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Madrid-Barajas Renamed  
User currently onlineSCQ83 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 941 posts, RR: 0
Posted (6 months 15 hours ago) and read 15154 times:

The new name is already displayed in AENA's website. The largest Spanish airport is now officially called "Adolfo Suárez Madrid-Barajas Airport"

http://www.aena-aeropuertos.es/csee/...lite/Aeropuerto-Madrid-Barajas/es/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Su%C3%A1rez

Adolfo Suárez González, 1st Duke of Suárez, Grandee of Spain, KOGF (Spanish pronunciation: [aˈðolfo ˈswaɾeθ]; 25 September 1932 – 23 March 2014) was a Spanish lawyer and politician. Suárez was Spain's first democratically elected prime minister after the dictatorship of Francisco Franco, and the key figure in the country's transition to democracy.

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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19724 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 14800 times:

I've always had a distaste for the eponymous naming of airports and their terminals. Even JFK. I think that airports should be named descriptively. I like "Phoenix Sky Harbor" and "San Francisco International." Or named by location. MAD is named Barajas because it's in Barajas. Tokyo Narita is in Narita.

In the end, though, it's just a name. MAD remains MAD and this will make no difference to anyone working at or traveling to/from/through MAD.


User currently offlinevs11 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 14729 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
In the end, though, it's just a name. MAD remains MAD and this will make no difference to anyone working at or traveling to/from/through MAD.

It is not about the airport though but about the person that is commemorated.


User currently offlinesk736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 14669 times:
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Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
I've always had a distaste for the eponymous naming of airports and their terminals.

I agree, personally I find it ridiculous for airports to be named after people. I sincerely hope the rumoured plans to name LHR after Winston Churchill never see the light of day.


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (6 months 9 hours ago) and read 13661 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 1):
Quoting sk736 (Reply 3):

Yes, and yes!

I gag a little every time I see the name "George Bush Houston Intercontinental Airport", which is often. Most people in Houston simply refer to it as IAH or "Intercontinental", although "Bush" is used by the media.

Interestingly, HOU wasn't called "William P. Hobby" until 1967...and the name "Hobby" has never bothered me. Way, way back when, in the late 1930s, it was briefly called "Howard R. Hughes Airport", how's that for cool? That moniker didn't last very long, however, and the airport became known as Houston Municipal and later International, until it became Hobby.

And worse eponyms -- Vienna's "Mozart" and Rome's "Da Vinci" Airports -- blecch!

I prefer place-names for airports, such as Schiphol, Narita, Gatwick, Heathrow, SFO, DFW, LAX, etc. (and the very charming but lost Idlewild and Orchard).

Madrid will remain Barajas to me, just as Rome is Fiumicino.

Of course, all of this is just caviling, and of no real consequence.

 


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19724 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (6 months 9 hours ago) and read 13541 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 4):

And worse eponyms -- Vienna's "Mozart" and Rome's "Da Vinci" Airports -- blecch!

In the US, stadiums and ballparks used to be named after players, managers, coaches, or teams. Tiger Stadium. Candlestick Park. The Superdome.

Now they're all corporate named. AT&T Park. Ford Field. Comerica Park.

So we should count our blessings, I guess. At least they didn't name it "Santander Madrid Barajas" airport or something.


User currently offlinecoolian2 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 months 9 hours ago) and read 13516 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
In the US, stadiums and ballparks used to be named after players, managers, coaches, or teams. Tiger Stadium. Candlestick Park. The Superdome.

Now they're all corporate named. AT&T Park. Ford Field. Comerica Park.

So we should count our blessings, I guess. At least they didn't name it "Santander Madrid Barajas" airport or something.

It is what it is (I hate that phrase). As a bit of a total stadium nerd I'd love to continue the conversation but something makes me think I'd get in trouble.

And I'd doubt Santander have the money......


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8380 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13465 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
So we should count our blessings, I guess. At least they didn't name it "Santander Madrid Barajas" airport or something.

  
i don't really have a problem with naming airports after prominent figures, but naming them after corporations would be terrible.

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 6):
And I'd doubt Santander have the money......

If they lack money they don't show it. They're expanding in the U.S. like crazy, and they sure seem to have money to continue to sponsor the Ferrari F1 team, and some of the biggest soccer competitions in Latin America.


User currently offlinesmokeybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2014, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13461 times:

Baltimore-Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport hasn't exactly caught on either.

User currently offlinecoolian2 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2006, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13446 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 7):
If they lack money they don't show it. They're expanding in the U.S. like crazy, and they sure seem to have money to continue to sponsor the Ferrari F1 team, and some of the biggest soccer competitions in Latin America.

Can you please not ruin my completely uninformed sarcastic comment with silly things like facts? Thanks!


User currently offlinee38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13300 times:

For me, DCA will always be simply "Washington National Airport."

I never intend to refer to it as Reagan National Airport.

e38


User currently offlinemacsog6 From Singapore, joined Jan 2010, 533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13275 times:
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Quoting e38 (Reply 10):
For me, DCA will always be simply "Washington National Airport."

What happened to "District of Columbia Airport"?

Amazes me that we change names like socks, yet the identifier stays the same - i.e. ORD, SGN, MCO and so forth.



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User currently offlinerealsim From Spain, joined Apr 2010, 645 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (6 months 8 hours ago) and read 13208 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
So we should count our blessings, I guess. At least they didn't name it "Santander Madrid Barajas" airport or something.

Santander Airport (SDR), in the north of Spain and where the Santander bank was born, would have a problem with that. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santander_Airport

However, there's already a precedent in Madrid, Metro Line 2 was renamed as "L2 Vodafone" because of its red color, as well as the important local station "Sol", where 3 metro lines stop, now officially as "Sol Vodafone". Now, everytime a connecton with an L2 station or the Sol station are announced, the Vodafone tag is also always said.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_2_%28Madrid_Metro%29


User currently offlineFlyingSicilian From Italy, joined Mar 2009, 1332 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12967 times:

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 4):
I gag a little every time I see the name "George Bush Houston Intercontinental Airport", which is often. Most people in Houston simply refer to it as IAH or "Intercontinental", although "Bush" is used by the media.

Well George H. W Bush (whom it is named after not GWB) was a pilot, local resident (still lives in Houston 8 months of the year) and as a member of congress from Houston helped get funds for the new airport so it is not completely out of place as at least he was a pilot and promoted the field.

Plenty of people call it Bush or "The big airport" BTW

I do like terms like Intercontinental or Sunport!

THough I am not sure how much "World" there is at Will Rogers World Airport  



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User currently offlineReffado From Brazil, joined Feb 2012, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12712 times:

To be honest, after reading this thread I've been thinking and I couldn't think of a single - no, not even one - airport in Brazil that isn't named after someone. While I am not bothered by this, I do like 'normal' names. And let's face it, "Intercontinental" sounds way cooler than any name ever would, on an airport. :P

User currently offlineLFutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12648 times:

Don't forget most Indian airports are named after famous people.

Leo/ORD



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User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12627 times:

DCA was renamed for former President Ronald Reagan, who, as I understand it, hated Washington DC. (He would retreat to Camp David or California as often as he could.) Aside from that, I always found it ironic for an airport to be named after a President who fired many Air Traffic Controllers.

Detroit Metro Airport has always been my favorite. Very simple, the way it should be, IMO


User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12609 times:
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Quoting Reffado (Reply 14):
To be honest, after reading this thread I've been thinking and I couldn't think of a single - no, not even one - airport in Brazil that isn't named after someone.

VCP and CGH I believe aren't named after a person, but I could be wrong...



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User currently offlineBoeing778X From United States of America, joined Nov 2013, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12589 times:

Okay, Okay.

I agree that airports shouldn't be named after people, with the exception of a few honorables such as BOS, JFK, IAH, etc.
I mean, none of us, for sure, call MCO McCoy Field   
MAD is in the neighborhood of Barajas, so it's appropriate.


User currently offlineCapt.Fantastic From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 7 hours ago) and read 12572 times:

Every airport in Saudi Arabia is named either after a King or a Prince, e.g. King Abdulaziz Airport in Jeddah, Prince Mohamed Bin Abdulaziz Airport is in Medina.

User currently offlinetjcab From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 12497 times:

Quoting macsog6 (Reply 11):
What happened to "District of Columbia Airport"?

It's actually in Arlington Virginia, but serves the Washington metro area


User currently offlineSchweigend From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 621 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 12419 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 5):
So we should count our blessings, I guess. At least they didn't name it "Santander Madrid Barajas" airport or something.

Now, that is scary! Corporate-named airports would be a real step down.

Regarding baseball, I still can't stomach Seattle's Safeco (insurance) field, and Houston went from naming their new ballpark after the Astros to, of all despicable things, ENRON Field, and now Minute Maid Park -- well, oranges are nice, I guess.

Quoting e38 (Reply 10):
For me, DCA will always be simply "Washington National Airport."

   I still call it "National", not Reagan.

Quoting FlyingSicilian (Reply 13):
Well George H. W Bush (whom it is named after not GWB)

Yes, I know, I work there, but notice how the new flashy silver greeting display at the JFK Blvd. airport entrance omits Bush senior's middle initials! Not that I'd want our airport named after either the father or son -- no offense, peace to them both.  


User currently offlineDexSwart From Australia, joined Aug 2012, 567 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 months 4 hours ago) and read 11586 times:

Try O. R. Tambo International Airport in Johannesburg!

There was actually a policy from 1994 that disallowed naming of places after politicians, but that policy was revoked in 2006 and the airport was named. I don't know many South Africans that call it by name.

King Shaka International Airport, on the other hand, I like. It wasn't renamed, as it's a greenfield project. Shaka Zulu is and was a very famous warrior and king. It suits the KZN provence well.

Anyone heard of Melbourne Tullamarine International, or just Melbourne Airport?  



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User currently offlinetrent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 567 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (6 months 4 hours ago) and read 11221 times:

Quoting sk736 (Reply 3):
I sincerely hope the rumoured plans to name LHR after Winston Churchill never see the light of day.

Oh? Is there a queue? A government official suggested in September 1997 that London Heathrow change its name to "Diana, Princess of Wales" or something along those lines.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/ca...-be-named-after-diana-1238172.html


User currently offlineBwest From Belgium, joined Jul 2006, 1370 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (6 months 2 hours ago) and read 10383 times:

I don't think it'll catch on. I very rarely hear people calling FCO "Leonardo da Vinci".

Overhere in Belgium almost everybody calls Brussels Airport by the town it's located in: Zaventem.

When I was young, the word Zaventem actually was synonymous for an airport to me, as news reports would just say "the plane landed at Zaventem".

It gets confusing though when Belgians wanna help foreigners how to get to the airport and tell them: "You need to go to Zaventem", the poor tourists take the train and then get of in the town iso at the airport...

The official name used to be "Brussels National Airport", and the train station is still called like that. I remember a foreigner asking me if they should get of here for a flight to the US, or if there was an international airport as well. They thought the "national" meant there were only internal flights...  Smile

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25 Pellegrine : Yes, I hate how DCA became Ronald Reagan whatever, especially how after Reagan fired the ATCers. Having grown up in DC especially, I still call it Nat
26 rakoon : It has been an improvised fact, another one of the goverment and AENA, instead and thinking a little about it and put the name "Adolfo Suárez" to ano
27 flyingturtle : At least Berlin's Willy Brandt Airport will be ready for the Second Coming of this great German politician. Honestly, naming airports after people is
28 CoachClass : Don't forget Burbank (Bob Hope) and Orange County (John Wayne). I've never heard anyone ever say that they're leaving for Hope or Wayne airports. Los
29 DALCE : I couldn't care less, to be honest. Any airport is just a place where my plane arrives near the final destination I want/need to be. A name is fine, b
30 Post contains images LOWS : VIE is named after the town nearby, Schwechat. SZG is Salzburg Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. Knowing the fine people of Oklahoma as I do, I think many peo
31 Post contains images EI747SYDNEY : They had a minutes respect for him before the Real Madrid v Barcelona game on Sunday night. Robbie
32 EL-AL : Here in Israel it works pretty well. TLV airport was named after David Ben Gurion in 1974, and all people refer the airport as "Ben Gurion", when ente
33 ORDFan : Never quite understood the dual-naming practices of European airports - at least it seems like a more common European thing. I'm thinking of Krakow-Ba
34 flyingturtle : In that case, the terminal buildings were completely newly built at another location. Giving the airport a new name made sense, because at the old si
35 turjo101 : Some names just work well - and it helps if they weren't controversial figures. YYZ for example is always refered to in Toronto as just 'Pearson'. Eve
36 flyingdoc787 : Manila's airport is named after Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr., who was shot in that airport on Aug. 21, 1983, as he was being escorted down the
37 texdravid : Lol. Why can't people just admit they don't like the names of airports commemorating politicians they don't like? Be honest. I am. I don't like that L
38 stratacruiser : During the apartheid era JNB was Jan Smuts International Airport.
39 Eltomzo : A 6 syllable shorthand name...I feel sorry for the people of Houston if they have to say that mouthful every time they refer to the airport!
40 Post contains images DocLightning : Wait for it... I'm sure it's coming eventually.
41 mainMAN : To be known from now on, universally, as "Madrid" !
42 Post contains images Birdwatching : I think I know the real reason why most people here don't seem to like airports named after people, and I'm surprised it took 41 replies to post this:
43 texdravid : Quote: People in 100 years will still look up to John F. Kennedy, but who in the year 2114 will remember politicians like Ronald Reagan, George Bush,
44 Post contains images lightsaber : This just ensured MAD is called "MAD." Americans will go by the three letter code since the official name is insanely long. Just like IAH, LAX, and J
45 tlecam : BOS is eponymous with Logan, General Edward Lawrence Logan. It was named after him not long after his death - either late 30's or early 40's. Prior to
46 Vulindlela : I think we all hate any of the ones that come about during our lifetime. JFK doesn't bother me because I know of nothing else. To me it's always been
47 tp1040 : O'Hare is named for a World War II pilot, the code is ORD for the previous name of Orchid Field. It is the international airport for Chicago and will
48 boysteve : Personally I like Sky Harbour, because that's exactly what it is! Simple! I have not heard this rumour, personally I think the only London Airport tha
49 einsteinboricua : Boeing Field anyone? I'm pretty certain I don't call it King County Airport. OK, the airport is not big as SEA, but still, it's an airfield named for
50 Web500sjc : Outsiders may not say they are goin to john Wayne...but all the locals know where you are going when you say "I am going to John Wayne" and to be fai
51 jfklganyc : That's right. The long dead are not as offensive as the recent dead. JFK doesn't offend many people as it has been that way for 50 years and he died
52 YULWinterSkies : But one of the terminals is named McNamara, instead of 1, 2, 3 or A B C D like most other airports... I agree. No place should be named after any ali
53 dc9northwest : For once, Romania did something nice. The main airports are named after aviation pioneers: Bucharest Henri Coanda, Bucharest Aurel Vlaicu, Timisoara T
54 Post contains links and images Stratofish : The main problem I see with renaming MAD is that it costs a lot of money and it is completely unnecessary (at this point in time). So here we have a n
55 Viscount724 : And in France you almost never hear anyone refer to CDG as Charles De Gaulle, or even just De Gaulle airport. It's usually just "Roissy". That's anot
56 Pellegrine : Since a few of us posters commented about DCA going from "National" to "Ronald Reagan," let's point out the wasted money just from the name change. Th
57 MayaviaERJ190 : I'm appalled by most of the entries in this forum. Most of you complain about the airports being named after famous people, aviation-related, or not.
58 DexSwart : Sydney has Kingford-Smith International Airport. Named after Australian aviation pioneer Charles Kingford-Smith.
59 baguy : To be honest, most people round here refer to it simply as 'Tullamarine', as it's shorter, and avoids confusion with Avalon.
60 VV701 : Quite. It has to be remembered that, despite their right-wing credentials, Reagan and Thatcher transformed the world through jaw-jaw rather than war-
61 Post contains images DexSwart : I know. I live in Melbourne. When I talk about the airport to those not from Melbourne, though, I just refer to it as "Melbourne"
62 SCQ83 : Certainly not my experience. I have lived in Paris for almost 2 years in different periods of time and most young to middle age people I know call it
63 stxbohn : Or "Intergalatic" as it was called back in my college days here in Houston although all flights remain in the atmosphere! Agreed, that it's a really
64 gabrielchew : Wow, they were pretty quick. Normally it takes a while to dedicated something to someone, not a matter of days. Whilst it may be an honurable thing t
65 kulatict : add ICT to the mix... some group lobbied to the city council and they agreed to change ICT from Wichita Mid-Continent Airport to Wichita Dwight D. Eis
66 UALWN : Unlike more divisive figures like Reagan, Clinton or Bush, Suárez was universally loved in Spain (it helped that he had Alzeimer's for the last 10 ye
67 AA777 : Almost nobody knows who IAD Washington Dulles International Airport is named after.... it's just one of those things! AA777
68 flyingturtle : John Foster Dulles, a U.S. foreign minister? (Yeah, right, without googling.) In the case of Dulles and JFK, naming the airports is sensible IMHO. "I
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