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A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 15  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (6 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 76128 times:
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As part 14 became quite long, it was locked down for further contributions. Please feel free to continue your discussion in this thread.

Part 14 can be found here:

A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 14 (by SA7700 Mar 5 2014 in Civil Aviation)


Regards,

SA7700


When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (6 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 76008 times:

AIB49WB and AIB11GG

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3688/13429561464_08980b743b_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/13429308383_222bfda651_c.jpg


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (6 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 75773 times:

AIB11GG was on the ground around 18:38 UTC but now back in the air!

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 75109 times:

AIB50WB is in the air and AIB11CF is warming up.

MSN4 will stay on the ground for the next two weeks and will do electrical and lightning tests at the A380 site.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 74941 times:

CF airborne at 09:20Z

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (6 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 74919 times:

I wonder if the MSN4 tests are the certification tests for lightening etc?

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 74707 times:

AIB50WB was back at 11:54 UTC!

AIB11CF is cruising at FL 43.000ft for a long time now...  Wow!


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 74696 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 6):
AIB11CF is cruising at FL 43.000ft for a long time now...

And after a very steep approach into TLS, CF has landed at 13:26 UTC.


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (6 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 74215 times:

MSN 1 just took off and did a couple of circuits at Tolouse before landing, don't have the times.


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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 73798 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 8):

By the way, I meant MSN 3. I get confused so easily!   

AIB11CF:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/13447815335_db048a4342_o_d.jpg



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1581 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (6 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 73777 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 9):
By the way, I meant MSN 3. I get confused so easily!   

Isn't that a picture of MSN2?



BV
User currently onlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 73508 times:

It's easy to lose track of this hardworking little fleet, full credit goes to the staff for keeping them flying   


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 12, posted (6 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 73262 times:

Next flight for MSN1:

http://fr24.com/AIB51WB

MSN 2 and 3 are online as well.



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 73062 times:

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 10):
Isn't that a picture of MSN2?

Yes it is, but I was talking about the the post I made above. Sorry, I should have made it clearer!   

Quoting Part147 (Reply 11):
It's easy to lose track of this hardworking little fleet, full credit goes to the staff for keeping them flying

   They really are doing an amazing job!



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 72998 times:

It was a short flight for Wibi this morning - a couple of circuits followed by flying about FL10 along the pyrennes - Natural icing?

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 72674 times:

I don't believe anyone has mentioned the fact that CF seems to have lost all those external sensors in the last couple of pictures posted....

Just a couple of orange plugged windows left, lets hope she'll start some of the Early Long Flights soon!  

A380 ELF:
1st 7hrs
2nd 10hrs
3rd 12hrs
4th 15hrs

If I remember correct



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 72592 times:

On the last image it does look like there are still some sensors near the wing root fairing.

User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 72443 times:

AIB52WB ready to take off

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 72374 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 17):
AIB52WB ready to take off

Take-off was 14:29 UTC.


User currently offlineJeanXFW From Germany, joined Mar 2014, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (6 months 6 days ago) and read 72184 times:

Please forgive my ignorance on this, but... what's the difference between these so called Early Long Flights and the kind of circuits MSN2 was doing the last couple of weeks out of XFW? Some of these flights were over 8h long...

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 20, posted (6 months 6 days ago) and read 72174 times:

Those Early Long Flights will have pax aboard and will fly to real airports, with real crew handling etc.


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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 72078 times:

AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5017/13468537793_84f8ca9b09_c.jpg


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 71702 times:

MSN 1 looks to be doing some circuits at Tolouse, seems to have changed to AIB52NW for some reason.  

Edit: Changed back to AIB52WB.

[Edited 2014-03-28 11:52:20]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 71618 times:

WB lands and heads back to the flight line - just as GiGi heads out to the runway.

GiGi completed an RTO and then headed back to the flightline.

[Edited 2014-03-28 12:12:19]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 71546 times:

MSN4 in the background:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13472535855/

MSN1 late night work:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13472948284/



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User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2804 posts, RR: 59
Reply 25, posted (6 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 71824 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 21):
AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing

Thanks for the photo, I think the things on the leading edge of the wing is artificial ice. It seems WB is continuing the ice tests, they might even have started the certification tests.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 26, posted (6 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 71745 times:

It seems MSN4 went inside a hangar today.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jujug/13476347824/

A nice close-up of MSN1's rear section:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jujug/13476098933/

There is something on that winglet and horizontal stabilizer as well.

[Edited 2014-03-28 16:50:49]


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User currently offlinebigsmile From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 169 posts, RR: 4
Reply 27, posted (6 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 72209 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 21):
AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing
Quoting ferpe (Reply 27):
I think the things on the leading edge of the wing is artificial ice. It seems WB is continuing the ice tests, they might even have started the certification tests.
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
There is something on that winglet and horizontal stabilizer as well.

Correct Ferpe, these are artificial ice on the leading edges of the wings (Slats included), VTP and HTP.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 28, posted (6 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 71950 times:

Hi bigsmile,

Is this part of the certification tests already?



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User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1452 posts, RR: 2
Reply 29, posted (6 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 71867 times:

Did somebody follow the test flight this morning? AIB53WB, did WiBi land at Tarbes?
In the air again.

[Edited 2014-03-29 03:50:28]

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (6 months 5 days ago) and read 71490 times:

AIB53WB touchdown in Toulouse at 14:45 UTC.


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User currently onlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (6 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 71224 times:

Anyway - here's a nice picture of XWB smiling…


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Alexey Petrov - RuSpotters Team




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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (6 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 70897 times:

AIB53WB:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7092/13491275833_3b2cab0f8e_o_d.jpg
www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13491275833/

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/13491546674_0950867ccc_o_d.jpg
www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13491546674/



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User currently onlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (6 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 69772 times:

AIB13GG is just North of Troyes and descending through 4000ft after leaving Toulouse earlier.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 34, posted (6 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 69014 times:

AIB13GG just airborne from XCR.

http://fr24.com/AIB13GG



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User currently offlineWingtip1005 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Mar 2014, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (6 months 3 days ago) and read 68644 times:

Not sure if these have been posted before but my dad just e-mailed these pictures of the tail strike test.

http://imgur.com/a/uGmVS


User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (6 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 68426 times:

AIB14GG airbourne since a few minutes

User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 797 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 68330 times:

G´day

Quoting Wingtip1005 (Reply 35):
pictures of the tail strike test

Thanks, very nice pics. I wonder how much Airbus gets paid for regrooving the runway   

With the downward forces applied by the "tailscraper" during the minimum unstick tests presumably there is quite some damage to the runway. Anyone out there that can elaborate on the subject? Thanks again


Cheers

Peter



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User currently onlineap305 From India, joined Jan 2000, 570 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 68197 times:

GG did a vmu test too? this is news...

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 39, posted (6 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 68209 times:

I recall Airbus saying they would do another set of VMU trials. Perhaps these are related to the certification process.

[Edited 2014-03-31 11:12:50]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (6 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 67950 times:

Is it not unusual to do such a potentially dangerous and potentially frame damaging test twice?

User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (6 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 67514 times:

Maybe they were really confident they wouldn't fail? 

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 42, posted (6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 66935 times:

Next flight for MSN2:

http://fr24.com/AIB12CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 43, posted (6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 66498 times:

AIB15GG just departed from XCR.

http://fr24.com/AIB15GG



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 66459 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 42):
Next flight for MSN2:

CF is back in TLS at 11:02 UTC.


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 66364 times:

Did GiGi overnight at XCR - didn't get her outbound from TLS this morning.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 46, posted (6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 66366 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
didn't get her outbound from TLS this morning.

It did, departed at 5:08 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-01 04:41:05]


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4761 posts, RR: 40
Reply 47, posted (6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 66232 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 39):
I recall Airbus saying they would do another set of VMU trials. Perhaps these are related to the certification process.

This was already predicted by Old Aero Guy if I am not mistaken. But all tests continue to go flawlessly. So there is nothing to be worried about, if anyone ever was worried about the progress of the flight test- and certification campaign.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 48, posted (6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 65703 times:

A few nice pictures of AIB12CF:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564739544/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564759004/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564474793/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564806194/



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 49, posted (6 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 64974 times:

Don't know if this has been posted before? A350 cabin will be revealed next Monday in Hamburg to the press, together with Airbus' new cabin center. Just in time for Aircraft Interior Expo as previously predicted.

User currently onlineovercast From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 64826 times:

Interesting, CF is airborne but with a GG flight number - AIB09GG
It looks lke a cabin test flight, so not a late aircraft change.


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 64797 times:

Yes it is flying as AIB09GG which is not in sequence for either frame. Most odd.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 52, posted (6 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 64998 times:

Next flight for MSN1:

http://fr24.com/AIB54WB



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 53, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 64867 times:

MSN3 is in the air as well, just airborne from XCR:

http://fr24.com/AIB17GG



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 64807 times:

Must have positioned there overnight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 55, posted (6 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 64774 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 54):
Must have positioned there overnight.

MSN3 departed at 5:01UTC from TLS, MSN2 followed at 5:22UTC.



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User currently onlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 56, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 64601 times:

I see in the A350 logbook that MSN1 has logged -7,9 hours for April, what the reason for this? Thanks!


Live From Amsterdam!
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 64574 times:

Please re check - I see 1.8 hours logged for todays flight as AIB54WB. Go to the detail page for the full information.

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 58, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 64554 times:

The HTML published version is updated every 5 minutes, apparently it updated right after I filled the 7:54 off blocks time, all is updated correclt now..  

MSN2 left coverage while still flying Northbound, definitely furthest North now and maybe she'll go as far North as Svallbard-Longyearbyen (LYR) or even further!



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (6 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 64473 times:

I see that GiGi is doing the promised circuits at Mulhouse (as advertised in advance on the A350 blog)

User currently onlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 60, posted (6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 64425 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 58):
The HTML published version is updated every 5 minutes, apparently it updated right after I filled the 7:54 off blocks time, all is updated correclt now..  

MSN2 left coverage while still flying Northbound, definitely furthest North now and maybe she'll go as far North as Svallbard-Longyearbyen (LYR) or even further!

Gotcha, thanks!!

filler filler filler



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User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 61, posted (6 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 64355 times:

A&C reports that one A350 (MSN3?) did 12 landings at EAP/BSL on March 31st.

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 62, posted (6 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 64126 times:

GiGi is back at TLS, 7hrs added to the program!  

CF is still out of coverage, last datapoint at 9:32Z, track 001, makes me wonder if there going all the way to 90 degrees North...  Wow!

Last position 73,2N, flying due North gives 17 degrees to 90 degrees

17 x 60 gives approx 1020NM x 2 is a 2040 NM round trip in uncovered area. Or approx. 4/5 hours.



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1452 posts, RR: 2
Reply 63, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 64029 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 62):
GiGi is back at TLS, 7hrs added to the program!  

CF is still out of coverage, last datapoint at 9:32Z, track 001, makes me wonder if there going all the way to 90 degrees North...  

Last position 73,2N, flying due North gives 17 degrees to 90 degrees

17 x 60 gives approx 1020NM x 2 is a 2040 NM round trip in uncovered area. Or approx. 4/5 hours.

Perhaps she landed at LYR on Svalbard.


User currently onlineovercast From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 64061 times:

Looks like CF is carrying out the Polar testing, making sure everything works when you flip from heading due north to due south in a second or two, and other High Latitude oddities.

Question is where will she come out of hiding? I imagine most likely will be a return to TLS, she could also easily pop into HEL to show off to Finnair.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 65, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 64076 times:

Quoting breiz (Reply 61):
A&C reports that one A350 (MSN3?) did 12 landings at EAP/BSL on March 31st.

VMU tests in BSL it seems.

http://twitter.com/Jerema320/status/451311820050292736/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Jerema320/status/451307879606517761/photo/1

[Edited 2014-04-02 05:47:10]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 64029 times:

VMU part 3?

Also have we seen any of the fleet do cross wind landings tests yet?


User currently onlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12589 posts, RR: 25
Reply 67, posted (6 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 64081 times:

Quoting overcast (Reply 64):
Looks like CF is carrying out the Polar testing, making sure everything works when you flip from heading due north to due south in a second or two, and other High Latitude oddities.

Yes, and when south of the Equator they must go flush all the bogs at once to see if the a/c can deal with the reverse Coriolis effect! 



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (6 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 63819 times:

CF has just reappeared over the east coast of Greenland.

WiBi and GiGi are also airborne for their second flights of the day.

[Edited 2014-04-02 07:30:57]

User currently offlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1452 posts, RR: 2
Reply 69, posted (6 months 1 day ago) and read 63683 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 68):
CF has just reappeared over the east coast of Greenland.

Than I assume no landing in LYR, polar light tourists.


User currently offlinespeedygonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (6 months 20 hours ago) and read 63055 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 55):
MSN2 followed at 5:22UTC.

Landed ~18:30 UTC after 13 hours in the air.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (6 months 19 hours ago) and read 62923 times:

I wonder if they had passengers on this flight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 72, posted (6 months 19 hours ago) and read 62832 times:

MSN1 today:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13587745845/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13587744275/

Looks like the artificial ice is gone?



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (6 months 6 hours ago) and read 61921 times:

AIB19GG with a late start today - take-off at 08:35 UTC.

WiBi is preparing the next flight too... AIB56WB.

[Edited 2014-04-03 02:49:28]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (6 months 5 hours ago) and read 61647 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 73):
AIB56WB

take-off at 9:54 UTC.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 75, posted (6 months 1 hour ago) and read 61134 times:

MSN2 North Pole flight confirmed by Airbus.

http://www.flugrevue.de/zivilluftfah...e-erreicht-1400-flugstunden/559952



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 76, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 60711 times:

AIB14CF was all afternoon online but never made it into the air.


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User currently offlinegocackletta From United States of America, joined Jan 2014, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 60406 times:

From what I've seen so far, the A350 looks like an absolutely gorgeous airplane. It just seems so fluid and smooth. Hopefully the testing process goes according to plan and we get to see this bird more often soon.  

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 59933 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 76):

He pushed back and stay 20 minutes with engines run and go back to the stand !


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 59828 times:

GiGi is up and running - airborne at about 08:28Z

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 80, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 59764 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 76):
AIB14CF was all afternoon online but never made it into the air.

Next try today:

http://fr24.com/AIB14CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 81, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 59436 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 15):
I don't believe anyone has mentioned the fact that CF seems to have lost all those external sensors in the last couple of pictures posted....
Quoting StTim (Reply 16):
On the last image it does look like there are still some sensors near the wing root fairing.

Just for comparison, the right-hand side of MSN2 is clean:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13620665353/

vs


http://www.flickr.com/photos/blaquebeat/13154353183

Most of the sensors were/are located on the left-hand side though, I'll try to find a few images of it.

[Edited 2014-04-04 03:55:48]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 82, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 59333 times:

Left side on April 1st  
msn2 1/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 83, posted (5 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 58448 times:

A close-up of the artificial ice on the winglet:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13481666143/



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User currently offlineknoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 84, posted (5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 57645 times:

MSN 002 just left for XFW with its first real passengers. Surprisingly, it is not showing up on FR24.

MSN 001 keeps doing some rounds since this morning.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 85, posted (5 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 57582 times:

Quoting knoxibus (Reply 84):
Surprisingly, it is not showing up on FR24

She's up now, surprisingly on T-MLAT, which suggests the ADS/B transponder is not transmitting...  Wow!

Is she flying to Germany again? for AIX2014

//Edit, or Airbus tried to keep this flight undercover and after reading the thread realized it didn't work. Or they read this topic, and addressed the ADS/B problem.

Tracking on normal FR24 ADS/B feeds, Yes, I am convinced Airbus is monitoring this thread!  Wink

[Edited 2014-04-05 06:18:22]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 86, posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 57392 times:

AIB15CF is now descending into XFW.



[Edited 2014-04-05 07:12:59]


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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 57294 times:

Ok first post in here:

This was actually a joke. Last time she came to XFW I was away, now I'm at home, but the weather couldn't be any worse:

This is the original:



After Lightroom:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/13644391703_238c2b8033_b.jpg
F-WWCF / Airbus Industrie / Airbus A350-941 / MSN 002 von insightAVIATION auf Flickr


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 57227 times:

I wonder how many she had on board and if they are making the return trip later?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 89, posted (5 months 4 weeks ago) and read 57125 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 88):
I wonder how many she had on board and if they are making the return trip later?

I assume these are staff for the Aircraft Interiors Expo, they should stay a few days (including MSN2).



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 90, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 57110 times:

MSN4 is back on the Flightline at the flight test center:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13641301345/

More pictures of today in his photo stream

[Edited 2014-04-05 08:33:40]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 57071 times:

Hopefully that is the lightening and electrical interference certification tests completed.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 92, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 56908 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 90):
More pictures of today in his photo stream

Any idea what "special VMCG" means?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13641277235/

[Edited 2014-04-05 09:48:04]


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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 67
Reply 93, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 56722 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 92):
Any idea what "special VMCG" means?

Don't know what makes it "special", but judging by the rudder position, it is an engine inoperative takeoff. Perhaps the Vmcg Cert test?



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User currently offlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 56417 times:

That's sooner than expected for MSN4? Thought it was meant to be on the ground for 2 weeks, it's just been 8 days I think

User currently onlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 55238 times:

Confirmation that the 'polar' flight took place...

http://www.aero.de/news-19359/Ein-Be...ei-den-Flugtestern-von-Airbus.html



It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineUnflug From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 55068 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 95):
Confirmation that the 'polar' flight took place...

See reply 75:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 75):
MSN2 North Pole flight confirmed by Airbus.

Unfortunately both articles in German only.


User currently onlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 54815 times:

Quoting Unflug (Reply 96):

Apologies, been busy over the weekend and got the link from ....

http://www.bloga350.blogspot.ie/2014...totype-made-north-pole-flight.html

...so I thought it was new information   



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 98, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 54196 times:

AIB16CF airborne now.

http://fr24.com/AIB16CF



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 54173 times:

Coming back to TLS?

Quiet day otherwise on the flying front.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 100, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 54095 times:

Nearly 200 flight hours are scheduled for the route proving flights.

http://www.air-cosmos.com/2014/04/07...msn5-prendra-l-air-en-mai-prochain



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 101, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 53764 times:

A bit more on the long flight cabin testing:

http://www.ausbt.com.au/airbus-to-la...ch-a350-world-tour-later-this-year

Quote:
"The test engineers say this is where they like to play around and really cause problems. So they’ll take the inflight entertainment system down and see how the cabin crew can handle it, how they can fix it."



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 102, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 53953 times:

A nice close-up of the A350 undercarriage:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/13698021514/



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 53745 times:

3 photos oh AIB16CF arriving from XFW !

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/13699838274_6704029de3_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/13699514793_6e822d3d7e_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/13699837924_5f71ab1fcc_c.jpg


User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 53242 times:

Will the A350 make an appearance in the US anytime soon for testing?

User currently offlineUnflug From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 488 posts, RR: 2
Reply 105, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 53029 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 104):
Will the A350 make an appearance in the US anytime soon for testing?

Yes, next month for cold weather testing in Florida.

Not joking: McKinley Climatic Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base  


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 106, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 52681 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 104):

Besides what Unflug said, that the 350 will fly to Florida soon, I also expect some US destinations during this "World Tour" mentioned in this article http://www.ausbt.com.au/airbus-to-la...ch-a350-world-tour-later-this-year posted by Karel in reply 101

Potential candidates I suspect are UA, AA, HA and maybe DL head office cities?? DL has the RFP open so it could be an opportunity to present the aircraft to them before a decision is made  
Some 200 hours have been planned for these Route Proving flights, so there is plenty of time for many visits, I personally hope for AMS 

//Edit: just realized UA only has the -1000 on order of course... But maybe they still send the -900 their way  
//Edit2: Clearly not awake yet Big grin HA only has the -800, but they still need some persuasion to change to -900 :p

[Edited 2014-04-08 02:42:41]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2948 posts, RR: 23
Reply 107, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 52334 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 106):
Some 200 hours have been planned for these Route Proving flights, so there is plenty of time for many visits

TLS -ORD - ATL - DFW - HNL - TLS would do it and a nice long non-stop back to Europe.     

Rgds



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 52001 times:

MSN 1 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB59WB

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 51629 times:

AIB59WB , request take off on 32L fly till 25mn and back to ILS 14R but not realised...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3758/13718616144_e0cb653dd0_c.jpg


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 51396 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 108):
MSN 1 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB59WB

Landed back in TLS at 17:31 UTC.


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2137 posts, RR: 4
Reply 111, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 51341 times:

Anyone have diagram of the internal structures of the 350 wing? I know it's probably proprietary.

I wonder this because the A350 wing seems not to flex as much as the 787. I wonder if this is a result of design philosophy or manufacturing techniques?

bt



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 51325 times:

This was covered elsewhere - maybe in tech ops. There is a different design philosophy. If you see the A350 flaps they are continuous. The control surfaces are further out at the wing tip. If the wing flexed as much as the 787 then you could get control reversal which would not be good. The 787 control surface is between the two flap elements.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 113, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 51331 times:

Different design philosophy. Here are a few interesting threads about the subject:

Boeing Vs. Airbus Wing Design Philosophies (by ferpe Apr 16 2012 in Tech Ops)
A350: Where Is The Wing Flex? (by faro Jun 14 2013 in Tech Ops)



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 50684 times:

MSN 3 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB23GG

Edit: And took off!

[Edited 2014-04-09 01:18:35]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 50667 times:

GiGi is in the air as AIB23GG since 8:17 UTC.

User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 50541 times:

MSN 1 just appeared with callsign AIB60WB: http://fr24.com/AIB60WB

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 50352 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 116):
MSN 1 just appeared with callsign AIB60WB

with take-off at 9:18 UTC


User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 49825 times:

The 2 A350 departing this morning !

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/13736041185_d95b3193c3_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/13736083793_c205f85fec_c.jpg


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 119, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 49512 times:

GiGi is up as AIB301

Www.fr24.com/AIB301 on FR24 MLAT again, flying NorthWest.... Ferry to Florida?  



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 49400 times:

Looks like she is doing a Filton fly past.

Scratch that - from FR24 GiGi has put down at Kemble aerodrome!

I wonder why?

[Edited 2014-04-09 09:38:51]

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 49310 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 120):

Airbus have tweeted an image of the 'A350XWB's first ever UK landing':

www.twitter.com/Airbus/status/453940328156786688

As StTim said, I wonder why?  



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 49328 times:

Airbus have also tweeted 'Great news! Our #A350 XWB has landed in the UK for the 1st time as part of the ongoing flight test'.
www.twitter.com/airbus/status/453934855903268865

GiGi will be in and out of Cotswold Airport throughout tomorrow.

What tests could be happening?

[Edited 2014-04-09 10:20:32]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 123, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 49130 times:

Some nice footage of the MSN4 noise tests in Spain:

http://youtu.be/_jiF0sSwY9c?t=2m5s (video made by insightAVIATION)

http://oi60.tinypic.com/34g2hwx.jpg



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 48316 times:

AIB61WB is in the air.

Doing touch and go's at TLS.

[Edited 2014-04-10 03:22:50]


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User currently offlineFlyingAY From Finland, joined Jun 2007, 703 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 48126 times:

Can someone please summarize where we are currently (it would be great if the thread opening post would contain that summary actually)? I'm not following that closely, but it's an interesting topic!

How many hours have each of the planes flown? Which major tests are still pending and which are already completed? Is the test program on track for an EIS late this year? What's the latest comment coming from Airbus regarding the testing?

Thank you!

[Edited 2014-04-10 04:19:15]

User currently onlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 126, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 47991 times:

Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 125):
How many hours have each of the planes flown? Which major tests are still pending and which are already completed? Is the test program on track for an EIS late this year? What's the latest comment coming from Airbus regarding the testing?

This excellent sheet has most of the information you are requesting;

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 47928 times:

MSN 3 flew as FWZGG earlier, take off from Cotswold at 10:44 and landed at 13:28 UTC.

They may be wrong, could someone check?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 128, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 47878 times:

MSN3 did hot fuel certification testing at Cotswold Airport.

http://www.airbus-group.com/airbusgr...s.20140410_airbus_a350_xwb_uk.html

Quote:
“This visit is part of the aircraft’s certification. Experts from the nearby Airbus Filton facility are playing a key role in supporting the fuel system tests.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/airbusgroup/13760025655/

[Edited 2014-04-10 08:29:53]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 47469 times:

AIB62WB back in TLS at 18:13 UTC after flying along the north coast of Spain.

Take-off was around 15:05 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-10 11:18:46]

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 130, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 47400 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 129):

I checked, there were a lot of clouds in that area with what looked like high tops, my guess would be ongoing natural icing trials...  

Also MSN3 is doing a second flight from the UK, flying as FWZGG



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 47332 times:

MSN 1 taking off today:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/13764347794_bae25de04b_b.jpg
F-WXWB Airbus Industrie Airbus A350-941 - cn 001 von Flox Papa auf Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/13764009603_195b55644e_b.jpg
F-WXWB Airbus Industrie Airbus A350-941 - cn 001 von Flox Papa auf Flickr


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 132, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 47312 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 123):
Some nice footage of the MSN4 noise tests in Spain:

http://youtu.be/_jiF0sSwY9c?t=2m5s (video made by insightAVIATION)

The video also confirms VMU tests have been done in March.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/42kjd.jpg



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46503 times:

This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Maybe they should send her into Lukla next!  



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User currently onlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1619 posts, RR: 7
Reply 134, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46279 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Wow, that was awesome!!!!



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46295 times:

As per FR24 GiGi is on the way back to TLS from Cotswold as AIB301.

Take-off approx. 13:55 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-11 07:23:29]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 46284 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 134):
http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

WOW! How did GiGi know where the camera is positioned?  


User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 46061 times:

AIB63WB on the move.

Also MSN4 active but no callsign at the moment.

Edit: Now callsign AIB4R4

[Edited 2014-04-11 08:23:20]

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 138, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 46079 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Does the A350 qualify as STOL?   


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 45960 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 137):
AIB63WB on the move.

With only 1 1/2 h missing to reach 60% (or 1.500h) of the total planned flight test time, WB will probably make this milestone very easily today!


User currently onlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 45943 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Looks like a very firm touchdown. Rocking back and forth after it stopped. Were the reversers being used until full stop or were they just open? Is that brake smoke in front of the bogie after the stop?
Edit: Actually, it looks like the smoke is coming from the reverser.

[Edited 2014-04-11 09:05:16]

User currently offlinepugman211 From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 45897 times:

Looks like the oil venting from the engine.

If WB was empty and brakes on full, would be quite easy to stop so quickly.


User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 142, posted (5 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 45820 times:

MSN 3 just appeared with callsign FWZGG again: http://fr24.com/FWZGG

User currently onlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 45789 times:

Quoting pugman211 (Reply 141):
If WB was empty and brakes on full, would be quite easy to stop so quickly.

I'm curious if they used full reverse right up to stopping.


User currently onlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 45494 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):

Wow!

She caught the 'third wire' beautifully!   


And here she is taking from the UK...

http://youtu.be/-0-2t9n-qOY

[Edited 2014-04-11 12:13:44]


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (5 months 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 45331 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 144):

     



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 45270 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 144):
And here she is taking from the UK...

What a beautiful sound those engines make!



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 45206 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 137):
AIB63WB on the move.

Back at home at 19:45 UTC.

-> A350XWB flight test program has passed 1.500 hour of flying!!!


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 45142 times:

AIB63WB Takeoff:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3703/13782132775_13f49df496_o_d.jpg


AIB301 Landing back in TLS:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7201/13782121035_63c0902818_o_d.jpg



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1581 posts, RR: 3
Reply 149, posted (5 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 44803 times:

Quoting hivue (Reply 140):
Edit: Actually, it looks like the smoke is coming from the reverser.

No, its coming from an oil pipe under the engine, its a feature of the Trent XWB when on the ground at idle.



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User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1719 posts, RR: 8
Reply 150, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 42992 times:

No flight today? What's happening? It has been so much clockwork recently…

User currently offlineAngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 488 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 42308 times:

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 150):
No flight today? What's happening? It has been so much clockwork recently…

Everyone gone on holidays for Easter?


User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 42404 times:

MSN 1 is already in the air for a while: http://fr24.com/AIB65WB Currently at 30,000ft and 457 kt .

User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 42149 times:

MSN 4 also took off, after being on thr ground for more than 3 weeks: http://fr24.com/AIB24NW

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 154, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 41788 times:

Face to face with WB !
AIB56WB ready for take off this mroning

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3675/13869723075_f4dddfaf00_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/13870113774_282ebf2727_c.jpg


User currently onlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 40727 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 128):
MSN3 did hot fuel certification testing at Cotswold Airport.

Karel, do you have more info on what exactly is done during hot fuel certification tests ?

Quoting bycac (Reply 154):

Face to face with WB !

She does look imposing! Thanks for the regular photo updates, Clement!  



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User currently onlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 40523 times:

AIB25NW is doing low-level circuits to the West of Tarbes.

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB25NW


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 157, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 40207 times:

Quoting sturmovik (Reply 155):
Karel, do you have more info on what exactly is done during hot fuel certification tests ?

I'm guessing the aircraft needs to refuel while the engines are running.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 158, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 39664 times:

MSN4 today:

msn4 16/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

AIB26NW 16/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 39579 times:

And other !

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/13894549634_bb4ea94a8a_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/13894134455_de5716b4a2_c.jpg


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 160, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 39361 times:

Next flight for MSN2:

http://fr24.com/AIB17CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 161, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 39211 times:

MSN2 just finished a few loops:

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2yx5i52.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 162, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 38361 times:

Four test flights today: AIB66WB, AIB67WB, AIB18CF and AIB27NW.

And MSN2 is now online as AIB1234.



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 38260 times:

AIB66WB and AIB18CF on take off this morning :

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/13910680544_f28f283736_c.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5075/13910261285_4eb351b2ba_c.jpg


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 164, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 37985 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 162):
Four test flights today: AIB66WB, AIB67WB, AIB18CF and AIB27NW.

And we have a 5th flight:

http://fr24.com/AIB28NW



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 165, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 37194 times:

Summary from yesterday's flights:

> MSN1: flew about 9h29m in two flights
> MSN2: flew about 2 hours
> MSN4: flew about 6h40m in two flights

That's good for a total of ~ 18 hours.

For today, MSN4 just departed from TLS and AIB68WB is lining-up:

http://fr24.com/AIB29NW
http://fr24.com/AIB68WB



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 166, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 36810 times:

MSN3 airborne as well:

http://fr24.com/AIB30GG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 167, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 36662 times:

MSN2 is also flying:

http://fr24.com/AIB19CF

All four A350s will have flown today.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 168, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 36283 times:

We have both AIB30NW and AIB69WB in the air for their second flights for today. Intense flying last two days.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 169, posted (5 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 36218 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 168):
Intense flying last two days.

I guess that's because there will be no flights on Monday (holiday).



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 170, posted (5 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 36192 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 169):

But isn't there already today?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 171, posted (5 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 36199 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 170):
But isn't there already today?

Many companies are only closed on Easter Monday.



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User currently onlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 172, posted (5 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 36027 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 170):
But isn't there already today?

It's not a holiday in France today except, I think, for Alsace.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 173, posted (5 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 35837 times:

Face to face with MSN1:


Airbus A350-941 msn 001 by dn280tls, on Flickr



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2426 posts, RR: 1
Reply 174, posted (5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 35054 times:

MSN 3 producing some smoke from the right engine, the photographer mentions that its an engine start:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5288/13934014045_9c1d764359_b.jpgmsn3 19/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 175, posted (5 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 34965 times:

GG is currently showing as having 597 hours under her belt. Only 3 hours left to the unofficial target for this test frame.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 176, posted (5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 34361 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 174):
MSN 3 producing some smoke from the right engine, the photographer mentions that its an engine start:

Indeed, the engine was off during takeoff as this picture shows:


msn3 19/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 177, posted (5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 34615 times:

Looks like a full engine out take off. Certification progress continues.

Do we know is any formal cross wind landing testing has been undertaken yet?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 178, posted (5 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 34581 times:

No news about cross wind landings yet.

MSN1 did natural ice tests on Friday.

[Edited 2014-04-20 02:56:46]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 733 posts, RR: 6
Reply 179, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 33476 times:

And AIB33GG concluded with 3 hrs making exactly 600/600 hrs now acc. to my administration...

Let us see what happens now, maybe Airbus has changed priorities and MSN3 will continue to fly...  



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 779 posts, RR: 0
Reply 180, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 33163 times:

I am sure it will contiue to fly  

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 181, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 33200 times:

It will, MSN3 has yet to complete the extreme temperature tests in Florida, and the hot weather campaign in the Middle East.


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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 182, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 32910 times:

Anyone knows how many hours has been added to test program for testing NiCd battery system?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11838 posts, RR: 33
Reply 183, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 32812 times:

Video of MSN3 takeoff with 1 engine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/f-alex_alexis_charroud/13949549822/



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User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 712 posts, RR: 0
Reply 184, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 32699 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 183):

Thanks for sharing that, what an odd thing to watch...was that video slowed down do you think, I'm guessing it was...also I wonder why the landing gear was lowered again after starting the engine



Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)