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A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 14  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 54965 times:
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As part 13 became quite long, it was locked down for further contributions. Please feel free to continue your discussion in this thread.

Part 13 can be found here:

A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 13 (by SA7700 Feb 18 2014 in Civil Aviation)

Regards,

SA7700


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 54913 times:

The previous thread has been closed, I'll re-post my last message:

First pictures of MSN4 have been added to the database:


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Quoting StTim:

I presume a lot of the certification is not reliant on the battery type and only those that are will need to be covered by MSN0001 and 5.

MSN5 will be used for the certification flights with the EASA, route proving etc. The battery certification can be done with both MSN 1 and 5.

As MSN1 already completed 85% of if flying hours target, there is enough time to upgrade the a/c. It's always better to have a backup on standby.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 54398 times:

It seems MSN3 flew a "weird" path today.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bh-FLLtCIAAMxlq.png:large

http://twitter.com/A350fans/status/441217715668131840/photo/1



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User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 54348 times:

'Airshow practice' flight path maybe?


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4736 posts, RR: 39
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 54141 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):
As MSN1 already completed 85% of if flying hours target, there is enough time to upgrade the a/c. It's always better to have a backup on standby.

I would think MSN3 is also closing in on that percentage when it comes to the level of completion of the flight tests planned for that test plane as well?

And the smoothness of the program has given Airbus the opportunity to take their time with MSN1. To have a backup standing by is always a good thing at this stage of the flight testing.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 53937 times:

Next flight for MSN3:

http://fr24.com/AIB97GG



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User currently offlineRobertPhoenix From United States of America, joined Jan 2014, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 53488 times:

I'm so glad to see we are now on thread #14

Thread 13 had me worried  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 52591 times:

A photo of MSN4 taken today. Is it me or does this looks like a very sharp takeoff?


msn4 5/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB04NW 5/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineokie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3030 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 51517 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 7):
A photo of MSN4 taken today. Is it me or does this looks like a very sharp takeoff

Probably testing the control laws that prevent a tailstrike. These are test flights.

Okie


User currently offlinezeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 9095 posts, RR: 75
Reply 9, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 51088 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 250):
Also has official certification flying started yet?

I do not think so, it is from what I understand due to start within the next 2 weeks. One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started. In terms of hours, Airbus has presented some slides which give an indication of how much development and certification flying is planned for each airframe.

Numerous systems were already test flown prior to the A350 first flight, not all the testing will need to be demonstrated on the A350, the certification process is like an iceberg, the visible test flying is only part of it, a lot of aircraft is already met certification requirements, e.g. wing bending tests.

I assume that both battery types will be certified, the 787 solution is basically what Airbus already had on the A350. They are going for NiCad as a risk mitigation measure as they did not know how regulators would react to the Li issue.



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User currently offlineseahawk From Germany, joined May 2005, 1043 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 50793 times:

NiCad will be certified - Li may later according to Alonso.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 11, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 50438 times:

Certification flights should start when the MSN1 upgrade is completed.

Quoting zeke (Reply 9):
One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started.

I guess that will be MSN2, for cabin evacuation tests etc.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 50236 times:

> AIB98GG is flying over the Balearic Sea
> AIB003CF airborne at 8:59UTC



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 49360 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 12):
> AIB98GG is flying over the Balearic Sea

=> landed at 13:15UTC



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User currently offlinemoo From Falkland Islands, joined May 2007, 3945 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 48620 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 11):
I guess that will be MSN2, for cabin evacuation tests etc.

Any ideas why Airbus wasn't granted an exemption like Boeing?


User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 48580 times:

CF back at 18h13LT

some photos :

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2065/12973990714_cc1608a8d5_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/12973715463_1a49c530ef_c.jpg


User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 48408 times:

Quoting moo (Reply 14):
Any ideas why Airbus wasn't granted an exemption like Boeing?

Can a new passenger aircraft type be exempted from pax evacuation testing?


User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 48396 times:

A350 size is not unique, layout isn't unique, doors I bet are standard. I wonder if an evacuation test will really tell them much. I am sure the individual cabin alyouts will have a bigger influence on evacuation times.

The A380 however definitely required an evacuation test.

Interesting to find out.


User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 48286 times:

Long flight, 9h+? for CF.

Quoting hivue (Reply 16):
Can a new passenger aircraft type be exempted from pax evacuation testing?

If I remember correctly, wasn't Boeing granted exemption on the 787 on the basis that since it carries about the same amount of passengers as the 767 had been tested to(?) and has more or less the same amount of doors, they had sufficiently proven it can be evacuated in time, so there's no need to do a 787 evac test. My recollection is probably not 100% and there's probably more to the story, but I think that's more or less it.


User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 48204 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 18):
If I remember correctly, wasn't Boeing granted exemption on the 787 on the basis that since it carries about the same amount of passengers as the 767 had been tested to(?)

Looks like you are correct:
http://news.travelling.gr/2013/11/em...evacuation-a380-boeing-777-videos/
"Boeing avoided having to certify their new flagship 787 Dreamliner for rapid evacuation because it was determined to be similar enough in configuration to the Boeing 767."

I wonder about the 789.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 48173 times:

Today's flights:


msn3 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


msn2 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB03CF 6/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB003CF by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr


AIB003CF by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 47448 times:

AIB01GG just departed from TLS.

http://fr24.com/AIB01GG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 46692 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):
AIB01GG just departed from TLS.

The raccoon landed at 14:49UTC.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 23, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 46024 times:

A nice close-up of the MSN2 landing configuration:


Airbus A350-900 F-WWCF cn 002 by Jujug Spotting, on Flickr



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User currently offlinekmz From Germany, joined Feb 2008, 162 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 44819 times:

Hi there,

has any news emerged concerning the performance of the cabin systems? Or what exactly they are testing now concerning the cabin?

Cheers

kmz


User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 44588 times:

Interestingly, MSN004 looks like it'll be visiting Spain tomorrow.
AIB06NW is currently planned for a short hop Seville-Moron around midday. It'll obviously still have to fly down there in the morning.



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User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 44001 times:

MSN002 is also heading out in a couple of hours. Going to Finkenwerder as AIB01CF.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 27, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 44507 times:

AIB10GG is on the move, it seems we will have three aircraft into the air today.

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 25):
Seville-Moron

The A380 went to Seville-Moron for noise tests.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...dustrie/Airbus-A380-841/0947837/M/

[Edited 2014-03-10 01:37:51]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 28, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 44224 times:

AIB10GG airborne at 9:08UTC.

http://fr24.com/AIB10GG

AIB06NW is also visible and on the move.

http://planefinder.net/flight/AIB06NW



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 44220 times:

AIB10GG with take-off at 09:09 UTC today.

Ok, Karel was quicker with 09:08 UTC.

[Edited 2014-03-10 02:16:26]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 30, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 44219 times:

AIB04CF is also lining-up.

http://fr24.com/AIB04CF

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
AIB06NW is also visible and on the move.

=> airborne at 9:20UTC.

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 29):
Ok, Karel was quicker with 09:08 UTC.

 kiss 

[Edited 2014-03-10 02:21:14]


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 44047 times:

CF is now making it's way out to the runway as well.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 32, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 44048 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 30):
AIB04CF is also lining-up.

Callsign has changed to AIB01CF, airborne at 9:42UTC.



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 43942 times:

Looks like NW is heading back to Toulouse. Shortish flight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 34, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 43948 times:

AIB06NW landed at 10:05UTC already.

Let's see if they make a turn.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 35, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 43395 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 28):
AIB10GG airborne at 9:08UTC.

Touchdown at 12:36UTC I think. If someone can confirm?

[Edited 2014-03-10 05:39:34]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 36, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 43309 times:

"Assistant" says 12:34 UTC

CF is holding over Lubeck... Low pass at HAM and then to XFW are among the rumors.

[Edited 2014-03-10 05:57:37]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 37, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 43211 times:

Low approach at HAM completed, now heading to Finky.

[edit]

And touchdown 13:29UTC.

[edit2]

AIB06NW is back online.

http://fr24.com/AIB06NW

[Edited 2014-03-10 06:42:15]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 38, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 42884 times:

MSN2 arriving in XFW:

http://instagram.com/p/lXWF-pOrIB/

MSN4 second flight of the day is airborne at 14:11UTC:

http://fr24.com/AIB07NW



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 42830 times:

GiGi has fired u for the second flight of the day - but is currently having a transponder code from an Iberian flight (IBE01GG)

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 40, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 42796 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 39):
GiGi has fired u for the second flight of the day - but is currently having a transponder code from an Iberian flight (IBE01GG)

Iberia A350 airborne at 14:34UTC.

http://fr24.com/IB01GG

[edit]

Callsign has changed http://fr24.com/AIB01GG

[Edited 2014-03-10 07:36:56]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 42823 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 40):
Iberia A350 airborne at 14:34UTC.

We had this before... Airbus is messing up the whole A350 test program again...  


User currently offlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1525 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 42717 times:
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I won't mind if they would fly with AY code  


Flying high and low
User currently offlineLittleOwl From Germany, joined Oct 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 42314 times:

Here is a video of the landing of MSN2 in Hamburg Finkenwerder:



User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 44, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 41857 times:

Quoting zeke (Reply 9):
One of the aircraft is going to Hamburg for 2 weeks, that should be an indication it has started.

Well, that happened today: MSN2 was flow to Hamburg. And according to a German website, MSN2 will spend two weeks in XFW for extensive cabin testing. Can we assume certification trials are imminent?

http://www.tageblatt.de/lokales/aktu...in-Finkenwerder-_arid,1029363.html



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 41696 times:

We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 46, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 41346 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

> AIB07NW landed at 16:22UTC
> AIB01GG landed at 19:03UTC



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 47, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 41326 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
We seem to be missing GiGi's and NW's second flights today on the test tracker.

If you mean my logbook, had to work... And it was one hell of a busy day.. -_-'
I'll fill them in the next few minutes  
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 44):
Can we assume certification trials are imminent?

That was something I have been thinking about....

Both MSN3 and MSN2 started with AIB01xx again... Could it be that they entered the certification phase now and the flight count starts over...  



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 48, posted (6 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 40672 times:

MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

http://fr24.com/AIB07NW



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 40454 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 48):
MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

And has landed at 09:09 UTC.


User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 50, posted (6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 40534 times:

For those of you who missed MSN2 yesterday at XFW: The aircraft WILL stay in Hamburg for the next two weeks for ground and air testing. Scheduled to do flights every two days, so it might be worth to keep an eye on Flightradar, especially since the weather is supposed to stay excellent.

http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443312213860704256/photo/1


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 51, posted (6 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 40527 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 48):
MSN4 is on its way to Seville-Moron.

Touchdown at 9:09UTC.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/1hvvbm.jpg

Quoting BREmer (Reply 50):
For those of you who missed MSN2 yesterday at XFW: The aircraft WILL stay in Hamburg for the next two weeks for ground and air testing. Scheduled to do flights every two days, so it might be worth to keep an eye on Flightradar, especially since the weather is supposed to stay excellent.

MSN2 first test flight from XFW scheduled tomorrow 09:30 local time.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 52, posted (6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 40693 times:

Looks like Airbus took the opportunity to make a quick visit to Airbus Military at SVQ (Seville)  


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 53, posted (6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 40553 times:

Golf-Golf is also awake.

http://planefinder.net/flight/FWZGG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 54, posted (6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 40243 times:

More information about MSN2 tests on this German website:

http://www.hamburg-aviation.de/de/pr...e-landung-auf-deutschem-boden.html

I used Google Translate to translate the most interesting part of the article:

Quote:
The test program is packed with a combination of ground and flight tests. Every two days, the airplane take off from the site to ensure that all technical systems are tested on board: water / wastewater, communication system CIDS, lighting, smoke alarm, doors, inflight entertainment, etc. The days of testing on the ground serve the maintenance, analysis, troubleshooting and preparation of further tests. A particular focus is the Air system. Approx. 200 seats in the cabin MSN2 were equipped with "Heat Dummies". These are plastic tubes in which circulates warm air. They simulate the "heating" of passengers: Each passenger brings with his body heat 150 to 170 watts of power into the cabin as much as before a strong household light bulb. The air conditioning system must ensure that the car is not always to warm up.



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 40218 times:

NW is test flying down in Spain at the moment. Take off 10:33 UTC

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 56, posted (6 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 40118 times:

MSN4 is doing touch & go's at OZP.

http://oi60.tinypic.com/x0s02s.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 57, posted (6 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 39688 times:

After doing tests at Morón Air Base, MSN4 landed back at SVQ at 13:02UTC.


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (6 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 38788 times:

NW departed 18:52 Zulu and is still buzzing Macon.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 59, posted (6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 38610 times:

Touchdown 21:34UTC.

I wonder when they will go home?

http://oi61.tinypic.com/bgz69s.jpg

[Edited 2014-03-11 14:34:32]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (6 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 38466 times:

MSN4 is still/again doing circles over southern spain.

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Reply 61, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 38404 times:

Couple of pics/videos from from Seville via Le Twitter:  
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BidlqdICIAAfUh8.jpg:large
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mDtqCMtnU

[Edited 2014-03-11 15:27:22]


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User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 38385 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 60):
MSN4 is still/again doing circles over southern spain.

AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.
Tomorrow morning it looks like the GiGi is planning a 5 hour TLS-TLS flight as AIB02GG, and the CF a 9 hour flight XFW-XFW as AIB05CF. Both should be getting airborne at approx. 0830L.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 63, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 38328 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 62):
AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.

Is that the schedule for tomorrow?

For today I have:

> AIB07NW: TLS-SVQ 7:49 - 9:09
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP-SVQ 10:33 - 13:02
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP-SVQ 18:52 - 21:34

Feel free to correct/complete.



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 38356 times:

Some more "marketing" news from Airbus. The new issue from the A350XWB magazine is online:

http://www.a350xwb.com/x-tra/magazine-05/


User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 38237 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 63):
Is that the schedule for tomorrow?

Confirmed. For tomorrow.

The first AIB04NW for today was two separate flights:
> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP 10:33 - 10:57
> AIB04NW: OZP-SVQ 12:44 - 13:02
No sign of anything in between.

Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

North to Torp, via Stavanger to Glasgow, then southbound to the Berry Head VOR, and via Quimper towards Santiago. Then eastbound until just prior to Zaragoza, then northeast overhead Toulouse towards Zurich. Back to the north to Hamburg, then northeast again in the direction of Sweden before swinging back to the west and crossing the coast by the VES VOR. Thereafter northwest to a mid-point between Scotland and Norway, followed by overhead Stavanger again, southeast toward Aalborg, and then south back to Finkenwerder.

Long flight!!



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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (6 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 38117 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Back to the north to Hamburg, then northeast again in the direction
of Sweden before swinging back to the west and crossing the coast by the VES VOR

You know I wouldn't mind if they skipped that westward turn, an continued on
that north easterly course to an airport near me.  

I don't know if my small local airport could handle it though.



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2375 posts, RR: 1
Reply 67, posted (6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 37807 times:

Some short videos of MSN 4 at Seville:

http://youtu.be/DwV9P3jmYdA

http://youtu.be/v_mDtqCMtnU



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (6 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 37678 times:

GG back to the sky this morning take off 07h47UTC

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 69, posted (6 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 37502 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 68):
GG back to the sky this morning take off 07h47UTC

And landed at 8:34UTC.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 70, posted (6 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 37309 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

Here we go:

http://fr24.com/AIB05CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 71, posted (6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 37082 times:

Et hop, another test flight for Golf-Golf.

http://planefinder.net/flight/AIB02GG
http://fr24.com/AIB02GG

Departed 10:26UTC.



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 37073 times:

Looks like GiGi is heading back to the skies. Wonder if they had a little glitch requiring the return to base.

User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 36568 times:

And a lovely pic in the A.net database now!


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Photo © T.Laurent




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User currently offlinethunderboltdrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 36507 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):
Tomorrow's AIB05CF looks to be a big round-trip.

Bah! It went over and Denmark and Norway but skipped Sweden.   Big booohh to Airbus.  



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User currently offlinemucdude From Germany, joined Mar 2012, 23 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (6 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 36225 times:

Circle for AIB05CF almost completed:




Next flights: ZRH-BOS-ZRH on LX; ZRH-SIN-AKL-SIN-ZRH on SQ
User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 76, posted (6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36184 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 65):

Is it going to be a fly-by or landing in Hamburg before going north-east? Seems she's coming back now  http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443768485592956928/photo/1


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Reply 77, posted (6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36362 times:

mucdude just beat me by a second 

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 78, posted (6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36259 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 71):
Departed 10:26UTC.

AIB02GG landed at 15:40UTC.



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 79, posted (6 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 36228 times:

... and AIB05CF is going for another round over Scandinavia

http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/443775776614133760/photo/1


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 80, posted (6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 36180 times:

AIB05CF landed at 18:16UTC in XFW.



Touchdown in the dark:


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 36101 times:

AIB04NW just landed back in SVQ at 21:13 UTC.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 82, posted (6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 36155 times:

AIB04NW finished another set of trails, SVQ-OZP-SVQ from 16:50 to 21:13 UTC.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/153uzwh.jpg

[Edited 2014-03-12 14:17:07]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 83, posted (6 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35504 times:

MSN4 and an A400M in SVQ:

http://elcorreoweb.es/2014/03/11/san...na-del-nuevo-avion-a350-de-airbus/



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1578 posts, RR: 3
Reply 84, posted (6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 34979 times:

AIB03GG is up running, take off about 5 minutes ago.

Call it 08:15 UTC

[Edited 2014-03-13 01:23:45]


BV
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 85, posted (6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 34937 times:

Quoting SXI899 (Reply 62):
AIB05NW is planned to be doing approaches at Moron AB from about 0045L onwards for 4 hours or so. Then planned to head back to Seville as AIB06NW at 0615L.

AIB05NW confirmed, departed just after midnight and landed back at 5:51 this morning. No sign of AIB06NW.

[Edited 2014-03-13 01:38:31]


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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1578 posts, RR: 3
Reply 86, posted (6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 34935 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 85):
AIB05NW confirmed, departed just after midnight and landed back at 5:51 this morning. No sign of AIB06NW.

I don't remember any A350 night ops, is this a first?



BV
User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4736 posts, RR: 39
Reply 87, posted (6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 34347 times:
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Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 86):
I don't remember any A350 night ops, is this a first?

They have flown in the dark before. But this might indeed be the first full night flight? Anyone?


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 88, posted (6 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 34004 times:

Quoting EPA001 (Reply 87):

Saying without checking....

The Martinique -> Toulouse ferry was through the night (2300Z -> 0700Z I believe)
Same for the Iqaluit -> Toulouse ferry, I believe that landed around 0200Z



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (6 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 33589 times:

I see a Beluga has just landed in Seville. Is this a normal run or does NW need some new parts?

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 90, posted (6 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 33537 times:

A400M parts I guess?  


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 91, posted (6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 33521 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 89):
I see a Beluga has just landed in Seville. Is this a normal run or does NW need some new parts?

It's normal, the A400M final assembly line is located in Seville.



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 33512 times:

Ah - good. Thought it probably was a normal run but not seen one head there before.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 93, posted (6 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 33491 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 92):
not seen one head there before.

Beluga activity around Seville should increase once A400M production goes up.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 94, posted (6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32850 times:

MSN2 is scheduled for another long test flight tomorrow.


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32833 times:

NW is doing more noise flights in Southern Spain at the moment. The hours are starting to really accelerate. It will be even more noticeable when WiBi comes back on the flight line.

User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32805 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 94):
MSN2 is scheduled for another long test flight tomorrow.

Another TLS-TLS roundtrip? Do you have any idea how long?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 97, posted (6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 32810 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 96):
Another TLS-TLS roundtrip? Do you have any idea how long?

MSN2 is stationed in XFW, the round-trip is scheduled from 09:00 to 17:30.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 98, posted (6 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 32745 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 95):
NW is doing more noise flights in Southern Spain at the moment.

It seems AIB04NW departed from OZP, there must have been another flight from SVQ to OZP earlier today.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 88):
The Martinique -> Toulouse ferry was through the night (2300Z -> 0700Z I believe)
Same for the Iqaluit -> Toulouse ferry, I believe that landed around 0200Z

Correct. The difference being, those were ferry flights while MSN4 is doing extensive noise tests with touch & go's etc during the night.

Quoting StTim (Reply 95):
The hours are starting to really accelerate. It will be even more noticeable when WiBi comes back on the flight line.

Yes it''s going rapidly. The A350 should finished 50% of the flight test campaign tomorrow, with 84% for MSN1, 80% for MSN3, and 10% for both MSN 2 and 4.

I'm more amazed with the rate of MSN 2 and 4: MSN2 first extensive cabin test on its 5th flight already, and MSN4 is currently working like a real workhorse.



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Reply 99, posted (6 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 32465 times:
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Quoting starbucks (Reply 47):
If you mean my logbook, had to work... And it was one hell of a busy day.. -_-'

I have not told you ''Fantastic Job'' before on the google docs A350 test flight log book, but I will: Fantastic Job, I am sure it is getting ever more complicated with all these A359's heading out in all sorts of different directions, with often multiple flights per day, and now night time test flights.

Any bets on when we will see MSN 1 aka WB back flying? I miss the ''old bird''.



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User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32104 times:

GiGi seems to be awake and taxiing as AIB05GG.


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (6 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 32105 times:

GiGi is up and flying as AIB05GG already.

Not sure what time NW finished it's noise tests last night but it was quite late.


Should pass 50% of hours today on the log.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 102, posted (6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 32096 times:

MSN2 is in the air:

http://fr24.com/AIB06CF

Departed 8:44, ahead of schedule.

[Edited 2014-03-14 02:25:14]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 103, posted (6 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 32002 times:

Tried to figure out the MSN4 times from last night...

AIB04NW took off around 20:30Z and landed around 00:20Z this morning SVQ - SVQ
AIB05NW took off around 01:30Z and landed around 05:45Z this morning SVQ - SVQ again.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 104, posted (6 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 31936 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 103):
AIB04NW took off around 20:30Z and landed around 00:20Z this morning SVQ - SVQ

I have departure at 20:26 and landing at 00:21.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 103):
AIB05NW took off around 01:30Z and landed around 05:45Z this morning SVQ - SVQ again.

I have the same.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 31056 times:

AIB06GG just took off for a second round today

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 31053 times:

Second run for GiGi as AIB06GG with take-off at 15:27 UTC.

CF is flying over Germany, heading back to XFW.

I think AIB06CF is the flight reaching 50% of the total test flight time of 2.500h.


User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1578 posts, RR: 3
Reply 107, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 31001 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 102):
MSN2 is in the air:

http://fr24.com/AIB06CF

Just about to complete another circuit of Western Europe.. These A350's love to fly..



BV
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Reply 108, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 30918 times:

Looks like 2 is flying on - still flying at FL380

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 109, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 30931 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 106):
heading back to XFW.

MSN2 will not land immediately, the flight will continue for another 2-3 hours, adding almost 10 hours to the campaign.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (6 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 30901 times:

I wonder if they are going to let GG to fly some of the tests that were planned for WB as the original test plan did not have a break for WB for battery system change?
Then they could let WB do the needed verification of the new system and find any faults before MSN5 starts to fly.


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 30896 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 109):
the flight will continue for another 2-3 hours

I don't mind... 


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 112, posted (6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 30894 times:

MSN2 is now flying at FL430.


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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1578 posts, RR: 3
Reply 113, posted (6 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 30940 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 108):
Looks like 2 is flying on - still flying at FL380

Somebody was complaining that the A350 didn't visit Sweden yesterday, looks like the test programe is taking requests.



BV
User currently offlineThunderboltDrgn From Sweden, joined Jan 2012, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (6 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 30708 times:

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 113):
Somebody was complaining that the A350 didn't visit Sweden yesterday, looks like the test programe is taking requests.

That would be me.  

But no they're still keeping clear of Swedish airspace, going back fort between D, DK and NO.

*edit CF on her way home.

landend at 18.15UTC

[Edited 2014-03-14 11:16:42]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 115, posted (6 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 30579 times:

Both GG and CF are back on the ground.

> AIB06CF departed at 8:44 and landed at 18:16
> AIB05GG departed at 8:08 and landed at 13:39
> AIB06GG departed at 15:27 and landed at 18:07

The A350 program today reached another milestone by logging 1,260 testing hours, or 50% of the entire campaign. The breakdown is as follows:

> MSN1: 674 hours, 84% completed
> MSN2: 40 hours, 10% completed
> MSN3: 501 hours, 83% completed
> MSN4: 46 hours, 11% completed



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 116, posted (6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 30384 times:

MSN2 touchdown today in XFW with cabin lights on.


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 30227 times:

NW is off doing more noise testing in southern Spain.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 118, posted (6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 30213 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 117):
NW is off doing more noise testing in southern Spain.

Departed around 19:35UTC it seems.

So the crew is sleeping during the day, and doing flight testing at night.

[Edited 2014-03-14 13:00:26]


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 119, posted (6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 30234 times:

I think we may have a testing first today. If I am not mistaken the three test frames flying will mark up 24 hours of testing today.

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 30210 times:

Why do we have to wait so long to see the cabin of MSN2? Is there a specific reason for having or wait until April?

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 115):
> MSN1: 674 hours, 84% completed
> MSN2: 40 hours, 10% completed
> MSN3: 501 hours, 83% completed
> MSN4: 46 hours, 11% completed

I can't believe how fast MSN2 and 4 are going after just 16 days since first flight, it really shows how mature the aircraft is at this stage!

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 115):
50% of the entire campaign.

Pop the champagne!   

(Actually it might be best to wait until the aircraft is certified)



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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 30169 times:

I assume April might be when Airbus starts the official cabin test flights with actual people? I remember they did the same for the A380 when Airbus employees were allowed to travel on it to simulate passenger flights, so maybe April might be when they do this for the A350.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 122, posted (6 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 30058 times:

A nice video of the test flights in Bolivia and Canada:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/910721268cds.html



And here's a video showing how the staff works and lives aboard:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/d2821e6cfb4s.html




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User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 123, posted (6 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 29903 times:

I almost can't believe how those things are building up hours!

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 108 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 29838 times:

CF passing over us this afternoon at 38000ft !!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/13154967475_d882c10c11_c.jpg


User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (6 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 29757 times:

Fantastic silhouette!


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 126, posted (6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 29577 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 118):
Departed around 19:35UTC it seems.

And landed at 23:30UTC.

Quoting StTim (Reply 119):
If I am not mistaken the three test frames flying will mark up 24 hours of testing today.

Let's see, for today we have:

> MSN2: 9H32m
> MSN3: 5H31m + 2H40m
> MSN4: 0H21m + 4H15m + 3H55m

You are right, about 26 hours were flown today.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 127, posted (6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29282 times:

AIB05NW departed around 1:05 and landed back at 4:17 last night.


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 29237 times:

GiGi is busy flying around southern France at the moment. Take off around 08:33 Z

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 28755 times:

AIB07GG has landed at 12:07 UTC.

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 122):
And here's a video showing how the staff works and lives aboard:

http://videos.airbus.com/video/d2821....html

At 1:46 we can even see the all new advanced coffee-maker for the XWB...  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 130, posted (6 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 28168 times:

MSN4 is airborne again http://fr24.com/AIB04NW


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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (6 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 28057 times:

More noise testing. Does anyone know how long this element of the campaign may last?

User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 27298 times:

My my. NW is test flying on a Sunday. Airbus doesn't schedule much test flying on a Sunday so they must be trying to finish the campaign down in Spain as quickly as possible.

take off from SVQ at 13:14 Z


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 133, posted (6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 27153 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 132):
My my. NW is test flying on a Sunday.

Can't find her though...  

Just found this nice video of Al Bakers visit to TLS in February..., some nice footage from inside MSN6
http://www.aeronewstv.com/en/article...-on-time.html#.UyV3JVUJRzE.twitter



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (6 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 27055 times:

I know - she was up for a while as AIB04NW. I got the flight radar 24 alert and did see her up for a while.

I wonder if she was just positioning to the Moron field for later testing runs.


User currently offlineschwege From Finland, joined Jul 2013, 45 posts, RR: 1
Reply 135, posted (6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 26826 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 133):
Can't find her though...  

My apologies, the assistant was having an unscheduled and unsolicited break approx 0430 - 1600 Z.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 136, posted (6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 26423 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 133):
Just found this nice video of Al Bakers visit to TLS in February..., some nice footage from inside MSN6

Nice find, the video also shows a bit of the MSN4 cabin. In case one wonders what a "light test aircraft" means:



You can see a few seats and the water ballasts in the back of the airplane.

http://oi61.tinypic.com/11waiw7.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 137, posted (6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 26198 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 134):
I know - she was up for a while as AIB04NW. I got the flight radar 24 alert and did see her up for a while.

> AIB04NW: SVQ-OZP 13:14 - 13:24 UTC
> AIB05NW: OZP-SVQ 18:35 - 18:59 UTC



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 25625 times:

Monday morning and GiGi is preparing for daily work as AIB08GG.

EDIT: With take-off at 08:26 UTC.

[Edited 2014-03-17 01:28:32]

User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 25567 times:

So I suspect that yesterday NW was doing taxi and other ground operations noise tests at OZP. Do these count to the hours I wonder?

User currently offlineSXI899 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 25568 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 138):
Monday morning and GiGi is preparing for daily work as AIB08GG.

Off to Châteauroux.
AIB07CF is planned for another lap of Europe, same rough routing as last time.



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User currently offlineSASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 756 posts, RR: 1
Reply 141, posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 25544 times:
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Quoting SXI899 (Reply 140):

Does anyone have aprox takeoff time for this flight?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 142, posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 25395 times:

MSN4 is scheduled to visit Puerto Real, Illescas and Getafe today.

http://twitter.com/flynewsmagazine/status/445464003478028288

Quote:
The @ Airbus # A350 flyover factories Puerto Real and Illescas 11:30 10:20 Getafe at 11:45 # spotters


[Edited 2014-03-17 02:07:17]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 143, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25272 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 138):
With take-off at 08:26 UTC.

Are you sure? MSN3 just departed from TLS.




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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25151 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 143):
Are you sure?

Yes, GG did one circle and landed around 08:43 UTC.


User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25156 times:

I saw FR24 reporting GiGi airbourne before 09:00Z

NW is airbour and heading towards Cadiz on it's tour.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 146, posted (6 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 25171 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 144):
Yes, GG did one circle and landed around 08:43 UTC.

Thanks.

In the meantime, MSN4 is on its way to visit the factories.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/30bkbvs.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 147, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 25007 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 145):
I saw FR24 reporting GiGi airbourne before 09:00Z

Disappeared around Châteauroux at 9:53.



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User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 24949 times:

And now CF starts her third European tour.

Still waiting for WiBi to come back on line.


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 149, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 24765 times:

The tour was the end of MSN4's trip to Spain (as I expected)..., passed the French border again and descending to TLS.

MSN3 is finished at CHR and flying South again



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User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1039 posts, RR: 4
Reply 150, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 24644 times:



Start of CF's third European tour that StTim mentioned.


User currently offlineMarquis From Germany, joined Sep 2005, 274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 151, posted (6 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 24226 times:

F-WZGG as AIB09GG is airborne again at 14.12 UTC.


Riding the radials...
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 152, posted (6 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 24425 times:

Quoting Marquis (Reply 151):
F-WZGG as AIB09GG is airborne again at 14.12 UTC.

She's still on the ground, second RTO.

[edit]

Airborne now at 14:23.

[Edited 2014-03-17 07:25:27]


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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (6 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 24220 times:

GiGi flying at 2800ft, what kind of test is done at that altitude?

Back and forth over the fields... crop dusting?

[Edited 2014-03-17 09:23:34]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 154, posted (6 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 24034 times:

A few nice shots of MSN3 taken today:


msn3 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


msn3 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr


AIB108GG 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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Reply 155, posted (6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 23709 times:

GiGi landed UTC 17.55

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 23464 times:

AIB07CF has landed back in XFW at 18:37 UTC.

User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 157, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 23469 times:

Those engines are deceptively huge. Trying to figure out why they look smaller than they actually are.

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 423 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 23326 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 157):
Trying to figure out why they look smaller than they actually are.

I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!
Just look at some pictures, where you can compare the A350 with other frames:
Even besides the A380 it doesn't look small:
http://www.airbus.com/galleries/phot...50-xwb-a380-ground-view-1/?share=1
or compare it to the truck:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...d=da95f58ac51f67a969b05af30b06ed58


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 23288 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 157):
Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):

I think another thing is that because the A350 has much larger windows than any other Airbus aircraft, it makes it look much smaller than it actually is, when you look at the windows and the engines at the same time it looks like the engines are more A320 sized. Then when you look in pictures of it compared to other aircraft, it looks huge!



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 160, posted (6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 23130 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):
I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!

The A350 is bigger than people would assume. The wing span alone is the same as the 777-300ER, and the A350-1000 will have the same fuselage length as well.

[Edited 2014-03-17 14:33:12]


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User currently offlineLeeloo From Sweden, joined Jan 2010, 12 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 22985 times:

Good Evening,
May i just step in and ask you "professionals" a question  It's truly a remarkable machine in every aspect and i follow the progress closely like all of us.

I know this was mentioned before during first roll out and so on but want to check again as more and more airframes come to live of the A350, will all frames have the black painted cockpit window frames or will we ever see one with the "normal" white??

Just curious!

Thanks.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 162, posted (6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 22973 times:

MSN2 above TLS today:


AIB07CF 17/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

Quoting Leeloo (Reply 161):
I know this was mentioned before during first roll out and so on but want to check again as more and more airframes come to live of the A350, will all frames have the black painted cockpit window frames or will we ever see one with the "normal" white??

As far as I know, it's a cosmetic feature only so it's up to the customer to decide.



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 22911 times:

I don't know if anyone has seen this yet, but here's a picture of MSN1 taken sometime this month. If it was taken a few days ago (there is no date) then I don't think it will be flying again in at least a week or more...  
View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Alexey Petrov - RuSpotters Team




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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 22712 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 158):
I think the XWB is well proportioned and the whole airplane normally looks smaller then it is!
Just look at some pictures, where you can compare the A350 with other frames:
Even besides the A380 it doesn't look small:
http://www.airbus.com/galleries/phot...50-xwb-a380-ground-view-1/?share=1
or compare it to the truck:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Airbu...d=da95f58ac51f67a969b05af30b06ed58

Yeah, it really does drive home the size when you see it in comparison to other things. I remember when it first rolled out, I thought it actually looked like a NB and narrower than the A330.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 165, posted (6 months 9 hours ago) and read 21853 times:

MSN1 on the move today.


msn1 18/3/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 166, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 21310 times:

Do you have any idea from where to where? From where it was undergoing the upgrades back to the flight test line perhaps?

User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 167, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 21272 times:

Just look at the respective engine sizes between the 146 (ok it is probably an RJ100) and the A350 way further away from the camera.

User currently offlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 168, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20464 times:

After a day of no test flying (from what I could see) it looks like at least CF is off on another tour of Europe.

User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 169, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20403 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 163):

Its unlikely to be that recent, as there have been screening delays due to another successful upgrade needing fixing, so it could easily be some weeks old...

And I see that it was under tow yesterday in what seemed to be one piece... so makes sense that the photo is a little "aged"...



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Reply 170, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20386 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):
Its unlikely to be that recent, as there have been screening delays due to another successful upgrade needing fixing, so it could easily be some weeks old...

And surprise surprise, there's no date on the photo... I really hate when photographers do that, But they obviously have some reason to do it...



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 171, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20349 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):

Phew, I'm glad about that, I really want to see her back up in the air again. I've kind of missed her!  


Which aircraft will be doing the extreme temperature tests in May, will it be GG?



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 172, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20313 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 168):
After a day of no test flying (from what I could see) it looks like at least CF is off on another tour of Europe.

Now looks to be turning back...



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 173, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20327 times:

MSN2 is doing rounds over the North Sea right now. Shame we have cloudy skies at the moment.
http://twitter.com/HAM_aviation/status/446219209450590208/photo/1

Does anybody know if it's just going to be circling or another large "Euro-trip"?  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 174, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20345 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 171):
Which aircraft will be doing the extreme temperature tests in May, will it be GG?

MSN3 will undergo extreme temperature tests at the McKinley Climatic Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base in Florida.

The hot weather campaign in the Middle East is scheduled for June.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 717 posts, RR: 6
Reply 175, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20335 times:

Quoting Speedbird128 (Reply 169):

Same photographer has uploaded more photos from TLS this month, http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...y%20Petrov%20-%20RuSpotters%20Team

Including Skymark A380 with some unatached engines, roll out with all 4 attached was March 13th. Also a picture of MSN3 landing was uploaded, he dated that one on March 5th.

Quoting EK17 (Reply 172):

Second flight from XFW started out this way too, about an hour at 10k feet and then a Eurotrip



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 176, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20277 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 174):

Thanks for clearing that up!

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):
Including Skymark A380 with some unatached engines, roll out with all 4 attached was March 13th. Also a picture of MSN3 landing was uploaded, he dated that one on March 5th.

They may have all been taken on March 5th, which would make sense that MSN1 was mostly in one piece yesterday.

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):
Second flight from XFW started out this way too, about an hour at 10k feet and then a Eurotrip

Is there a reason for all of these Eurotrips? I'm annoyed because the route isn't over where I live!  



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User currently offlineSpeedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 177, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 20510 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 175):

Thanks for the sleuthing...!!!



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 178, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 20401 times:

Quoting CrimsonChin (Reply 166):
Do you have any idea from where to where? From where it was undergoing the upgrades back to the flight test line perhaps?

It was towed to another hangar.

I assume the new battery system will be tested inside the big C63 hangar first.

[Edited 2014-03-19 03:22:55]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 179, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 20124 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 120):
Why do we have to wait so long to see the cabin of MSN2? Is there a specific reason for having or wait until April?

The Aircraft Interiors Expo in Hamburg early next month is the perfect moment to unveil the cabin.

http://www.aircraftinteriorsexpo.com/



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 180, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 19363 times:

AIB08CF touchdown in XFW at 17:49 UTC.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11612 posts, RR: 33
Reply 181, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 18967 times:

MSN2 arriving in XFW today.


A350 F-WWCF by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr