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User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
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We're Still Hot! - Caribbean Aviation Thread 108 (by BW424 Jan 6 2014 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 18239 times:

a388 Air Caraibes runs a PAR SXM flight with A330s, which are twin engines. Obviously they cant weight restrict with fuel as it is a nonstop flight to PAR. They have a larger passenger load, over 350 seats vs BWs 221 seats. Their fares to PAR from SXM are only slightly higher than their much higher volume fares to PAR from FDF, and considerably lower than what AF charges on its own PAR SXM flights.

TX cant be weight restricting with fuel, so they must be with passengers, but I doubt that they are running half empty planes across the Atlantic, even if they are loading them less than they do on their other trans Atlantic routes. Not with those low fares.


User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 18183 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 1):
Obviously they cant weight restrict with fuel as it is a nonstop flight to PAR. They have a larger passenger load, over 350 seats vs BWs 221 seats.

These passengers dont travel like West Indian folks you might have a flight of 350 pax but you only carrying about 6 containers of bags where as if it were your typical VFR pax you will max out the bellies and still maybe have left over bags.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 18170 times:

Beewee15 says it right, in TX case they will limit on cargo carried so in that view the aircraft will not be fully loaded.

A388


User currently offlinekl838 From Netherlands Antilles, joined Oct 2010, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 18165 times:

KLM used to fly the MD11 nonstop in conjunction with the 744 triangular route back in the day, so I don't see why a 767 can't make it. What are AF and KL going to do since all their next gen aircraft will be two engined aircraft? I expect to see either A332 or A350 on the route for AF and a 787 for KL, the A343 is getting very long in the tooth, especially since they aren't getting AF's newest Business, Premium Economy and Economy cabins.

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User currently offlinemastermis From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2008, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 18141 times:

Does anyone have any news about Bluesky Cayman?
Last I heard they were supposed to start service to EIS and some of the other islands.

http://www.blueskycayman.com/ Not much info on their website.

The last news I saw can be found here:

http://www.compasscayman.com/caycomp...rline-launching-in-Cayman-Islands/

(I searched the previous thread and saw nothing)


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 18093 times:

Repost from last thread...


V2-LIG ATR42 msn 1009 has been delivered to LIAT and has left TLS today. It makes the 3rd ATR-42 and 7th ATR aircraft in LI's fleet.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 18069 times:

Kl838, weight restrictions apply due to the mountain that is close by. Twin engine aircraft due to them only having one engine available in a one engine out scenario have much stricter rules for safety purposes. A 747 has 4 engines, a MD11 has 3 so they only lose 25% and 33% of their lift while the 767, A330, 777, A350, 787 will lose 50% of their lift when one engine goes out. This makes SXM less attractive as twin engine operation. Airlines will have to fly with a limitation of some sort to safely fly long haul from here.

A388


User currently offlinedivemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17982 times:

Quoting mastermis (Reply 5):
Does anyone have any news about Bluesky Cayman?
Last I heard they were supposed to start service to EIS and some of the other islands.

http://www.blueskycayman.com/ Not much info on their website.

Last I heard was October was the start date! Lets wait and see......



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 17982 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 2):

Now that the limits are 2 bags 50 lbs I dont know that any one is any different. Any way BW will not be flying West Indians on the SXM run so that its not relevant.

@ a388.

TX uses A330 planes to fly PAR SXM PAR 1 to 3X per week, depending on the time of the year. They fly nonstop, so clearly this is not only technically possible, but also the civil aviation authorities have no problem with it.

This will also not be a cargo route for BW, so I dont know that they will have challenges that TX will not have.

@LimaFoxTango


Will there be more ATRs expected? Or does LI need to find more money first? That is the portion that the shareholders were supposed to contribute in full, but havent seem to have managed to as of now.



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 17939 times:

Any news on how GEO is going to welcome CM?


I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 17933 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 9):
Will there be more ATRs expected? Or does LI need to find more money first? That is the portion that the shareholders were supposed to contribute in full, but havent seem to have managed to as of now.

I've being checking their page and all flights are bookable until September! so the "unhelpful" routes to be axed are a mystery so far...


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 17920 times:

Guyanam I have explained enough now but you just don't want to believe me so I won't discuss this anymore. Believe what you want to believe or contact Boeing or Airbus engineers for more explanations!

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 17874 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 12):

You never responded to the TX flight with an A330 and why BW cant fly a 767. You kept on referring to KL.

So why can TX fly nonstop to PAR with an A330 and BW cant fly to LGW with a 767? They both are twin engine planes. TX take off weight must be heavier because they have more seats. Both definitely must have a high fuel load to cross the Atlantic.

And TX definitely isn't flying a half empty plane at fares only slightly higher than their high volume PAR FDF route.

So why? You never answered.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 17800 times:

Guyanam please read my posts. Nowhere did I say that twin engined cannot do the route. I'm talking about weight restrictions on twin engine aircraft so BW can operate the route but with restrictions in one way or the other.

A388


User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 17692 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 14):
Guyanam please read my posts. Nowhere did I say that twin engined cannot do the route. I'm talking about weight restrictions on twin engine aircraft so BW can operate the route but with restrictions in one way or the other.

A388

Guyanam what we are telling you is that there are restrictions when flying into and out of some airports eg: SXM.
At SXM you have a mountain infront of you to clear. So your simple choices will be :

1 - Take your pax and their bags only with no cargo and fly nonstop to Paris or London.
2 - If you dont have a full pax load you take some cargo and fly nonstop to Paris and London
3 - If you have a heavy load you take enough fuel to get to FDF refuel there and continue to Paris or London

Now if you read between the lines everything points to what A388 has been saying "WEIGHT RESTRICTIONS"


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 17678 times:

Beewee15 is correct, it all comes down to weight restrictions especially on twin engined aircraft due to the environment of certain airports such as SXM, BOG and UIO.

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 17561 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 15):

Neither TX, nor BW, if they start the route, will be cargo carriers out of SXM. Even assuming that SXM had out bound airfreight to Europe (which I doubt) it will probably be on AF.

TX flies nonstop with fares 65% to 80% of that of AF. And about 15% higher than the high density FDF route.

Can it sustain those airfares with 65% weight restricted loads? Yes I can imagine fewer passengers, but weight restricted at 220? While AF might be obligated to provide service to SXM, as it is an overseas territory and AF is the flg carrier, TX has no such obligations, so they must be making money.

BW has 103 fewer seats, assuming that TX uses their smaller A330. Are you suggesting that 767 engines are weaker than an A330? I assume that the 767 will be lighter on take off as it has fewer seats.


Any case its very unlikely that BW will be running this route. The VFR is nil, and premium UK passengers aren't going to use them. So SXM will have to fill their planes using second tier UK tour operators. They will prefer BA, who will actually be able to GROW the market, once SXM becomes more accessable.


Only way BW gets it is if BA says categorical no, no way.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (4 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 17522 times:

Guyanam you are finally getting it. One thing you have to remember and take into account with twin engined aircraft is the one engine out scenario. That gives these aircraft weight restrictions on certain routes.

About BA saying no, yes I think they will say no as this is not their core business or something they are looking for if demand isn't that impressive.


A388


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 17417 times:

All about SXM and whether BA or BW would fly from there to the UK, I see. Two other things to remember - in fact A330 engines are more powerful than 767 engines and again that is due to the general engine-out issue. As the A330 is a larger plane than the 767 the engines have to be larger to handle the engine-out on take-off rule. As such an A330 on engine-out could possibly handle a higher take-off weight than a 767 so TX could would be proportionally less affected than BW by weight restrictions.

The other thing to remember is there are more aspects to the cargo issue than first appear. SXM is not a major generator of air cargo though it is perhaps a reasonably-sized destination for same. As such the TX, AF and KL flights from there uplift little freight. While BW would not get freight from there, remember that their flights would start and end in POS which is a huge origin and destination for cargo. With BW having fewer resources and thus flights available between POS and LGW, the need to operate via weight-restricted SXM on some of their precious LGW rotations could prove a major financial liability. While KL and particularly AF bring down large quantities of cargo to the respective islands (CUR, AUA, BON and FDF, PTP respectively) they operate virtually every day, sometimes multiple flights, to those destinations. In fact, ORY - PTP and FDF are among the 10 busiest trans-Atlantic routes overall! BW simply do not have that capacity.

I think that SXM to LGW is a major gamble for BW and perhaps not a wise move given things right now.

Trintocan.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17363 times:

Trintocan yes the A330 is more modern aircraft and slightly bigger so it will have a better performance albeit still being weight restrictions.

I do hope Caribbean Airlines gets the flight as it will mean nice aircraft photos in SXM in their hummingbird livery over Mahoo Beach 

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 17361 times:

Quoting trintocan (Reply 19):

I will tend to agree with you on the BW gamble. They aren't a leisure airline and I don't see them offering what SXM wants. That is an ability to grow the UK market from its existing 14k, to a larger number.

Your point about the 767 engines was the answer that I was looking for. If the engines are weaker than the A330 then they cant service the route, because I don't see SXM wasting time to support the route for just a small number of passengers. Especially as BW is a risky proposition, given the uncertainties of its ability to attract the UK leisure traveler.

BW seem to want to justify the LGW route by looking to grow it, and that doesn't seem possible based on their POS/GEO markets. Of all the routes currently under review the LGW is probably being looked at most closely as it has the potential to be a huge money loser, if it isn't already. BW has probably grabbed as much market share as they can on these routes, which are also not growing.

They have been crowded out of the BGI, ANU, UVF, markets. TAB is dead, so they are looking at SXM, knowing that the island wants airlift out of the UK. And indeed has been trying to get it for at least 5 years now. The issue with POS originating travel and cargo is moot, because BW would be looking for this as a 4th frequency, and tying it with TAB, rather than POS. I don't think TAB can deliver passengers though. I mean if BA and VS have seen declining loads......!


As to BA. Well their LGW PUJ flights are now nonstop, effective winter 2014/15, which releases some opportunities for their flights down to ANU, which now continue on to other islands only 3X week. Maybe they can do a run to SXM 1-2X via ANU. They will definitely demand the revenue guarantee that they demand out of SKB. SXM may pay them too. SBH might be good fit for the high end UK market, and BA will be the perfect product to deliver it, via SXM, given the demographics of their premium passengers.

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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 17304 times:

Quoting trintocan (Reply 19):
As the A330 is a larger plane than the 767 the engines have to be larger to handle the engine-out on take-off rule. As such an A330 on engine-out could possibly handle a higher take-off weight than a 767 so TX could would be proportionally less affected than BW by weight restrictions.

the 763s engine out performance is not far off of to a A332. It is better than a 333. Even the mighty 777 would take a penalty at SXM on takeoff due to engine out / terrain / range charts.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 17274 times:

I assume that the current Acting CEO of BW, being a pilot, and probably having landed at SXM, will not be ignorant of the limitations of that airport. His mission is to turn around BW, so his focus will be (or should be) on not serving any route, unless it is profitable.

The issue, as I understand it, is that BWs LGW route, as it exists, isnt profitable. So for it to remain, they have to grow it. UK GEO travel is very small, and unlikely to grow, so even thougth BW is well placed to serve that route, it has limited potential.

POS will be divided between BA and BW. Each most likely serves its own market. BA offers good connections beyond LGW and a high frequency, and a strong brand. BW is nonstop and will enjoy the loyalty of much of the VFR market (such as it exists) as well as Trinis traveling to the UK. Many local (and Guyanese) business people are probably on its CaribbeanMiles program, so will prefer them.

BWs problem is that it has probably grabbed all the market share from BA that it can, so sees no growth prospects. So they are looking at TAB and SXM as possible growth points. TAB, for some reason, has seen a drastic drop in its international arrivals (60%), which is way beyond what can be explained by the current recession, or the APD. Even BA and VS have seen a sharp drops into TAB, so I really dont see what potential that leaves BW. If the big UK carriers, with their strong tour operator capabilities, cant save TAB, I dont see how BW could.

That leaves SXM, as BGI, ANU, and UVF have very heavy presence of BA, VS, and some charters, and so there is no room for BW. We have already discussed the risks of SXM for BW.

I am really not sure what kind of VFR market now exists out of the UK. The Caribbean descended population are now mainly UK born and/or bred. I dont know that BW can rely on them to be loyal, as they can among Caribbean populations in North America. This remains BWs core market. SXM will be 100% leisure, and the jury is out about whther BW can profitable service that market. They failed on the JFK ANU.


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16869 times:

Any news on that?: "Tiara air of Aruba had its license revoked".


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User currently offlinedfwjim1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 16837 times:
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In regards to SXM and the engine out issue, why not have the heavies take off on runway 28 to avoid the mountains?

User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 26, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 16803 times:

HI all,

So not really Caribbean Aviation related- I had my first ride in an A380! BA Biz Class POS-LGW (772), LHR-JNB (A380, JNB-LHR (744), LGW-POS (772). Sat on the upper deck. Great ride.

Anyways- any confirmation on POS-SVD flights yet?

AA1818



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 27, posted (4 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 16849 times:

Dfwjim1, the answer to your question is simple: there is a road passing that side of the runway that connects the city with the airport and vice versa. Another major factor is the close proximity of buildings there. Remember the KL 747 that caused so much damage there recently?

AA1818, I envy you Big grin

A388

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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 28, posted (4 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 16645 times:

Does anyone know whether LIAT will stop flying to Curacao or not? For how long will Caribbean Airlines use their 767's?

Is any of this news known by now?

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 16612 times:

One day when you notice that LI has stopped flying to CUR then you know they aren't going. They "temporarily" suspended service to NEV around Xmas, and have never returned. I don't think that they even told the Nevis gov't that they stopped and NEV is still a booking option on their website, but of course no flights are available.

An alternate will be when the LI staff go on strike, protesting their salaries after yet another delay, or when the lessors seize the planes.

They claim to be deciding within 100 days, which should be by June, but who knows.

I guess the 767 depends on whether BW can make the LGW route work or not. But if they get rid of them, they will need another 738, as this summer their fleet will be maxed out, and that is with the 767s. This is to replace the 767 on the GEO routes.

Of course if B6 snatches big market share on the POS routes then maybe that will not be a problem.,


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 30, posted (4 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 16509 times:

Guyanam,

Thanks for the explanation. I assume your reply is only based on your opinion(?) Nobody here is aware of any cancellation to CUR. The decrease now is only temporary and will be increased to 3 x per week again starting July. If any of you have an official statement of LIAT stating that CUR will be cancelled, please let me know. This same goes for any official statement from Caribbean Airlines regarding their 767 fleet. I would like to plan a spotting trip next year to POS to see these airlines/aircraft so I'm really hoping they will still be flying by then!!!

Cheers,

A388


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 31, posted (4 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16368 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 29):

Yes LI did advise the Nevis govt of their cut in flights for their winter schedule. They were to return in mid Jan but clearly that hasn't happen. It when then Nevis govt got SVGAir to do their ANU-NEV runs.

Quoting A388 (Reply 30):

Not sure where or when this speculation of LI cutting CUR began. Yes it is down to 2x from 3x, but so is ANU-SJU. That's now 4x down from 7x. This is currently LI's low season and the schedule simply reflects that. To be honest, I don't see LI cutting any routes, but rather simply reducing frequencies. If that's still deemed financially untenable, well only then a cut is necessary IMO.

In other news, it appears LI will have a new CEO come May 1.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 32, posted (4 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 16300 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 30):

Yes its my opinion. If LIATs CUR operations are profitable, it stays, if not it goes, if for no other reason than to communicate to people that they mean business. I doubt CUR is going to provide any subsidies to LI.

LI is running out of time, and indeed there are those who suggest that it will be gone by the end of next year unless they do something radically different. I don't see any one putting money in, until LI does something to prove that they are sustainable. After all if the grand daddy of Caribbean aviation, BWIA can be shut down and a new carrier replace it with a different mission, who is to say that LI might not be forced down that road.

The issue of BW was stated already by one ofr the posters close to them. I only reiterate what they say. If LGW goes it might be hard for them to keep the 767s, much as I wish they would for the GEO. But with no fuel subsidy and serious battles with B6 they too have to make some decsions concern non performing routes.

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 31):
LI seems to have some very low load factors, based on reports. 55-60%! Their expenses have gone way beyond their revenues. Staff not paid on time, Planes almost seized. NOT GOOD!

So something drastic will have to happen, and I guess that will be the first order of business sometime after May 1. The new CEO will have lots to do.

LI keeps on babbling about "social routes" which need to be cut., or revenue support arrangements put in place. SKN, SLU, and GND are broke, so cannot help, even if they wanted to as they are all in the IMFs hands.. If LI doesn't act on its threats then they begin to look rather silly.

Li did tell NEV that they would be back after Xmas. but didn't show up in Jan. So we can say they just disappeared, without telling NEV anything.

[Edited 2014-03-26 21:46:26]

User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 33, posted (4 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16258 times:

Quoting dfwjim1 (Reply 25):

In regards to SXM and the engine out issue, why not have the heavies take off on runway 28 to avoid the mountains

In addition to what A388 said, it would also depend on the winds. I don't have any numbers, but I doubt a widebody twin can take off from there with a tailwind without taking a penalty.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 34, posted (4 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 16222 times:

Well, it seems we have totally different opinions on LI stopping CUR. Please keep me informed about whether LI will stop flying to CUR or not and also what Caribbean Airlines' plans are for their 767 fleet.

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User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 35, posted (4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 15848 times:

LIAT Appoints Mr. David Evans Chief Executive Officer


ST. JOHN’S, Antigua, March 31, 2014 – The Board of Directors of LIAT – The Caribbean Airline – today announced the appointment of Mr. David Evans as Chief Executive Officer (CEO), effective 22nd April 2014.

Mr. Evans, a British national, is a results driven executive with more than 35 years of experience in senior roles within the aviation industry.

Between 1975 and 1997, Mr. Evans served as Airport Manager, Country Manager and Area Manager with British Airways in East Africa, Saudi Arabia, France, Philippines, China, Denmark and the United States. In this latter role, he held responsibility for the airline’s activities in Latin America and the Caribbean.

In 1997, he became Managing Director, British Airways Regional, a position held until 2001 when he became Managing Director, British Airways CitiExpress and BA Connect, serving in that capacity for six years.

He Joined the United Nations UNDP programme in 2007 and under their auspices served as Chief Operating Officer of Zambian Airways in 2007. In 2009 he joined Kuwait start-up airline Wataniya Airways as Chief Commercial Officer. Since then he has provided strategic and commercial consultancy services to Egypt’s Nile Air and other organisations in the Middle East.

Mr. Evans, who speaks Spanish, French, German and Mandarin Chinese, holds an MBA in Business Administration from Lancaster University and Combined Honours in Modern Languages from Wadham College, Oxford University.

Mr. Evans assumes the chief executive responsibilities from Mrs. Julie Reifer-Jones, who has been Acting CEO since the resignation of Captain Ian Brunton in September 2013.

http://www.liat.com/navSource.html?page_id=780



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (4 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 15739 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 35):

Quite impressive background, let's see how he'll handle LI, European managers are often "straight to the point".

Any guesses?

I do: he'll reduce flight quantity, not sure he'll drop the "social routes" yet.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 37, posted (4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15670 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 36):

If LI is operating routes that are social. i.e. having no ability to be profitable, the new CEO will be just the man to deal with this issue. Not being from the Caribbean he is less vulnerable to influence from local stakeholders, including politicians. He can be blamed as being the
hatchet man.

LI needs to address the issue of social routes, or stop complaining about it. If the operation isn't profitable, then it should not be running unprofitable rouytes, unless revenue guarantees are provided. If these routes are important governments will find the money, or make other arrangements, as NEV had to.

What LI needs to do is move away from a model where they rely on unending subsidies from gov'ts. These islands are broke.

Lets face it, the US and UK leisure markets are larger and more beneficial than is intra regional travel. So if AA or BA hold these govts over a barrel and demand subsidies, they will get them. Its very easy for a major carrier to just zero out a Caribbean destination. When that island how ever loses service from a major market its a disaster. The last thing that an island like SKB will want is to have their US visitors being forced to use (GASP) LI. All one has to do is to check tripadvisor to know that any island that only has LI is an island which will attract fewer international visitors.

LI will need to move to a model where the negotiate with impacted islands routes which will never be viable, but which an island might consider important. So if, as an example DOM thinks that the flight from SJU is critical, then LI should obtain revenue guarantees if they can prove that the route needs support.


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 15378 times:

CAL flops on London route

Caribbean Airlines’ route to London Gatwick has proven unsuccessful. So said Finance Minister Larry Howai in the Senate yesterday as he responded to questions on the operations and management of CAL. But the airline would not be cancelling the route, he said.


“The London route has not been a profitable route. We are in the process of doing a full evaluation of route optimisation analysis to determine how best we might be able to rationalise the overall level of routes for Caribbean Airlines but we have made no final decision with respect to any of the routes. All routes are in the process of being currently evaluated,” Howai said. PNM Senator Faris Al-Rawi asked whether the “route analysis would meet with the analysis which the new board was to put in place within 90 days of its appointment.”

Howai said the board had done a full analysis in terms of cost reduction and submitted a report. He added: “Following the analysis of the report I then asked that the specific route analysis be done as I wasn’t satisfied with the suggestions and recommendations that came from the first evaluation. “Caribbean Airlines had to employ specific consultancy support to assist with the completion of that exercise and the exercise is due to be completed within the next month.”

Pressed by Al-Rawi on who the consultant was, Howai said he did not have the name with him. On the training of non-national pilots, Howai said CAL trained 41 people during 2008 to 2013 and all worked for the airline on contract.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2014-04-03/howai-cal-flops-london-route



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 39, posted (3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 15338 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 38):
CAL flops on London route

I think we are all anxious in seeing how each of their routes have performed and more importantly which routes will stay and which will go should that happen. I still get the impression that their 767 fleet is here to stay at least for this year. When do those lease contracts expire?

Regarding LIAT, I'm also very interested in what will happen there regarding their CUR flights as I would like to fly their brandnew ATR's before they stop flying to CUR. I prefer their ATR72 over their ATR42 though 

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 15297 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 39):

Do you have a way of finding out what LIs loads to CUR are? That will determine if they drop CUR or not. And I mean at this time of the year. Not Jul/Aug when I assume that the loads will be strong.

It appears as if BW will try their best to save the LGW route, so the 767s will most likely stay. This is going to be a tough year for them though, with heightened B6 competition and no fuel subsidy.

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 38):

I also wonder what impact B6 is having on the JFK POS route, and on the FLL POS, once that starts next month. B6 has low fares, and I gather that many are taking advantage. It will be interesting to see if more travel is being stimulated or if most of it are people switching from BW.

[Edited 2014-04-03 08:54:35]

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 41, posted (3 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 15246 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 40):
Do you have a way of finding out what LIs loads to CUR are? That will determine if they drop CUR or not. And I mean at this time of the year. Not Jul/Aug when I assume that the loads will be strong.

Unfortunately I don't have the loads but I heard it is about 50 percent but they also carry cargo on the flight which also seems to be good for LIAT. Maybe our friends in the forum here can shed more light on this.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 40):
I also wonder what impact B6 is having on the JFK POS route, and on the FLL POS, once that starts next month. B6 has low fares, and I gather that many are taking advantage. It will be interesting to see if more travel is being stimulated or if most of it are people switching from BW.

Checking for a return flight a week from now the prices from JFK are very high (USD693.40 all in). However, a return ticket in October costs USD430.40. The April flight is definately not cheap but probably that is because of the close dates. Even so, it is an interesting question, we will need some patience to see how the load factors will be at the end of the year. It is too early now to make conclusions.

A388


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 42, posted (3 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 15192 times:

Seems some CM people in GEO these days. Waiting to hear what they've to say about Guyana. Hope they don't miss visit to famous rum distillery.


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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 43, posted (3 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 15144 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):

Well if LI makes money on the cargo that will offset the mediocre loads.

April is probably high because of Easter. May has Jetblue with $421 and BW with $511. BW has cut their fares. Guess the $200 gap had people defecting.


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (3 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 15111 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 41):

I doubt LI carries that much cargo on its pax flights to offset any poor performing route. Not sure the numbers for CUR, but IMO, it does decent enough keep it. Perhaps if its marketed more the numbers will go up. Anyway there's no time like the present. Try hopping on that flight! You never know what the future holds.

With regards to BW and their LGW route, I think it was no secret the route is under performing. Having now publically admitting it, I'm surprised they have no intent on cutting it (at least not anytime soon). I think we all know the end of the LGW route will be the end of the 767's.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 45, posted (3 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 15038 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 44):

LIs problem on the CUR is that PY is the competition with jets and 3X per week. Given that a lot of people go to shop I can well imagine that PY has an advantage on the POS CUR. It depends on how much LI gets out of ANU and SLU. Given SXM is English speaking and offers the same attraction St Lucians might prefer there. Obviously Antiguans will, given that its a quick 30 minute flight away.

As for LGW, well BW seems to want to keep it, I guess due to complications unwinding out of the 767 lease. I am not sure how much they can do, based on POS alone though. Another issue is that JFK isn't going to throw off the yields that it did last year with B6 on that route now, so each route will have to pull its own weight.

[Edited 2014-04-03 20:54:13]

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 46, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 14863 times:

Reported in another thread that VS has canned TAB.


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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 47, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 14852 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 46):

No surprise as TAB has seen a 60% slump in its foreign visitors over the last 5 years. Definitely more than any other Caribbean destination. Same blame deteriorating hotel stock. Others the well publicized criminal incidents against tourists, with TAB obviously not using quality PR agencies, as an attack on a tour bus in St Lucia late last year was hushed up..


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 48, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14825 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 47):
as an attack on a tour bus in St Lucia late last year was hushed up..

We to be fair their are incidents against tourists in the USA too…...



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 49, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 14768 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 48):

That's true but people don't visit the USA for rest and tranquility, so a reputation for crime hurts the Caribbean more. Especially the smaller more off the beaten track islands like TAB, as many go to those islands, which have a limited range of activities and amenities, precisely because they wish to escape the trials of the modern world.

This might be why SLU was able to quiet the bus attack, but when a similar incident happened on SKB several years ago it went viral, even hitting the evening news in several TV markets.


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 50, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14758 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 20):

I do hope Caribbean Airlines gets the flight as it will mean nice aircraft photos in SXM in their hummingbird livery over Mahoo Beach

BW already serve SXM and have done so for their entire existence. SXM is served on the POS - KIN runs. Predecessor BWIA started flying to SXM in the 1980s, linking KIN in a route on which JM kept a codeshare for many years.

On the topic of BW and the LGW route, I have always had my doubts as to whether it was a wise decision on their part to restart London services. BW of course inherited the LHR route from BWIA in 2007 but the predecessors found it difficult going notwithstanding a POS monopoly. The trouble was that POS was and is a smaller market from the UK than many other islands - and BWIA ended up head-to-head with BA and VS in destinations such as BGI, UVF and ANU. BWIA were also stuck with a fleet of A340s which were largely a holdover from the Category 2 days of T&T (2001 - 2004) but which the airline could not afford to replace and could not easily be used on other routes. As a result the route lost money and BW cut it shortly after starting up in 2007.

With BW's withdrawal came BA who retained a BW codeshare on the LGW services. At that time too POS traffic increased significantly from the UK due to increasing business links. The thing is that much of the business traffic, especially that which is UK based, would preferentially use BA if there were a choice of airlines and so BW's arrival may have made little impact into that. BW's start in LGW in 2012 was clearly aimed at the VFR market and POS based travellers - but as mentioned the VFR market to the UK from most Caribbean markets (Jamaica being the main exception) is static if not declining.

Now we see that VS have pulled TAB. In comparing BA and VS services from this beautiful island with an unfortunately troubled tourist industry, we can see that BA have advantages which VS did not have. BA is strong in POS and wants to preserve their market share so have tried to avoid the public relations fallout which could arise from a TAB withdrawal. Alongside this their TAB flights effectively provide back-up capacity to POS which could be useful at peak times. With revenue guarantees being offered for TAB (not POS) services, BA are in a win-win position. VS had no interest in POS and so did not have the same considerations as BA which meant that pulling TAB was easier for them. The fact that VS have significant DL investment now and are being reviewed - a review which has seen them drop SYD too - also needs to be remembered in the context of this pullout.

Trintocan.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 51, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14752 times:

Trintocan I know Caribbean Airlines flies to SXM, as the discussion was about Caribbean Airlines flying from SXM to London I meant to see them fly their 767 to SXM. That will be something nice to see over Mahoo Beach 

A388


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 14744 times:

Quoting trintocan (Reply 50):

We all knew that the route was going to be a flop from the beginning. This route was nothing short of politically motivated by a man that should not have been the chairman of the company. When George Nicolas announced the return to LGW sighting, "We would not only fly the small planes but the big ones too" it too the management of CAL by surprise. In that time period the airline was looking for 777 from Egyptair and then had to take the 767 from LAN as the operations of 777 would have been a disaster in the making.
To make matters worse, the board was told but the former COO there was no way they can get pilots trained to the 767 in time for inauguration, and had to hire expats; he was demoted because the board insist on getting the route to "stick it" to the last board for political reasons. Then when his prediction came through the board had to wet lease a 767 from Omni for almost 7 months to operate the route, losing millions of dollars in the process.

CAL can fill their 767 to LGW, the problem, however cost is outstripping revenue as the sub-fleet of 767 plus crews spending days over at LGW, then running the 767 between POS-GEO empty to continue to JFK/YYZ is creating an inefficient operation. So much so that the airline has replaced one GEO-YYZ with a 738.
There was no business case for the route in the first place and IMO the route needs to be cut, the 767 return to the ILFC, pilot retrained to the 737 and use the 737 to fly the GEO-JFK/YYZ routes.

The last board knew that CAL could not have 2 widebodies operating for the sole purpose of longhaul travel. The route adds negative value to the company, sold the LHR slot to BA in return for BA taking over the route with CAL marketing and distributing seats for three years.

Howai not satisfied: CAL to redo report
"Opposition Senator Camille Rob­inson-Regis questioned Howai on whether the Trinidad-to-London route was successfully econo­mical for the airline.
Howai said it has not been pro­fitable and a consultant was hired to evaluate all CAL routes.
He said prior to this, the board had submitted an analytical report to him but he was not pleased with the recommendations.
“Following analysis of the report, I then asked that a specific route analysis be done; I wasn’t satisfied with the suggestions and recommendations which came from the first evaluation,” said Howai.
This report, he said, should be completed within the month"
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/...CAL-to-redo-report--253983901.html



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 53, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14668 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 52):
CAL can fill their 767 to LGW, the problem, however cost is outstripping revenue as the sub-fleet of 767 plus crews spending days over at LGW, then running the 767 between POS-GEO empty to continue to JFK/YYZ is creating an inefficient operation. So much so that the airline has replaced one GEO-YYZ with a 738.
There was no business case for the route in the first place and IMO the route needs to be cut, the 767 return to the ILFC, pilot retrained to the 737 and use the 737 to fly the GEO-JFK/YYZ routes.

The last board knew that CAL could not have 2 widebodies operating for the sole purpose of longhaul travel. The route adds negative value to the company, sold the LHR slot to BA in return for BA taking over the route with CAL marketing and distributing seats for three years.

Ditto 484. I believe anyone following this forum shouldn't be surprised at this "revelation". Despite Minister Howai's most recent utterings concerning not cutting the LGW route, I still have much confidence in his abilities. I certainly hope that he will revisit that decision.

Quoting trintocan (Reply 50):
BWIA were also stuck with a fleet of A340s which were largely a holdover from the Category 2 days of T&T (2001 - 2004) but which the airline could not afford to replace and could not easily be used on other routes. As a result the route lost money and BW cut it shortly after starting up in 2007.

Just to make things a bit clearer; BW always intended on cutting the route upon restarting operations on Jan. 1st, 2007. This was part of the approved master plan when the new BW was launched in Sept. of 2006. The LHR route stayed on until May of 2007 when the leases on the A340s conveniently expired. I remember BW's A340 drivers being rumoured to receive lucrative six month contracts to operate the buses during that short period. BA began service to POS from LGW in March of 2007, thus, for 2 months or so, POS had service to both LHR and LGW.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 54, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14661 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 52):

If they cut the 767 then they will need more 738s. If you look at their schedule for this summer the 738s are maxed out and that is with 767s 5x to GEO from JFK.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 53):

The response about not canceling the LGW route was in response to a question on it. If they said that they planned to cancel it then loads would have tumbled. What is telling is the comment that ALL routes are under review. So who knows. Come Sept an announcement might be that the route is discontinued from Nov and all passengers will be accommodated on BA.

Do either of you know how B6 is doing on the JFK and whether it has begun to impact BW?


User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3229 posts, RR: 4
Reply 55, posted (3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14657 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 53):
Just to make things a bit clearer; BW always intended on cutting the route upon restarting operations on Jan. 1st, 2007. This was part of the approved master plan when the new BW was launched in Sept. of 2006. The LHR route stayed on until May of 2007 when the leases on the A340s conveniently expired.

In part BW's retention of LHR at the beginning was a result of the Cricket World Cup being held in the West Indies during early 2007. BW closed the route immediately after the tournament ended.

Quoting A388 (Reply 51):
Trintocan I know Caribbean Airlines flies to SXM, as the discussion was about Caribbean Airlines flying from SXM to London I meant to see them fly their 767 to SXM. That will be something nice to see over Mahoo Beach

Actually I thought so too all along! Yes that would make a great sight, a majestic 767-300 in BW colours coming in over Maho Beach! Cameras at the ready...

Agreed with everyone else here, it's time for BW to face reality and close this LGW route. Pride by itself does not bring profit and one cannot wantonly spend precious resources on services which bring no positive returns. It is interesting that on another thread there are again gripes about BW dropping some tourist-oriented services to MBJ - again it's the same principle. Those routes drained a lot of money and caused JM to end up in such a parlous state, why do we keep flogging those matters over and over? VS bit the bullet and cut TAB and SYD as they lost money, BW just need to do the same.

Trintocan.



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 56, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14504 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
The response about not canceling the LGW route was in response to a question on it. If they said that they planned to cancel it then loads would have tumbled. What is telling is the comment that ALL routes are under review. So who knows. Come Sept an announcement might be that the route is discontinued from Nov and all passengers will be accommodated on BA.

Do either of you know how B6 is doing on the JFK and whether it has beg

Guyanam, yes, I'm fully aware of the fact that his statement concerning not cancelling the route is in response to a question. It was a 3 part question asked in the Senate by a member of the opposition.

After watching the segment on TV (Howai's response), I must say that he was very very careful, somewhat subdued, in the response he delivered. The key opening phrase concerning the cancellation of the LGW route "As of now, no decision has been made...", suggests that the decision to remove LGW is still there on receipt of the report.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
If they cut the 767 then they will need more 738s. If you look at their schedule for this summer the 738s are maxed out and that is with 767s 5x to GEO from JFK.

I was told by credible sources that utilization of the 738 fleet can be better. I was also told that on the current and upcoming schedule, there's always a spare 738 available. I think if the 767 goes, with the 738 utilization optimized, utilization will be just perfect. Once a management team has been selected, the proposed growth of KIN ops will require more 738s.

As for B6, I've heard that they're doing well. B6 isn't any EZjet, Redjet or FlyJamaica, so I'd expect them to be doing so. They've already started their corporate social responsibility campaign, partnering with a local primary school in North Trinidad.

[Edited 2014-04-05 14:55:54]


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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 57, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14415 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 56):

What expansion do they really plan out of KIN? They have arrested their decline in market share, but I haven't seen evidence of an ability to regain much of what they lost. What they need to do is offer civilized departure times to FLL. The 5:45 AM flight is a killer and many seem to complain about it. This coming from people who would rather use them than B6. If there is slack in the system why don't they offer a 7 AM departure instead?

I am skeptical that BW can add a daily 738 on its JFK GEO POS without adding more 738s, and yet guarantee reliable service during the summer. I agree that outside of peak periods there is a degree of under utilization, but not so during the peaks.

Let us hope that they don't take for granted the one market that they dominate (GEO) for dreams of significant growth in KIN.

[Edited 2014-04-05 23:17:02]

User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 58, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 14251 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 54):
Do either of you know how B6 is doing on the JFK and whether it has begun to impact BW?

Looking at the loads in the GDS they are doing well, but we have to remember we are in the busy period still and both airlines are enjoying a bit of success in getting their flights out with good loads. The real truth will be seen when September-November period comes.

For POS the period between Carnival to Easter is a busy travel period and then from June till Labor day is considered the high season. The trough will be in January, May and mostly September-November just before the Thanksgiving holidays leading to the high December period.

My concern is not really NYC but the FLL route where South Florida market is small to POS.

For example B6 forward booking on that route was terrible, so last week the airline decided to price the route from US$130 one way, airfare only which is $0.079 per seat mile to US$70 which is now at $0.044 per seat mile.
Using the same period of time for a flight between FLL-KIN B6 prices the route at base US$95 which is US$0.15 per seat mile.
Or FLL-NAS at US$70 or US0.36 per seat mile.
TO make the point looking at FLL-BOG almost the same distance to POS and a larger market, they price it at US$130 or US$0.082 per seat mile
This is the time period from May 5th 2014.

So it tells me that B6 is trying to dilute the market with unprofitable yields to fight AA and BW in a small market that we already saw some year ago NK dropped.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 57):
I am skeptical that BW can add a daily 738 on its JFK GEO POS without adding more 738s, and yet guarantee reliable service during the summer. I agree that outside of peak periods there is a degree of under utilization, but not so during the peaks.

Let us hope that they don't take for granted the one market that they dominate (GEO) for dreams of significant growth in KIN.

Actually they can and still have a/c for the busy periods, the problem is that CAL moved a number of senior Pilots from the 737 to the 767 and are yet to fill that gap left in that transition period.

As I mentioned in the other thread in a model of fleet utilization, the 738 are severely underutilized in the off season, with the 767 on the routes.
Even if they use the model and find the slack to be too small they can always lease a 767 from Omni in the peak periods, as they have done for many years.

All they have to do is make the 424/425 run the POS-GEO-JFK-GEO-POS and the same seat capacity would be achievable on a daily basis. Currently the 767 flies 4w and leave POS empty in the off season.

The thing CAL has to look for is optimality in their operations.

[Edited 2014-04-06 12:58:32]


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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 59, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14192 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 52):
CAL can fill their 767 to LGW, the problem, however cost is outstripping revenue as the sub-fleet of 767 plus crews spending days over at LGW, then running the 767 between POS-GEO empty to continue to JFK/YYZ is creating an inefficient operation.

What would be the minimum crew rest time in LGW between POS-LGW and LGW-POS flight?
Because if BW could fly POS-LGW and LGW-POS red-eyes both ways and the crew have enough rest time between flights in LGW, the same B767 might be flown POS-GEO-JFK-GEO-POS daytime 4 times per week and POS-LGW-POS thrice weekly red-eyes both ways and any GEO connecting traffic to/from LGW would be mostly welcome.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 60, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14158 times:

Some news across the region

WINAIR discontinue service to Anguilla.
"WINAIR has notified the Anguilla gov't and its handler in Anguilla that WINAIR will be discontinuing air service between St. Maarten – Anguilla – St. Maarten. When planning WINAIR's first quarter schedule to include Anguilla, our partner airline AIR ANTILLES was to lease WINAIR aircraft to operate Anguilla – San Juan - Anguilla which would have assisted in filling void created when American Eagle ceased operations in the Caribbean. It is most unfortunate that regulatory issues have caused Anguilla – San Juan – Anguilla service to be deferred until such time as required regulatory issues are satisfactorily resolved."
http://www.smn-news.com/st-maarten-s...scontinue-service-to-anguilla.html

PM Gonsalves Says High Cost of Regional Air Travel Unavoidable
"High travel taxes affecting regional air travel are a necessary evil, according to CARICOM Chairman – Prime Minister Ralph Gonsalves of St Vincent and the Grenadines. Dr Gonsalves is acknowledging that there is merit in the argument by some passengers that the region continues pressing Britain to reduce its controversial APD – Air Passenger Duty, while in the case of regional airline LIAT the taxes imposed by Caribbean governments often make up more than half the cost of the actual airline ticket."
http://www.winnfm.com/news/local/783...of-regional-air-travel-unavoidable

Surinam Airways to connect Cayenne and Miami
"The weekly flight will depart Cayenne on Saturdays at 7pm. SLM wants to connect French Guianese to its network of destinations since market research confirms that many from the neighbouring European Union territory travel by land to Paramaribo to take advantage of SLM’s competitive airfares to Miami and elsewhere."
http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/head...nnect-Cayenne-and-Miami-20468.html

LIAT Not Going Anywhere
"I want to assure all of you that LIAT is not leaving Antigua." Maginley stated. "Not when the Winston Baldwin Spencer that I know and the leaders of the United progressive party that I sit with have made a statement and saying we are going to ensure that LIAT does not move."
http://caribarenaantigua.com/antigua...06362-liat-not-going-anywhere.html



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 61, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14139 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 59):
What would be the minimum crew rest time in LGW between POS-LGW and LGW-POS flight?

12hrs but in this case with 3w scheduled flights crew are staying over 2-3 days period, even if the flights are blocked at 19.3 hrs flying POS-LGW-POS with a 2.83 hrs stop off in LGW.

As I mentioned the flights leave and arrive with high loads, the yields however are another story in the mix. For the route to become profitable they would need to fly daily at a minimum. To do that they would have to include stop over flights in ANU, BGI of UVF and given that they are heading to LGW rather than LHR, that is an up hill task.

To be successful on the LGW route CAL needs to configure their a/c into a high density longhaul rather than the premium config of LAN.
For instance they would need to have a 788 config in about 270 pax, with a rather successful marketing campaign aimed at both VFR and tourist to make it work.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 62, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 14146 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 59):

If you do POS LGW red eyes both ways then the 767 will be idle all day at LGW. The crews will still need to rest, and be fully accommodated, but now landing fees soar, due to the additional time on the ground.
If by now LGW isn't working I don't see how it will, because attempting to add SXM and/or TAB will not work as BW lacks access to the UK leisure markets.
Indeed if it wanted to do an LGW KIN might have been a better spot as there is still a large J'can VFR market out of the UK. T&T never sent large numbers of immigrants to the UK, as it did to the USA and North America.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 58):

Number of points.

1. I am aware that BW has adequate 738s during off peak periods, but then there is a problem at peak. Didn't the Omni arrangement not cost them big time? Is this KIN base really worth it, because I don't detect that J/cans have changed their views, and indeed B6 is now quite established.

2. Unless there has been a big upsurge of traffic, surely BW must be seeing some loss of loads and especially yields. B6 is flying heavy and has forced down fares. And some one must be flying Travelspan, both the POS and the GEO. While that isn't a market segment that BW will wish to battle over, last year those people would have flown BW. From what I see TS hasn't cut fares so low that this will spur spontaneous travel. Yes I know this year Carnival/Easter are late and so it has provided an extended "busy", so loads mightn't be too bad, now, but what happens later?

3. B6 can feed passengers from various points thru FLL, as they definitely do to KIN. That gives them an advantage over BW which is O&D.

4. Remember that BW doesn't have the fuel subsidy so will need to generate more revenues as an offset, but B6 is most likely nibbling into that.

5. There is nothing that BW can do about the empty seats on the POS GEO sector, except to maybe reduce other flights. OJ is flying JFK GEO nonstops, given that this has the largest passenger loads, there will be howls of protest, and further screams that BW has a "personal vendetta" against Guyanese. This just at the time when they seem to be more favorably viewed. Using the 738s is fine but they will have to offer 5X off season and at least daily during the peak. Remember that BW isn't only carrying its traditional loads but also those offered by DL. BW has two planes which overnight at GEO. Is that necessary?

[Edited 2014-04-06 18:23:12]

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 63, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14143 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
If you do POS LGW red eyes both ways then the 767 will be idle all day at LGW. The crews will still need to rest, and be fully accommodated, but now landing fees soar, due to the additional time on the ground.
Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 61):
12hrs but in this case with 3w scheduled flights crew are staying over 2-3 days period,

So the cost of keeping a BW B767 12+hours in LGW (plus crew on airport hotel) is far greater than what BW is spending accommodating its crew 2-3 days in London?
Ground time may be cheaper in STN or LTN but doubt UK would allow BW fo operate POS-LON-POS there.



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14135 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 60):
WINAIR discontinue service to Anguilla.

Once again Winair tries to take a larger step than their legs can afford. It was said here before.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 60):
PM Gonsalves Says High Cost of Regional Air Travel Unavoidable

Sorry to tell you Mr. Gonçalves, but more and more local carriers will struggle/collapse due to these unavoidable fees.

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 60):

Surinam Airways to connect Cayenne and Miami

They indeed have low fares to MIA, I paid 240 usd one way... but when are they expanding in Brazil? 


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 65, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14132 times:


No one is going to use any airport other than LHR (now too expensive and restricted) or LGW, so even if the UK authorities allow them its a nonstarter. Reducing the 767 to 4 rotations per week will probably be more costly. I bet that they put the crew in some "cheap" hotel near LGW.

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 64):

WM wanted to do SJU AXA but apparently the US authorities haven't permitted them. At least not yet. Maybe the two US puddle jumpers blocked them, knowing that WM with larger planes will snatch some business.

A Dominican hotelier said that Mr. Gonsalves should resign as the shareholder spokes person for LI, because he doesn't have a vision for the airline. Indeed I don't think that he cares any more as SVD will no longer live or die based on LI
Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 63):
User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 66, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14124 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
I am aware that BW has adequate 738s during off peak periods, but then there is a problem at peak. Didn't the Omni arrangement not cost them big time? Is this KIN base really worth it, because I relay don't detect that J/cans have changed their views, and indeed B6 is now quite established.

The Omni lease for the peak periods were not the problem, it was the continuous leases in both peak and off peak and then rotating a 767 3 times per week from Texas to POS for the LGW route was costly. A significant number of the loses in 2012 was attributed to those leases and the LGW route.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
Unless there has been a big upsurge of traffic, surely BW must be seeing some loss of loads and especially yields. B6 is flying heavy and has forced down fares. And some one must be flying Travelspan, both the POS and the GEO.

As I mentioned, right now is the peak period and we can't determine that.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
3. B6 can feed passengers from various points thru FLL, as they definitely do to KIN. That gives them an advantage over BW which is O&D.

No they are not into POS. B6 flight leave to POS at 7am and comes in at 3 pm, not rally much options. If they were doing this overnight then I would agree, but at the same time they would be taking AA for that market. TO make any connecting market work from out of FLL they would have to have 2 daily flights.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
There is nothing that BW can do about the empty seats on the POS GEO sector, except to maybe reduce other flights. OJ is flying YYZ GEO nonstop, and are around for the moment, though I don't know what their longevity is. If they drop the JFK GEO nonstops, given that this has the largest passenger loads, there will be howls of protest, and further screams that BW has a "personal vendetta" against Guyanese.

Yes they can, and that is why the Minister of Finance has asked them to redo their route evaluation. They are losing money on that sector because it leaves almost empty then to fill the GEO-JFK/YYZ sector. It is unproductive and costly.
The 738 can do the route fine, and now that GEO is being lengthened they should have no problems with weight to YYZ. Either way those 767 are costly to run primarily for the LGW route and should not have been leased in the first place. CAL does not need the 767 on any NA route in its network that the 738 can already perform.

I'm not sure why you are worried about the GEO route with the 737, CAL already flies the 738 to YYZ from GEO, a flight that is always full no problem.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 62):
Using the 738s is fine but they will have to offer 5X off season and at least daily during the peak. Remember that BW isn't only carrying its traditional loads but also those offered by DL. BW has two planes which overnight at GEO. Is that necessary?

Its's actually 1 that overnights there. Well remember CAL has a maintenance agreement so those a/c will get overnight checks at JFK. But sometimes the BW010 which overnights there either returns as the 425 or the 17.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 67, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14055 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 66):

The issue with JFK isn't that BW will have major problem with loads, even if they lose some passengers. Its that they will have less pricing power, and therefore will be less able to charge high fares which they use to subsidize weaker routes, and to offset the loss of the fuel subsidy. B6 will be a formidable competitor.

Two flights over night in GEO. The 524 and the 484. Are both necessary? Maybe you mightn't call one overnite as it arrives at 130 AM and is out at 6AM. The other leaves at 530 AM. Outside of peak periods are they really filling both planes? One connects to BGI/KIN/MIA, and the other is a secondary connection to JFK.

I am not concerned about the 738 as it seems to be doing the YYZ GEO nonstop in both directions, so can definitely handle JFK. They seem to have eliminated the need to make stops on the northbound ANU on the YYZ, and TAB on the JFK last year Sept/Oct when a 738 was used when one of the 767s went for overhaul. That was where my earlier concerns came from.

What I am saying is that BW at this point will have to keep at least the JFK nonstop, which means running the flight onto POS, as the US doesn't allow a GEO turn around. Over 50% of the visitor arrivals into GEO are from the USA, the vast majority from JFK. This is an ideal position for BW as their only competition is a charter, or a lengthy KIN lay over, so they do still have some pricing power. Eliminating the nonstop will be a gift to Travelspan.

I remain curious about their plans for the Jamaican operations. They have lost so much market share that rebuilding will be tough, as people have moved on, and they don't have a base of loyal customers there.


User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3964 posts, RR: 5
Reply 68, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14042 times:

Hom Many Dash 8 remain in LIAT service with now 10 ATRs on strength?

User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 69, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14043 times:

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 68):

I think that they now have 7 ATRs, and so are probably now operating 3-4 dash 8s. I don't think that they gotten rid of any yet.


User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3964 posts, RR: 5
Reply 70, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14026 times:

Thanks. I misread this post...

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 6):

V2-LIG ATR42 msn 1009 has been delivered... It makes the 3rd ATR-42 and 7th ATR aircraft in LI's fleet.

... as 3 ATR42 and 7 ATR72, but at closer inspection it is 3 + 4.


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 71, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13921 times:

Whenever BW decides to drop LGW and needs to move all those passengers who already have tickets, a BW B737-800 might well be ETOPS able to fly POS-YHZ-LGW to move them.
Would it be any demand for a route between Eastern Caribbean and Canadian Maritimes?



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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 72, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 13906 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 71):
Whenever BW decides to drop LGW and needs to move all those passengers who already have tickets, a BW B737-800 might well be ETOPS able to fly POS-YHZ-LGW to move them.

Cheaper to accommodate them on BA at an agreed upon negotiated rated.



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 13832 times:

Just saw this on facebook, thought it was interesting so I thought I would share.

http://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10170772_10152398641480362_7751801374138171558_n.jpg

Not sure if its flymontserrat organizing this, but its good to see them actually doing something....



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 13762 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 73):

I'm still waiting for my SXM-MNI nonstop, Can't accept I'll need to detour in ANU if I really make it!  


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 75, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13560 times:

817Dreamliiner,

I came across you in the 787 production/delivery thread:


https://twitter.com/SonicStar817


Now I see where you get all the juicy and latest aviation information 

A388


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 76, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13537 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 75):
817Dreamliiner,

I came across you in the 787 production/delivery thread:


https://twitter.com/SonicStar817


Now I see where you get all the juicy and latest aviation information 

Lol, yup that's me  Twitter is pretty useful for finding out the latest in anything really, just that my main focus is the aviation side of it. I also make use of flickr for the latest info as well. I follow some photographers who frequently spot at MAN, PAE, XFW and TLS. Sometimes you'll get some interesting exclusive photos. Im waiting for someone to take a photo of the first A320neo, which, from what ive heard, is outside on the flightline at TLS.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 77, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13498 times:

That is great 817Dreamliiner. I can imagine you can get the latest information through twitter. I might join twitter in the future, who knows. I'm looking forward to that A320NEO photo. I've seen a photo of it in the assembly line. KarelXWB is my source here in the forum when it comes down to seeing the latest stuff 

A388

[Edited 2014-04-08 18:22:06]

User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 78, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 13359 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 73):

Just an update to this.

It seems FlyMontserrat are indeed behind this, and this is part of their efforts to promote Montserrat as a tourist destination.

More here if your interested: http://zjb.gov.ms/2014/04/09/fly-mon...t-as-a-viable-tourist-destination/

Quoting A388 (Reply 77):
That is great 817Dreamliiner. I can imagine you can get the latest information through twitter. I might join twitter in the future, who knows. I'm looking forward to that A320NEO photo. I've seen a photo of it in the assembly line. KarelXWB is my source here in the forum when it comes down to seeing the latest stuff 

Indeed, maybe you should join as well   . Im looking forward to that photo as well. Speaking of Karel, he does follow me on twitter, though im not sure if he knows that lol, he started following me when the A350 went to FDF earlier this year.

BTW, A388 you may have noticed I haven't asked you for any photography advice lately. Well the reason for that is because ive kinda given up (for the time being anyway...) have lots of assignments to get done and I have to prepare for exams as well, so I haven't had anytime at all to go spotting. But hopefully as summer rolls in i'll probably get back into it. Though, my summer plans are kinda up in the air at the moment...



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 79, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13308 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 78):
BTW, A388 you may have noticed I haven't asked you for any photography advice lately. Well the reason for that is because ive kinda given up (for the time being anyway...) have lots of assignments to get done and I have to prepare for exams as well, so I haven't had anytime at all to go spotting. But hopefully as summer rolls in i'll probably get back into it. Though, my summer plans are kinda up in the air at the moment...

No problem my friend. I also have little time to go spotting but every once in a while when something interesting shows up you will find me at the airport but as you know, an airport on an island has very little variety and traffic movement so it is relatively quiet here anyways. I hope that will change in the future.

A388


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 13051 times:

Insel to begin flying to GEO.

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/new...-airline-to-begin-operations-here/

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 81, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12986 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 80):

Insel to begin flying to GEO.

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/new...-airline-to-begin-operations-here/

GUYAIR707

Carriers are jumping over themselves to get into GEO 



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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 12474 times:

Would anyone here fly in and out of Islip airport in long island ny to get to the caribbean

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 83, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12214 times:

Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 82):
Would anyone here fly in and out of Islip airport in long island ny to get to the caribbean

Is ISP really planning to have an in-terminal F.I.S.?
One has to take into account the demographics of Suffolk and Nassau counties on Long Island to get an idea which Caribbean destinations and on which season might work out of ISP.
Wild guess: CUN, MBJ, AUA, PUJ... not sure about POP, SXM. And that would sort of be once or twice weekly November to April.
Now, if JFK-SDQ/STI/KIN O/D are doing well, perhaps there's also room for a once-twice weekly year around non-stop on those routes.
Talking about ISP, if ISP really wants to become an option to JFK for NYC (international) travel, it sure needs to do some drastic with its rail link to Brooklyn and Manhattan.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 84, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 12228 times:

Guys, due to a bussy day at work I couldn't post this earlier but two days ago a new cargo airline arrived in Curacao (21 Air). See my photo here:



View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography




The aircaft they use is operated by Dynamic Airways. I've seen this airline mentioned here a few times on passenger flights to/from GEO(?). I didn't know they also have full freighters.

In any case, good luck to them!!!

A388


User currently offlineBW985 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Nov 2007, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12092 times:

Tobago flight makes news in the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ell-British-Barbados-tourists.html

BW985


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 86, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 12037 times:

9N getting new aircraft? This popped up on the internet today.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 87, posted (3 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11924 times:

Lawmakers debate Cayman Airways losses
For the second time in a week, opposition lawmakers on Friday railed against the government’s continuing approval of multimillion-dollar subsidies for quasi-public entities.
On Wednesday, lawmakers reviewed the losses of the Cayman Islands Maritime Authority. The target on Friday was Cayman Airways.
“When I first came here, the Cayman Airways subsidy was $5 million; 14 years later we’re somewhere over $20 million,” said East End MLA Arden McLean.
“We hear rumors of decisions being made by that company that just [don’t] make sense,” the independent MLA said. “The time has come where somebody needs to be held responsible for those anticipated poor decisions.”
http://www.compasscayman.com/caycomp...kers-debate-Cayman-Airways-losses/

First female Surinamese jet captain lands Boeing 737 at CJIA
Speaking to this newspaper at the Executive Lounge at CJIA Captain Deira related her journey as the first Surinamese jet captain: “I started working at Surinam Airways some 27 years ago in administration and I have been flying for 22 of those years, but since I was eight years old I told my teacher I wanted to become a pilot. I have flown from the Twin Otter for about 14 years, thereafter I flew the airbus 340 heavy jet as co-pilot and now I am flying the 737 medium jets as pilot in command. From this I have about two to three years before I can become captain of the heavy jet.”
http://guyanachronicle.com/first-fem...-captain-lands-boeing-737-at-cjia/

Opposition disapproves $6.5B for CJIA expansion
The Opposition on Thursday night disapproved $6.5 billion allocated for the completion of the Cheddi Jagan International Airport (CJIA) Expansion Project. Last year, a similar cut in the funds for the project was made, resulting in delays in construction work.
http://www.guyanatimesgy.com/?p=57952

Howai still not happy with CAL business plan
FOR the second time, Senator Larry Howai, Minister of Finance and the Economy and line minister for Caribbean Airlines (CAL) has rejected the airline’s new Business Plan authored by Interim Chairman Phillip Marshall and a team of consultants. Howai said last week he was still not satisfied with some of the suggested recommendations.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,193179.html

St. Maarten upgrades Princess Juliana International Airport
St. Maarten’s Princess Juliana International Airport (SXM) closed a $132 million bond last year to finance a long list of improvements including rehabilitating the airport’s relatively short 7,150-foot runway, construction of a new fuel farm that can store 15 days of jet fuel, the building of new taxiways to increase runway efficiency, expanding aprons to provide more aircraft parking, and acquisition of land so the airport can expand later on if necessary.
http://baltimorepostexaminer.com/st-...a-international-airport/2014/04/16



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User currently offlinevfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 3964 posts, RR: 5
Reply 88, posted (3 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 11883 times:

Have any more news surfaced about why BVI Airways was purchased by the unnamed New York-based "investment bank"? I am still at a loss why an investment bank would buy the tiniest of airlines in the Caribbean...

User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 89, posted (3 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 11841 times:

He's not a usual contributor, but i've just found out that SA7700 (the original poster of this thread, part 109) has passed away.

My condolences to his family.

RIP SA7700

Our Thoughts For Hercules (SA7700) (by wilco737 Apr 15 2014 in Non Aviation)



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 90, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11455 times:

Rumors are that BW canceled or severely delayed flights to GEO MIA JFK and YYZ to fly jets to TAB. Trinis delayed. Guyanese left stranded. Ground crews frustrated because they couldn't tell the passengers the truth.


Smells like Kamla is fishing for Tobago votes.


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 11354 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 90):

No wonder why CM flights bound to PTY- beyond promo fares are gone already!

I believe soon B6 will be knocking on GEO 's doors.


User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11321 times:

Just from their Facebook page:

Tropic Air getting different wings!



Source: https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/1535713_10152360608999592_3952108271468761974_n.jpg

[Edited 2014-04-20 07:07:09]

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 93, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11272 times:

Thanks for the link 817Dreamliiner, I didn't know SA7700 passed away. This indeed is very sad news.

A388    


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 11157 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 91):

Published today in Guyana Times:

http://www.guyanatimesgy.com/?p=59006

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 95, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11118 times:

I suspect that Travelspan is having more impact on fares than COPA. Travelspan will have 4x 767 nonstops to JFK this summer, not far below what DL offered.

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 11109 times:

9Ns new aircraft.... Can BZE GCM be on their radar. Would be doable with this



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 97, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11050 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 90):
Rumors are that BW canceled or severely delayed flights to GEO MIA JFK and TAB. Trinis delayed. Guyanese left stranded. Ground crews frustrated because they couldn't tell the passengers the truth.

If true, this is very very disappointing. These people can't seem to keep their hands off the airline.



In other news, CAPA has once again produced another great read (albeit some errors in chronology of events) on the situation at BW. They get the main point across! BW needs to shape up, get an executive team installed and forget long-haul flying for a good while.

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...-flag-carrier-of-the-region-163919

[Edited 2014-04-20 22:52:11]


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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 98, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11001 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 97):

On BWs facebook there are Guyanese pleading to find out what happened to the 606 GEO YYZ which was canceled. Then the 484 and 524 arrived from GEO, but yet Trinis are wailing that the onward flights left POS hours late, which meant Guyanese stranded at POS. Trinis as well.


Then rumors surface about flights to TAB. I can't believe that BW would do that on its own because they would have to accommodate the 606/607 passengers and feed the 484 and the 524, and the various massively delayed flights to GEO.

So it must be orders from on high. People demanding to get to TAB and Kamla telling them to switch the jets to TAB. Poor ground crews have to deal with irate Guyanese and Trinis all over the system, knowing that they cant tell them "your flight is 6 hours late because they sent it to TAB". So nuff steupsing and sour face instead.


The private sector has done an even worse job than gov'ts have done. I cant think of one successful carrier owned by Caribbean based private sector interests. Even Insel Air is now in trouble. So I don't know about CAPA's recommendation that BW should be privatized. It needs proper management and a gov't which wikl allow them to do their jobs.

And like LI, BW needs to define its mission. If it flies routes for developmental purposes then it ought to get revenue guarantees, or the flight should be axed.


User currently offlinetxkf2010 From Bermuda, joined Nov 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 99, posted (3 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 10952 times:

Quoting vfw614 (Reply 88):
I am still at a loss why an investment bank would buy the tiniest of airlines in the Caribbean...

To hide money from Uncle Sam



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10844 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 96):

Not only GCM, I bet KIN or MBJ are under their radar as well!  


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 101, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10808 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 98):
The private sector has done an even worse job than gov'ts have done. I cant think of one successful carrier owned by Caribbean based private sector interests. Even Insel Air is now in trouble. So I don't know about CAPA's recommendation that BW should be privatized. It needs proper management and a gov't which wikl allow them to do their jobs.

The Trini government won't lose anything sending a delegation to CM headquarters to ask that airline if there's any interest to manage BW in exchange for a majority % of the airline.
BW fleet matches perfectly CM and CM could find handy to get to use BW's M.R.O. at POS.

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 94):
Published today in Guyana Times:

Guyana media has blown-up CM GEO entrance as a twice weekly E90 service and a long detour via PTY, would really mean something to GEO main O/D rooute, GEO-NYC.
It's like a GEO link with destinations other than NYC via PTY hub is negligible.
But who knows, if CM is badly needing to fill its NYC flights, adding extra frequencies to PTY-GEO would sure help.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 102, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10771 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 101):

Those JGFK GEO CM fares are way over what every one else is charging. Unless BW is full I don't see why anyone will take the long detour at those prices, unless they plan to shop in PTY.

Remember there is FlyJ and Travelspan on the route, plus BW plans more seats this summer. And that is despite B6 JFK POS.

Some one with a one track brain (JFK) is wrote that article. CM is carrying people to other destinations, aside from JFK. About 40% of US resident Guyanese live outside of the NY area.


User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 103, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10618 times:

9Ns King Air…..will be put on BZE-CUN/RTB



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User currently offlineAA1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3429 posts, RR: 4
Reply 104, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10472 times:

I just noticed on Wikipedia (not the best source- I know) that Venezolana and Conviasa fly to Maturin. Are those new routes?

How often do they fly to POS?

Also- LIAT's new CEO is in the newspapers in T&T today- seems he's ready to hit the ground running!

AA1818



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10380 times:

Quoting AA1818 (Reply 104):
Also- LIAT's new CEO is in the newspapers in T&T today- seems he's ready to hit the ground running!

I'm anxious to see him in action! want to see LI strong and expanding to South America!  


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 106, posted (3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10245 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 105):
.

His problem will be keeping LI alive after SVD gets its airport next year, and so no longer needs them. Then only DOM will have a crying need for LI. BW will replace them in the southern islands, and WM in the north, if LI collapses, so the numbers of people who will advocate for their survival is dwindling.


So no expansion into South America.  

[Edited 2014-04-24 10:14:38]

User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 107, posted (3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 10239 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 106):
The only expansion into South America LIAT is done. To OGL.

His problem will be keeping LI alive after SVD gets its airport next year, and so no longer needs them. Then only DOM will have a crying need for LI. BW will replace them in the southern islands, and WM in the north, if LI collapses, so the numbers of people who will advocate for their survival is dwindling.

I don't see LIAT disappearing to be honest. If things are really that bad they will start with downsizing. No airline is shutting down entirely before downsizing first. In my view LIAT is also a well-known brand in the region they operate in so I find it hard to that region without LIAT. I just don't see them disappearing. This is just my opinion.

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 108, posted (3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10227 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 107):

They can "disappear" like BWIA did. A newer leaner replacement with no unions and only select routes. And with BW playing an expanded role, rather than the two battling each other out of POS.

The only gov't with deep pockets now is T&T, and even they aren't in a position to sink money into LI.

LIATs biggest advocate is the PM of SVD, because LI is his only carrier. From next year he hopes to get BA, B6, and AA, and so will only have to worry about getting people to BGI, SLU,GND, and POS. BW and SVG Air are able and willing to fill that gap. And indeed after blocking BW from flying to SVD, to protect LI, he now has no objection to it. Hedging his bets no doubt, just in case the majors arent interested in SVD, so has to beg BW to do JFK, and YYZ, as they do for GND. He has abig bill to pay.


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 109, posted (3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 10206 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 108):
They can "disappear" like BWIA did. A newer leaner replacement with no unions and only select routes. And with BW playing an expanded role, rather than the two battling each other out of POS.

Okay that is a different meaning of the term disappearing. Let's see what will happen. I'm still anxiously awaiting the decision at LIAT regarding potential route cuts and Caribbean Airlines and their 767 fleet.

A388


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 110, posted (3 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 9785 times:

N87303, a United Express E175 with "new style" winglets passed thru ANU today on its way to FLL.

http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/ai...-embraer-rolls-uniteds-first-e175/



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 111, posted (3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9721 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 110):
N87303, a United Express E175 with "new style" winglets passed thru ANU today on its way to FLL.

No pics?



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User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 112, posted (3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9697 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 111):
No pics?

That was a fail on my part. Was driving when I saw it on the runway. I did pull over though, but didn't think to take pics.   



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 113, posted (3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 112):
That was a fail on my part. Was driving when I saw it on the runway. I did pull over though, but didn't think to take pics.   

No worries  



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User currently offlineInbound From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2001, 851 posts, RR: 2
Reply 114, posted (3 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9657 times:

UA has been using the 738s with the split Scimitar winglets IAH-POS for a few weeks now.
Sorry though, no pics either  



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 115, posted (3 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9623 times:

Last sunday Copa Airlines used their 738 with the split scimitar winglets to Curacao. Registration was HP-1836CMP. I took pictures of it but the weather wasn't ideal.

A388


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 116, posted (3 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9555 times:

Had a flight test course yesterday where we were flight testing a Jetstream 31 owned by Cranfield University. The aircraft was G-NFLA (which interestingly enough, there are photos of it in the database):


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Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Adrian Court



Did two flights out of LPL, doing Drag and Aircraft performance and also longitudinal static and manoeuvre stability calculations. I took some videos if any of you are interested:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hAAdUk1DhA landing after first flight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t5OxQ6zEPc takeoff for the second flight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hfM1ScQlRM flight manoeuvres ( this one should be of most interest as this has detailed commentary on whats happening. During this part it was expected that a few people would get air sick but that didn't happen, though it did happen for other groups.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KawKSfic7cQ landing after second flight

Enjoy  



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 9345 times:

Insel announces special fares from GEO:

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/20...insel-air-announces-special-fares/

Travelspan adds 763 to GEO-JFK route:

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/new...velspan-adds-another-767-gt-route/

GUYAIR707


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 118, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9285 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 116):
Had a flight test course yesterday where we were flight testing a Jetstream 31 owned by Cranfield University. The aircraft was G-NFLA (which interestingly enough, there are photos of it in the database):

That is great my friend. What type of study do you actually do?


Cheers,

A388


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 119, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 9273 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 118):
What type of study do you actually do?

Aeronautical Engineering.



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 120, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9225 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 115):
Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 117):
Travelspan adds 763 to GEO-JFK route:

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/new...oute/

One interesting point to note is that this B763 has an identical interior to BW's B763s as it's also an ex LA bird.



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9155 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 120):

Flew up yesterday on BW526 (GEO-JFK). The interior (LHR) is a bit tired now, but workable. Service was good although they got my food order wrong. BW seems to be trying to improve inflight service.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 101):

Yeah I agree with you, few pax would use CM to JFK unless there was no seats anywhere, or it was super cheap. Maybe a few folks will take advantage of the free stay in PTY. Most will be O/D and maybe to Central American destinations, and some in South America.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 122, posted (2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9022 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 121):

With Travelspan running 5X this summer I don't think that there will be a shortage of seats to JFK. FlyJ has also received an additional plane so they should also be adding capacity on the JFK GEO.

CM will be used by people traveling from other parts of the USA. Those "forgotten" Guyanese who live in places like BOS, LAX, DC, and ORD. They can finally use one carrier for their entire trip.


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 123, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8882 times:

Stumbled across this a while ago. Some rare photos of aircraft at ANU:

http://www.facebook.com/SelectahJuni...3514774620.139783.510999620&type=3



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 124, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8611 times:

Guys,

Boeing will be doing test flights from Curacao in the coming six days. A 787-9 (ZB197) will be used and ETA in Curacao is expected between 20:00 and 20:45LT tonight.

A388


User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 125, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8581 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 124):
Boeing will be doing test flights from Curacao in the coming six days. A 787-9 (ZB197) will be used and ETA in Curacao is expected between 20:00 and 20:45LT tonight.

Its on the way, ETA 20 40 your time.

http://fr24.com/BOE197



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 126, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8464 times:

And here it is, photo by A388:




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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 127, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8436 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 121):
Most will be O/D and maybe to Central American destinations, and some in South America.

Or US West coast. LAS, LAX etc are all viable options from GEO via PTY.



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User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 128, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8405 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 126):
And here it is, photo by A388:

Hey 817Dreamliiner, thanks for posting my photo here  


A388


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 8290 times:

Copa advertising from US $150 GEO-PTY. Check page 17.

http://issuu.com/gxmedia/docs/may072014?e=4702837/7759691

GUYAIR707


User currently onlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9731 posts, RR: 11
Reply 130, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8211 times:

My latest photo of the 787-9 in Curacao:


https://twitter.com/RCAviation39/status/464393995507228673/photo/1


Cheers,

A388


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 131, posted (2 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

http://www.anpanama.com/2405-Panama-...os.note.aspx#.U3FJdbEUjOM.facebook from ANPnews panama website.
Panama and Barbados to sign aviation bilateral.
1st step towards CM PTY-BGI someday.



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 132, posted (2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7458 times:

Anyone knows why BW526 is cancelled for today May 14 GEO-JFK?

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 133, posted (2 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

An ironic title to the thread due to the terminal fire today at MBJ

User currently offlineturk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 134, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 7186 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 131):
http://www.anpanama.com/2405-Panama-...os.note.aspx#.U3FJdbEUjOM.facebook from ANPnews panama website.Panama and Barbados to sign aviation bilateral.1st step towards CM PTY-BGI someday.

I don't understand any of this!

From what the press has reported since 2006, "service between Barbados and Panamá is on the VERGE of happening..."

I'll believe it when my read end is sitting on a Copa plane landing at Grantley Adams.

Bare joke!


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 135, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6725 times:

Caribbean Airlines appoints new CEO & CFO

Mr. Michael DiLollo is appointed as the Chief Executive Officer of Caribbean Airlines.

Mr. DiLollo has considerable and diverse experience in the aviation industry. During his 20-year stint at Air Transat he held a series of progressively senior executive positions including Director of Flight Safety and Captain A330, Vice-President, Engineering and Maintenance, Senior Vice-President of Technical Operations and Customer Service, Executive Vice President of TTC, Transat AT Inc., and President of Transat Tours Canada, Transat's largest revenue centre (CDN$2 billion).

He served as an Airbus A330 Captain and has flown B727, L1011, B757, a licensed Maintenance Engineer (M1, M2), and has served as: Technical Training Director, Flight Safety Director, Flight Engineer, Training Pilot, and VP of Aircraft. His pioneering work in Safety Management Systems has been recognised and implemented in a number of jurisdictions.

CAL also welcomes as our new Chief Financial Officer, Mr. Tyron Tang, whose reputation for hard work, integrity and a motivator of people is known to all who have worked closely with him in this career.

Wishing the new appointees all the best in there endeavors.



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 136, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6590 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 135):

Probably the best news coming out of CAL in a very long time. The appointment is one thing; however, it's left to be seen if the GORTT will give him the necessary resources and breathing space to achieve strategic objectives. I assume they will considering Mr. Howai (a very credible individual), has stated that he is willing to pump money into CAL once they produce a viable plan moving forward.

Very good news, but still a wait and see situation.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 137, posted (2 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6558 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 136):

Could not have said it better; it is the best news from CAL since the change in board in 2010 and Mr DiLollo has a lot of successful experience in executive position. Hopefully once the company finalizes its new business strategy next month as the timeline given, the government can inject cash into the airline and encumber some of its assets for liquidity.

Hopefully we will be hearing from him soon on what direction he intends to take the airline.



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User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 138, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6400 times:

Been a minute since I've been on here! Hey guys!

CAL has a new CEO?! And he's competent?! He's from Air Transat?! *clap..clap...clap*

Wait...will Kamla and her constituents give him and the CFO room to maneuver? I wonder if Mr. DiLollo made it clear to them before he accepted the position.



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User currently offlineb757lvr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6362 times:

There's news of Jetblue adding a Saturday only flight fron BOS to UVF staring November 1st. This would be the very first nonstop scheduled flight between these two city pairs!! It's always great to hear about additional airlift to the region and a good opportunity to look at this untested market.

http://worldairlinenews.com/2014/05/...liberia-puerto-plata-and-st-lucia/


User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6355 times:

Perhaps with a new CEO CAL can look at resuming service from BGI to MIA/FLL, JFK, YYZ and even LGW.

User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 599 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6182 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 140):

Very unlikely IMHO, I guess they'll stick to the "milk cow" first and after making some $$$ then they may take the risk.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 142, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 140):

The only possible route ex BGI is JFK. And that depends on if any carrier fills the AA gap. MIA is too dominated by AA. When JM flew FLL BGI they failed. I don't think that BW will take the chance.

It will be interesting to see what they do to the KIN base. After loud announcements of expanded service out of KIN to FLL and JFK, they have quietly withdrawn this additional capacity, even though there is more traffic in the VFR markets in the May/Jun season that there was in the Jan/Feb period when this expansion was introduced. Jan/Feb is as tough a period in the VFR markets as the Sept/Oct period is in all Caribbean travel markets.


Also with the loud chatter about the LGW route they will have to make it work or stop it (and with that the 767 fleet). B6 seems to be doing well against BW on all of its routes from JFK and FLL where they compete.

[Edited 2014-05-20 19:31:10]

User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1424 posts, RR: 1
Reply 143, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6081 times:

Quoting b757lvr (Reply 139):
There's news of Jetblue adding a Saturday only flight fron BOS to UVF staring November 1st. This would be the very first nonstop scheduled flight between these two city pairs!! It's always great to hear about additional airlift to the region and a good opportunity to look at this untested market.

B6 slowly but surely continues to entrench themselves in the Caribbean; however, the supreme presence is still arguably held by AA. I'll certainly like to hear of the results on this BOS-UVF route.

Quoting windian425 (Reply 140):
Perhaps with a new CEO CAL can look at resuming service from BGI to MIA/FLL, JFK, YYZ and even LGW.

I almost certain we won't be seeing any sort of international expansion out of BGI for BW given the carrier's current condition, as well as the market's current condition.

Quoting westindian425 (Reply 138):
Wait...will Kamla and her constituents give him and the CFO room to maneuver? I wonder if Mr. DiLollo made it clear to them before he accepted the position.

I would like to think that the GORTT will give the necessary breathing space. As for all out being the apple of the state's eye as it was in the previous administration (they got anything they wanted with the condition of profitability), I highly doubt it. However, the present GORTT was majorly embarrassed by the shenanigans that played out of BW in 2010-2013. The current line minister was given BW in its sorry state after which he wasted no time in ridding the airline of the board and installing a fairly competent replacement.

In my humble opinion, this board has conducted its affairs reasonably well. Within the 9 months they've been at the helm, they were successful in taking the negative spotlight off the carrier, mandated and successfully attained greater revenue and increased efficiency through a very very diluted management team (with the operational baggage eg. LGW and 767 fleet), kept a very tight lid on rumours concerning CEO selection and has managed to attract a competent individual to lead the airline forward.

We also have to remember, the Nicholas/Moonan band of clowns, through their massive mismanagement tried to blame the KIN operation for all its misfortunes, when in fact, we knew all along that KIN was not the issue. This present board recognized this immediately and this was a signal of their genuine interest in getting the carrier back on its feet again.

Another signal of their good intent was the immediate removal of wannabe CEO and former 4 month CFO Shiva Ramnarine. This guy was the "chosen one" under the Moonan board, allowed to do anything he pleased. If his objectives went through, BW today would be stuck with an additional 767 that possessed a totally different and inferior on-board product to the present two 767s, the removal of 2-3 738s from the fleet, paying for meals on-board and a gradual withdrawal from KIN. BW dodged that serious bullet with the timely installation of the present board.

Now, we can only wait and see if this new CEO is up to the task. At his first media conference, he spoke of "internal threats" that need to be taken care of before they can really effectively compete with competitors. Sounds very promising, however, anyone care to guess what some of these "internal threats" might be?

I apologize if the post seemed a bit long-winded.



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User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 144, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 140):
Perhaps with a new CEO CAL can look at resuming service from BGI to MIA/FLL, JFK, YYZ and even LGW.
Quoting BW424 (Reply 143):
I almost certain we won't be seeing any sort of international expansion out of BGI for BW given the carrier's current condition, as well as the market's current condition.

The only routes I know they are seriously looking at are the BGI-JFK(due to scale and BGI offering incentives), and the POS-SVG route. Nothing else is being seriously looked into.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 143):

Hit the nail on the head, the last 4 years of the nonsense that played out at CAL was a total embarrassment to the Government, and now Howai is trying to bring some semblance of proper governance into the airline again by firing the incompetents that lead the airline. Moonan and Nicolas were failure of epic proportions and I would like to know where the US$170m left by the last full CEO and Lok Jack went.

When the final route analysis is done, we will see what will be kept and what will be added to the network. At present all YYZ flights out of GEO are being run by the 738, and rumor is that the 738 are carded to take over the GEO-JFK routes some time later on.



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 145, posted (2 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5949 times:

Quoting caribbean484 (Reply 144):

If your rumors are correct about the 738s on the GEO JFK then LGW is over, because they cant keep the 767s for just one route.

I assume that they will wet lease to cover the 500/501 during peak periods, because they don't have enough 738 planes to do this. That is unless B6 has made such serious inroads as to reduce BWs need for capacity.

I remain skeptical of the KIN base. The Jamaicans report that their FLL operations are doing poorly, and clearly so are the YYZ, as they don't increase capacity during peak summer months.


User currently offlinewindian425 From Barbados, joined Dec 2006, 166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5930 times:

Is CAL really doing a nonstop GEO-YYZ flight with the B738 reliably?? These flights must be seriously weight restricted.

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2575 posts, RR: 1
Reply 147, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5883 times:

Quoting windian425 (Reply 146):
Is CAL really doing a nonstop GEO-YYZ flight with the B738 reliably?? These flights must be seriously weight restricted.

For the record compare with another long route flown with B737-800 by CM:

EZE (34°49'20"S 58°32'09"W) PTY (9°04'17"N 79°23'00"W) 331.7° (NW) 3313 mi
GEO (6°29'55"N 58°15'15"W) YYZ (43°40'38"N 79°37'50"W) 336.5° (NW) 2870 mi

(from www.gcmap.com)

Issues with GEO-YYZ might not be which aircraft type used but GEO runway length or GEO high temperature when taking off to YYZ or possible YYZ air-traffic congestion (nothing compared to EZE or PTY).



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User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 148, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 147):

They are doing GEO YYZ nonstop with 738s. Dont know if there are any baggage issues, or whether they can use all 154 seats. Some time ago they stopping off in ANU enroute to YYZ, but apparently they dont need to do this any more. GEO has 7,150 feet. Temperatures should be similar to PTY. I assume that Argentines returning from a PTY trip will travel as heavy as Guyanese flying out of YYZ, i.e. every passenger using their 50lbs X2 , even infants.


User currently offlinewestindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 149, posted (2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 5755 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 143):
I would like to think that the GORTT will give the necessary breathing space. As for all out being the apple of the state's eye as it was in the previous administration (they got anything they wanted with the condition of profitability), I highly doubt it. However, the present GORTT was majorly embarrassed by the shenanigans that played out of BW in 2010-2013. The current line minister was given BW in its sorry state after which he wasted no time in ridding the airline of the board and installing a fairly competent replacement.

In my humble opinion, this board has conducted its affairs reasonably well. Within the 9 months they've been at the helm, they were successful in taking the negative spotlight off the carrier, mandated and successfully attained greater revenue and increased efficiency through a very very diluted management team (with the operational baggage eg. LGW and 767 fleet), kept a very tight lid on rumours concerning CEO selection and has managed to attract a competent individual to lead the airline forward.

We also have to remember, the Nicholas/Moonan band of clowns, through their massive mismanagement tried to blame the KIN operation for all its misfortunes, when in fact, we knew all along that KIN was not the issue. This present board recognized this immediately and this was a signal of their genuine interest in getting the carrier back on its feet again.

Another signal of their good intent was the immediate removal of wannabe CEO and former 4 month CFO Shiva Ramnarine. This guy was the "chosen one" under the Moonan board, allowed to do anything he pleased. If his objectives went through, BW today would be stuck with an additional 767 that possessed a totally different and inferior on-board product to the present two 767s, the removal of 2-3 738s from the fleet, paying for meals on-board and a gradual withdrawal from KIN. BW dodged that serious bullet with the timely installation of the present board.

Now, we can only wait and see if this new CEO is up to the task. At his first media conference, he spoke of "internal threats" that need to be taken care of before they can really effectively compete with competitors. Sounds very promising, however, anyone care to guess what some of these "internal threats" might be?

I apologize if the post seemed a bit long-winded.

Not long-winded at all. Your post was spot on.

Are you guys hearing anything from CAL staff members as to what they think of the new selection?



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 150, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 5428 times:

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/opi...s/05/23/lousy-service-cal-timehri/


This is why so many Guyanese hate CAL. Flight delayed due to mechanical issues, and yet passengers had to stay at airport for almost TWENTY FOUR hours, because apparently Guyanese hotels don't honor CAL vouchers. Of course their ground service is abysmal, because it is left in the hands of subcontractors, and no one can ever find a CAL official.


If that is the treatment that you are going to get, might as well use Fly Jam and save US$ 150. Hopefully ground service is better at POS or else B6 and WestJet will eat BW for dinner!

The time to know how well a company functions, and how much it respects its customers is when things go wrong. Mechanical issues develop, and no one wants to fly an impaired plane. What people want is to be told the reason for the delay, when it will be resolved, and have appropriate remedies to be made until the matter is resolved. This including meals and accommodation when the problem isn't weather or traffic controller related.


User currently onlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 842 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 5421 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 143):
B6 slowly but surely continues to entrench themselves in the Caribbean; however, the supreme presence is still arguably held by AA. I'll certainly like to hear of the results on this BOS-UVF route.

B6 has done good on JFK-UVF and they must have seen a lot of BOS connections going through and decided to give it a shot. They also have added Saturday only BOS-POP as well starting 11/1.


Have there been any new rumors on JFK or even a weekly BOS-ANU with B6?


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 152, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5422 times:

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 151):

These airlines don't go into small markets without guarantees. Apparently ANU decided to give AA the guarantee instead of B6 on the JFK ANU. I guess because AA has been around that island for a long time, plus a mistaken idea that B6 wouldn't bring the high end market which ANU targets.

So I don't think that there will be a BOS ANU route to soon, because that is a very seasonal market, unlike JFK and MIA which are sustainable year round.


There is a huge Dominican population living in and around BOS. In fact a Dominican is even running to be mayor of Providence RI.


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (2 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5302 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 150):

I don't know why CAL dropped the ball with that flight, but my wife and son were on BW 526 last Wednesday and the flight was cancelled due to mechanical failure. The a/c was in POS. They were given a $300 voucher each and they were put up at Princess Hotel with all meals covered and transportation to and from GEO. They left on the repaired a/c on Thursday less than 24 hours later. I understand that everything was smooth and they were well informed.

They were treated quite well on the flight and arrived safely.

Another CAL flight was delayed because of a cocaine find in the belly of the a/c.

http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/20...inds-drugs-secreted-in-cals-plane/

GUYAIR707

[Edited 2014-05-24 08:17:58]

[Edited 2014-05-24 08:21:00]

User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 154, posted (2 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 5290 times:

http://www.stabroeknews.com/2014/media/photos/05/24/touchdown-2/

Liat lands with ATR at OGL for first time.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 784 posts, RR: 1
Reply 155, posted (2 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 5232 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 154):

First "ATR 72" flight actually. The -42 has been a few times already.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently onlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 842 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 152):
So I don't think that there will be a BOS ANU route to soon, because that is a very seasonal market,

I meant seasonal as well for BOS-ANU! Just November-April if it were to happen (a la BOS-UVF/POP/LIR SXM + PLS get a few extra weeks and frequencies) and JFK would definitely come first.


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1332 posts, RR: 1
Reply 157, posted (2 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 5167 times:

Quoting adamh8297 (Reply 156):

The issue is that the other destination which have seasonal BOS service, also have year round J