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A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 14  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 54493 times:
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As part 13 became quite long, it was locked down for further contributions. Please feel free to continue your discussion in this thread.

Part 13 can be found here:

A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 13 (by SA7700 Feb 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

Regards,

SA7700


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 54441 times:

The previous thread has been closed, I'll re-post my last message:

First pictures of MSN4 have been added to the database:


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Quoting StTim:

I presume a lot of the certification is not reliant on the battery type and only those that are will need to be covered by MSN0001 and 5.

MSN5 will be used for the certification flights with the EASA, route proving etc. The battery certification can be done with both MSN 1 and 5.

As MSN1 already completed 85% of if flying hours target, there is enough time to upgrade the a/c. It's always better to have a backup on standby.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 53926 times:

It seems MSN3 flew a "weird" path today.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh-FLLtCIAAMxlq.png:large

http://twitter.com/A350fans/status/441217715668131840/photo/1



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User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 53876 times:

'Airshow practice' flight path maybe?


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4700 posts, RR: 38
Reply 4, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 53669 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
As MSN1 already completed 85% of if flying hours target, there is enough time to upgrade the a/c. It's always better to have a backup on standby.

I would think MSN3 is also closing in on that percentage when it comes to the level of completion of the flight tests planned for that test plane as well?

And the smoothness of the program has given Airbus the opportunity to take their time with MSN1. To have a backup standing by is always a good thing at this stage of the flight testing.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 5, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 53465 times:

Next flight for MSN3:

http://fr24.com/AIB97GG



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User currently offlineRobertPhoenix From United States of America, joined Jan 2014, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 53016 times:

I'm so glad to see we are now on thread #14

Thread 13 had me worried  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 52119 times:

A photo of MSN4 taken today. Is it me or does this looks like a very sharp takeoff?


msn4 5/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB04NW 5/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2986 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 51045 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 7):
A photo of MSN4 taken today. Is it me or does this looks like a very sharp takeoff

Probably testing the control laws that prevent a tailstrike. These are test flights.

Okie


User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8861 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 50616 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 250):
Also has official certification flying started yet?

I do not think so, it is from what I understand due to start within the next 2 weeks. One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started. In terms of hours, Airbus has presented some slides which give an indication of how much development and certification flying is planned for each airframe.

Numerous systems were already test flown prior to the A350 first flight, not all the testing will need to be demonstrated on the A350, the certification process is like an iceberg, the visible test flying is only part of it, a lot of aircraft is already met certification requirements, e.g. wing bending tests.

I assume that both battery types will be certified, the 787 solution is basically what Airbus already had on the A350. They are going for NiCad as a risk mitigation measure as they did not know how regulators would react to the Li issue.



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User currently offlineseahawk From Germany, joined May 2005, 952 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 50321 times:

NiCad will be certified - Li may later according to Alonso.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 49966 times:

Certification flights should start when the MSN1 upgrade is completed.

Quoting zeke (Reply 9):
One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started.

I guess that will be MSN2, for cabin evacuation tests etc.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 12, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 49764 times:

> AIB98GG is flying over the Balearic Sea
> AIB003CF airborne at 8:59UTC



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 48888 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
> AIB98GG is flying over the Balearic Sea

=> landed at 13:15UTC



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3865 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 48148 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 11):
I guess that will be MSN2, for cabin evacuation tests etc.

Any ideas why Airbus wasn't granted an exemption like Boeing?


User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 48108 times:

CF back at 18h13LT

some photos :

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2065/12973990714_cc1608a8d5_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/12973715463_1a49c530ef_c.jpg


User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 47936 times:

Quoting moo (Reply 14):
Any ideas why Airbus wasn't granted an exemption like Boeing?

Can a new passenger aircraft type be exempted from pax evacuation testing?


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 47924 times:

A350 size is not unique, layout isn't unique, doors I bet are standard. I wonder if an evacuation test will really tell them much. I am sure the individual cabin alyouts will have a bigger influence on evacuation times.

The A380 however definitely required an evacuation test.

Interesting to find out.


User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 47814 times:

Long flight, 9h+? for CF.

Quoting hivue (Reply 16):
Can a new passenger aircraft type be exempted from pax evacuation testing?

If I remember correctly, wasn't Boeing granted exemption on the 787 on the basis that since it carries about the same amount of passengers as the 767 had been tested to(?) and has more or less the same amount of doors, they had sufficiently proven it can be evacuated in time, so there's no need to do a 787 evac test. My recollection is probably not 100% and there's probably more to the story, but I think that's more or less it.


User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 47732 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 18):
If I remember correctly, wasn't Boeing granted exemption on the 787 on the basis that since it carries about the same amount of passengers as the 767 had been tested to(?)

Looks like you are correct:
http://news.travelling.gr/2013/11/em...evacuation-a380-boeing-777-videos/
"Boeing avoided having to certify their new flagship 787 Dreamliner for rapid evacuation because it was determined to be similar enough in configuration to the Boeing 767."

I wonder about the 789.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 20, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 47701 times:

Today's flights:


msn3 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


msn2 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB03CF 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB003CF by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr


AIB003CF by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 21, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 46976 times:

AIB01GG just departed from TLS.

http://fr24.com/AIB01GG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 46220 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):
AIB01GG just departed from TLS.

The raccoon landed at 14:49UTC.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 23, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 45552 times:

A nice close-up of the MSN2 landing configuration:


Airbus A350-900 F-WWCF cn 002 by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr



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User currently offlinekmz From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 160 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 44347 times:

Hi there,

has any news emerged concerning the performance of the cabin systems? Or what exactly they are testing now concerning the cabin?

Cheers

kmz


User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 44116 times:

Interestingly, MSN004 looks like it'll be visiting Spain tomorrow.
AIB06NW is currently planned for a short hop Seville-Moron around midday. It'll obviously still have to fly down there in the morning.



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User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 43529 times:

MSN002 is also heading out in a couple of hours. Going to Finkenwerder as AIB01CF.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 27, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 44035 times:

AIB10GG is on the move, it seems we will have three aircraft into the air today.

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 25):
Seville-Moron

The A380 went to Seville-Moron for noise tests.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...dustrie/Airbus-A380-841/0947837/M/

[Edited 2014-03-10 01:37:51]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 28, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43752 times:

AIB10GG airborne at 9:08UTC.

http://fr24.com/AIB10GG

AIB06NW is also visible and on the move.

http://planefinder.net/flight/AIB06NW



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43748 times:

AIB10GG with take-off at 09:09 UTC today.

Ok, Karel was quicker with 09:08 UTC.

[Edited 2014-03-10 02:16:26]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 30, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43747 times:

AIB04CF is also lining-up.

http://fr24.com/AIB04CF

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
AIB06NW is also visible and on the move.

=> airborne at 9:20UTC.

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 29):
Ok, Karel was quicker with 09:08 UTC.

 kiss 

[Edited 2014-03-10 02:21:14]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43575 times:

CF is now making it's way out to the runway as well.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 32, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43576 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 30):
AIB04CF is also lining-up.

Callsign has changed to AIB01CF, airborne at 9:42UTC.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 43470 times:

Looks like NW is heading back to Toulouse. Shortish flight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 34, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 43476 times:

AIB06NW landed at 10:05UTC already.

Let's see if they make a turn.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 35, posted (4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 42923 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
AIB10GG airborne at 9:08UTC.

Touchdown at 12:36UTC I think. If someone can confirm?

[Edited 2014-03-10 05:39:34]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 36, posted (4 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 42837 times:

"Assistant" says 12:34 UTC

CF is holding over Lubeck... Low pass at HAM and then to XFW are among the rumors.

[Edited 2014-03-10 05:57:37]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 37, posted (4 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 42739 times:

Low approach at HAM completed, now heading to Finky.

[edit]

And touchdown 13:29UTC.

[edit2]

AIB06NW is back online.

http://fr24.com/AIB06NW

[Edited 2014-03-10 06:42:15]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 38, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 42412 times:

MSN2 arriving in XFW:

http://instagram.com/p/lXWF-pOrIB/

MSN4 second flight of the day is airborne at 14:11UTC:

http://fr24.com/AIB07NW



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 42358 times:

GiGi has fired u for the second flight of the day - but is currently having a transponder code from an Iberian flight (IBE01GG)

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 40, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 42324 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 39):
GiGi has fired u for the second flight of the day - but is currently having a transponder code from an Iberian flight (IBE01GG)

Iberia A350 airborne at 14:34UTC.

http://fr24.com/IB01GG

[edit]

Callsign has changed http://fr24.com/AIB01GG

[Edited 2014-03-10 07:36:56]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 42351 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 40):
Iberia A350 airborne at 14:34UTC.

We had this before... Airbus is messing up the whole A350 test program again...  


User currently onlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (4 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 42245 times:
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I won't mind if they would fly with AY code  


Flying high and low
User currently offlineLittleOwl From Germany, joined Oct 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (4 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 41842 times:

Here is a video of the landing of MSN2 in Hamburg Finkenwerder:



User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 44, posted (4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 41385 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 9):
One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started.

Well, that happened today: MSN2 was flow to Hamburg. And according to a German website, MSN2 will spend two weeks in XFW for extensive cabin testing. Can we assume certification trials are imminent?

http://www.tageblatt.de/lokales/aktu...in-Finkenwerder-_arid,1029363.html



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (4 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 41224 times:

We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 46, posted (4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 40874 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

> AIB07NW landed at 16:22UTC
> AIB01GG landed at 19:03UTC



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 47, posted (4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 40854 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

If you mean my logbook, had to work... And it was one hell of a busy day.. -_-'
I'll fill them in the next few minutes  
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 44):
Can we assume certification trials are imminent?

That was something I have been thinking about....

Both MSN3 and MSN2 started with AIB01xx again... Could it be that they entered the certification phase now and the flight count starts over...  



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 48, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 40200 times:

MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

http://fr24.com/AIB07NW



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 39982 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 48):
MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

And has landed at 09:09 UTC.


User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 50, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 40062 times:

For those of you who missed MSN2 yesterday at XFW: The aircraft WILL stay in Hamburg for the next two weeks for ground and air testing. Scheduled to do flights every two days, so it might be worth to keep an eye on Flightradar, especially since the weather is supposed to stay excellent.

http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443312213860704256/photo/1


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 51, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 40055 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 48):
MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

Touchdown at 9:09UTC.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/1hvvbm.jpg

Quoting BREmer (Reply 50):
For those of you who missed MSN2 yesterday at XFW: The aircraft WILL stay in Hamburg for the next two weeks for ground and air testing. Scheduled to do flights every two days, so it might be worth to keep an eye on Flightradar, especially since the weather is supposed to stay excellent.

MSN2 first test flight from XFW scheduled tomorrow 09:30 local time.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 52, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 40221 times:

Looks like Airbus took the opportunity to make a quick visit to Airbus Military at SVQ (Seville)  


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 53, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 40081 times:

Golf-Golf is also awake.

http://planefinder.net/flight/FWZGG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 54, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 39771 times:

More information about MSN2 tests on this German website:

http://www.hamburg-aviation.de/de/pr...e-landung-auf-deutschem-boden.html

I used Google Translate to translate the most interesting part of the article:

Quote:
The test program is packed with a combination of ground and flight tests. Every two days, the airplane take off from the site to ensure that all technical systems are tested on board: water / wastewater, communication system CIDS, lighting, smoke alarm, doors, inflight entertainment, etc. The days of testing on the ground serve the maintenance, analysis, troubleshooting and preparation of further tests. A particular focus is the Air system. Approx. 200 seats in the cabin MSN2 were equipped with "Heat Dummies". These are plastic tubes in which circulates warm air. They simulate the "heating" of passengers: Each passenger brings with his body heat 150 to 170 watts of power into the cabin as much as before a strong household light bulb. The air conditioning system must ensure that the car is not always to warm up.



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Reply 55, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 39746 times:

NW is test flying down in Spain at the moment. Take off 10:33 UTC

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 56, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 39646 times:

MSN4 is doing touch & go's at OZP.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/x0s02s.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 57, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 39216 times:

After doing tests at Morón Air Base, MSN4 landed back at SVQ at 13:02UTC.


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Reply 58, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 38316 times:

NW departed 18:52 Zulu and is still buzzing Macon.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 59, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 38138 times:

Touchdown 21:34UTC.

I wonder when they will go home?

http://oi61.tinypic.com/bgz69s.jpg

[Edited 2014-03-11 14:34:32]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 37994 times:

MSN4 is still/again doing circles over southern spain.

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Reply 61, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37932 times:

Couple of pics/videos from from Seville via Le Twitter:  
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BidlqdICIAAfUh8.jpg:large
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mDtqCMtnU

[Edited 2014-03-11 15:27:22]


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User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37913 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 60):
MSN4 is still/again doing circles over southern spain.

AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.
Tomorrow morning it looks like the GiGi is planning a 5 hour TLS-TLS flight as AIB02GG, and the CF a 9 hour flight XFW-XFW as AIB05CF. Both should be getting airborne at approx. 0830L.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 63, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37856 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 62):
AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.

Is that the schedule for tomorrow?

For today I have:

> AIB07NW: TLS-SVQ 7:49 - 9:09
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP-SVQ 10:33 - 13:02
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP-SVQ 18:52 - 21:34

Feel free to correct/complete.



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37884 times:

Some more "marketing" news from Airbus. The new issue from the A350XWB magazine is online:

http://www.a350xwb.com/x-tra/magazine-05/


User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 37765 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 63):
Is that the schedule for tomorrow?

Confirmed. For tomorrow.

The first AIB04NW for today was two separate flights:
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP 10:33 - 10:57
> AIB04NW: OZP-SVQ 12:44 - 13:02
No sign of anything in between.

Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

North to Torp, via Stavanger to Glasgow, then southbound to the Berry Head VOR, and via Quimper towards Santiago. Then eastbound until just prior to Zaragoza, then northeast overhead Toulouse towards Zurich. Back to the north to Hamburg, then northeast again in the direction of Sweden before swinging back to the west and crossing the coast by the VES VOR. Thereafter northwest to a mid-point between Scotland and Norway, followed by overhead Stavanger again, southeast toward Aalborg, and then south back to Finkenwerder.

Long flight!!



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User currently onlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 37645 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Back to the north to Hamburg, then northeast again in the direction
of Sweden before swinging back to the west and crossing the coast by the VES VOR

You know I wouldn't mind if they skipped that westward turn, an continued on
that north easterly course to an airport near me.  

I don't know if my small local airport could handle it though.



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2181 posts, RR: 1
Reply 67, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 37335 times:

Some short videos of MSN 4 at Seville:

http://youtu.be/DwV9P3jmYdA

http://youtu.be/v_mDtqCMtnU



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 94 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 37206 times:

GG back to the sky this morning take off 07h47UTC

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 69, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 37030 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 68):
GG back to the sky this morning take off 07h47UTC

And landed at 8:34UTC.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 70, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 36837 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

Here we go:

http://fr24.com/AIB05CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 71, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 36610 times:

Et hop, another test flight for Golf-Golf.

http://planefinder.net/flight/AIB02GG
http://fr24.com/AIB02GG

Departed 10:26UTC.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 36601 times:

Looks like GiGi is heading back to the skies. Wonder if they had a little glitch requiring the return to base.

User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 36096 times:

And a lovely pic in the A.net database now!


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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © T.Laurent




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User currently onlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 36035 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

Bah! It went over and Denmark and Norway but skipped Sweden.   Big booohh to Airbus.  



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User currently offlinemucdude From Germany, joined Mar 2012, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35753 times:

Circle for AIB05CF almost completed:




Next flights: ZRH-BOS-ZRH on LX; ZRH-SIN-AKL-SIN-ZRH on SQ
User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 76, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35712 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):

Is it going to be a fly-by or landing in Hamburg before going north-east? Seems she's coming back now  http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443768485592956928/photo/1


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Reply 77, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35890 times:

mucdude just beat me by a second 

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 78, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35787 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 71):
Departed 10:26UTC.

AIB02GG landed at 15:40UTC.



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 79, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 35756 times:

... and AIB05CF is going for another round over Scandinavia

http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443775776614133760/photo/1


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 80, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 35708 times:

AIB05CF landed at 18:16UTC in XFW.



Touchdown in the dark:


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 35629 times:

AIB04NW just landed back in SVQ at 21:13 UTC.

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Reply 82, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 35683 times:

AIB04NW finished another set of trails, SVQ-OZP-SVQ from 16:50 to 21:13 UTC.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/153uzwh.jpg

[Edited 2014-03-12 14:17:07]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 83, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 35032 times:

MSN4 and an A400M in SVQ:

http://elcorreoweb.es/2014/03/11/san...na-del-nuevo-avion-a350-de-airbus/



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1557 posts, RR: 3
Reply 84, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 34507 times:

AIB03GG is up running, take off about 5 minutes ago.

Call it 08:15 UTC

[Edited 2014-03-13 01:23:45]


BV
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 85, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 34465 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 62):
AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.

AIB05NW confirmed, departed just after midnight and landed back at 5:51 this morning. No sign of AIB06NW.

[Edited 2014-03-13 01:38:31]


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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1557 posts, RR: 3
Reply 86, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 34463 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 85):
AIB05NW confirmed, departed just after midnight and landed back at 5:51 this morning. No sign of AIB06NW.

I don't remember any A350 night ops, is this a first?



BV
User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4700 posts, RR: 38
Reply 87, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 33875 times:
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Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 86):
I don't remember any A350 night ops, is this a first?

They have flown in the dark before. But this might indeed be the first full night flight? Anyone?


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 88, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 33532 times:

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 87):

Saying without checking....

The Martinique -> Toulouse ferry was through the night (2300Z -> 0700Z I believe)
Same for the Iqaluit -> Toulouse ferry, I believe that landed around 0200Z



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 33117 times:

I see a Beluga has just landed in Seville. Is this a normal run or does NW need some new parts?

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 90, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 33065 times:

A400M parts I guess?  


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 91, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 33049 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 89):
I see a Beluga has just landed in Seville. Is this a normal run or does NW need some new parts?

It's normal, the A400M final assembly line is located in Seville.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 33040 times:

Ah - good. Thought it probably was a normal run but not seen one head there before.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 93, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 33019 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 92):
not seen one head there before.

Beluga activity around Seville should increase once A400M production goes up.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 94, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32378 times:

MSN2 is scheduled for another long test flight tomorrow.


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32361 times:

NW is doing more noise flights in Southern Spain at the moment. The hours are starting to really accelerate. It will be even more noticeable when WiBi comes back on the flight line.

User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32333 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 94):
MSN2 is scheduled for another long test flight tomorrow.

Another TLS-TLS roundtrip? Do you have any idea how long?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 97, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 32338 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 96):
Another TLS-TLS roundtrip? Do you have any idea how long?

MSN2 is stationed in XFW, the round-trip is scheduled from 09:00 to 17:30.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 98, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 32273 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 95):
NW is doing more noise flights in Southern Spain at the moment.

It seems AIB04NW departed from OZP, there must have been another flight from SVQ to OZP earlier today.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 88):
The Martinique -> Toulouse ferry was through the night (2300Z -> 0700Z I believe)
Same for the Iqaluit -> Toulouse ferry, I believe that landed around 0200Z

Correct. The difference being, those were ferry flights while MSN4 is doing extensive noise tests with touch & go's etc during the night.

Quoting StTim (Reply 95):
The hours are starting to really accelerate. It will be even more noticeable when WiBi comes back on the flight line.

Yes it''s going rapidly. The A350 should finished 50% of the flight test campaign tomorrow, with 84% for MSN1, 80% for MSN3, and 10% for both MSN 2 and 4.

I'm more amazed with the rate of MSN 2 and 4: MSN2 first extensive cabin test on its 5th flight already, and MSN4 is currently working like a real workhorse.



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Reply 99, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 31993 times:
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Quoting starbucks (Reply 47):
If you mean my logbook, had to work... And it was one hell of a busy day.. -_-'

I have not told you ''Fantastic Job'' before on the google docs A350 test flight log book, but I will: Fantastic Job, I am sure it is getting ever more complicated with all these A359's heading out in all sorts of different directions, with often multiple flights per day, and now night time test flights.

Any bets on when we will see MSN 1 aka WB back flying? I miss the ''old bird''.



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User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 31632 times:

GiGi seems to be awake and taxiing as AIB05GG.


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 31633 times:

GiGi is up and flying as AIB05GG already.

Not sure what time NW finished it's noise tests last night but it was quite late.


Should pass 50% of hours today on the log.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 102, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 31624 times:

MSN2 is in the air:

http://fr24.com/AIB06CF

Departed 8:44, ahead of schedule.

[Edited 2014-03-14 02:25:14]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 103, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 31530 times:

Tried to figure out the MSN4 times from last night...

AIB04NW took off around 20:30Z and landed around 00:20Z this morning SVQ - SVQ
AIB05NW took off around 01:30Z and landed around 05:45Z this morning SVQ - SVQ again.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 104, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 31464 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 103):
AIB04NW took off around 20:30Z and landed around 00:20Z this morning SVQ - SVQ

I have departure at 20:26 and landing at 00:21.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 103):
AIB05NW took off around 01:30Z and landed around 05:45Z this morning SVQ - SVQ again.

I have the same.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 30584 times:

AIB06GG just took off for a second round today

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 30581 times:

Second run for GiGi as AIB06GG with take-off at 15:27 UTC.

CF is flying over Germany, heading back to XFW.

I think AIB06CF is the flight reaching 50% of the total test flight time of 2.500h.


User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1557 posts, RR: 3
Reply 107, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 30529 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
MSN2 is in the air:

http://fr24.com/AIB06CF

Just about to complete another circuit of Western Europe.. These A350's love to fly..



BV
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Reply 108, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30446 times:

Looks like 2 is flying on - still flying at FL380

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 109, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30459 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 106):
heading back to XFW.

MSN2 will not land immediately, the flight will continue for another 2-3 hours, adding almost 10 hours to the campaign.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30429 times:

I wonder if they are going to let GG to fly some of the tests that were planned for WB as the original test plan did not have a break for WB for battery system change?
Then they could let WB do the needed verification of the new system and find any faults before MSN5 starts to fly.


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Reply 111, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30424 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 109):
the flight will continue for another 2-3 hours

I don't mind... 


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 112, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30422 times:

MSN2 is now flying at FL430.


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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1557 posts, RR: 3
Reply 113, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 30468 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 108):
Looks like 2 is flying on - still flying at FL380

Somebody was complaining that the A350 didn't visit Sweden yesterday, looks like the test programe is taking requests.



BV
User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 30236 times:

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 113):
Somebody was complaining that the A350 didn't visit Sweden yesterday, looks like the test programe is taking requests.

That would be me.  

But no they're still keeping clear of Swedish airspace, going back fort between D, DK and NO.

*edit CF on her way home.

landend at 18.15UTC

[Edited 2014-03-14 11:16:42]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 115, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 30107 times:

Both GG and CF are back on the ground.

> AIB06CF departed at 8:44 and landed at 18:16
> AIB05GG departed at 8:08 and landed at 13:39
> AIB06GG departed at 15:27 and landed at 18:07

The A350 program today reached another milestone by logging 1,260 testing hours, or 50% of the entire campaign. The breakdown is as follows:

> MSN1: 674 hours, 84% completed
> MSN2: 40 hours, 10% completed
> MSN3: 501 hours, 83% completed
> MSN4: 46 hours, 11% completed



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 116, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 29912 times:

MSN2 touchdown today in XFW with cabin lights on.


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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Reply 117, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 29755 times:

NW is off doing more noise testing in southern Spain.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 118, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 29741 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 117):
NW is off doing more noise testing in southern Spain.

Departed around 19:35UTC it seems.

So the crew is sleeping during the day, and doing flight testing at night.

[Edited 2014-03-14 13:00:26]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29762 times:

I think we may have a testing first today. If I am not mistaken the three test frames flying will mark up 24 hours of testing today.

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29738 times:

Why do we have to wait so long to see the cabin of MSN2? Is there a specific reason for having or wait until April?

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 115):
> MSN1: 674 hours, 84% completed
> MSN2: 40 hours, 10% completed
> MSN3: 501 hours, 83% completed
> MSN4: 46 hours, 11% completed

I can't believe how fast MSN2 and 4 are going after just 16 days since first flight, it really shows how mature the aircraft is at this stage!

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 115):
50% of the entire campaign.

Pop the champagne!   

(Actually it might be best to wait until the aircraft is certified)



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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29697 times:

I assume April might be when Airbus starts the official cabin test flights with actual people? I remember they did the same for the A380 when Airbus employees were allowed to travel on it to simulate passenger flights, so maybe April might be when they do this for the A350.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 122, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29586 times:

A nice video of the test flights in Bolivia and Canada:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/910721268cds.html



And here's a video showing how the staff works and lives aboard:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/d2821e6cfb4s.html




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Reply 123, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 29431 times:

I almost can't believe how those things are building up hours!

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Reply 124, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 29366 times:

CF passing over us this afternoon at 38000ft !!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/13154967475_d882c10c11_c.jpg


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Reply 125, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 29285 times:

Fantastic silhouette!


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 126, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 29105 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 118):
Departed around 19:35UTC it seems.

And landed at 23:30UTC.

Quoting StTim (Reply 119):
If I am not mistaken the three test frames flying will mark up 24 hours of testing today.

Let's see, for today we have:

> MSN2: 9H32m
> MSN3: 5H31m + 2H40m
> MSN4: 0H21m + 4H15m + 3H55m

You are right, about 26 hours were flown today.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 127, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 28810 times:

AIB05NW departed around 1:05 and landed back at 4:17 last night.


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Reply 128, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 28765 times:

GiGi is busy flying around southern France at the moment. Take off around 08:33 Z

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 28283 times:

AIB07GG has landed at 12:07 UTC.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 122):
And here's a video showing how the staff works and lives aboard:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/d2821....html

At 1:46 we can even see the all new advanced coffee-maker for the XWB...  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 130, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 27696 times:

MSN4 is airborne again http://fr24.com/AIB04NW


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Reply 131, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 27585 times:

More noise testing. Does anyone know how long this element of the campaign may last?

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 26826 times:

My my. NW is test flying on a Sunday. Airbus doesn't schedule much test flying on a Sunday so they must be trying to finish the campaign down in Spain as quickly as possible.

take off from SVQ at 13:14 Z


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Reply 133, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 26681 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 132):
My my. NW is test flying on a Sunday.

Can't find her though...  

Just found this nice video of Al Bakers visit to TLS in February..., some nice footage from inside MSN6
http://www.aeronewstv.com/en/article...-on-time.html#.UyV3JVUJRzE.twitter



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 26583 times:

I know - she was up for a while as AIB04NW. I got the flight radar 24 alert and did see her up for a while.

I wonder if she was just positioning to the Moron field for later testing runs.


User currently onlineschwege From Finland, joined Jul 2013, 43 posts, RR: 1
Reply 135, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 26354 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 133):
Can't find her though...  

My apologies, the assistant was having an unscheduled and unsolicited break approx 0430 - 1600 Z.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 136, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25951 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 133):
Just found this nice video of Al Bakers visit to TLS in February..., some nice footage from inside MSN6

Nice find, the video also shows a bit of the MSN4 cabin. In case one wonders what a "light test aircraft" means:



You can see a few seats and the water ballasts in the back of the airplane.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/11waiw7.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 137, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 25726 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 134):
I know - she was up for a while as AIB04NW. I got the flight radar 24 alert and did see her up for a while.

> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP 13:14 - 13:24 UTC
> AIB05NW: OZP-SVQ 18:35 - 18:59 UTC



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 25153 times:

Monday morning and GiGi is preparing for daily work as AIB08GG.

EDIT: With take-off at 08:26 UTC.

[Edited 2014-03-17 01:28:32]

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 25095 times:

So I suspect that yesterday NW was doing taxi and other ground operations noise tests at OZP. Do these count to the hours I wonder?

User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 267 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 25096 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 138):
Monday morning and GiGi is preparing for daily work as AIB08GG.

Off to Châteauroux.
AIB07CF is planned for another lap of Europe, same rough routing as last time.



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 711 posts, RR: 1
Reply 141, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 25072 times:
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Quoting SXI899 (Reply 140):

Does anyone have aprox takeoff time for this flight?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 142, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24922 times:

MSN4 is scheduled to visit Puerto Real, Illescas and Getafe today.

http://twitter.com/flynewsmagazine/status/445464003478028288

Quote:
The @ Airbus # A350 flyover factories Puerto Real and Illescas 11:30 10:20 Getafe at 11:45 # spotters


[Edited 2014-03-17 02:07:17]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 143, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24800 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 138):
With take-off at 08:26 UTC.

Are you sure? MSN3 just departed from TLS.




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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24679 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 143):
Are you sure?

Yes, GG did one circle and landed around 08:43 UTC.


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24684 times:

I saw FR24 reporting GiGi airbourne before 09:00Z

NW is airbour and heading towards Cadiz on it's tour.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 146, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 24699 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 144):
Yes, GG did one circle and landed around 08:43 UTC.

Thanks.

In the meantime, MSN4 is on its way to visit the factories.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/30bkbvs.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 147, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 24535 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 145):
I saw FR24 reporting GiGi airbourne before 09:00Z

Disappeared around Châteauroux at 9:53.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 24477 times:

And now CF starts her third European tour.

Still waiting for WiBi to come back on line.


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 149, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 24293 times:

The tour was the end of MSN4's trip to Spain (as I expected)..., passed the French border again and descending to TLS.

MSN3 is finished at CHR and flying South again



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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 150, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 24172 times:



Start of CF's third European tour that StTim mentioned.


User currently offlineMarquis From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 151, posted (4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 23754 times:

F-WZGG as AIB09GG is airborne again at 14.12 UTC.


Riding the radials...
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 152, posted (4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 23953 times:

Quoting Marquis (Reply 151):
F-WZGG as AIB09GG is airborne again at 14.12 UTC.

She's still on the ground, second RTO.

[edit]

Airborne now at 14:23.

[Edited 2014-03-17 07:25:27]


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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (4 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 23748 times:

GiGi flying at 2800ft, what kind of test is done at that altitude?

Back and forth over the fields... crop dusting?

[Edited 2014-03-17 09:23:34]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 154, posted (4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 23562 times:

A few nice shots of MSN3 taken today:


msn3 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


msn3 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB108GG 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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Reply 155, posted (4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 23237 times:

GiGi landed UTC 17.55

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Reply 156, posted (4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 22992 times:

AIB07CF has landed back in XFW at 18:37 UTC.

User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (4 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 22997 times:

Those engines are deceptively huge. Trying to figure out why they look smaller than they actually are.

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 22854 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 157):
Trying to figure out why they look smaller than they actually are.

I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!
Just look at some pictures, where you can compare the A350 with other frames:
Even besides the A380 it doesn't look small:
http://www.airbus.com/galleries/phot...50-xwb-a380-ground-view-1/?share=1
or compare it to the truck:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...d=da95f58ac51f67a969b05af30b06ed58


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 22816 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 157):
Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):

I think another thing is that because the A350 has much larger windows than any other Airbus aircraft, it makes it look much smaller than it actually is, when you look at the windows and the engines at the same time it looks like the engines are more A320 sized. Then when you look in pictures of it compared to other aircraft, it looks huge!



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 160, posted (4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 22658 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):
I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!

The A350 is bigger than people would assume. The wing span alone is the same as the 777-300ER, and the A350-1000 will have the same fuselage length as well.

[Edited 2014-03-17 14:33:12]


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User currently offlineLeeloo From Sweden, joined Jan 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 22513 times:

Good Evening,
May i just step in and ask you "professionals" a question  It's truly a remarkable machine in every aspect and i follow the progress closely like all of us.

I know this was mentioned before during first roll out and so on but want to check again as more and more airframes come to live of the A350, will all frames have the black painted cockpit window frames or will we ever see one with the "normal" white??

Just curious!

Thanks.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 162, posted (4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 22501 times:

MSN2 above TLS today:


AIB07CF 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Quoting Leeloo (Reply 161):
I know this was mentioned before during first roll out and so on but want to check again as more and more airframes come to live of the A350, will all frames have the black painted cockpit window frames or will we ever see one with the "normal" white??

As far as I know, it's a cosmetic feature only so it's up to the customer to decide.



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (4 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 22439 times:

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but here's a picture of MSN1 taken sometime this month. If it was taken a few days ago (there is no date) then I don't think it will be flying again in at least a week or more...  
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Alexey Petrov - RuSpotters Team




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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 22240 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):
I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!
Just look at some pictures, where you can compare the A350 with other frames:
Even besides the A380 it doesn't look small:
http://www.airbus.com/galleries/phot...50-xwb-a380-ground-view-1/?share=1
or compare it to the truck:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...d=da95f58ac51f67a969b05af30b06ed58

Yeah, it really does drive home the size when you see it in comparison to other things. I remember when it first rolled out, I thought it actually looked like a NB and narrower than the A330.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 165, posted (4 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 21381 times:

MSN1 on the move today.


msn1 18/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 166, posted (4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20838 times:

Do you have any idea from where to where? From where it was undergoing the upgrades back to the flight test line perhaps?

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 167, posted (4 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20800 times:

Just look at the respective engine sizes between the 146 (ok it is probably an RJ100) and the A350 way further away from the camera.

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 168, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19992 times:

After a day of no test flying (from what I could see) it looks like at least CF is off on another tour of Europe.

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 169, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19931 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 163):

Its unlikely to be that recent, as there have been screening delays due to another successful upgrade needing fixing, so it could easily be some weeks old...

And I see that it was under tow yesterday in what seemed to be one piece... so makes sense that the photo is a little "aged"...



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Reply 170, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19914 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):
Its unlikely to be that recent, as there have been screening delays due to another successful upgrade needing fixing, so it could easily be some weeks old...

And surprise surprise, there's no date on the photo... I really hate when photographers do that, But they obviously have some reason to do it...



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 171, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19877 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):

Phew, I'm glad about that, I really want to see her back up in the air again. I've kind of missed her!  


Which aircraft will be doing the extreme temperature tests in May, will it be GG?



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 172, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19841 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 168):
After a day of no test flying (from what I could see) it looks like at least CF is off on another tour of Europe.

Now looks to be turning back...



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 173, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19855 times:

MSN2 is doing rounds over the North Sea right now. Shame we have cloudy skies at the moment.
http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/446219209450590208/photo/1

Does anybody know if it's just going to be circling or another large "Euro-trip"?  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 174, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19873 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 171):
Which aircraft will be doing the extreme temperature tests in May, will it be GG?

MSN3 will undergo extreme temperature tests at the McKinley Climatic Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida.

The hot weather campaign in the Middle East is scheduled for June.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 175, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19863 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):

Same photographer has uploaded more photos from TLS this month, http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...y%20Petrov%20-%20RuSpotters%20Team

Including Skymark A380 with some unatached engines, roll out with all 4 attached was March 13th. Also a picture of MSN3 landing was uploaded, he dated that one on March 5th.

Quoting EK17 (Reply 172):

Second flight from XFW started out this way too, about an hour at 10k feet and then a Eurotrip



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 176, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 19805 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 174):

Thanks for clearing that up!

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):
Including Skymark A380 with some unatached engines, roll out with all 4 attached was March 13th. Also a picture of MSN3 landing was uploaded, he dated that one on March 5th.

They may have all been taken on March 5th, which would make sense that MSN1 was mostly in one piece yesterday.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):
Second flight from XFW started out this way too, about an hour at 10k feet and then a Eurotrip

Is there a reason for all of these Eurotrips? I'm annoyed because the route isn't over where I live!  



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User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 177, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 20038 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):

Thanks for the sleuthing...!!!



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 178, posted (4 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 19929 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 166):
Do you have any idea from where to where? From where it was undergoing the upgrades back to the flight test line perhaps?

It was towed to another hangar.

I assume the new battery system will be tested inside the big C63 hangar first.

[Edited 2014-03-19 03:22:55]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 179, posted (4 months 6 days ago) and read 19652 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 120):
Why do we have to wait so long to see the cabin of MSN2? Is there a specific reason for having or wait until April?

The Aircraft Interiors Expo in Hamburg early next month is the perfect moment to unveil the cabin.

http://www.aircraftinteriorsexpo.com/



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 180, posted (4 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 18891 times:

AIB08CF touchdown in XFW at 17:49 UTC.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10667 posts, RR: 30
Reply 181, posted (4 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 18495 times:

MSN2 arriving in XFW today.