YYZ - GEO is cancelled..
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 41):
Quoting guyanam (Reply 37):
This doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Private airlines in the Caribbean don't have a good track record of surviving.

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 38):
This was brewing for months, this is one of the reasons why a/c#2 has been constantly been delayed. This could signal the end of OJ as management disputes will affect what was once a healthy customer base and this a/c cannot fly to USA if reg'd in GEO.


And there was so much confidence in their survival on they forum only a few months ago.

This is sad indeed, while I know that a one aircraft operation is very risky I was still looking forward to them receiving the 767 and with a new livery but this seems to be less realistic now.

In any case, I am glad I unexpectedly saw them when I was in KIN. I accepted the aircraft to be flying during my short stay there:



View Large View Medium
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Photo © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography




Cheers,

A388


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (10 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12470 times:
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ATLANTA, GA--(Marketwired - February 10, 2014) - Vacation Express recently announced new service to Jamaica from Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport (MSY). Service to Jamaica starts on May 17, 2014 and runs through June. The flight will be operated by Miami Air International using a B737-400 that seats 150 passengers. The plane has both main and first class cabins and all passengers will get a free first checked bag, snack and limited bar. Flights and vacation packages are offered through vacationexpress.com or by calling 800.309.4717.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/inclus...BmYm11NnUwBHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQ--

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 38):
This was brewing for months, this is one of the reasons why a/c#2 has been constantly been delayed. This could signal the end of OJ as management disputes will affect what was once a healthy customer base and this a/c cannot fly to USA if reg'd in GEO.
Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
it is confirmed...they are no longer with OJ. Steele was since last month and Tai last week. This sounds like a difference in philosophy to me.

Hopefully, they will work things out as they were growing their market share..

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):
I think it is here to stay for good this time though. Delta is all about money

I see them being around for a long time.. I would not be surprised to see their B757 in KIN for S14..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 40):
Quite a lot of cancellations there. This one aircraft operation wont cut it at all if they are really serious about reliability and service

There has been no flights since Sunday.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 40):
Good that DL's ATL-KIN flights are looks promising. Myself hope it will stick around this time.

Quoting ilanbwoy (Reply 39):

Agree..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 40):
Wasn't aware that BWI-MBJ will operate 2x daily.

It was 2 daily last summer. FL entry into the market has shown growth over the years..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 40):
It's aimed at driving demand between Jamaica, Dominica Republic and Puerto Rico in additon to tapping into existing business and tourism linkages. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...ca-Latin-Caribbean-routes_16019062


Business interests will enjoy the convenience of not having to fly via MIA to get to DR and PR.

Hopefully, they will be approved by The JCAA to start domestic services..I expect them to start GCM and a Cuban destination in the future..

Quoting A388 (Reply 42):
This is sad indeed, while I know that a one aircraft operation is very risky I was still looking forward to them receiving the 767 and with a new livery but this seems to be less realistic now.

Am hoping for the best..



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 44, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 12379 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 43):
Vacation Express recently announced new service to Jamaica from Louis Armstrong New Orleans International Airport (MSY). Service to Jamaica starts on May 17, 2014 and runs through June. The flight will be operated by Miami Air International using a B737-400 that seats 150 passengers.

Isn't vacation expressed owned by Sunwing. one would have thought that Sunwing would have provided the aircraft somehow



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12375 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 43):
Hopefully, they will work things out as they were growing their market share..
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 43):
There has been no flights since Sunday.

Strange enough I haven't heard anything in the media etc. regarding this issue. I notice they are making much of their 1 year anniversary on facebook. Hopefully they will be able to sort out whatever issues they have.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 44):
Isn't vacation expressed owned by Sunwing. one would have thought that Sunwing would have provided the aircraft somehow

Maybe the other frames in the WG fleet are all tied up in winter schedules all over and using Miami Air for some operation is necessary.



greenheart
User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 12367 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 44):
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 45):

I assume there are two factors ..

1.Regulatory issues..
2. Cost... Perhaps it's cheaper to use a North American based carrier based on the number of rotations scheduled for the period...

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 45):

Perhaps it's time for another trip to China to engage the Chinese, lol..
Would be a worthy investment on their part..



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (10 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 12326 times:
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Looks like Fly- Jamaica is looking to lease a larger aircraft and will boost their GEO- YYZ route..

At a presentation in the city last weekend, Roxanne Reece – one of the airline’s two directors – reflected on the first year and shared some of the plans for the carrier which started flying on February 14, 2013

The airline received its landing rights for Canada two months ago and made its inaugural non-stop flight from Toronto to Georgetown, Guyana last December 17.

“The last year has been extremely busy and challenging,” said Reece. “With any new operation, there are growing pains and hurdles which we overcame. The brutal winter in Canada and the United States has affected our schedule like all other airlines but what should not be lost is that we provided employment for nearly 130 people in Jamaica and Guyana and we are offering an authentic Caribbean experience once you fly with us.”

Reece, who has been in the aviation industry for almost three decades, said the airline plans to increase its non-stop service between Toronto to Georgetown. The airline currently flies once weekly, leaving on Tuesday afternoon and returning the following day.

http://sharenews.com/a-busy-challenging-year-for-fly-jamaica/



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 48, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 12222 times:

I just wonder if the apparent tiff between Reece and the Jamaican owners are because they think that he is over emphasizing GEO, especially if GEO is costly to serve, given the limitation on the JFK GEO route.

User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12137 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 46):
Perhaps it's time for another trip to China to engage the Chinese, lol..

Lol.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 47):
Looks like Fly- Jamaica is looking to lease a larger aircraft and will boost their GEO- YYZ route..

Well it appears as if its business as usual. Atleast for the time being.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 48):
I just wonder if the apparent tiff between Reece and the Jamaican owners are because they think that he is over emphasizing GEO, especially if GEO is costly to serve, given the limitation on the JFK GEO route.

Curious about the reason they are at odds, as both the GEO and KIN markets are important to OJ's operation. Also I am wondering which South American destination they have in mind as per this quote :

'' We are also looking at leasing a bigger aircraft so that we can service more routes, including a South American destination. ''


Time will tell though.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 50, posted (10 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12056 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 49):

They were talking about Brazil not that long ago. OJ lacks the ability or credibility to develop markets outside of the VFR segment, so if they do so, it should be operated as a virtual charter for the Jamaica Tourist Board, leaving them to develop and promote the route, and provide revenue guarantees.

Don't know why they are looking to add a speculative destination when they need to develop their core markets first. These announcements, and then not following through, is beginning to make them look silly.

[Edited 2014-02-14 09:46:54]

[Edited 2014-02-14 09:47:51]

User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (10 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11728 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 48):
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 49):
Well it appears as if its business as usual. Atleast for the time being.

These are pics from their 1st year anniversary. Looks like business as usual..

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1920471_515318618585593_1955970913_n_zps2b81dbc5.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1620939_515318728585582_1327606865_n_zpsa7c646ed.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1798584_515319061918882_1570148096_n_zps6af2768d.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1604457_515251195259002_1567171795_n_zpscab51c4b.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/1795656_515318518585603_1760372479_n_zps80f6632b.jpg

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Miami Air will also operate EWR-MBJ services this summer on behalf of Vacation Express..



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As per OAG thread this week..

OAG Changes 2/21/2014: AA/DL/UA (by enilria Feb 17 2014 in Civil Aviation)

UA EWR-MBJ JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 0.6>0.8

UA IAD-MBJ JUL 0.1>0.4 AUG 0.1>0.3

UA ORD-MBJ JUL 0.1>0.3

I hope to see a EWR-KIN service in the near future..



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11716 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 50):
Don't know why they are looking to add a speculative destination when they need to develop their core markets first.

I would have thought FLL is high on their list for next target destination.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 51):
These are pics from their 1st year anniversary. Looks like business as usual..

Congrats to them and hopefully they will acquire a second frame soon. Even though it is just one year of operation ( with a single aircraft ) I am certain there are those who thought they would have folded already.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 51):
Miami Air will also operate EWR-MBJ services this summer on behalf of Vacation Express..

Interesting. I remember in the 90's Kiwi Air Lines operated charters between EWR and MBJ with B727s. Good to see MBJ getting additional services from EWR.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (10 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11713 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 52):
I would have thought FLL is high on their list for next target destination.

I heard they will serve FLL, once the second runway is completed...If, they were to serve FLL before the airport expansion, the slot times would not be beneficial..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 52):
Congrats to them and hopefully they will acquire a second frame soon. Even though it is just one year of operation ( with a single aircraft ) I am certain there are those who thought they would have folded already.

With plans to expand YYZ services, I assume the second frame will arrive prior to the Mar schedule..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 52):
Interesting. I remember in the 90's Kiwi Air Lines operated charters between EWR and MBJ with B727s. Good to see MBJ getting additional services from EWR.

Agree..Also nice to see the increases from UA..



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 54, posted (10 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 11593 times:

Despite what some people think, there has to be a reason why core founders like Captain Tai left.

What are there loads like? What is their cash flow like? Are there issues with its GEO operations, given restrictions out of the lucrative JFK market (running empty planes down to GEO due to thin KIN-GEO traffic). Is Travelspan providing unanticipated competition for OJ with its nonstops to GEO?

What is noteworthy is that, despite adding GEO, their JFK route is still only 4x.


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Reply 55, posted (10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11536 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
What are there loads like? What is their cash flow like? Are there issues with its GEO operations, given restrictions out of the lucrative JFK market (running empty planes down to GEO due to thin KIN-GEO traffic).

In a recent article, they mentioned, they are seeking a widebody aircraft to tap into the growing tourism market to GEO..My assumption is, the loads are high ex JFK, but a widebody is needed on the route. In an effort to fill the B757 to fly between GEO and KIN.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
What is noteworthy is that, despite adding GEO, their JFK route is still only 4x.

Add to that a 2 weekly service to YYZ..For now, the aircraft is operational 6 days a week..



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 11480 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 53):
I heard they will serve FLL, once the second runway is completed...If, they were to serve FLL before the airport expansion, the slot times would not be beneficial..
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 53):
With plans to expand YYZ services, I assume the second frame will arrive prior to the Mar schedule..

Guess in that case it wouldn't be economical to start FLL now then, if the arrival/departure times will be aweful and uncompetitive.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
What is noteworthy is that, despite adding GEO, their JFK route is still only 4x.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 55):
Add to that a 2 weekly service to YYZ..For now, the aircraft is operational 6 days a week..

With one B752 doing all those rotations it would be a challenge for them to have much more services than what they currently have I would think.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 57, posted (10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 11463 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 55):

The notion that "Guyana has a growing tourist market" is why I wonder if philosophical differences weren't the reason for the split up. Guyana has no tourist industry, beyond that of returning Guyanese, and a few Trinis and Bajans going to watch cricket, check out their Guyanese friends and buy some gold (less of that now as gold is expensive).

Even though a one plane operation poses operational challenges, unless they have more market share on the JFK KIN route I really don't see how that can be fully used. JFK GEO is limited as OJ isn't allowed to do turn round flights. Only certain people will tolerate that long flight via KIN. The northbound is especially harsh as much of its is overnight.

What is apparent is that the people who knew more about running a commercial carrier have left. Reece runs a domestic charter airline in Guyana, and seems to be indulging in flights of fantasy.

I guess at some point we will find out as carriers of this type have a tough time bringing in cash until around May/June when people begin buying their summer tickets.


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Reply 58, posted (10 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 11360 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 57):

Only time will tell..
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DL will operate a total of 10 mainline and 1 regional aircraft into MBJ today.

The schedule are as follow.

ATL-MBJ
4 MD88 and 1 CR9.

IND-MBJ 1 A320

DTW-MBJ 1 A320 and ! B738

MSP-MBJ 2 A320

JFK-MBJ 1 B738.
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A full cohort of 25 trainee Air Traffic Controllers has successfully completed the rigourous Aerodrome/Approach Control Training Course offered by the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority’s Training Institute (CAATI). Director General of the JCAA, Mr. Leroy Lindsay, explained that the programme is “one among many, which are being undertaken by the Authority, to assist the safe and orderly development of Jamaica’s aviation industry, while securing a viable future for the nation in a standards-driven, dynamic and competitive global aviation industry.”
http://go-jamaica.com/pressrelease/item.php?id=3009

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In this report it mentioned, Conviasa is looking to spread it's wings to other Caribbean Islands..
Only a matter of time before we see services to MBJ and KIN..I see a 3-4 weekly CCS-KIN-MBJ-CCS service in the future..

http://www.avn.info.ve/contenido/con...ns-open-routes-caribbean-countries



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (10 months 11 hours ago) and read 11215 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 58):
DL will operate a total of 10 mainline and 1 regional aircraft into MBJ today.

The schedule are as follow.

ATL-MBJ
4 MD88 and 1 CR9.

IND-MBJ 1 A320

DTW-MBJ 1 A320 and ! B738

MSP-MBJ 2 A320

JFK-MBJ 1 B738.

Very impressive line up by DL in MBJ. With the KIN-ATL service, that's a total of 12 flights from Jamaica for the day.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 58):
A full cohort of 25 trainee Air Traffic Controllers has successfully completed the rigourous Aerodrome/Approach Control Training Course offered by the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority’s Training Institute (CAATI).

I am wondering when the new control tower at Norman Manley International will be operational.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (10 months 8 hours ago) and read 11192 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 59):
Very impressive line up by DL in MBJ. With the KIN-ATL service, that's a total of 12 flights from Jamaica for the day.

As the US economy rebounds, I expect DL to add more seasonal flights to MBJ..KIN should see an increase in capacity by W15..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 59):
I am wondering when the new control tower at Norman Manley International will be operational.

Have'nt heard of a deadline..

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InterCaribbean Airlines have unveiled their new livery..They will soon start domestic services and have targeted Cuba as an area for growth. Plans are also in place to connect Jamaica with Brazil via SDQ..

Concurrently, the airline also plans to offer service to Cuba. In fact it also plans to offer indirect connectivity to Brazil via the Dominican Republic. It would do so by synching its Dominican Republic arrivals with two daily flights originating in Brazil.

"We are in the process of signing an interconnectivity agreement which would allow traffic from Brazil the opportunity to come to Jamaca. So we are opening the Jamaican market for tourism purposes as well," Gardiner said.
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...o-fly-domestic-in-Jamaica_16125722



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 11029 times:
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I was blown away by this TUI ad featuring Jamaica's Yohan Blake..Job well done to the production team..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1rint5mXM

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For S14, Sunwings will be offering flights from YEG and YYC into MBJ..

Sunwing is excited to announce the availability of its biggest summer program yet as destinations have been added to the tour operator’s already extensive flight schedule. New this summer are vacation packages to Freeport, Grand Bahama Island and Panama from Toronto. Sunwing will also offer flights from Edmonton and Calgary to Montego Bay, Jamaica, as well as flights from Quebec City to Punta Cana, Dominican Republic

http://www.sunwing.ca/newsstory.asp?id=452

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Westjet will increase YYZ-MBJ to 11 weekly for S14..Last year, they operated 10 weekly.
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Eff Dec 24..Thomson Airways will operare a bi-weekly B787 CPH-MBJ service.I assume the current ARN-MBJ will also operate in W15.



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Reply 62, posted (9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11000 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 61):
I was blown away by this TUI ad featuring Jamaica's Yohan Blake..Job well done to the production team..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1rint5mXM

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Will TUI be using MBJ as hub for their cruise ships, meaning that they will fly in the tourists to go on the cruise ship in MBJ?

A388


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 10942 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 62):
Will TUI be using MBJ as hub for their cruise ships, meaning that they will fly in the tourists to go on the cruise ship in MBJ?

Yes, flights will be operated by Thomson Tui from LGW, MAN and GLA..

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=AwrBT...ses-winter-2014-15-launch-1a5.aspx



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 64, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10857 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 63):
Yes, flights will be operated by Thomson Tui from LGW, MAN and GLA..

http://search.yahoo.com/r/_ylt=AwrBT...ses-winter-2014-15-launch-1a5.aspx

Great thanks Hummingbird, the yahoo link doesn't work by the way.

A388


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Reply 65, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10851 times:
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Quoting A388 (Reply 64):

My bad.. This link should work..

http://communicationcentre.thomson.c...ses-winter-2014-15-launch-1a5.aspx

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Interesting data as it pertains to seats between Canada and The Caribbean..



http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...e-caribbean-flying-in-summer-2014/



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10859 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 60):
InterCaribbean Airlines have unveiled their new livery..They will soon start domestic services and have targeted Cuba as an area for growth. Plans are also in place to connect Jamaica with Brazil via SDQ..

Their new livery look great. Simple but colourful and eye catching. Regarding the connection option from Brazil, it would be another alternative, but I think most would prefer the PTY connection with CM as it would be less time consuming and more cost effective.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 61):
I was blown away by this TUI ad featuring Jamaica's Yohan Blake..Job well done to the production team..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1ri...t5mXM

Very creative ad. No way could anyone run on Dunn's River Falls like that. Lol.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 61):
For S14, Sunwings will be offering flights from YEG and YYC into MBJ..

Can the B738 do YYC-MBJ nonstop ? Seem quite a distance there for that metal. Or will they lease larger aircraft for some routes ? Good to see them beefing up services to the Caribbean.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 61):
Westjet will increase YYZ-MBJ to 11 weekly for S14..Last year, they operated 10 weekly.
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Eff Dec 24..Thomson Airways will operare a bi-weekly B787 CPH-MBJ service.I assume the current ARN-MBJ will also operate in W15.

Good news for both travellers and industry stake holders alike.



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User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10000 posts, RR: 15
Reply 67, posted (9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 10837 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 66):
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 61):
I was blown away by this TUI ad featuring Jamaica's Yohan Blake..Job well done to the production team..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-1ri...t5mXM

Very creative ad. No way could anyone run on Dunn's River Falls like that. Lol.

I said the same thing when I saw that part of the clip but if you see what one of these guys does for a living it might be possible that these guys can actually pull it off:


http://www.youtube.com/user/chrislodge3run


Pretty amazing stuff and I assume all four guys work for the same company, doing the same things.


Cheers,

A388


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (9 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10750 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 67):
I said the same thing when I saw that part of the clip but if you see what one of these guys does for a living it might be possible that these guys can actually pull it off:

Come to think of it you are right. They probably did pull it off as they seem more than capable to, though for anyone who have visited that attraction in Ocho Rios, it may seem unreal, especially on that section of the falls.


Chinese visitors staying in Jamaica for less than 30 days will no longer require a visa for entry.........


'' KINGSTON, Jamaica – Citizens of China will now be able to enter Jamaica without a visa.

Speaking at the Jamaica House Post Cabinet press briefing on Wednesday, Minister of Information, Sandrea Falconer said that government has approved a new regime that will allow Chinese nationals to visit Jamaica as tourists for up to 30 days without a visa.

Falconer said that it has been difficult to achieve substantial growth in arrivals from China as many Chinese citizens have had to travel great distances to obtain a visa from the Jamaican Embassy in Beijing. "


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...sa-for-Chinese-visitors-to-Jamaica


Lets see the impact this waiver may have.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (9 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 10638 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 66):
Their new livery look great. Simple but colourful and eye catching. Regarding the connection option from Brazil, it would be another alternative, but I think most would prefer the PTY connection with CM as it would be less time consuming and more cost effective.

I heard, they will start more hire Jamaicans to support their growth plans from the island..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 66):
Can the B738 do YYC-MBJ nonstop ? Seem quite a distance there for that metal. Or will they lease larger aircraft for some routes ? Good to see them beefing up services to the Caribbean.

Yes, WS used to operate the route on a seasonal basis..Also, Enerjet operated the route for a brief period..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 66):
Good news for both travellers and industry stake holders alike.

Agree.

Quoting A388 (Reply 67):
I said the same thing when I saw that part of the clip but if you see what one of these guys does for a living it might be possible that these guys can actually pull it off:


http://www.youtube.com/user/chrislodge3run


Pretty amazing stuff and I assume all four guys work for the same company, doing the same things.

Agree.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 68):
Speaking at the Jamaica House Post Cabinet press briefing on Wednesday, Minister of Information, Sandrea Falconer said that government has approved a new regime that will allow Chinese nationals to visit Jamaica as tourists for up to 30 days without a visa.

It's about time..Now we can sit back and wait for those long-awaited Chinese charters..

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US is currently operating a 4th daily on its CLT-MBJ-CLT segment.This flight operates Thur-Sun as a RON.

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While no mention have been made of plans to operate into Jamaica..New Cayman start up, BlueSky Airlines will initially wet lease two Dash8-400 to cover Intra-Regional routes..

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...irlines-eyes-intracaribbean-market

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According to The Jamaica Observer, B6 is now ahead of BW in terms of seats into Jamaica from US..Eff, May, they will be the market share leader on the FLL-Jamaica route.

The newer US-based carrier is already slightly ahead of CAL in Jamaica, in terms of passenger airlift to the US, mainly because of the New York leg, but JetBlue should take over in Fort Lauderdale come May.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...s-its-Caribbean-dominance_16152885



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (9 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10548 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 69):
According to The Jamaica Observer, B6 is now ahead of BW in terms of seats into Jamaica from US..Eff, May, they will be the market share leader on the FLL-Jamaica route.

The newer US-based carrier is already slightly ahead of CAL in Jamaica, in terms of passenger airlift to the US, mainly because of the New York leg, but JetBlue should take over in Fort Lauderdale come May.

No surprise there. Was more than expected.


Seem they are finally ready to get the extension of the runway at MBJ off the ground..............


'' The runway at the Donald Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay is to be extended at a cost of US$65 million.

Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller made the announcement on Friday (February 28), while addressing an Economic Reform Programme (ERP) stakeholder’s conference at the Montego Bay Convention Centre in Rose Hall, St. James.

Simpson Miller pointed out that due to the existing length of the runway the airport is unable to accommodate certain sized aircraft. "


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/lates...ster-Airport--MoBay-to-be-extended


Have been hearing of these plans for quite some time now. Let us see if the ball will finally get rolling.



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (9 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 10342 times:

I saw FJ's 752 at GEO yesterday over by the GDF hardstand any probs with the a/c?

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 10322 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 71):
I saw FJ's 752 at GEO yesterday over by the GDF hardstand any probs with the a/c?

OJ 150 arrived in KIN from GEO at 4:15 am this morning and departed at 6:15 am as OJ 121 to JFK. What time did you spot the aircraft by the hardstand ?


By the way, I noticed that DL adjusted their KIN-ATL departure time to 10:00 am. That means the aircraft RON for 14.5 hours.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 10247 times:
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Looks like US has beefed up services to MBJ from CLT for the rest of the winter.

CLT-MBJ will operate 3 daily. A 4th flight is operated Thur-Sun.This flight terminates in MBJ and leaves the following morning.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 71):

I saw FJ's 752 at GEO yesterday over by the GDF hardstand any probs with the a/c?

GUYAIR707
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 72):
OJ 150 arrived in KIN from GEO at 4:15 am this morning and departed at 6:15 am as OJ 121 to JFK. What time did you spot the aircraft by the hardstand ?

Been monitoring their flights, all flights have been on time. However, there will be changes to their schedule eff Mar 10.YYZ will see new times from KIN and YYZ. I will give a detailed breakdown of the airframe's rotation.

Eff Mar 9

Sun
1:00am GEO-KIN 3:30AM
5:30AM KIN-JFK 10:00AM
12:15PM JFK-KIN 3:05PM
4:30PM KIN-GEO 9:00PM

MON
1:00AM GEO-KIN 3:30AM
5:30AM KIN-JFK 10:15AM
12:15PM JFK-KIN 3:05PM
5:05PM KIN-YYZ 10:45PM

TUES
7:55AM YYZ-GEO 2:25PM
4:30PM GEO-YYZ 11:00PM

WED
7:55AM YYZ - KIN11:25AM

THUR
5:30AM KIN-JFK 10:15AM
12:15PM JFK-KIN 3:05PM
4:30PM KIN-GEO 9:00PM

FRI
1:00AM GEO-KIN 3:30AM
5:30AM KIN-JFK 10:15AM
12:15PM JFK-GEO 5:45PM

NO FLYING ON SAT.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 72):
By the way, I noticed that DL adjusted their KIN-ATL departure time to 10:00 am. That means the aircraft RON for 14.5 hours

I did a recent flight to ORD from ATL on DL. The outbound A319 arrived from KIN. I counted at least 20 Jamaicans who had ORD as their final destination, who had connected from KIN.



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 710 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 10176 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 73):
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 73):


It was around 5pm, I was departing on BW526. I guess if it is not used on Saturdays then it would be normal to be there. There was no activity around the a/c I guess it was just awaiting its next flight.

GUYAIR707


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Reply 75, posted (9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 10154 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 73):
I did a recent flight to ORD from ATL on DL. The outbound A319 arrived from KIN. I counted at least 20 Jamaicans who had ORD as their final destination, who had connected from KIN.

My sistrin who usually fly BWI-MIA-KIN and back with AA when visiting Jamaica happily switched to DL via ATL when the service started. JM was her prefered choice out of BWI to KIN, through MBJ when they were around, but was left with AA after the divestment. But she is now happy to have an option other than MIA where connection is concerned, as like many other people I know, she tries to avoid that South Florida airport, if at all possible.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 74):
There was no activity around the a/c I guess it was just awaiting its next flight.

More than likely that was the case.



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9799 times:

OJ is advertising vacancies for cabin attendants in Kingston I observe. I am sure they will receive '' tonnes " of applications. Not certain of the exact number they are targeting though.


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Reply 77, posted (9 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 9796 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 76):
OJ is advertising vacancies for cabin attendants in Kingston I observe. I am sure they will receive '' tonnes " of applications. Not certain of the exact number they are targeting though.

They are also looking for Captains and First Officers with B757/B767 experience..I guess expansion is on the horizon..

Also, later this year a second GEO-YYZ flight will be added..This flight will operate on Fri and will leave GEO @1:00am and return in the afternoon.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/0C31961D-22F1-4F34-9012-813CA109BF44_zpszxhfb7mi.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/0B4582AD-4170-440A-89A2-8615890E3412_zpslbw2xvj0.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/155B01F1-966A-443D-8C18-5FCAD0FE82BF_zpsacr9e4kq.jpg

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Transaero had filed with The JCAA to upgrade their flights to MBJ from charter to schedule..Looks like they are seeing good results on this sector.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 9457 times:
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Earlier this year, Mr Reese mentioned their intentions to increase GEO-YYZ to twice weekly..
Eff Apr 25, GEO-YYZ will increase to twice weekly..The nonstop JFK-GEO will be discontinued to facilitate this new service..
Also, with the recent recruitment drive, aircraft# 2 is coming soon...


GEO-YYZ
8:25 AM 2:55 PM 145 WE
1:00 AM 7:30 AM 147 FR

YYZ-GEO

7:55 AM 2:25 PM 144 TU
9:30 AM 4:00 PM 146 FR


Also JFK-KIN will increase to 4 weekly and KIN-GEO will increase to 3 weekly..



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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (9 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 9403 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 78):
The nonstop JFK-GEO will be discontinued to facilitate this new service..

They had non-stops JFK-GEO? I thought all GEO/JFK/GEO operations routed via KIN.



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 9395 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 77):
Transaero had filed with The JCAA to upgrade their flights to MBJ from charter to schedule..Looks like they are seeing good results on this sector.

Can't say I am totally surprised, but the introduction of flights from Russia to Jamaica by Transaero has been impressive from day 1 it would seem. From B772 to B744, and now plans to operate on a scheduled basis is welcome news.

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 79):
They had non-stops JFK-GEO? I thought all GEO/JFK/GEO operations routed via KIN.

JFK-GEO was always nonstop on OJ. The mandatory stop was applicable only to the northbound segment, so they had to operate GEO-KIN-JFK as per the USDOT stipulation.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 78):
Also JFK-KIN will increase to 4 weekly and KIN-GEO will increase to 3 weekly..

I thought JFK-KIN was already at 4x weekly. What is their current frequency ?



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (9 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 9387 times:
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Quoting LimaMike (Reply 79):

It was a weekly service that operated on Fridays..

This is their schedule that goes till May. I suspect, more flights will be added for the summer period..

http://www.fly-jamaica.com/timetables/plan-a-trip/timetables


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Good news from The German market..

http://jtbonline.org/pages/default.aspx

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 80):
I thought JFK-KIN was already at 4x weekly. What is their current frequency ?

JFK-KIN is currently at 3 weekly, Mon, Thur and Sun...It will be 4 weekly eff Apr 26, Mon, Thur,Sat and Sun

[Edited 2014-03-17 18:29:07]


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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (9 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9261 times:
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BW's 9Y-BGI has been static on the" front lawn" of the Norman Manley airport for the past two weeks or more, is this a signal of overcapacity despite increased flights from KIN, or is it being returned to lessor, maybe just technical issues? Can someone explain.

User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 83, posted (9 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 9195 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 78):
The nonstop JFK-GEO will be discontinued to facilitate this new service..

From what I understand, this adjustment is seasonal, and the JFK-GEO nonstop will be back in time for the busy summer period.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 78):
Earlier this year, Mr Reese mentioned their intentions to increase GEO-YYZ to twice weekly..
Eff Apr 25, GEO-YYZ will increase to twice weekly..

Good that travelers will now have a choice of 2 weekly nonstops between GEO and YYZ.



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 84, posted (9 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9113 times:

Good news for Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean. Plans are in place for adjustments to the current APD tax band....


'' KINGSTON, Jamaica– An announcement made today, Wednesday, March 19 by British Chancellor of the Exchequer, George Osborne, of changes to the Air Passenger Duty (APD) that will prove favourable to Jamaica and the Caribbean has been welcomed by Tourism and Entertainment Minister Dr Wykeham McNeill.

The changes will come into effect in April 2015 and will see the axing of APD bands C and D for flights of more than 4,000 miles. All long-haul flights will now carry the same, lower, band B tax rate, meaning people travelling to the Caribbean will pay the same as those travelling to the United States. ''


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...come-UK-Air-Passenger-Duty-reforms


This is much welcome news and it should have happened long ago.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9102 times:
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Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 82):
BW's 9Y-BGI has been static on the" front lawn" of the Norman Manley airport for the past two weeks or more, is this a signal of overcapacity despite increased flights from KIN, or is it being returned to lessor, maybe just technical issues? Can someone explain.

Heard nothing so far on this aircraft.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 83):
From what I understand, this adjustment is seasonal, and the JFK-GEO nonstop will be back in time for the busy summer period.

Which confirms the arrival of the second aircraft. I hope they get a B767.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 83):
Good that travelers will now have a choice of 2 weekly nonstops between GEO and YYZ.

I agree, its a growing market.

BTW, CHEC has made KIN, its Headquarters for The America's region..They are currently expanding the GEO airport, am pretty sure OJ has jumped on the opportunity to transfer staff between GEO and KIN..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 84):
Good news for Jamaica and the rest of the Caribbean. Plans are in place for adjustments to the current APD tax band....

I agree.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 86, posted (9 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9091 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 85):

Actually YYZ GEO isn't growing. Its a flat market.


User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (9 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9031 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 86):
Actually
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 85):

Air Canada has upgraded there the mondays and thursdays KIN from A319 to the B767. The changes are for the summer and its only for flights operated on Mondays to KIN. Flight times on those days are also changes and matches flight times similiar to OJ

[Edited 2014-03-20 10:03:36]

User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9004 times:
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Quoting jm079 (Reply 87):

Trying to dump capacity may not hurt OJ as they are still yet to match their inflight service and baggage allowance..
But, it's nice to see that AC has identified OJ as a threat to their long term sustainability on the route ..



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User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (9 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8965 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 88):

Its being reported thagt Transaero is to suspend service to MBJ.

Further update to come.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (9 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8945 times:
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Quoting jm079 (Reply 89):


Yes, according to this link..

KINGSTON,Jamaica (CMC) - The recent political developments between Russia and Ukraine, has led to the suspension of service provided by Transaero Airlines.
On Thursday, the Ministry of Tourism announced that Transaero will be suspending service between Moscow and Montego Bay, effective March 28, with a resumption of service set for November.
This development has been attributed to "dramatic currency fluctuations in Russia, their impact on airline operations and recent political developments."


http://m.jamaicaobserver.com/mobile/...irline-suspends-service-to-Jamaica



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (9 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8909 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 85):
BTW, CHEC has made KIN, its Headquarters for The America's region..They are currently expanding the GEO airport, am pretty sure OJ has jumped on the opportunity to transfer staff between GEO and KIN..

OJ will be a very convenient option for their travels to GEO.

Quoting jm079 (Reply 87):
Air Canada has upgraded there the mondays and thursdays KIN from A319 to the B767. The changes are for the summer and its only for flights operated on Mondays to KIN. Flight times on those days are also changes and matches flight times similiar to OJ
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 88):
Trying to dump capacity may not hurt OJ as they are still yet to match their inflight service and baggage allowance..
But, it's nice to see that AC has identified OJ as a threat to their long term sustainability on the route ..

How will WS compare frequency wise in KIN this summer ? I assume OJ will increase KIN-YYZ to atleast 2x weekly when aircraft # 2 arrive.

Quoting jm079 (Reply 89):
Its being reported thagt Transaero is to suspend service to MBJ.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 90):
Yes, according to this link..

Such a pity. Just as their MBJ route was gaining even more traction. I am pleased however that they plan to resume operations in November. Hopefully things will iron out by then and year round ops can resume.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 8728 times:
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Taken from the OAG Thread..
OJ will be increasing JFK-KIN.. High praises indeed..

OJ JFK-KIN JUL 0.5>0.7 AUG 0.6>0.7 SEP 0.6>0.7 OCT 0.5>0.7

I have a feeling this will be to accommodate the new aircraft which presumably should be a B767.

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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 91):

WS will operate 4 weekly flights into KIN for the summer.. They are currently operating two flights a week..



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 93, posted (9 months 1 day ago) and read 8701 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 60):
InterCaribbean Airlines have unveiled their new livery..They will soon start domestic services and have targeted Cuba as an area for growth. Plans are also in place to connect Jamaica with Brazil via SDQ..

They are giving a briefing tomorrow at ROUTES%u2026.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 91):
Just as their MBJ route was gaining even more traction

I understand that loads were horrible though. Can anyone in this thread verify that it is so and not sour grapes from my airline source at the MBJ airport

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92):
OJ will be increasing JFK-KIN.. High praises indeed..

OJ JFK-KIN JUL 0.5>0.7 AUG 0.6>0.7 SEP 0.6>0.7 OCT 0.5>0.7

I wish them well.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (9 months 19 hours ago) and read 8648 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 93):
I understand that loads were horrible though. Can anyone in this thread verify that it is so and not sour grapes from my airline source at the MBJ airport

Am not sure, where you friend is getting his info...
Take a look at the JTB stats for Jan.
Also, they applied to The JCAA earlier this year to convert from a charter to a scheduled service on a year round basis
http://jtbonline.org/statistics/Mont...y%202014%20Vol%20xxiv%20No%201.pdf

Feb and Mar will follow shortly..
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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (9 months 14 hours ago) and read 8594 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92):
Taken from the OAG Thread..
OJ will be increasing JFK-KIN.. High praises indeed..

OJ JFK-KIN JUL 0.5>0.7 AUG 0.6>0.7 SEP 0.6>0.7 OCT 0.5>0.7

I have a feeling this will be to accommodate the new aircraft which presumably should be a B767.

Hoping this schedule will involve aircraft # 2.

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 93):
I understand that loads were horrible though. Can anyone in this thread verify that it is so and not sour grapes from my airline source at the MBJ airport

Think your source at MBJ is eating lots of sour grapes. The Transaero route into MBJ was a success from day 1 where loads are concerned. They started with a B777 and shortly after had to upgrade to a B744. Then they announced that plans were in place to operate year round scheduled. All those developments would not happen if loads were so horrible. There have been many newspaper articles detailing how well that market had performed in such a short period of time. Hopefully they can get back to their previous plans where service to MBJ is concerned in the near future.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (8 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 8468 times:

Guys, FWIW….I am hearing rumours that VS is looking to restart LGW-KIN with a 330.

Bet the folks at the NMIA would be over the moon if that were so



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 8444 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 96):
Guys, FWIW….I am hearing rumours that VS is looking to restart LGW-KIN with a 330.

Bet the folks at the NMIA would be over the moon if that were so

Haven't heard that rumor before now, but honestly I would not be surprised if they actually did. The A330 is a better fit for LGW-KIN I think than the B744. Also it would be beneficial for travelers to have a choice on that route as I am certain BA charges a premium ( as any other carrier would ) being the only carrier on it at the moment. Still expecting them to also announce MAN-MBJ in the future. On a side note, I wouldn't be surprised either if BA decide to restart LGW-MBJ sometime with a more suitable aircraft, even though in the same breath, I know that isn't a priority for them right now.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8398 times:
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Quoting yellowtail (Reply 96):
Guys, FWIW%u2026.I am hearing rumours that VS is looking to restart LGW-KIN with a 330.

Bet the folks at the NMIA would be over the moon if that were so

Interesting, one would have thought BW would be on this route by now...

But, the market has grown and BA offering the only nonstop service is commanding high fares especially in J..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 97):
Haven't heard that rumor before now, but honestly I would not be surprised if they actually did. The A330 is a better fit for LGW-KIN I think than the B744. Also it would be beneficial for travelers to have a choice on that route as I am certain BA charges a premium ( as any other carrier would ) being the only carrier on it at the moment. Still expecting them to also announce MAN-MBJ in the future. On a side note, I wouldn't be surprised either if BA decide to restart LGW-MBJ sometime with a more suitable aircraft, even though in the same breath, I know that isn't a priority for them right now.

I believed, BA jumped the gun, when they pulled out of MBJ...Am pretty sure with the relaxation of the ADP taxes, they are shooting themselves in the foot.



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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8303 times:
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Quoting hummingbird (Reply 98):
Interesting, one would have thought BW would be on this route by now...

BW has their own agenda, they do not cater for Jamaican tourism or the economy. BW needs a marketing arm in the tourist industry. Because of their culture they closed prime gateways such as Chicago, Baltimore, Philly and Los Angeles, which was once served by JM .I cannot support this culture.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 100, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 8270 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 99):

I wonder why BW must undertake the cost and risk of marketing to the leisure market, given that US carriers will always be preferred? These routes that are profitable, are well served by US carriers. Indeed JM was losing market share on all of trhem before they closed down.

When foreign carriers think a route is risky they demand revenue guarantees. If Jamaica needs BW to assume risk then they ought to do the same.

Let us remember why JM collapsed. Its because it lost money on those same leisure markets that you want BW to risk. Especially to ATL, ORD, and LAX.

BW needs to stay with its VFR market. After all if it tries a leisure and fails, its the T&T taxpayer who will have to pick up the bill.


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Reply 101, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8201 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 100):
BW needs to stay with its VFR market. After all if it tries a leisure and fails, its the T&T taxpayer who will have to pick up t

BW should sell out their JM stake and concentrate on its core routes.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 102, posted (8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8200 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 101):

BW doesn't have any JM holdings to sell. You know full well that JM no longer exists. You also know full well that BW is only on the route because Bruce Golding begged Patrick Manning to take over the routes, when the IMF demanded that he shut down JM. Golding feared the political ramifications of closing JM so assigned the Air Jamaica brand to the BW routes..

The existing T&T president, was in the opposition, and was violently against that deal, as indeed were most Trinidadians.
Tell the Jamaican govt to sell their equity holdings back to the Govt of T&T if that is how you feel. They will get ZERO though.


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Reply 103, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8069 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 98):

I believed, BA jumped the gun, when they pulled out of MBJ...Am pretty sure with the relaxation of the ADP taxes, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Well they cited an inability to fill premium seats or maintain sustainable yields. At the time it was a reasonable decision for them to make.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 100):
Let us remember why JM collapsed. Its because it lost money on those same leisure markets that you want BW to risk. Especially to ATL, ORD, and LAX.
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 99):

BW has their own agenda, they do not cater for Jamaican tourism or the economy.

It is tough to target tourists and remain viable. Aren't they mostly low-yield? BW is not set up for that. JM tried it and it failed. I do not think it is a good strategy.



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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7985 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 102):

The whole situation is just very sickening. The govt of the day should stick to the selection procedures instead of running to Trinidad by night in a panic. I am sure the second runner up would have done better, given their track record and experience in this business. They own three other carriers including spirit airlines.


User currently offlineJM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1227 posts, RR: 1
Reply 105, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7974 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 104):
The whole situation is just very sickening. The govt of the day should stick to the selection procedures instead of running to Trinidad by night in a panic. I am sure the second runner up would have done better, given their track record and experience in this business. They own three other carriers including spirit airlines.

Yeah, sometimes an outsider or stranger is the best option. I think a lot of folks here were against BW and with good reason.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 106, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7947 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 104):
http://www.caribbeanavenue.com/aviation/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=2972

http://www.caribbeanavenue.com/aviation/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=3589



Don't know where you are getting your facts but the owners of Spirit Airline were offered an opportunity to acquire Air Jamaica. That deal collapsed. The IMF told Golding, either close down JM or no money. Golding fled to T&T to beg BW to absprb JMs routes.

The Govt of T&T. not only agreed, but set aside millions of dollars to fund the transition, and offered Jamaica ownership interests even though they had not ivested ONE PENNY in the new operation.

As you can see not every one was happy, even Rowley who was a major figure within the PNM


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 107, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7904 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 98):
I believed, BA jumped the gun, when they pulled out of MBJ...Am pretty sure with the relaxation of the ADP taxes, they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Have a feeling they will be back on it in the future. But I would really like to see VS back in KIN though.


Apparently a B6 flight from KIN had to make an emergency landing shortly after take off yesterday evening because of smoke in the cockpit.............


'' A Jet Blue flight which had just taken off from the Norman Manley International Airport (NMIA) in Kingston was forced to turn back and make an emergency landing this evening.

Alfred McDonald, senior director of commercial development and planning at the Airports Authority of Jamaica, told the Gleaner/Power 106 News Centre that the flight, with 98 passengers and four crew members, landed safely. ''


http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/article.php?id=52020


Good to hear that it landed safely. I am not sure if it was the flight destined to FLL ( E190 ) or JFK ( A320 ) as both depart late evening.



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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7819 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 107):
Good to hear that it landed safely. I am not sure if it was the flight destined to FLL ( E190 ) or JFK ( A320 ) as both depart late evening.


B6 Flt#876 KIN-FLL E190. After landing the aircraft was evacuated on the runway via emergency slides.



Cleared for takeoff!
User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7780 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 106):
Don't know where you are getting your facts but the owners of Spirit Airline were offered an opportunity to acquire Air Jamaica. That deal collapsed. The IMF told Golding, either close down JM or no money. Golding fled to T&T to beg BW to absprb JMs routes.

The Spirit deal did not collapse. They were forced out because the govt of the day wanted the hand over operations to BW as they tought a regional carrier would be better and BW would address all our tourism and VFR needs. This idea failed miserably.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7714 times:

Quoting LimaMike (Reply 108):
B6 Flt#876 KIN-FLL E190. After landing the aircraft was evacuated on the runway via emergency slides.

OK. I get the impression that the A320 is rarely used on the KIN-FLL route nowadays, even during the peak periods. Or do they still use them on it at times ?


The competition on the KIN-MBJ route is heating up. InterCaribbean Airways will offer 16 weekly flights between the two locations. Their introductory fares will be approximately half of what the competition is currently charging. Flights start mid April...............................


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/busin...Kingston-to-MoBay-flights_16387395


Travelers will like the additional option I am sure. Knutsford Express is still one of the most economical option, for those who don't mind the 4 hour journey.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 111, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7669 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 109):

The deal collapsed for some reason other than what you stated. The focus was on Spirit, and then somthing happened, and then BW as back in the game.

There is absolutely NO WAY that any one could have imagined that BW, which is NOT a leisure carrier, will suddenly become one in a market as competitive as Jamaica. There is no route served by JM which isnt already served by many US carriers, except LAX which is extremely unprofitable. Jamaica has no hortage of carriers to serve its leisure markets. Maybe this is the story that people might be peddling, but this defies logic.

JM was a money losing airline, operating the routes that you demand that BW operate. Because Jamaica is a tourist economy and TRinidad isnt, BW doesnt place priority on the leisure markets. Indeed when BWIA was closed and CAL reploaced it, service to more leisure oriented islands like BGI and ANU from North America was terminated. The focus shifted to the POS/GEO markets whcih are VFR and business oriented. Leisure routes are low yield, especially when it comes to small foreign carriers who lack the FF and brand identity that will attract most North American visitors.

So why would the Govt of Jamaica expect BW to operate routes that it wasnt prepared to financially support? Do you think that T&T taxpayers should underwrite losses against US carriers on the BWI and PHL routes? Making note of the fact that the US carriers operate out of hubs where they are well known, and where JM, prior to its closeure, was losing market share because of unreliable service.

The reality is that Spirit made demands that Jamaica wasnt willing to accept, and they had run out of options, aside from a quick trip to Trinidad.

And just to show how uninterested the Jamaican govt is in supporting BW, they allowed OJ to enter the market. Given its VFR focus, obviously the carrier who would have lost out is BW.

What support has Jamaica provided BW which merits it making demands that BW should lose money? As it is all the money invested to support this route came from TRINIDAD! Not ONE PENNY from Jamaica!


User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (8 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7631 times:
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Quoting guyanam (Reply 111):

And just to show how uninterested the Jamaican govt is in supporting BW, they allowed OJ to enter the market. Given its VFR focus, obviously the carrier who would have lost out is BW

Dont worry yourself, you will soon at least two other entrants in the market. One is 80% complete with paper work, hence you will see new large pockets of tourist entering the market. VFR will gravitate even more to new Jamaican carriers. BW needs to prevent this from happening or face the consequences.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 113, posted (8 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 7565 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 112):

I see so you think that the T&T tax payer should be held liable for any losses that BW makes on its KIN routes, while the Govt of Jamaica allows any new player in. This while T&T derives no benefit for these routes. This being a favor to Jamaica due to Patrick Manning's huge ego.


The only people who got burnt in that deal were the tax payers of T&T. Golding saved embarrassment when Manning bailed him out by taking over JM routes and keeping alive the Air Jamaica brand. This so that he would not have to face the fall out of having to explain to Jamaicans why Air Jamaica failed. He could blame the Trinidadians.

T&T poured millions of dollars in an attempt to build its KIN operations. Jamaica has an open skies agreement, allowing every one to fly there.

Don't know what your grouse with BW is. It is clear that Jamaica has NO shortage of interested parties in providing airiine service. So your insistence that BW should resume service on routes where JM lost millions of dollars is baffling. BW has no more obligations to fly routes where they aren't sure that they can succeed than does any other carrier.


User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7373 times:
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Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 99):
BW needs a marketing arm in the tourist industry.

At the time, they were not interested in this dual market concept..This is when the previous admin decided to relinquish their monopoly on the FLL-KIN route..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 110):
Travelers will like the additional option I am sure. Knutsford Express is still one of the most economical option, for those who don't mind the 4 hour journey.

A win win for the travelling public. I expect many airlines will interline with Inter Caribbean to offer seamless transfer between KIN and MBJ..Also, with the expected success of the route, I expect them to open new Caribbean routes and hopefully a hub operation in MBJ..

This is their featured ad in the media..
Am not sure, how Knutsford Express will respond to this new competition..I can see a lot of corporate contracts heading their way..




Here is a feature on the new service..

"I am thrilled that there will be new scheduled air service between Kingston and Montego Bay," said John Lynch, Jamaica's Director of Tourism. "The service will be particularly helpful for travellers from the UK and Europe as there will be a seamless connection to get them into either city. Passengers on airlines like Southwest, which do not fly into Kingston, will also be facilitated." "I commend interCaribbean Airways for their foresight," continued Mr Lynch. "They saw the need for improved domestic service and in filling the need, has provided additional benefits to Destination Jamaica."

Alfred McDonald, Senior Director Commercial Development and Planning, Norman Manley International Airport Limited, said the new service by interCaribbean is timely, as the airline offers direct connections between Jamaica's two main international airports and offer passengers traveling to either airport, a convenient and quick inter-island air link, closer to their final destination in Jamaica. He added that passengers travelling to Jamaica on airlines such as British Airways and Virgin Atlantic, which fly into NMIA and SIA respectively, will no doubt welcome the news.

Mr. Trevor Sadler, CEO of interCaribbean Airways, said the introduction of these new services and their international connections, is the culmination of years of effort by Chairman Mr. Lyndon Gardiner concerning his work towards an airline that truly connects the Caribbean. It is his belief that this connectivity is not just possible, but necessary to support a greater Caribbean economy, and with the support of Jamaica and the business community, we are now about to realize the next step in the growth of the company.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/interc...es-kingston-montego-172400433.html

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FlyJam will be utilizing a Dynamic Airways B762 aircraft until Apr 6.

http://www.fly-jamaica.com/articles/...rated-by-a-leased-aircraft-apr-3-6

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Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 112):
Dont worry yourself, you will soon at least two other entrants in the market. One is 80% complete with paper work, hence you will see new large pockets of tourist entering the market. VFR will gravitate even more to new Jamaican carriers. BW needs to prevent this from happening or face the consequences.

Cant wait..I hope they acquire a fleet of airbus...



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 115, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7293 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 114):
A win win for the travelling public. I expect many airlines will interline with Inter Caribbean to offer seamless transfer between KIN and MBJ..Also, with the expected success of the route, I expect them to open new Caribbean routes and hopefully a hub operation in MBJ..

IF they could bridge the gap to BZE or SAP (pretty sure the E120 can do it)….Couple of Carriers would be eager to hook up and cooperate…..9N, TAG, and CMairlines already have a cooperative agreement and JY would fit in quite nicely.



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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7224 times:
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Quoting hummingbird (Reply 114):
Cant wait..I hope they acquire a fleet of airbus...

This is the way to go for maximum efficiency.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 117, posted (8 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7217 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 112):

the notion that tourists are going to gravitate to some new fly by nite with a primitive website is laughable. If they don't use BW, which is the 8th largest airline into JFK, they aren't using any one plane outfit.

I also look forward to any information suggesting that OJ flies more people on the JFK KIN route than BW. This is entirely VFR or outbound Jamaicans.

If I were OJ I would be very upset about another Jamaican airline into its routes. The market is finite and so all it is will be more seats chasing more passengers, diminidshing yields, and increasing the probability of a poorly capitalized airline failing. Note. The record of private sector airlines in the Caribbean succeeding is bad. Name ONE competing on international routes, which has succeeded in the long run. Even Insel Air has problems now, and they had seemed to be the exception.


User currently offlinea340jamaica From Jamaica, joined Nov 2008, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7185 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 118):
I also look forward to any information suggesting that OJ flies more people on the JFK KIN route than BW. This is entirely VFR or outbound Jamaicans.

If OJ hangs around long enough, they are going to pull VFR traffic from BW and B6 for that matter in the Jamaican market. I am one of the folks who BW has permanently lost since JM's demise and there are still quite a few of us out there. There is simply no logical reason to use them now when FF miles etc. from the US majors are considered and the emotional appeal to national pride that JM relied on is non-existent. Whether OJ hangs around is another matter however. I agree that more carriers in competition will diminish the likelihood of success of any of them. They should try to find some way to cooperate and increase the likelihood of success vs. the likes of BW and B6.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 119, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7173 times:

Quoting a340jamaica (Reply 119):

My point being that I see no need for several under capitalized airlines struggling against each other, when even the mighty JM ultimately failed. With vastly more support from Jamaicans than any of these carriers will ever get. Remember that JM was a defacto monopoly on key VFR routes into KIN.

B6 is a strong carrier and definitely has its Jamaican fan base, even if BW doesn't. If Jamaica wants the assurance that there will be a local carrier the n they ought to pick one, and do as much as they can to support it. Of what use is there for OJ and another Jamaican airline to compete against each other (BW will have gone) to JFK and FLL, with B6 laughing at them? B6 can under cut them and do all sorts of mischief if they really want the market.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 114):
FlyJam will be utilizing a Dynamic Airways B762 aircraft until Apr 6.

I think this is the first time OJ is utilizing Dynamic Airways B762 ( ? )


Seem there is discontent among Jamaican ( and T & T ) based BW pilots regarding some aspects of their remuneration package..........


'' Caribbean Airlines (CAL) pilots in Jamaica yesterday joined their colleagues in Trinidad in registering disgust at the company's failure to pay them their full salaries over the past four years. ''


'' The move by the Jamaican pilots, he said, was a show of solidarity and unity with their Trinidadian colleagues, as the variable incentive payments to the Jamaicans have been long outstanding. "


http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/CAL-pilots-fed-up_16453744


I recall there were issues pertaining to this subject in the past but I thought it was resolved long ago.



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User currently offlineyankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 6918 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 120):
think this is the first time OJ is utilizing Dynamic Airways B762 ( ? )

OJ needs to be careful when hiring a/c from ad hoc operators for passenger services. Dynamic is a new chater operator which uses four 26-28.5 year old retired boeing 767-200 aircraft. Cheap wet leases are not always the best.


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Reply 122, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6888 times:

Hummingbird thanks for the inter Caribbean Airways special offer. I wish they started last year. I had to use Knutsford Express and even though you do see parts of Jamaica I would have preferred to fly but the Caribbean Airlines fares were too expensive.

A388


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 123, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6817 times:

Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 121):
OJ needs to be careful when hiring a/c from ad hoc operators for passenger services. Dynamic is a new chater operator which uses four 26-28.5 year old retired boeing 767-200 aircraft. Cheap wet leases are not always the best.

I know they also use SY at times to operate for them.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 114):
This is their featured ad in the media..
Am not sure, how Knutsford Express will respond to this new competition..I can see a lot of corporate contracts heading their way..
Quoting A388 (Reply 122):
I wish they started last year. I had to use Knutsford Express and even though you do see parts of Jamaica I would have preferred to fly but the Caribbean Airlines fares were too expensive.

Will be interesting to see what fares InterCaribbean will subsequently charge after the introductory period has elapsed. But yes I have also heard complaints about the cost of flying between KIN and MBJ nowadays.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6807 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 123):

I think this is the first time OJ is utilizing Dynamic Airways B762 ( ? )
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Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 121):
OJ needs to be careful when hiring a/c from ad hoc operators for passenger services. Dynamic is a new chater operator which uses four 26-28.5 year old retired boeing 767-200 aircraft. Cheap wet leases are not always the best.

Yes,this is the first time, they have contracted Dynamic Airways..The aircraft was ferried to RDU from KIN last Sunday..

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/F...1/history/20140406/1138Z/MKJP/KRDU

Quoting A388 (Reply 122):
Hummingbird thanks for the inter Caribbean Airways special offer. I wish they started last year. I had to use Knutsford Express and even though you do see parts of Jamaica I would have preferred to fly but the Caribbean Airlines fares were too expensive.

A388
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 123):
Will be interesting to see what fares InterCaribbean will subsequently charge after the introductory period has elapsed. But yes I have also heard complaints about the cost of flying between KIN and MBJ nowadays.

You are welcome..

I am happy they finally received approval to start domestic services..A few years ago, they applied to service ex JM Express routes and they were denied ( politics). Currently BW and Airspeed Charter are the only two carries serving the market..BW's fares range between $61-$80, while Airspeed's range is $120..With such low introductory fares, surely, there will be a demand for services as the fares also compete with Knutsford Shuttle..But come this summer, I expect to see a gradual increase in fares..

http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20140402/business/business9.html

They are also looking to expand into The South American market.

InterCaribbean Airways (formerly Air Turks & Caicos) is pursuing plans to expand its operations from the Western Caribbean into parts of South America.

The airline recently announced plans to introduce domestic flights in Jamaica, plus its connecting flights from Providenciales (capital of Turks & Caicos) to cities Dominican Republic, Jamaica, Bahamas, Haiti, and flights connecting the Dominican Republic and Jamaica, Haiti and Puerto Rico.

But according to Trevor Sadler, CEO of Inter Caribbean Airways, the objective is to go beyond these island destinations and penetrate the South American market.

“Some of what we are about to do will provide connectivity to South America with one stop to get into Kingston. So, we’re about layering every possible opportunity, be it for the visiting friends or family, be it for the business person, be it for the vacationer, to be able to have more choices, and with that, we hope to be able to build a solid base on which business will multiply, Saddler told RJR News”

http://rjrnewsonline.com/business/in...eking-to-expand-into-south-america



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (8 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 6562 times:
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Inter Caribbean began domestic flights between KIN and MBJ yesterday..
Here is a pic of the water cannon salute in KIN..

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x315/yardieindubai/3317F27E-EB94-41C1-8AFF-804053FD24F6_zps6yxha65y.jpg



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 126, posted (8 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 6522 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 114):
A win win for the travelling public. I expect many airlines will interline with Inter Caribbean to offer seamless transfer between KIN and MBJ..Also, with the expected success of the route, I expect them to open new Caribbean routes and hopefully a hub operation in MBJ..
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 124):
They are also looking to expand into The South American market.

InterCaribbean Airways (formerly Air Turks & Caicos) is pursuing plans to expand its operations from the Western Caribbean into parts of South America.

They seem to have very big expansion plans in the region. Hopefully it will work out for them.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 125):
Inter Caribbean began domestic flights between KIN and MBJ yesterday..
Here is a pic of the water cannon salute in KIN..

InterCaribbean aircraft looking good at Manley. For a moment I thought that was MBJ when I glanced at the photo, but then I saw the NMIA on the fire truck.



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (8 months 3 days ago) and read 6351 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 126):

I hope to see more expansion on their part..


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Guys, DL has returned on the trunk JFK-KIN route..

DELTA from 20DEC14 is adding Saturday-only service from New York JFK to the Caribbean, with service to Grand Cayman and Kingston, on board Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Planned operation as follow.

New York JFK – Kingston
DL699 JFK1700 – 2050KIN 73H 6
DL737 KIN0800 – 1145JFK 73H



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User currently offlineLimaMike From Jamaica, joined Feb 2006, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (8 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6276 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 127):
Guys, DL has returned on the trunk JFK-KIN route..

DELTA from 20DEC14 is adding Saturday-only service from New York JFK to the Caribbean, with service to Grand Cayman and Kingston, on board Boeing 737-800 aircraft. Planned operation as follow.

New York JFK – Kingston
DL699 JFK1700 – 2050KIN 73H 6
DL737 KIN0800 – 1145JFK 73H

To offset any seat shortage from the other carriers (B6, BW, OJ) on the KIN-JFK route during Christmas?   
This Saturday-only JFK-KIN experiment didnt last very long the 1st time of trying. Aside from the change of equipment; planned B738 vs B757 then, what else is expected to be different this time in terms of outcome?



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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (8 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6239 times:
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Quoting LimaMike (Reply 128):
To offset any seat shortage from the other carriers (B6, BW, OJ) on the KIN-JFK route during Christmas?
This Saturday-only JFK-KIN experiment didnt last very long the 1st time of trying. Aside from the change of equipment; planned B738 vs B757 then, what else is expected to be different this time in terms of outcome?

I think, with the new departure and arrival pattern, they will be able to offer a year round service and I expect them to increase the service for 2015..I believe, its a smart move on their part as they are now able to offer more connections out of JFK and am pretty sure, this flight will connect with VS's service..

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AA will increase KIN-MIA to 4 daily in Dec..

AA MIA-KIN DEC 3>4

Also, there are changes to DFW-MBJ.
AA DFW-MBJ AUG 1.0>0.8 SEP 0.7>0.4 OCT 0.7>0.4 NOV 0.7>0.9 DEC 0.7>1.0

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A new carrier will soon operate PBI to KIN and MBJ services.

Global Air Jets (West Palm Beach Int'l) is a public charter start-up that has started offering weekly flights between West Palm Beach Int'l and Montego Bay with effect from April 20. Flights to Kingston Norman Manley are scheduled to begin on May 18 with additional destinations planned for in the future. Operations are handled by Swift Air (USA) (Q7, Phoenix Sky Harbor) with B737-400s. .


On their website, they are advertising Champagne flights..

http://www.globalairjets.com/



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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 130, posted (8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6218 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 127):
Guys, DL has returned on the trunk JFK-KIN route..
Quoting LimaMike (Reply 128):
To offset any seat shortage from the other carriers (B6, BW, OJ) on the KIN-JFK route during Christmas?   
This Saturday-only JFK-KIN experiment didnt last very long the 1st time of trying. Aside from the change of equipment; planned B738 vs B757 then, what else is expected to be different this time in terms of outcome?
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 129):
I think, with the new departure and arrival pattern, they will be able to offer a year round service and I expect them to increase the service for 2015..I believe, its a smart move on their part as they are now able to offer more connections out of JFK and am pretty sure, this flight will connect with VS's service..

Not surprised that they are back on the JFK-KIN route. This is DL we are talking about here, and they are well known for their ad-hoc, on/off/on operation to some Caribbean destinations. Let us see how it will play out this time around. Atleast they were smart enough to use a B738 as opposed to a B752. I assume JFK-GCM will also be 1x weekly with a B738 ( ? )

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 129):
AA will increase KIN-MIA to 4 daily in Dec..

AA MIA-KIN DEC 3>4

Will they be operating 4x daily this summer as well ?

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 129):
A new carrier will soon operate PBI to KIN and MBJ services.

Global Air Jets (West Palm Beach Int'l) is a public charter start-up that has started offering weekly flights between West Palm Beach Int'l and Montego Bay with effect from April 20. Flights to Kingston Norman Manley are scheduled to begin on May 18 with additional destinations planned for in the future. Operations are handled by Swift Air (USA) (Q7, Phoenix Sky Harbor) with B737-400s. .
On their website, they are advertising Champagne flights..

http://www.globalairjets.com/

Interesting. Their information on the website seem to be all over the place though. At the top it states PBI-KIN starts June 2014 Tuesday 10:00 am, while lower down on the page it states flights will operate " every Sunday " . Also it further states PBI-MBJ starts July 2014. Time will tell how this service will play out. I get the impression PBI-MBJ/KIN is a very small market, compared with the likes of say FLL/MIA or even MCO/TPA.

[Edited 2014-04-22 07:27:19]


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User currently offlinehummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 3157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (8 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 6130 times:
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Quoting airjamaica (Reply 130):
Not surprised that they are back on the JFK-KIN route. This is DL we are talking about here, and they are well known for their ad-hoc, on/off/on operation to some Caribbean destinations. Let us see how it will play out this time around. Atleast they were smart enough to use a B738 as opposed to a B752. I assume JFK-GCM will also be 1x weekly with a B738 ( ? )

JFK-GCM will operate 1 weekly..

Am happy to see the increase in traffic to KIN...This goes against the naysayers who tend to criticize the Jamaican travel market as low yielding..

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 130):
Will they be operating 4x daily this summer as well ?

I would expect them to operate the service based on past success.

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 130):
Interesting. Their information on the website seem to be all over the place though. At the top it states PBI-KIN starts June 2014 Tuesday 10:00 am, while lower down on the page it states flights will operate " every Sunday " . Also it further states PBI-MBJ starts July 2014. Time will tell how this service will play out. I get the impression PBI-MBJ/KIN is a very small market, compared with the likes of say FLL/MIA or even MCO/TPA.

This airline if marketed properly will have no problem filling this flight..People who live in South Florida can attest to the large Jamaican community in Palm Beach and surrounding counties..

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It is now confirmed, Fly Jamaica will acquire a B767-300ER that was formerly operated by North American Airlines.

Fly Jamaica Airways (OJ, Kingston Norman Manley) is to lease a B767-300(ER) from Wings Aviation as part of plans to expand its international network. The ch-aviation aircraft database shows the aircraft, N762NA (msn 24876), was formerly with North American Airlines (NA, New York JFK) and is currently in storage in Goodyear.

The Jamaican airline also leases another Wings Aviation aircraft, a B757-200, for use on scheduled and charter services between Georgetown Cheddi Jagan, Guyana, Kingston Norman Manley, New York JFK and Toronto Pearson.

http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...-b767-to-boost-international-reach



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User currently offlinejm079 From Canada, joined Jan 2008, 2374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (8 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6094 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 127):

Its a welcome addition to this market and lets not forget that KIN is growing, the demand for corporate travel to KIN is quite high thanks to Digicel and CHEC. Locating there HQ in KIN has created this demand- there is strong talk by the way that VS is considering Kingston again once the 787 joins there fleet. There is talk of summer 2016



Quoting hummingbird (Reply 131):
http://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/ne...-b767-to-boost-international-reach

Its welcome news and they need to now grow further there current route network. They have made a big impression on the Guyanese community here as the quality of there service is quite good.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6030 times:

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 131):
Am happy to see the increase in traffic to KIN...This goes against the naysayers who tend to criticize the Jamaican travel market as low yielding..
Quoting jm079 (Reply 132):
Its a welcome addition to this market and lets not forget that KIN is growing, the demand for corporate travel to KIN is quite high thanks to Digicel and CHEC. Locating there HQ in KIN has created this demand- there is strong talk by the way that VS is considering Kingston again once the 787 joins there fleet. There is talk of summer 2016

Always great to see additional services to KIN. They have billboards all over Kingston advertising their daily KIN-ATL flights, and the connecting possibilities from their home base.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 131):
This airline if marketed properly will have no problem filling this flight..People who live in South Florida can attest to the large Jamaican community in Palm Beach and surrounding counties..

Guess they will like the convenience of not having to go to MCO or FLL/MIA to catch a flight to MBJ or KIN. Again good to see KIN getting additional services.

Quoting hummingbird (Reply 131):
It is now confirmed, Fly Jamaica will acquire a B767-300ER that was formerly operated by North American Airlines.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 132):
Its welcome news and they need to now grow further there current route network. They have made a big impression on the Guyanese community here as the quality of there service is quite good. [quote]


Good to hear that aircraft # 2 is finally on the way. Have heard positive feedbacks re their in-flight services.


[quote=jm079,reply=132]there is strong talk by the way that VS is considering Kingston again once the 787 joins there fleet. There is talk of summer 2016

Heard mumblings of a VS return to KIN as well. Looking forward to them restarting KIN. And the B787 as well if they indeed decide to use that metal.



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Reply 134, posted (8 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6012 times:

Quoting jm079 (Reply 132):
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 133):
Heard mumblings of a VS return to KIN as well. Looking forward to them restarting KIN. And the B787 as well if they indeed decide to use that metal.

I would say the 333 might show up first if they did KIN.



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 135, posted (8 months 20 hours ago) and read 5964 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 133):
Always great to see additional services