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Frontier TTN Thread Part 7  
User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17791 times:
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Looks like TTN is unstoppable, F9 is adding service to MKE, MSP, and STL.. Also according to the article looking at Destinations to start in next winter. Article also says Frontier is talking to TTN about "runway considerations" for launching service to DEN.

http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...e_nonstop_cities_from_Trenton.html

[Edited 2014-02-19 06:47:26]


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17740 times:

I'm sure BRRAM is jumping with joy. By the way we; or at least I haven't heard a peep from BRRAM across the last several months. The last was a Congressional of sorts. I assume all is not well in the TTN Frontier. I doubt they've raised the   

What connects TTN to MKE, MSP and STL? TTN-STL connect the JBMDL WRI aerial terminal with their parent HQ command at Scott AFB across the river in Illinois.



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User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17713 times:
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Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 1):
By the way we; or at least I haven't heard a peep from BRRAM across the last several months. The last was a Congressional of sorts. I assume all is not well in the TTN Frontier. I doubt they've raised the

They made a peep on their facebook page about how F9 was operating illegally and get involved before its too late to stop the noise back on Jan 31 when UST was announced. But yes prior to that, we hadn't heard from them since mid november . I believe we will be hearing from the soon especially after the "runway considerations" quote.



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4995 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17696 times:

Looks like in addition to TTN, STL is also getting nonstops to PDX and SFO on F9, per their website. I wonder if F9 is going to be offering through flights to more distant points out of TTN? Might be something to consider....


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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17695 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Thread starter):
Looks like TTN is unstoppable, F9 is adding service to MKE, MSP, and STL..

According to the Facebook page they've also announced STL to PDX and SFO. But I'll leave that for the other thread



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User currently offlinesdoyon From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 240 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17593 times:

Not sure if someone has already mentioned this (there are 7 threads now for little old TTN...), but what is the max range off the 6006' runway? We know that DEN at ~1600 miles is too far, but what about DFW or IAH, both of which are about ~1350 miles. Just trying to figure out the next dots on the TTN map!

User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17577 times:

If my count is correct this makes 17 destinations from the TTN focus city when all the service inaugurates. Because F9 is a P2P carrier if I was a hotel/motel chain near the TTN airport I might start to think of marketing a F9 RON rate for passengars who fly in and out with courtesy transportation to/from the airport. I can only guess the hotel(s) may not fully comprehend the ULCC model with limited or no connecting opportunities.

Given my competition is the Philly airport I might start a shuttle service to/from TTN to McGuire AFB. For the local military population assigned to the bases but also to those who fly in and out solely to use the aerial Space-A terminal which is a major gateway to both Europe and the U.S. I see a lot of seats being used on the terminal Facebook page and this is the slow season. Perhaps this is something the TTN airport might want to sponsor or even undertake. I see a valuable return on investment.

[Edited 2014-02-19 08:36:47]


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User currently offlineFrontier14 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17574 times:

Quoting sdoyon (Reply 5):
We know that DEN at ~1600 miles is too far

It will be interesting to see if F9 will consider a one-way DEN-TTN to get aircraft there as needed. We have already seen a couple of repositioning flights routed fot this purpose.

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User currently offlineFlytravel From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 873 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17562 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 1):
What connects TTN to MKE, MSP and STL? TTN-STL connect the JBMDL WRI aerial terminal with their parent HQ command at Scott AFB across the river in Illinois.

Atleast for MSP and MKE, TTN can be used as a low fare alternative over the nonstops into PHL or EWR. Even the one-stops/connections flights from WN are expensive between PHL/EWR - MSP. F9 already services MKE, MSP and STL also.

F9 might have beat NK from launching PHL-MSP. NK's service pretty much caters to those who are desperate for a low fare when fares are very high elsewhere, but now that F9 will be offering MSP-TTN service, the potential demand for NK's offerings will be reduced.


User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17538 times:

Quoting Frontier14 (Reply 7):
We have already seen a couple of repositioning flights routed fot this purpose.

A wishlist of mine would be for F9 to fly BNA-ORD as a repositioning flight for Apple. It would be the only large jet service on the route. AA and UA fly regional jets between the two cities. It could be from TTN or any other city in the F9 system. WN flies the 73X between BNA-MDW.

I've flown AA puddle jumper service. It can get a bit cramped and bumpy if you find yourself in the midst of a Spring or Summer thunderstorm in the heartland.



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User currently offlineJerseyguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17512 times:
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Quoting Frontier14 (Reply 7):
It will be interesting to see if F9 will consider a one-way DEN-TTN to get aircraft there as needed. We have already seen a couple of repositioning flights routed fot this purpose.

Well according to the article about the new service that was announced today "Frontier is looking at adding more leisure destinations from Trenton next winter and is talking with Trenton and Mercer County officials about airspace and runway considerations to possibly begin flights to Denver, Shurz said, in a telephone interview."

Talking about "runway considerations", Dare I dream that means lengthening the runway? What other runway consideration could their be.



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17478 times:

Since the DOT 2013 Q3 numbers have just been released..... I sorted through them for the TTN info, and it is as such..... just remember F9 is the only airline involved, so a dropped a lot of columns to show only basic info:

City …… Pax …… Av. Fare …… Miles

ATL …… 112 …… $126.21 ….. 701
CHI …… 143 …… $119.02 ….. 693
CMH …… 51 ….. $89.04 …... 428
DTW …… 99 ….. $98.62 …... 464
MCO …. 106 … $136.99 …... 896
RSW …. 48 ….. $132.10 ….. 1,028
FLL ……. 63 ….. $126.58 ….. 1,047
TPA …… 78 ….. $123.61 ….. 955
MSY …… 32 ….. $103.11 ….. 1,123
RDU …… 101 …… $91.52 ….. 373

I guess that we can see why F9 dropped both MSY and CMH, and the 3rd quarter isn't exactly Florida flying time. And from another site

http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/F4SDetailQuery#SUBMIT

is showing TTN having 90% plus (up to 95% with MDW) load factors for July 2013.

Now, the big, big, validation of all of this..... when do the quarterly reports for F9 get released?

 

[Edited 2014-02-19 09:33:25]

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17410 times:

Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 6):

Given my competition is the Philly airport I might start a shuttle service to/from TTN to McGuire AFB. For the local military population assigned to the bases but also to those who fly in and out solely to use the aerial Space-A terminal which is a major gateway to both Europe and the U.S. I see a lot of seats being used on the terminal Facebook page and this is the slow season.

Gent, this is the company used by civilian and uniform personnel at MDL.

http://www.rapidrover.com/

They're a South Jersey Company, TTN might be outside of their territory.



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24996 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (5 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 17412 times:
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Quoting point2point (Reply 11):
Now, the big, big, validation of all of this..... when do the quarterly reports for F9 get released?

Will they be? Frontier is no longer a publicly listed company.

I suppose they'll be available somewhere, but I can't imagine what anyone is expecting. I mean, why does TTN need validating? It's Indigo's money.

mariner

[Edited 2014-02-19 10:33:10]


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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17368 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 13):
Will they be? Frontier is no longer a publicly listed company.

Hmmmm.... good info here, I neglected to think that now they are a private company.

Quoting mariner (Reply 13):
I mean, I suppose they'll be available somewhere, but I can't imagine what anyone is expecting. I mean, why does TTN need validating?

I personally would just like to know (as if it's really my business, eh?) if F9 has finally found someplace that they could fly outside of DEN and actually be cash positive. This would be a milestone, if so, I think that we could agree on that point. Just better to actually see it in writing somehow, I guess.

Nonetheless, I think that we all know that in the past when F9 ventured beyond DEN it usually costs them some pretty pennies, and I also would want to see F9 do well, not just for my own convenience of having choice with local air service, but also for the employees. And maybe you can agree with me with this point that every time F9 has announced expansion ex-DEN, I've gotten shivers down my spine (well, a bit drastic, but) and hopefully the TTN expansion will finally be different in this manner.

However, with that, all of these new expansions ex-DEN and ex-TTN have me sorta in that above condition....... CLE-SEA/etc...... STL-SFO/etc......really? Hopefully this new Indigo F9 knows what they're doing with these, or that they haven't invested that much into this yet so that losses won't be that drastic (if these flights don't catch, eh?)

Anyways my friends.......

 


User currently offlinetrianglegis21 From United States of America, joined Dec 2013, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17366 times:

Interesting numbers, point2point. BTW, where can I access the 3Q data? I actually need the numbers for a case study that I'm working on for UNC and RDU. Also, I'm pleasantly surprised about how well RDU-TTN is doing in terms of passenger numbers. Apparently the July load factor number was up to 94%, and considering how little advertising there has been in my area about the new service, it seems really encouraging to me.

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Reply 16, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17340 times:
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Quoting point2point (Reply 14):
I personally would just like to know (as if it's really my business, eh?) if F9 has finally found someplace that they could fly outside of DEN and actually be cash positive

I'm sure we'd all like to know, but it is, indeed, none of our business.

It's also dangerous.

People are notorious headline rapists and often don't read the fine print. Indigo is spending $30 million on the new slimline seats, for example, which will affect the bottom line. Now - you and I may understand it's a special charge, but not everyone will.

Quoting point2point (Reply 14):
And maybe you can agree with me with this point that every time F9 has announced expansion ex-DEN, I've gotten shivers down my spine (well, a bit drastic, but) and hopefully the TTN expansion will finally be different in this manner.

TTN has seen nothing but expansion since it began - just fifteen months ago - and that is surely different from most of the other non-DEN experiments. I assume it will take some time for that to pay off - we used to give routes two years to turn a buck, but that seems to be out the window these days.

As long as Indigo is happy, isn't that all that matters? No one is asking the public to invest in this.

mariner



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17339 times:

Quoting trianglegis21 (Reply 15):

Interesting numbers, point2point. BTW, where can I access the 3Q data?

Here you go......

This site is the DOT site, and use Table 6 that lists all route pairs in the continental U.S. with at least an average of 10 to/from pax daily in the continental U.S. Just a couple of items here is that 1) routes are only listed once, for example you'll find DEN-BNA, and that will include info for both ways.... so then you won't find BNA-DEN. I actually don't know under which one you'll find this, but it will be listed only once, and 2) Table 1a is for metro areas such as NYC, Chicago, LA, D.C. and a few others are listed with multiple airports in this table. So if you see something like BNA-ONT will be the total all of the five (I think, LAX, BUR, LGB, SNA as well as ONT) airports involved here, so that information (listed once) will be for BNA to all of the (what the DOT considers) LA airports. There's a chart (or something) in all of this that explains what airports are involved in what metro areas. However, adding to this, if one pulls up Table 1A, this table gives you the breakdown of all of the metro area airports and other airports. The link is below, and may all of the above make sense.

http://www.dot.gov/policy/aviation-p...stic-airline-fares-consumer-report

I also like to use this site below, in that I'm sure the info is somewhere in the DOT figures (because I guess that from where this site gets the info) but it's broken down is such a way that makes it convenient for me.

http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/F4SDetailQuery#HELP_SCREEN

May this answer the question, and feel free to ask any more questions. Have fun.

 





[Edited 2014-02-19 11:13:33]

User currently offlinetrianglegis21 From United States of America, joined Dec 2013, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17309 times:

Is there any way that I can split the metro area data so that I can isolate traffic to certain airports? As an example, I'd like to see how many passengers are flying from RDU-SFO rather than RDU-San Francisco metro area.

User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17300 times:

Quoting trianglegis21 (Reply 18):
Is there any way that I can split the metro area data so that I can isolate traffic to certain airports? As an example, I'd like to see how many passengers are flying from RDU-SFO rather than RDU-San Francisco metro area.

Use Table 1a.......

(sorry, good thing that you asked since I didn't list up above, but fixed now)

 

[Edited 2014-02-19 11:14:27]

User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24996 posts, RR: 85
Reply 20, posted (5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 17283 times:
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Here's a fun one. The NJ.com is running a poll - where should Frontier fly to next from Trenton?

http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...xt_for_trenton-mercer_airport.html

"Poll: Where should Frontier Airlines fly next from Trenton-Mercer Airport?"

Understand they they may not know about the range restrictions at TTN, but what's mostly interesting is that DEN isn't the first choice in the popular vote, nor the second.  

mariner



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User currently offlineGentFromAlaska From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3052 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17260 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 12):
They're a South Jersey Company, TTN might be outside of their territory.

Yeah I was made aware of Rapid Rover on the MDL Facebook page. They are the option from the base(s) to PHL. As best I can tell there is nothing established between the base (MDL) and TTN. I'm also under the impression MDL does use their own government van for a periodic trip to PHL for new arrivals. I was lead to believe its a duty section run and not something scheduled.

Quoting point2point (Reply 17):
I also like to use this site below, in that I'm sure the info is somewhere in the DOT figures (because I guess that from where this site gets the info) but it's broken down is such a way that makes it convenient for me.

http://aviationdb.net/aviationdb/F4SDetailQuery#HELP_SCREEN

May this answer the question, and feel free to ask any more questions. Have fun.

The aviation-db site breaks service down to Domestic, International and Latin America. if you aren't careful you could corrupt your data. If you are looking solely for lower 48 flying. Alaska for some strange reason is considered international at least to F9. To borrow the Texas pun "It a whole other country I suppose"



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 17201 times:

Quoting mariner (Reply 20):
Understand they they may not know about the range restrictions at TTN, but what's mostly interesting is that DEN isn't the first choice in the popular vote, nor the second.

Maybe when all of the NJ potheads wake up and remember that they want to vote here in this, and if they do remember to do it, maybe DEN will get to the #1 position?

 
Quoting GentFromAlaska (Reply 21):
The aviation-db site breaks service down to Domestic, International and Latin America. if you aren't careful you could corrupt your data. If you are looking solely for lower 48 flying. Alaska for some strange reason is considered international at least to F9. To borrow the Texas pun "It a whole other country I suppose"

I do agree here in that somehow, this site's numbers and numbers from other sites aren't the same when they should be. However, I've usually found them close enough and there may be some reasons that I haven't figured out for the discrepancies (e.g. are non fare-paying pax counted, etc?), but again, I think that to a certain extent they give a good picture of the situation, even though they may somehow not be exactly in sync with other sources.



 


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16810 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 17172 times:

How about Nassau, it has a US customs pre-clearence station.

Quoting mariner (Reply 20):
Here's a fun one. The NJ.com is running a poll - where should Frontier fly to next from Trenton?

I voted for Dallas.



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 24996 posts, RR: 85
Reply 24, posted (5 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 17160 times:
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Quoting STT757 (Reply 23):
How about Nassau, it has a US customs pre-clearence station.

Now you're talking. Not only does it have pre-clearance - but it is also within range.

I'd love to see it, especially remembering that Princeton is called Old Nassau, as is the Princeton song, and the first building is Nassau Hall - then there's Nassau Street and the Nassau Inn.

Hey, why not?  

mariner

[Edited 2014-02-19 12:44:32]


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25 GentFromAlaska : I realize new routes are ultimately up to the F9. If the TTN airport had any say-so in route selection I ponder if they might pullback some knowing t
26 GentFromAlaska : point2point posted an article in the other F9 thread (thank you). As it relates to TTN this part caught my attention specifically the last sentence "D
27 Post contains images mariner : That article may be one of the most confusing I have ever read - Frontier is shrinking and growing at the same time? But - to your question: So far t
28 Jerseyguy : I believe they have because I believe they mean will start service not necessarily be announced. 1. CLE 2.CVG 3. CLT 4.UST 5.IND 6.BNA 7. MKE 8 MSP 9
29 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Courtesy poster point2point: If you look at the third chart here http://www.anna.aero/2014/02/19/fron...er-airlines-turns-20-this-february F9 has pul
30 Jerseyguy : STL flight times are interesting TTN 1005pm STL 1120pm. Guess they really are trying for more utilization of the plane.
31 Jerseyguy : This is great news for Trenton as it really opens up alot of flights that wouldn't have been possible and it addition to that will save fuel costs on
32 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : http://skyvector.com/airport/TTN/Trenton-Mercer-Airport shows potential obstacles at least on the airport property. If there are cell or utility tower
33 Post contains links MasseyBrown : DoT requires quarterly financial reports from all airlines with revenues over $20 million, whether privately owned or not. Frontier will be filing ju
34 Post contains links and images point2point : From the F9 fact sheet, http://news.flyfrontier.com/sites/fr...ss_kit/file/Fact_Sheet_12-4-13.pdf it states the F9 operates more than 200 daily fligh
35 MasseyBrown : F9 might try bringing back "night coach" flying on the East Coast. It used to be fairly popular on north-south routes After-9PM (in some cities, 10PM
36 Post contains links mariner : To the DOT, yes, but because there is no public money involved they don't have to make them available to the public - unless they want to - they don'
37 Post contains links and images mariner : That was quick - LOL: Frontier To Announce 4 New Routes From Denver (by UNITED91 Feb 21 2014 in Civil Aviation) mariner
38 Frontier14 : You are probably in the ball park. F9 as of recent has run as many as 240+ flights during certain weekdays and on Saturdays sometimes in the 160s. Fr
39 GentFromAlaska : For aviation fans around the greater TTN area the Trenton airport has posted the following invitation to thier Facebook page. Tomorrow - February 22nd
40 Frontier14 : Does anyone know if Frontier has their own mechanics at TTN or is it contract? I have been unsuccessful in finding an answer so far. Thanks Frontier 1
41 Post contains images mariner : Here's a nice wee surprise. TTN-CLE was announced as 2 x weekly, to go 4 x weekly in late May. TTN-BNA was announced as 3 x weekly - Monday, Wednesday
42 GentFromAlaska : And a 1000 (10:00 A.M.) departure to boot. If the equipment allows they might want to back the new Sunday flight two weeks earlier to Sunday June 1 t
43 Post contains images Jerseyguy : And they moved the 630 and 730 am departures on Mon/Wed/Fri to 815am, I guess they did get my emails
44 Post contains images GentFromAlaska : Who says suggestions don't work.
45 Jerseyguy : As of June 13th there are atleast 10 flights a day with 11 on Wed/Fri/Sun, better get the parking and the terminal expansion going.[Edited 2014-02-23
46 Flytravel : I wonder if F9 at TTN will surpass NK at ACY? In destinations served year-round, I'm sure, but NK has more frequencies to esp. to markets like FLL. I
47 Post contains links mariner : I think this is a first - Frontier is having a two day open house to recruit f/a's in the Trenton area: http://planetprinceton.com/2014/02/2...ines-re
48 GentFromAlaska : The passport requirement will be the show stopper for many. It can take 4-6 weeks to receive a passport through normal channels. Unfortunately March
49 Jerseyguy : Your right, most young people don't get passports as they don't travel much outside the country. I know I let my passport lapse and I'm not even in t
50 Frontier14 : For those who may be selected the next class will probably start around the first week of April. It is my understanding that the class is four weeks.
51 Post contains images mariner : It's never been an issue at other Open Houses at other places - so many applied they've often had to turn people away, and all those accepted had pas
52 Post contains links n75jyv : I think you may underestimate the number of young people with passports in the greater Mercer County area. Given our proximity to major international
53 GentFromAlaska : Perhaps they will extend the passport requirement through to the actual date of hire. I liken this to having to provide college transcripts to a HR h
54 Jerseyguy : Still alot of money but not $200 Passports are $135 for a new passport and $60 to expedite so with the expedite fee its $195.
55 Frontier14 : Gent, if the recent F9 flight attendant job fairs in DEN and MCO are any indication, the TTN one will be too. The aura of flying around the country a
56 Post contains images Jerseyguy : Over on the other major travel board, some one wrote that they were having problems again with parking issues. Travelers are now illegally parking in
57 Post contains links and images mariner : They are - slowly - moving ahead with it. This is an account of an address to the Freeholders about the airport - with some fairly mind-boggling pass
58 Post contains images point2point : Wow! It seems that both TTN and F9 have some ambition here, projecting a 2 1/3 increase over the next three years. So if they're now at about and ave
59 Post contains images Jerseyguy : If this is indeed what Frontier and Mercer County intend to do I think they would be planning on doing it via a new terminal as the required modifica
60 Post contains links Jerseyguy : Its appears I may have jumped the gun and Mercer County Executives are responding quickly to the parking situation. For that I apologize for my commen
61 GentFromAlaska : Do the new service announced at TTN account for the 70 weekly flights F9 will be flying in June or should we expect more. Citing the rule of averages
62 Post contains links Jerseyguy : No Saturday is the winner and if by handful you mean the number of fingers on a hand then yes its a little less than that at 9. TTN Departures- Sun-1
63 Post contains links and images Jerseyguy : From Town Topics a Princeton area community newspaper http://www.towntopics.com/wordpress/...thriving-at-trentonmercer-airport/ On the lighter side of
64 Post contains images point2point : Is this now Colorado Freudian slip talk? It is a good one.......
65 Post contains images mariner : I liked this quote: "In January, not historically the best month, we filled 91.5 percent of our seats out of Trenton.” mariner
66 GentFromAlaska : In Alaska we have combat fishing. In N.J. combat parking I suppose. I liken it to going to a shopping mall around the greater D.C. area the day befor
67 Jerseyguy : Currently there are only 5 flights leaving on Saturday, all of which are FL fligjhts (FLL, MCO X2, TPA, RSW), perhaps thats what the FB page was refe
68 Jerseyguy : My brother has a client in little rock and it wasn;t till recently that AA offerred a LGA nonstop to LIT. I can't figure out the PDEW on my phone for
69 Post contains images point2point : NYC-LIT = 86 PDEW PHL-LIT = 30 PDEW Q3 2013..... I think that this is much too small a market...... besides, I think Bill and Hillary can get a priva
70 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Not to take away from the good work several posters have made to keep us updated about F9 flights at TTN. I was playing with http://www.flightradar24.
71 Post contains links Jerseyguy : Thank you for the adfditional resource but I prefer flightstats.com, you can see the previous day (all of it not just 24hrs before) and can also see
72 Post contains images Jerseyguy : BRRAM still not happy even with the noise study From Facebook: "Please see article below: If residents of PA don't think this is going to negatively i
73 Post contains links Jerseyguy : This will probably give a bit more ammo to the NIMBYs because some of the tax increase is attributed to the airport but really when you look at it, 3.
74 GentFromAlaska : "$13 million in improvements this year, including more parking and improving a runway to allow Frontier Airlines’ planes to fly to destinations acro
75 Jerseyguy : The best explanation of how longer flights will be accomplished I've seen is from a poster on Flyertalk "On a short runway your takeoff weight is lim
76 Post contains images n75jyv : I think the runway improvements still relate to the reduction of the tree and cell phone obstacles on the 24 end. Based on what I have been able to f
77 Post contains links and images Jerseyguy : (What, you live near the airport and your life hasn't been impacted to cataclysmic proportions with your house shaking and the walls feeling like the
78 Post contains images n75jyv : Thanks, that helps clear things up. So those NIMBYs don't have to worry about A319s screaming over their homes at low altitude, except for that occas
79 GentFromAlaska : I'll do my best to let you know this later this Summer. The stomping grounds where I spent quite a bit of time CKV is a general aviation regional air
80 Post contains images Jerseyguy : I have no problems with taking BRRAM seriously with a spokesperson like this (Yes, this really is their spokesperson and this is currently her Faceboo
81 Frontier14 : My, my, my the photo is not complimentary. We can now understand a bit of the anti TTN flavor that lives across the river. Perhaps the overhead fligh
82 Post contains images Jerseyguy : Just to be clear she is making a face in that photo but she did make it her profile photo..so.. The organization (BRRAM) Facebook page only has 46 li
83 Post contains images point2point : As I was looking at the map of the runways at TTN to get some perspective on all of this, I noticed that the 6 end of the runway has an elevation of
84 Post contains links mariner : Jerseyguy talked about the new crew base at TTN in the other thread, but the press release might be useful here: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2014/03
85 GentFromAlaska : You almost have to think a pilot base at TTN can be too far away. There are what three F/A per flight and two pilots.
86 Jerseyguy : You read my flyertalk post apparently re the posting of the FA base "Bad News for the SpringHill Suites by Marriott EWING PRINCETON SOUTH, guess they
87 Post contains links and images n75jyv : Now someone is worried about bird strikes in a letter to the editor of the Trenton Times: Describing our local population of geese, migratory birds, a
88 Post contains links mariner : Hmmm. The worst bird strike Frontier ever had was was taking off from Kansas City - MCI - more than 1000 miles from LGA: http://www.denverpost.com/ne
89 Post contains links Jerseyguy : To be clear the home that Mr. Wood owns in Lawerence Township is not near a flight path, however he may visit Mercer Meadows County Park where the bi
90 GentFromAlaska : Does that include snowbirds migrating to Florida?
91 Post contains links Jerseyguy : LOL BTW I created a unoffical website for TTN with detailed information and news. If your in this thread odds are you are very interested in Trenton
92 Post contains images point2point : Wow! Checked out the website, and I'll only mention it once as well..... but if you created this.... you did an EXCELLENT job. It's easy to use, simp
93 Post contains links Jerseyguy : Thank you At this point, I would probably think it best to confine all comments to me via PM or the email on the site as to not have warrant any inte
94 Flytravel : I doubt WN, NK, UA or AA/US would have interest in TTN. WN-not interested in low service to small airports. NK-already at ACY and PHL. UA and US have
95 Post contains links mariner : Good editorial about the airport's growth: http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/...h_frontier_airlines_expansion.html "Editorial: Trenton-Mercer Airpor
96 Jerseyguy : ORH was done as a favor to Massport, just as UA did the Port Authority one by service to ACY. Small possibility of TTN-FLL as a substitute for PHL-FL
97 GentFromAlaska : Courtesy the OAG thread: UA ANC-SEA JUN 2>0.3 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0 SEP 1.9>0 OCT 1.8>0 NOV 1.8>0 Perhaps an opportunity for F9 TTN-BLI-AN
98 Jerseyguy : One thing I didn't realize was the amount collected as a PFC roughly $3.6 million and parking $2.5 to 3.0 million. Though I'm not 100% of how that is
99 Post contains images point2point : PFC, or Passenger Facility Charge, is charged upon the Enplaned passenger. So with that I would imagine that with a roundtrip ticket TTN-MCO, when th
100 wjcandee : Just looked at it. I lived in Princeton for a while in the 80s, so I know the airport and area well. That's a very nice, accurate, and informative we
101 Post contains images Jerseyguy : I don't know if its a compliment saying I have a better website than the PANYNJ . But seriously, thank you I have been receiving a pretty good amount
102 Jerseyguy : Ok, here's an interesting thing I found while doing some research. I found a cab service out of Trenton who publishes their rates on their website and
103 Jerseyguy : Got an email response from the company that the typical rate from the Trenton Transit Center to the airport is $20-$25. So I guess they must be licens
104 Post contains links Jerseyguy : It was reported as far away as England with UK's Daily Mail reporting on the story. A housing complex 1.1 miles from TTN was rocked by an explosion th
105 wjcandee : Just goes to show that there are many other dangers in everyday life besides living near an airport. That job was being done by a major utility const
106 n75jyv : I was on my way to Hamilton Station to catch a train about 1:30. Had been hearing sirens before I left the house, but that can be typical. On I-295,
107 Jerseyguy : at the beginning a few questions about what that smoke is from the pilots. Trenton Tower says they felt something. Then after like 10-15 miinutes the
108 GentFromAlaska : I heard it was underground natural gas line explosion which was nicked by a utility worker earlier. The explosion occured when a second repair attemp
109 Post contains links Jerseyguy : Well this may answer the question a bit http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/...r-past-year-for-safety-violations/ Also heard on ATC an aircraft saw t
110 MasseyBrown : I'm new to this thread - sorry if this has been discussed before: I think Toronto might be a nice addition to the TTN network. To improve station util
111 Post contains images Flytravel : I don't think any one has mentioned YYZ, but BUF/IAG have been mentioned The latest additions though are more dot connecting to cities where F9 alrea
112 Post contains images mariner : If we're talking about Canada proper rather than the border cities, I vote for YUL. BUT - since Frontier is in f/a hiring mode, I'd love to see 'em d
113 Frontier14 : I too had thought that PIT would be logical. However, after reading about the SW PIT -PHL flights (before they were cancelled) I now hope they do not
114 Flytravel : WN was running 4x daily. With the US response on that, with also low fares and more seats as well, that was too much capacity but a 4-5x weekly to 1x
115 Post contains links Jerseyguy : Avis and Budget have reappeared in the Ronson Aviation building at TTN and provide a shuttle to the location approximately 1 mile away from the termin
116 mariner : So how does it work, do you know? Is there an Avis rep at the airport itself, or a desk or a telephone hotline so you can let me know you're there an
117 Jerseyguy : my impression is that they run the shuttle during the times the flights arrive. I don't think there is a phone there, people are expected to use thei
118 GentFromAlaska : Sir, is there any advantage e.g. cost savings for renting off the airport at/nearTTN as to in the airport. Sometimes airport rental operations are so
119 Jerseyguy : Both charge an airport fee (both are on airport property), national calls it "airport access fee" and budget calls it a concession fee, National clai
120 GentFromAlaska : Are there any known rental car companies off the airport? A mile or two or three where a taxi could be used from the airport to the off the airport r
121 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : This might explain some of RDU popularity from TTN. I wanted to pass it along as a possible guide to the city http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/tr...r
122 Jerseyguy : There is a Hertz a few miles away near an office park but they have limited hours 930-430pm and the savings is like $20 in a week, highly not worth i
123 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Offered as a add-on Hertz to my understanding is AAA preferred rental car operator nationwide. AAA offers an additional $35 discount on a weekly rent
124 Jerseyguy : Coupons can be found for National, Budget and Avis too (between $25-30 off for weekly). In some bigger airports, that trick works but TTN is too smal
125 Post contains links Jerseyguy : According to the article below, they received 99 applicants 38 of which are continuing further in the interview process, they have another day today.
126 GentFromAlaska : I was informed this morning F9 waives the checked luggage fees for active duty military with proper credentials for official or leisure travel across
127 Jerseyguy : Unfortunately McGuire doesn't have great bus connections and the only reason PHL is easy is due to Rapid Rover civilian airport shuttle. It would eith
128 Post contains links jerseyguy : TTN (the airport) has not yet made a profit, though it had been losing money for years. Surprisingly according to the figures from the parking revenue
129 MasseyBrown : TTN's finances are unusual. According to the FAA CATS data, TTN holds neither depreciable property nor debt. I'm not sure how this benefits either the
130 mariner : I dunno where the newspapers find these "analysts" - the one quoted in the article is just bollocks. "As the economy recovers, air travel will contin
131 Frontier14 : Noticed on the OAG thread that SW is pulling down their nonstops PHL - FLL and PHL - RSW drops to once a week. This could present more TTN capacity to
132 jerseyguy : With all of this build up in CLE, perhaps if more cities were announced one of them would line up with a west coast city for a connection. PHX and SEA
133 GentFromAlaska : I'd look for something where WN doesn't fly TYS-CLE perhaps on the heels of TYS-MDW. It would have been neat had F9 opted for CLE-CHA vs CLE-ATL. I s
134 Flytravel : Perhaps even launching service on ILG-FLL. While F9 might have been reluctant because of a fare war down at BWI with NK and WN both selling under $10
135 jerseyguy : CHA doesn't have the population that TTN has. CHA can be an alternate for some of the Northern NW Atlanta suburbs. Marietta is 1:30 from CHA so that
136 MasseyBrown : I think at this time F9 is trying to improve their efficiency at low-frequency airports like ATL rather than add new one-route cities. (This idea mak
137 mariner : Not to me - I don't think it is just "one thing." Yes, I agree with you about ATL, but I don't think it is just that. - I think they're doing more th
138 Post contains images Frontier14 : I suspect they did get a pretty good deal to set up shop there. The "sunshine destinations" of Florida cater especially to the right coast and midwes
139 MasseyBrown : The Jax/StAugustine area isn't really a winter destination. The weather isn't reliably warm until March. The "shoulder" seasons are the best (March-M
140 Post contains images mariner : Just in time for Spring Break at Daytona Beach. mariner .
141 GentFromAlaska : DAB doesn't have the popularity as a spring break location it had 15-20 years ago. The focus has shifted west some. The new favorite is Corpus Christ
142 Post contains links mariner : It's still on: http://www.dbspringbreak.com And with only three flights a week, Frontier doesn't need too big of a crowd. mariner
143 jerseyguy : As far as the spring break crowd goes the one thing UST has going against it is the fact that you probably need to rent a car and thats the under 25
144 mariner : All true - UST is fifty six miles from Daytona Beach - and I can't imagine Spring Breakers at UST, it's a different crowd. Nor do I think the flights
145 MasseyBrown : Is there a physical limit to what F9 can do at TTN pending physical expansion? Are they close to it?
146 jerseyguy : If they move the sherriffs office and airport admin offices, they'd have plenty of space, but the sherriffs office won't want to move so they will ex
147 MasseyBrown : Thanks, jersey guy. Is it fair to say something like 15 flights per day is the near-term limit?
148 jerseyguy : That would be fair to say, though they could bring in modular trailers ala LGB. Though I can't imagine that it will continue to grow at the rate it h
149 Post contains links jerseyguy : Frontier is running another hiring day to finish their hiring of FAs They supposedly hired 38 and are looking to open up the base with atleast 50. htt
150 Post contains images jerseyguy : I think I have a pretty good idea of where they are going to be putting the temporary 650 space lot. There is a piece of grass between the the thresho
151 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : If F9 can inaugurate their TTN-BNA service a few days earlier They might be able to sway a few travelers to fly into BNA for this http://paristn.gov/i
152 MasseyBrown : I asked the FAA why TTN hasn't filed their FAA Forms 126 and 127 for 2013 yet. Every other airport I've checked has done so. According to the FAA, it
153 Post contains images jerseyguy : Probably because they haven't had time to have 17 freeholders meetings about it and Lucy Walter hasn't had the time to complain about it and how she
154 Post contains images MasseyBrown : The thing is, the data for the FAA is probably already available from other reports they have had to make to bond trustees, New Jersey, etc.
155 jerseyguy : Also they probably have bigger fish to fry then to do a report thats not due yet. I'd rather them deal with Parking and Gate space issues. No offense,
156 Post contains links mariner : Here's a headline you don't often see - LOL: http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...unty_official_thinks_frontier.html "Southwest suspends local fligh
157 GentFromAlaska : I would think ILG; not TTN would be the benefiting airport here.
158 mariner : I think the more important point could be that it may help prevent leakage from the TTN catchment area to PHL. Frontier does not yet fly ILG-FLL, whi
159 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : It appears Governor Chirs Christie is flying to BNA on May 30 to be the keynote speaker at the 2014 Statesmen's dinner in Nashville. I'm curious if he
160 Post contains images point2point : I think that he has a helicopter........ would that be able to get him to Nashville?
161 SurfandSnow : In addition to this, I think PBI could be a great addition from TTN/ILG (if only seasonally). They could even resume the niche DEN-PBI route, this ti
162 Flytravel : TTN is very accessible from most of the Philly market, with the exception of maybe the far western side : Chester Co. and Delaware where it's somewhat
163 mariner : Good stuff, thanks. I'd be interested to know how much Frontier is pulling from there, just as I'd be interested to know the take-up rate of Early Re
164 bjorn14 : A little bit OT but what is the near term capacity at ILG and will F9 be as big as TTN? Just a quick observation. I think TTN is textbook example for
165 Post contains images point2point : Just my understanding of probably of mostly what is posted here, is it that ILG just doesn't have the draw that TTN has? TTN is somewhat more remote
166 mariner : Very largely, it is a question of aircraft availability, and the (sudden and unexpected?) opportunity at CLE has strained that to the max. I am still
167 jerseyguy : Well they have 1 gate and 1 hardstand for parking. The gate area can hold 1 A320 load of passengers comfortably MAX 1.5 A320 loads. I don't think you
168 Post contains images point2point : So from this, that basically at present, ILG is limited by its own facilities? And without any moving or tearing down walls, or some new concrete, or
169 jerseyguy : Yes, the biggest problem there is parking, however if what appears on google maps is correct there are a couple of free grassy areas to build more pa
170 Post contains links mariner : Here's an article about TTN - from the view of Atlantic City - ACY: http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/b...a-b3ca-11e3-9db5-0019bb2963f4.html "Frontie
171 jerseyguy : ACY has felt like Trenton is a competitor for awhile now, last Fall ACY had a billboard up on I-95 south just prior to the general aviation exit (exit
172 GentFromAlaska : It did for me it let me know Brian Hughes is wooing other airlines for TTN which I find very interesting. I suppose it's his job. I could accept two
173 jerseyguy : I didn't see that at all I saw it as he was trying to make the airport seem more impressive, he is not talking seriously with any other airlines. The
174 GentFromAlaska : Perhaps my use of wooing may have been to strong of a descriptive. For clarity he did say according to the article "Hughes remains confident that mor
175 jerseyguy : I think it is more of a future statement like when the new terminal is built rather than anything soon. Part of thr allure for Frontier is the exclusi
176 jerseyguy : $18 fare sale out of TTN for their "maiden voyages" to/from IND and BNA April 29 (IND) and April 30th (BNA) Apr 29 F9 0961 11:00 AM 12:50 PM TTN-IND A
177 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : For anybody who needs a reason to fly to TTN-UST The band Boston from the 1980's is playing St. Augustine on June 7. http://www.ticketmaster.com/BOSTO
178 STT757 : Looking to take the family to Florida for vacation late Summer or early Fall. I've checked UA, DL, B6 and WN from EWR, JFK, LGA, PHL etc.. F9 from TTN
179 jerseyguy : TTN is a good option. Its a no-frills airport don't expect much other than the basics. There is a restaurant on the upper floor of the terminal and a
180 GentFromAlaska : For the sake of thoroughness you might want to also look at ILG either outbound or returning because it appears to be in your backyard. I priced ILG-
181 Post contains links jerseyguy : News about TTN today: Study reveals TTN is the fastest growing regional airport in the US http://www.trentonian.com/general-ne...-fastest-growing-airp
182 GentFromAlaska : With all of the expansion at TTN. Do we know if F9 has opened or intends to open administrative offices off the airport. I don't expect it to be anyt
183 jerseyguy : The work they are planning on the terminal will include space that Frontier will rent. There is also space available at the FBO Ronson Aviation that
184 Post contains images GentFromAlaska : Thanks for keeping us in the know.
185 Post contains links jerseyguy : An article with a bit more information on the growth study http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...wing_domestic_operation_in_us.html Frontier attracts
186 GentFromAlaska : At least in the short term it looks like F9 TTN-BNA route which inaugurates at the end of this month may be having an effect on WN EWR-BNA fares; at l
187 jerseyguy : In May, BNA-TTN is showing a bunch of $58 fares. TTN-BNA is showing a reasonable amount of $79 fares. If one were to get the lowest prices it would b
188 GentFromAlaska : The fares have also come down in the BNA-DCA market. I think US has wound up some new non-stop regional jet service between DCA-BNA which was never p
189 jerseyguy : If you do go to TTN, dont forget about Avis/Budget at the FBO. They do offer a shuttle and they are the cheaper of the two. aAlso have more coupons a
190 bjorn14 : Does ILG have any room to expand/build a new terminal?
191 jerseyguy : I've only been there a couple of times, but based on what I saw they have room to expand the gate area via renovations. As far as a new terminal goes
192 Post contains links mariner : There's an article about Frontier at CLE in CAPA, but along the way it says some stuff about TTN http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...sting-test-for
193 jerseyguy : Also seems to look more highly on TTN then it does CLE. Though all of the statements are correct in that regard.
194 mariner : There is factual evidence (official load factors) to support TTN - CLE is more of an unknown (for Frontier) and they're hedging their bets - and miss
195 Post contains links jerseyguy : After 1500 posts about TTN on a.net, you guys might be intrested as to what it looks like in something a bit more 3D than a picture. Here's a short vi
196 MasseyBrown : Thanks for posting that. Where is security?
197 jerseyguy : Thats only part of the airport. But when I first walk in (perhaps if you pause it at 0:03), all the way to the back to where the "fence" is, to the l
198 Post contains links mariner : The money for more changes at TTN terminal has been approved: http://www.trentonian.com/government...funds-to-begin-airport-renovations "Freeholders a
199 jerseyguy : It has to be in there, the expansion is a priority because its necessary for proper operations, no way 2 plane loads of people are fitting in the bag
200 Post contains links jerseyguy : A review of TTN has been posted on a Philadelphia based parenting support blog named "Hipster Henry", an overall positive review of the airport http:/
201 Post contains images GentFromAlaska : Glad to hear this. I had addressed this in a earlier post. I thought the airport terminal infrastructure had to be at capacity to support the influx
202 Post contains images jerseyguy : If they do that, do you have to tip when they get your bag (even though you paid for to transport it).
203 MasseyBrown : At DCA, you better tip the curb-check guys if you ever want to see your bag again. It's almost a shake-down.
204 GentFromAlaska : Good point; I suppose it would mirror a curbside skycap or tipping a courtesy van shuttle driver. A carry-on might be the way to go. I suppose we cou
205 Post contains links n75jyv : GA aircraft off runway 24 at TTN this evening. From the photo it looks just past the runway intersection. No injuries. http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.
206 Post contains images jerseyguy : Was at TTN today and noticed they were putting in entry and exit gates in the remote lot. Guess this means that they will be reopening it and using th
207 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Courtesy flyertalk. com Travel Alert: AirTrain Service at Newark Airport to Be Suspended for 75 Days If you plan on being at Newark International Airp
208 Post contains images jerseyguy : Or as they say at Frontier, Another reason why "Flying from Newark is Work" Good news for TTN. Indeed, perhaps people will try TTN and see how easy i
209 GentFromAlaska : PHL must be taking the F9 TTN threat seriously. Across the last two days I've received no less than three emails from travelocity.com advertising disc
210 Post contains links jerseyguy : BRAAM to file lawsuit in Trenton Federal District Court http://www.buckslocalnews.com/articl...d5996421288.txt?viewmode=fullstory With the few number
211 jerseyguy : I dont believe they have an agreement to sell tickets with Travelocity. I think just Priceline and orbitz are left. Does anyone have an rough idea ho
212 GentFromAlaska : I've never dealt with an airport; I was involved in a EIS for the construction of a Coast Guard helipad in semi-rural Alasak a few years ago. I've be
213 Post contains links jerseyguy : From a September 2013 article regarding BRRAMs claim that TTN needed to do a EIS when F9 arrived http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...enton-mercer_
214 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Here are some interesting links I found. http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/...rport_aircraft_noise_issues/noise/ http://www.noisequest.psu.edu/commu
215 Post contains images jerseyguy : For the record and even though this is public record I will only give out the bare minimum of info to make my point. BRRAM President Holly Bussey pur
216 Post contains links jerseyguy : Was at TTN today, not too surprising because its a Friday but the Parking lots had to be 90-95% full. (perhaps more I didn't get a good look at the ma
217 GentFromAlaska : Perhaps local residents might persuade TTN to build a hiking trail outside of the fenced perimeter. Juneau has one which I want to say is just under t
218 Post contains images jerseyguy : Well it would be nice for spotters but I don't believe that most people around here would use it as a hiking trail in any case it would be nearly imp
219 Post contains images GentFromAlaska : They might if Governor Christie set the example.
220 Post contains images jerseyguy : I'd bet Satah Palin wouldn't even know what the thing was, someone have to explain it to her
221 Post contains links and images jerseyguy : Wow, great the airport is doing so well now, its resulted in turf wars with cabbies at TTN http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...between_ewing_trento
222 lakeeffect : I flew CLE-TTN today. I wasn't sure how well this route would perform, but the flight was about 95% full. Any plans to add a covered walkway from bagg
223 Post contains links mariner : It is an unusual set-up and contentious - LOL - and supposedly Frontier has read the riot act to TTN about the baggage claim facilities. Someone desc
224 Post contains links jerseyguy : Well, it doesn't exactly say where (it could be from the terminal to ramps to the plane or it could be from the baggage claim to the parking lot but
225 GentFromAlaska : The BNA-TTN inaugural flight occurs Wednesday. Looking at the F9 seat map it appears sixty or so seats remain available; mostly middle seats. There ar
226 mariner : Be a bit wary of those online seat maps, Gent. As Knope2001 pointed out in the other thread, they don't show third party bookings (online travel site
227 smoot4208 : Are you hinting at an announcement regarding F9 dropping Orbitz?
228 mariner : No, not at all. But with the Basic (third party fare) going, Economy will become the new standard fare, and will be completely unbundled. I don't kno
229 lakeeffect : I was at TTN today and saw that they were working on that far northern remote lot. I saw that gates were installed and a little shuttle stop for getti
230 smoot4208 : I wonder if this means Carry-Ons will be free if booked through a 3rd party then?
231 mariner : Oh, I don't think so. I believe it does mean that the notorious last minute $100 (third party) fee goes away. Charging for carry-ons isn't so much ab
232 jerseyguy : Its all about the space, there isn't enough space to have both comingled. They don't have the space they need now with the influx of flights. The bag
233 GentFromAlaska : It appears F9 is listening They are advertising a one day sale today (Tuesday) between TTN-BNA-TTN for $19.00 in each direction. It looks like travel
234 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : I not sure if this is news you can use but it is TTN related. http://www.nj.com/mercer/index.ssf/2...ny_sold_to_houston-based_firm.html[Edited 2014-04
235 jerseyguy : Its official, the NIMBY group, BRRAM filed a lawsuit against Mercer County and Frontier for violating NEPA. They are seeking an injuction to require a
236 GentFromAlaska : I've asked myself that same question several times. Why would a homeowner purchase a home near an airport and not expect noise. TTN is a state capita
237 jerseyguy : A PA state reps wrote letters to FAA they did not get the desired response
238 Post contains links GentFromAlaska : Well F9 flight # 952 is enroute back to TTN from BNA. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FFT952 on its maiden/inaugural voyage. I also noted on Flight
239 jerseyguy : Yep, Flight Aware sometimes has that glitch where its both an f9 and a "yx" flight. I was thinking about the BRRAM lawsuit situation and am wondering
240 GentFromAlaska : You almost have to think in the terms of judicial case law as it relates to how other airports deal with noise vs homeowners. TTN can't be the only ai
241 Post contains links jerseyguy : Interesting article in the Trentonian newspaper today, with reactions to the BRRAM lawsuit from some of the Mercer County Freeholders. The most intere
242 GentFromAlaska : I mentioned it a while back perhaps not synopsized enough in these threads I suspect BRAAM is confusing EIS with the FAA noise abatement program. EIS
243 jerseyguy : Mercer County probably doesnt do enough to make it worth while to have a permanent department. I was looking at the EA (enviormental assessment which
244 jerseyguy : Well I have 2 sets of both good news and bad news Good News: It appears the terminal has another security checkpoint lane (was told this by someone I
245 jerseyguy : More news out of TTN: The remote lot is partially open about 100 spaces or so and the shuttle is running to it. TTN was very busy today with Lot 1 (ma
246 jerseyguy : Sorry to mention that the remote lot is PARTIALLY open, maybe 100 spaces tops.
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