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Skywest To Fly For American Eagle Out Of ORD  
User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 645 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6143 times:

Beginning April 1, Skywest will start operating out of ORD as an American Eagle carrier (pro-rate contract), with at least 4 aircraft (CRJ200)s.

This new contract follows the already announced end of the Chautauqua contract this year, that will mean the loss of 15 ERDs that are currently flying from ORD under the American Connection brand. Apparently, Envoy cannot staff all this flying without cancelling other flights, as they plan to retire 10 additional ERDs this year. Current Chautauqua's flights will be operated by Skywest (at least 4 aircraft) and Envoy (more ER4s are going to become available with the cancellation of Envoy-operated flights like CLT-MIA/ORD, and there may be some frequency reductions because of the use of larger aircraft (50 vs. 44 seats). Besides, as the contract with Skywest will be pro-rate, it has been said that some new AA routes from ORD could be annouced, but I find it unlikely with only 4 frames.

Flights are already loaded and can be seen, for example, from ORD to CHO/ICT/MKE/YUL.

Apparently, Eagle's fleet will grow by at least 3 frames this year. This may sound surprising given how Delta and United are shrinking their regional fleet, but AA cannot do it at the same rate because their regional fleet is much smaller than DL's or UA's. 25 ERDs are planned to be retired this year and 24 E75s will be delivered. It is yet to be seen if the loss of Chautauqua's feed will change this plan, maybe slowing ERD retirements (as long as Envoy can staff them), or adding more CRJs to the new contract with Skywest, which is clearly a possibility. Besides, USAir regional fleet will grow by 17 frames (+19 CR9s, -2 DH8s) and rumor is that some could be based at an AA hub.

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User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3817 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6109 times:

Skywest as in OO or as in EV? either way, I hope the reliability is better than the DFW CR2 operation.

User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 822 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6090 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 1):

Skywest as in OO or as in EV? either way, I hope the reliability is better than the DFW CR2 operation.

Skywest Airlines. They're already flying CRJs for American out in LAX.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6071 times:

Quoting realsim (Thread starter):
25 ERDs are planned to be retired this year and 24 E75s will be delivered.

Are the 24 E75s all YX frames or are the first MQ birds part of that number?

That said, regardless of operator, place the E75 on long DFW ER4 routes like FWA-DFW and I'll be a happy guy.



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User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 3):
Are the 24 E75s all YX frames or are the first MQ birds part of that number?

They're all Republic frames. The unassigned E75s don't arrive until Q1 2015.


User currently onlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5954 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 3):
Are the 24 E75s all YX frames or are the first MQ birds part of that number?

The 24 E75s are the YX frames. It has not been decided where the 60 frame order will go. PSA will also be recieving 15 of the 30 CRJ-900 ordered by AA


User currently offlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5562 times:

WIll SkyWest be able to staff these flights?

I ask because a recent OO flight of mine was delayed quite a bit for lack of cockpit crew.



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User currently offlinedeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4813 times:

Are these 4 frames being moved from LAX flying or are these additional jets?

User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11640 posts, RR: 61
Reply 8, posted (6 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4735 times:

Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 7):
Are these 4 frames being moved from LAX flying or are these additional jets?

Word elsewhere is they're planes coming from Delta's network as Delta draws down 50-seat capacity.


User currently offlineknope2001 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2915 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (6 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 3765 times:

Quoting realsim (Thread starter):
Flights are already loaded and can be seen, for example, from ORD to CHO/ICT/MKE/YUL.

Wouldn't surprise me if the SkyWest mx base in Milwaukee is what leads to MKE being among the first AA* destinations at O'Hare. It think this puts Milwaukee north of two dozen SkyWest-proper flights, not including anything flown by SkyWest subsidiaries.

On the downside it means a heavier diet of SkyWest CRJ's instead of larger RJ's, just like having the Air Wisconsin mx base in MKE means MKE-PHL never gets upgraded -- last summer peak had as many as 6x/day but never a CR7 or CR9. At least the bulk of OO flights at MKE are to O'Hare, and that short a hop is much more reasonable in a CR2.


User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3754 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3627 times:

Quoting knope2001 (Reply 9):
Wouldn't surprise me if the SkyWest mx base in Milwaukee is what leads to MKE being among the first AA* destinations at O'Hare. It think this puts Milwaukee north of two dozen SkyWest-proper flights, not including anything flown by SkyWest subsidiaries.

Hmm... with a growing SkyWest group MX base at SBN, could we be seeing a return of AA to SBN with ORD (OO) and DFW (EV) flights?



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineN908AW From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 934 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (6 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3591 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 6):
WIll SkyWest be able to staff these flights?

I ask because a recent OO flight of mine was delayed quite a bit for lack of cockpit crew.

You had a crew, evidently, since the flight operated. Your crew was likely coming from another flight that was delayed...



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 12, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2813 times:

The word about town is that since Envoy voted the contract down that they would be shrunk and that they would divest them out. The E175 unassigned operator would now become YX machines.


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User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1324 posts, RR: 15
Reply 13, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 12):

I would imagine those getting split among other E175 operators who also fly for AA. Mesa, Skywest, and Republic all fit the bill. Maybe like 20 apiece or something. RAH, based on their current contract, will be operating 105 E Jets for the combined company. The decision could be that the 60 go to other operators and Republic exercises some of their own options to balance out the mix of owned vs pure CPA arrangements AA keeps.



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User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 6):
WIll SkyWest be able to staff these flights?

I ask because a recent OO flight of mine was delayed quite a bit for lack of cockpit crew.

Could have been a last minute sick call with no ready reserves. 2 hour call out if that was the case.


User currently offlineFlyHossD From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 890 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1942 times:

Quoting N908AW (Reply 11):
You had a crew, evidently, since the flight operated. Your crew was likely coming from another flight that was delayed...

Perhaps I should have elaborated. I spoke with both pilots after arrival - they were both reassigned at the end of their original trip. So yes, there was a crew, but no crew was apparently assigned to begin with.

I ride OO at least once a month and they seem to have been suffering crew shortages for the last few years. For example, one day last May, two of my home airport OO flights were cancelled (including mine) due to lack of cockpit crew. So if they're going to add more flying, are they pushing their luck?

Don't misunderstand me. I like OO and look forward to the flights and chatting with the crews. I want to see SkyWest succeed, but I wonder if they're reaching too far.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6039 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (6 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 15):

Perhaps I should have elaborated. I spoke with both pilots after arrival - they were both reassigned at the end of their original trip. So yes, there was a crew, but no crew was apparently assigned to begin with.

No crew to begin with? Not likely. There's a ton of possible reasons for them to be pulled off, but lack of a previously assigned crew is not one of them.

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 15):
I ride OO at least once a month and they seem to have been suffering crew shortages for the last few years. For example, one day last May, two of my home airport OO flights were cancelled (including mine) due to lack of cockpit crew.

Shortage, no. Staffing has always been on the "thin" side, but that's running the assumption that there are those who are willing to pick up overtime, and there are. Conversely, there will always be sick calls and now part 117 timeout issues that might not be able to be covered last minute without causing problems the rest of the day.



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