Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2903 posts, RR: 21 Posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1713 times:
I just watched on BR Alpha (a german TV station) a repetition of a 25 years old news program, "Tagesschau" of 11Oct 1976. Helmut Schmidt (german "prime minister") travelled to London. The aircraft he took was a Luftwaffe (German Air Force) aircraft with the registration 11+02.
Can anybody help me waht type of aircraft that was?
GDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13385 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
Was it a small jetliner, with an odd configuration of engines mounted on top of the wing?
If so, it was a VFW-614, an early regional jet that was a joint project between the German and Dutch aerospace industries.
They entered service in the mid 1970's, but few were built. It was hopelessly uneconomic to operate and expensive to buy and maintain.
The engines were the Anglo-Frence M45, a version of an original engine designed for the late 1960's AVFG, (Anglo French Variable Geometry), a combat aircraft rather similar to the later Tornado. The AVFG was cancelled at an early design stage in 1967.
The Luftwaffe brought 3 VFW-614s, and used them until a few years ago.
Alternatively, if it was a large executive jet with 4 rear-mounted engines, maybe one of the Lockheed Jetstars that I believe were operated by the Luftwaffe at that time.
This is off the top of my head, is there a picture of this aircraft in the photo section?
Aviator100 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2000, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1637 times:
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The first German 1102 was a Lockheed L-1329 Jetstar 8 c/n 5121. After it was sold to Egypt as SU-DAG, there was a second 1102: Tupolev Tu-154M c/n 89A-813, that was destroyed 13 sept. 1997 in a mid-air collision with a USAF C-141 Starlifter over the South Atlantic.
Ndebele From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 2903 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1623 times:
Yes, probably it was a JetStar - I know what a 707 looks like, and I've seen several VFWs, but I'm too young to know what a Jetstar looks like, we don't have these aircraft very often here in Europe any more.