Timmay From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 2513 times:
That really is good news, the Tourism sector in SA are complaining this season with seat shortages on flights to and from Europe. With the local currency (ZAR) at an all time low, South Africa is very cheap for those with hard currencies !
SunAir From India, joined Jun 2009, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2435 times:
This is great news. I know many people who have been complaining that they cannot get flights to Europe, because every flight to anywhere in Europe is full. After many airlines (Austrian, Sabena, Alitalia) pulled out, it is no wonder. So this is a great addition.
I know they use 744's to JNB and CPT. Not sure about the frequency, but I think it's daily. They also code share with SAA on the route.
Vermeer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 447 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
LH fies daily to Jo'burg with LH572 using a LH aircraft that is codeshared with SAA as SA7572 that rotates from JBG to CPT.
SAA flies with its own aircraft SA261 ( also on codeshare with LH as LH9860) departing from FRA only 15 minutes before the other flight.
Therefore we can say that LH flies twice a day to South Africa form FRA and now they have 4 more flights a week.
Usually LH flies with 744 and SAA with 743's having the 744 deployed on the North Atlantic routes
D-AIFB From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2364 times:
Actually the new service MUC-JNB will be served three times a week, not four times.
SA operated twice weekly mainly B743 from JNB to MUC with either a connecting service to CPH or to DUS. Sometimes they brought the B747SP. I can´t remember the excact date at the moment, but they pulled out of this market in the mid 90s in a phase of downturning traffic to south africa, albeit Southern Germany is a major source of passengers to South Africa. Also MUC had fewer conntecting possibilities at this time, because the LH MUC hub wasn´t as big as it is today. So altogether the flight wasn´t profitable at all. They concentrated their services at FRA and ZRH.
Recently there appeared rumours (from an SA official in Germany in an interview with the aviation magazine "Flugrevue") about a possible SA comeback in MUC in perhaps about two years.
AFa340-300E From France, joined May 1999, 2084 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2327 times:
Indeed, South African Airways (SAA) chose to refocus on the FRA market instead. I imagine there were some high costs related to the operations of additional short legs (FRA-MUC, FRA-DUS).
Did they mention why they have such an interest in the MUC market (and LH in the JNB one)?
I know BMW A.G. has a factory in South Africa, and some Bavarian employees from München, Dingolfing, ... were proposed to work some time down there. But I really doubt this is enough to warrant the profitability of regular operations...
What is the schedule of the MUC-JNB-MUC flights?
What about the MUC-LHR-MUC?
That could potentially enlightus about the strategy of Lufthansa for this flight. When Austrian Airlines operated services on VIE-JNB, most of its customers where connecting on LHR flights, providing substantial revenue.