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A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 15  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 76856 times:
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As part 14 became quite long, it was locked down for further contributions. Please feel free to continue your discussion in this thread.

Part 14 can be found here:

A350 Test Flights Official Thread Part 14 (by SA7700 Mar 5 2014 in Civil Aviation)


Regards,

SA7700


When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 76736 times:

AIB49WB and AIB11GG

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3688/13429561464_08980b743b_c.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/13429308383_222bfda651_c.jpg


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 76501 times:

AIB11GG was on the ground around 18:38 UTC but now back in the air!

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 3, posted (8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 75837 times:

AIB50WB is in the air and AIB11CF is warming up.

MSN4 will stay on the ground for the next two weeks and will do electrical and lightning tests at the A380 site.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 75669 times:

CF airborne at 09:20Z

User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 75647 times:

I wonder if the MSN4 tests are the certification tests for lightening etc?

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 75435 times:

AIB50WB was back at 11:54 UTC!

AIB11CF is cruising at FL 43.000ft for a long time now...  Wow!


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 75424 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 6):
AIB11CF is cruising at FL 43.000ft for a long time now...

And after a very steep approach into TLS, CF has landed at 13:26 UTC.


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 74943 times:

MSN 1 just took off and did a couple of circuits at Tolouse before landing, don't have the times.


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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 74526 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 8):

By the way, I meant MSN 3. I get confused so easily!   

AIB11CF:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/13447815335_db048a4342_o_d.jpg



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 74505 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 9):
By the way, I meant MSN 3. I get confused so easily!   

Isn't that a picture of MSN2?



BV
User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 74236 times:

It's easy to lose track of this hardworking little fleet, full credit goes to the staff for keeping them flying   


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 73990 times:

Next flight for MSN1:

http://fr24.com/AIB51WB

MSN 2 and 3 are online as well.



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 73790 times:

Quoting BoeingVista (Reply 10):
Isn't that a picture of MSN2?

Yes it is, but I was talking about the the post I made above. Sorry, I should have made it clearer!   

Quoting Part147 (Reply 11):
It's easy to lose track of this hardworking little fleet, full credit goes to the staff for keeping them flying

   They really are doing an amazing job!



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 73726 times:

It was a short flight for Wibi this morning - a couple of circuits followed by flying about FL10 along the pyrennes - Natural icing?

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 73402 times:

I don't believe anyone has mentioned the fact that CF seems to have lost all those external sensors in the last couple of pictures posted....

Just a couple of orange plugged windows left, lets hope she'll start some of the Early Long Flights soon!  

A380 ELF:
1st 7hrs
2nd 10hrs
3rd 12hrs
4th 15hrs

If I remember correct



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 73320 times:

On the last image it does look like there are still some sensors near the wing root fairing.

User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 73171 times:

AIB52WB ready to take off

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 73102 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 17):
AIB52WB ready to take off

Take-off was 14:29 UTC.


User currently offlineJeanXFW From Germany, joined Mar 2014, 5 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 72912 times:

Please forgive my ignorance on this, but... what's the difference between these so called Early Long Flights and the kind of circuits MSN2 was doing the last couple of weeks out of XFW? Some of these flights were over 8h long...

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 20, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 72902 times:

Those Early Long Flights will have pax aboard and will fly to real airports, with real crew handling etc.


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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 72806 times:

AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5017/13468537793_84f8ca9b09_c.jpg


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 72430 times:

MSN 1 looks to be doing some circuits at Tolouse, seems to have changed to AIB52NW for some reason.  

Edit: Changed back to AIB52WB.

[Edited 2014-03-28 11:52:20]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 72346 times:

WB lands and heads back to the flight line - just as GiGi heads out to the runway.

GiGi completed an RTO and then headed back to the flightline.

[Edited 2014-03-28 12:12:19]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 24, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 72274 times:

MSN4 in the background:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13472535855/

MSN1 late night work:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13472948284/



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User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2805 posts, RR: 59
Reply 25, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 72552 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 21):
AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing

Thanks for the photo, I think the things on the leading edge of the wing is artificial ice. It seems WB is continuing the ice tests, they might even have started the certification tests.



Non French in France
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 26, posted (8 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 72474 times:

It seems MSN4 went inside a hangar today.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jujug/13476347824/

A nice close-up of MSN1's rear section:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/jujug/13476098933/

There is something on that winglet and horizontal stabilizer as well.

[Edited 2014-03-28 16:50:49]


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User currently offlinebigsmile From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 170 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 72938 times:

Quoting bycac (Reply 21):
AIB 52WB with some sensor on the wing
Quoting ferpe (Reply 27):
I think the things on the leading edge of the wing is artificial ice. It seems WB is continuing the ice tests, they might even have started the certification tests.
Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 29):
There is something on that winglet and horizontal stabilizer as well.

Correct Ferpe, these are artificial ice on the leading edges of the wings (Slats included), VTP and HTP.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 28, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 72679 times:

Hi bigsmile,

Is this part of the certification tests already?



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User currently onlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1543 posts, RR: 3
Reply 29, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 72596 times:

Did somebody follow the test flight this morning? AIB53WB, did WiBi land at Tarbes?
In the air again.

[Edited 2014-03-29 03:50:28]

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 72218 times:

AIB53WB touchdown in Toulouse at 14:45 UTC.


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User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 71953 times:

Anyway - here's a nice picture of XWB smiling…


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Alexey Petrov - RuSpotters Team




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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 71625 times:

AIB53WB:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7092/13491275833_3b2cab0f8e_o_d.jpg
www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13491275833/

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7226/13491546674_0950867ccc_o_d.jpg
www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13491546674/



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User currently offlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 70500 times:

AIB13GG is just North of Troyes and descending through 4000ft after leaving Toulouse earlier.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 34, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 69742 times:

AIB13GG just airborne from XCR.

http://fr24.com/AIB13GG



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User currently offlineWingtip1005 From UK - Northern Ireland, joined Mar 2014, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 69372 times:

Not sure if these have been posted before but my dad just e-mailed these pictures of the tail strike test.

http://imgur.com/a/uGmVS



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 69154 times:

AIB14GG airbourne since a few minutes

User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 822 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 69058 times:

G´day

Quoting Wingtip1005 (Reply 35):
pictures of the tail strike test

Thanks, very nice pics. I wonder how much Airbus gets paid for regrooving the runway   

With the downward forces applied by the "tailscraper" during the minimum unstick tests presumably there is quite some damage to the runway. Anyone out there that can elaborate on the subject? Thanks again


Cheers

Peter



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User currently offlineap305 From India, joined Jan 2000, 635 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 68925 times:

GG did a vmu test too? this is news...

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 39, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 68937 times:

I recall Airbus saying they would do another set of VMU trials. Perhaps these are related to the certification process.

[Edited 2014-03-31 11:12:50]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 68678 times:

Is it not unusual to do such a potentially dangerous and potentially frame damaging test twice?

User currently onlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 68242 times:

Maybe they were really confident they wouldn't fail? 

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 42, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 67663 times:

Next flight for MSN2:

http://fr24.com/AIB12CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 43, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 67226 times:

AIB15GG just departed from XCR.

http://fr24.com/AIB15GG



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 67187 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 42):
Next flight for MSN2:

CF is back in TLS at 11:02 UTC.


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 67092 times:

Did GiGi overnight at XCR - didn't get her outbound from TLS this morning.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 46, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 67094 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 45):
didn't get her outbound from TLS this morning.

It did, departed at 5:08 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-01 04:41:05]


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4944 posts, RR: 40
Reply 47, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 66960 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 39):
I recall Airbus saying they would do another set of VMU trials. Perhaps these are related to the certification process.

This was already predicted by Old Aero Guy if I am not mistaken. But all tests continue to go flawlessly. So there is nothing to be worried about, if anyone ever was worried about the progress of the flight test- and certification campaign.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 48, posted (8 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 66431 times:

A few nice pictures of AIB12CF:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564739544/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564759004/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564474793/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13564806194/



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User currently offlineBREmer From Germany, joined May 2004, 551 posts, RR: 16
Reply 49, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 65702 times:

Don't know if this has been posted before? A350 cabin will be revealed next Monday in Hamburg to the press, together with Airbus' new cabin center. Just in time for Aircraft Interior Expo as previously predicted.

User currently offlineovercast From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 65554 times:

Interesting, CF is airborne but with a GG flight number - AIB09GG
It looks lke a cabin test flight, so not a late aircraft change.


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 65525 times:

Yes it is flying as AIB09GG which is not in sequence for either frame. Most odd.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 52, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 65726 times:

Next flight for MSN1:

http://fr24.com/AIB54WB



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 53, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 65595 times:

MSN3 is in the air as well, just airborne from XCR:

http://fr24.com/AIB17GG



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 65535 times:

Must have positioned there overnight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 55, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 65502 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 54):
Must have positioned there overnight.

MSN3 departed at 5:01UTC from TLS, MSN2 followed at 5:22UTC.



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1667 posts, RR: 7
Reply 56, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 65329 times:

I see in the A350 logbook that MSN1 has logged -7,9 hours for April, what the reason for this? Thanks!


Live From Amsterdam!
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 65302 times:

Please re check - I see 1.8 hours logged for todays flight as AIB54WB. Go to the detail page for the full information.

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 58, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 65282 times:

The HTML published version is updated every 5 minutes, apparently it updated right after I filled the 7:54 off blocks time, all is updated correclt now..  

MSN2 left coverage while still flying Northbound, definitely furthest North now and maybe she'll go as far North as Svallbard-Longyearbyen (LYR) or even further!



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 65201 times:

I see that GiGi is doing the promised circuits at Mulhouse (as advertised in advance on the A350 blog)

User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1667 posts, RR: 7
Reply 60, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 65153 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 58):
The HTML published version is updated every 5 minutes, apparently it updated right after I filled the 7:54 off blocks time, all is updated correclt now..  

MSN2 left coverage while still flying Northbound, definitely furthest North now and maybe she'll go as far North as Svallbard-Longyearbyen (LYR) or even further!

Gotcha, thanks!!

filler filler filler



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User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1920 posts, RR: 2
Reply 61, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 65083 times:

A&C reports that one A350 (MSN3?) did 12 landings at EAP/BSL on March 31st.

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 62, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64854 times:

GiGi is back at TLS, 7hrs added to the program!  

CF is still out of coverage, last datapoint at 9:32Z, track 001, makes me wonder if there going all the way to 90 degrees North...  Wow!

Last position 73,2N, flying due North gives 17 degrees to 90 degrees

17 x 60 gives approx 1020NM x 2 is a 2040 NM round trip in uncovered area. Or approx. 4/5 hours.



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1543 posts, RR: 3
Reply 63, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64757 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 62):
GiGi is back at TLS, 7hrs added to the program!  

CF is still out of coverage, last datapoint at 9:32Z, track 001, makes me wonder if there going all the way to 90 degrees North...  

Last position 73,2N, flying due North gives 17 degrees to 90 degrees

17 x 60 gives approx 1020NM x 2 is a 2040 NM round trip in uncovered area. Or approx. 4/5 hours.

Perhaps she landed at LYR on Svalbard.


User currently offlineovercast From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64789 times:

Looks like CF is carrying out the Polar testing, making sure everything works when you flip from heading due north to due south in a second or two, and other High Latitude oddities.

Question is where will she come out of hiding? I imagine most likely will be a return to TLS, she could also easily pop into HEL to show off to Finnair.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 65, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64804 times:

Quoting breiz (Reply 61):
A&C reports that one A350 (MSN3?) did 12 landings at EAP/BSL on March 31st.

VMU tests in BSL it seems.

http://twitter.com/Jerema320/status/451311820050292736/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Jerema320/status/451307879606517761/photo/1

[Edited 2014-04-02 05:47:10]


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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64757 times:

VMU part 3?

Also have we seen any of the fleet do cross wind landings tests yet?


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12957 posts, RR: 25
Reply 67, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 64809 times:

Quoting overcast (Reply 64):
Looks like CF is carrying out the Polar testing, making sure everything works when you flip from heading due north to due south in a second or two, and other High Latitude oddities.

Yes, and when south of the Equator they must go flush all the bogs at once to see if the a/c can deal with the reverse Coriolis effect! 



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 64547 times:

CF has just reappeared over the east coast of Greenland.

WiBi and GiGi are also airborne for their second flights of the day.

[Edited 2014-04-02 07:30:57]

User currently onlinemjoelnir From Iceland, joined Feb 2013, 1543 posts, RR: 3
Reply 69, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 64411 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 68):
CF has just reappeared over the east coast of Greenland.

Than I assume no landing in LYR, polar light tourists.


User currently offlinespeedygonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 63783 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 55):
MSN2 followed at 5:22UTC.

Landed ~18:30 UTC after 13 hours in the air.



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 63651 times:

I wonder if they had passengers on this flight.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 72, posted (8 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 63560 times:

MSN1 today:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13587745845/


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13587744275/

Looks like the artificial ice is gone?



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 73, posted (8 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 62649 times:

AIB19GG with a late start today - take-off at 08:35 UTC.

WiBi is preparing the next flight too... AIB56WB.

[Edited 2014-04-03 02:49:28]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 62375 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 73):
AIB56WB

take-off at 9:54 UTC.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 75, posted (8 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 61862 times:

MSN2 North Pole flight confirmed by Airbus.

http://www.flugrevue.de/zivilluftfah...e-erreicht-1400-flugstunden/559952



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 76, posted (8 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 61439 times:

AIB14CF was all afternoon online but never made it into the air.


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User currently offlinegocackletta From United States of America, joined Jan 2014, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 61134 times:

From what I've seen so far, the A350 looks like an absolutely gorgeous airplane. It just seems so fluid and smooth. Hopefully the testing process goes according to plan and we get to see this bird more often soon.  

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 60661 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 76):

He pushed back and stay 20 minutes with engines run and go back to the stand !


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 60556 times:

GiGi is up and running - airborne at about 08:28Z

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 80, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 60492 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 76):
AIB14CF was all afternoon online but never made it into the air.

Next try today:

http://fr24.com/AIB14CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 81, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 60164 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 15):
I don't believe anyone has mentioned the fact that CF seems to have lost all those external sensors in the last couple of pictures posted....
Quoting StTim (Reply 16):
On the last image it does look like there are still some sensors near the wing root fairing.

Just for comparison, the right-hand side of MSN2 is clean:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13620665353/

vs


http://www.flickr.com/photos/blaquebeat/13154353183

Most of the sensors were/are located on the left-hand side though, I'll try to find a few images of it.

[Edited 2014-04-04 03:55:48]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 82, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 60061 times:

Left side on April 1st  
msn2 1/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 83, posted (8 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 59176 times:

A close-up of the artificial ice on the winglet:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/ramis-photos/13481666143/



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User currently offlineknoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 84, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 58373 times:

MSN 002 just left for XFW with its first real passengers. Surprisingly, it is not showing up on FR24.

MSN 001 keeps doing some rounds since this morning.



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 85, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 58310 times:

Quoting knoxibus (Reply 84):
Surprisingly, it is not showing up on FR24

She's up now, surprisingly on T-MLAT, which suggests the ADS/B transponder is not transmitting...  Wow!

Is she flying to Germany again? for AIX2014

//Edit, or Airbus tried to keep this flight undercover and after reading the thread realized it didn't work. Or they read this topic, and addressed the ADS/B problem.

Tracking on normal FR24 ADS/B feeds, Yes, I am convinced Airbus is monitoring this thread!  Wink

[Edited 2014-04-05 06:18:22]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 86, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 58120 times:

AIB15CF is now descending into XFW.



[Edited 2014-04-05 07:12:59]


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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 58022 times:

Ok first post in here:

This was actually a joke. Last time she came to XFW I was away, now I'm at home, but the weather couldn't be any worse:

This is the original:



After Lightroom:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7165/13644391703_238c2b8033_b.jpg
F-WWCF / Airbus Industrie / Airbus A350-941 / MSN 002 von insightAVIATION auf Flickr


User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 57955 times:

I wonder how many she had on board and if they are making the return trip later?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 89, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 57853 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 88):
I wonder how many she had on board and if they are making the return trip later?

I assume these are staff for the Aircraft Interiors Expo, they should stay a few days (including MSN2).



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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 90, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 57838 times:

MSN4 is back on the Flightline at the flight test center:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13641301345/

More pictures of today in his photo stream

[Edited 2014-04-05 08:33:40]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 57799 times:

Hopefully that is the lightening and electrical interference certification tests completed.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 92, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 57636 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 90):
More pictures of today in his photo stream

Any idea what "special VMCG" means?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/13641277235/

[Edited 2014-04-05 09:48:04]


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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3597 posts, RR: 66
Reply 93, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 57450 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 92):
Any idea what "special VMCG" means?

Don't know what makes it "special", but judging by the rudder position, it is an engine inoperative takeoff. Perhaps the Vmcg Cert test?



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User currently onlineCrimsonChin From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2014, 215 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 57145 times:

That's sooner than expected for MSN4? Thought it was meant to be on the ground for 2 weeks, it's just been 8 days I think

User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 55966 times:

Confirmation that the 'polar' flight took place...

http://www.aero.de/news-19359/Ein-Be...ei-den-Flugtestern-von-Airbus.html



It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineUnflug From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 542 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 55796 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 95):
Confirmation that the 'polar' flight took place...

See reply 75:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 75):
MSN2 North Pole flight confirmed by Airbus.

Unfortunately both articles in German only.


User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 55543 times:

Quoting Unflug (Reply 96):

Apologies, been busy over the weekend and got the link from ....

http://www.bloga350.blogspot.ie/2014...totype-made-north-pole-flight.html

...so I thought it was new information   



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 98, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 54924 times:

AIB16CF airborne now.

http://fr24.com/AIB16CF



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 99, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 54901 times:

Coming back to TLS?

Quiet day otherwise on the flying front.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 100, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 54823 times:

Nearly 200 flight hours are scheduled for the route proving flights.

http://www.air-cosmos.com/2014/04/07...msn5-prendra-l-air-en-mai-prochain



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 101, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 54493 times:

A bit more on the long flight cabin testing:

http://www.ausbt.com.au/airbus-to-la...ch-a350-world-tour-later-this-year

Quote:
"The test engineers say this is where they like to play around and really cause problems. So they’ll take the inflight entertainment system down and see how the cabin crew can handle it, how they can fix it."



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 102, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 54682 times:

A nice close-up of the A350 undercarriage:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/13698021514/



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (8 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 54473 times:

3 photos oh AIB16CF arriving from XFW !

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7352/13699838274_6704029de3_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2826/13699514793_6e822d3d7e_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3792/13699837924_5f71ab1fcc_c.jpg


User currently offlineUA767400 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 53970 times:

Will the A350 make an appearance in the US anytime soon for testing?

User currently offlineUnflug From Germany, joined Jan 2012, 542 posts, RR: 2
Reply 105, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 53758 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 104):
Will the A350 make an appearance in the US anytime soon for testing?

Yes, next month for cold weather testing in Florida.

Not joking: McKinley Climatic Laboratory at Eglin Air Force Base  


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 106, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 53409 times:

Quoting UA767400 (Reply 104):

Besides what Unflug said, that the 350 will fly to Florida soon, I also expect some US destinations during this "World Tour" mentioned in this article http://www.ausbt.com.au/airbus-to-la...ch-a350-world-tour-later-this-year posted by Karel in reply 101

Potential candidates I suspect are UA, AA, HA and maybe DL head office cities?? DL has the RFP open so it could be an opportunity to present the aircraft to them before a decision is made  
Some 200 hours have been planned for these Route Proving flights, so there is plenty of time for many visits, I personally hope for AMS 

//Edit: just realized UA only has the -1000 on order of course... But maybe they still send the -900 their way  
//Edit2: Clearly not awake yet Big grin HA only has the -800, but they still need some persuasion to change to -900 :p

[Edited 2014-04-08 02:42:41]


A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3059 posts, RR: 23
Reply 107, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 53063 times:

Quoting starbucks (Reply 106):
Some 200 hours have been planned for these Route Proving flights, so there is plenty of time for many visits

TLS -ORD - ATL - DFW - HNL - TLS would do it and a nice long non-stop back to Europe.     

Rgds



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 108, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 52729 times:

MSN 1 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB59WB

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 52357 times:

AIB59WB , request take off on 32L fly till 25mn and back to ILS 14R but not realised...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3758/13718616144_e0cb653dd0_c.jpg


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 52124 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 108):
MSN 1 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB59WB

Landed back in TLS at 17:31 UTC.


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2197 posts, RR: 4
Reply 111, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 52069 times:

Anyone have diagram of the internal structures of the 350 wing? I know it's probably proprietary.

I wonder this because the A350 wing seems not to flex as much as the 787. I wonder if this is a result of design philosophy or manufacturing techniques?

bt



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 112, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 52053 times:

This was covered elsewhere - maybe in tech ops. There is a different design philosophy. If you see the A350 flaps they are continuous. The control surfaces are further out at the wing tip. If the wing flexed as much as the 787 then you could get control reversal which would not be good. The 787 control surface is between the two flap elements.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 113, posted (8 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 52060 times:

Different design philosophy. Here are a few interesting threads about the subject:

Boeing Vs. Airbus Wing Design Philosophies (by ferpe Apr 16 2012 in Tech Ops)
A350: Where Is The Wing Flex? (by faro Jun 14 2013 in Tech Ops)



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 51412 times:

MSN 3 is taxiing to the runway: http://fr24.com/AIB23GG

Edit: And took off!

[Edited 2014-04-09 01:18:35]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 51395 times:

GiGi is in the air as AIB23GG since 8:17 UTC.

User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 51269 times:

MSN 1 just appeared with callsign AIB60WB: http://fr24.com/AIB60WB

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 117, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 51080 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 116):
MSN 1 just appeared with callsign AIB60WB

with take-off at 9:18 UTC


User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 118, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 50553 times:

The 2 A350 departing this morning !

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2824/13736041185_d95b3193c3_c.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7140/13736083793_c205f85fec_c.jpg


User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 119, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 50240 times:

GiGi is up as AIB301

Www.fr24.com/AIB301 on FR24 MLAT again, flying NorthWest.... Ferry to Florida?  



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 50128 times:

Looks like she is doing a Filton fly past.

Scratch that - from FR24 GiGi has put down at Kemble aerodrome!

I wonder why?

[Edited 2014-04-09 09:38:51]

User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 50038 times:

Quoting StTim (Reply 120):

Airbus have tweeted an image of the 'A350XWB's first ever UK landing':

www.twitter.com/Airbus/status/453940328156786688

As StTim said, I wonder why?  



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 50056 times:

Airbus have also tweeted 'Great news! Our #A350 XWB has landed in the UK for the 1st time as part of the ongoing flight test'.
www.twitter.com/airbus/status/453934855903268865

GiGi will be in and out of Cotswold Airport throughout tomorrow.

What tests could be happening?

[Edited 2014-04-09 10:20:32]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 123, posted (8 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 49858 times:

Some nice footage of the MSN4 noise tests in Spain:

http://youtu.be/_jiF0sSwY9c?t=2m5s (video made by insightAVIATION)

http://oi60.tinypic.com/34g2hwx.jpg



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 124, posted (8 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 49044 times:

AIB61WB is in the air.

Doing touch and go's at TLS.

[Edited 2014-04-10 03:22:50]


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User currently offlineFlyingAY From Finland, joined Jun 2007, 713 posts, RR: 0
Reply 125, posted (8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 48854 times:

Can someone please summarize where we are currently (it would be great if the thread opening post would contain that summary actually)? I'm not following that closely, but it's an interesting topic!

How many hours have each of the planes flown? Which major tests are still pending and which are already completed? Is the test program on track for an EIS late this year? What's the latest comment coming from Airbus regarding the testing?

Thank you!

[Edited 2014-04-10 04:19:15]

User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1667 posts, RR: 7
Reply 126, posted (8 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 48719 times:

Quoting FlyingAY (Reply 125):
How many hours have each of the planes flown? Which major tests are still pending and which are already completed? Is the test program on track for an EIS late this year? What's the latest comment coming from Airbus regarding the testing?

This excellent sheet has most of the information you are requesting;

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 127, posted (8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 48656 times:

MSN 3 flew as FWZGG earlier, take off from Cotswold at 10:44 and landed at 13:28 UTC.

They may be wrong, could someone check?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 128, posted (8 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 48607 times:

MSN3 did hot fuel certification testing at Cotswold Airport.

http://www.airbus-group.com/airbusgr...s.20140410_airbus_a350_xwb_uk.html

Quote:
“This visit is part of the aircraft’s certification. Experts from the nearby Airbus Filton facility are playing a key role in supporting the fuel system tests.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/airbusgroup/13760025655/

[Edited 2014-04-10 08:29:53]


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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 129, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 48198 times:

AIB62WB back in TLS at 18:13 UTC after flying along the north coast of Spain.

Take-off was around 15:05 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-10 11:18:46]

User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 130, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 48128 times:

Quoting bobmuc (Reply 129):

I checked, there were a lot of clouds in that area with what looked like high tops, my guess would be ongoing natural icing trials...  

Also MSN3 is doing a second flight from the UK, flying as FWZGG



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 48060 times:

MSN 1 taking off today:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7216/13764347794_bae25de04b_b.jpg
F-WXWB Airbus Industrie Airbus A350-941 - cn 001 von Flox Papa auf Flickr

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/13764009603_195b55644e_b.jpg
F-WXWB Airbus Industrie Airbus A350-941 - cn 001 von Flox Papa auf Flickr


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 132, posted (8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 48040 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 123):
Some nice footage of the MSN4 noise tests in Spain:

http://youtu.be/_jiF0sSwY9c?t=2m5s (video made by insightAVIATION)

The video also confirms VMU tests have been done in March.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/42kjd.jpg



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 47231 times:

This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Maybe they should send her into Lukla next!  



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User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1667 posts, RR: 7
Reply 134, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 47007 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Wow, that was awesome!!!!



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 47023 times:

As per FR24 GiGi is on the way back to TLS from Cotswold as AIB301.

Take-off approx. 13:55 UTC.

[Edited 2014-04-11 07:23:29]

User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 136, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 47012 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 134):
http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

WOW! How did GiGi know where the camera is positioned?  


User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 137, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46789 times:

AIB63WB on the move.

Also MSN4 active but no callsign at the moment.

Edit: Now callsign AIB4R4

[Edited 2014-04-11 08:23:20]

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 138, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46807 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Does the A350 qualify as STOL?   


User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46688 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 137):
AIB63WB on the move.

With only 1 1/2 h missing to reach 60% (or 1.500h) of the total planned flight test time, WB will probably make this milestone very easily today!


User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46671 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):
This video is really quite amazing, it shows GiGi landing at Cotswold and coming to a halt in around ~15 seconds!

http://youtu.be/rqSTVWw7twU

Looks like a very firm touchdown. Rocking back and forth after it stopped. Were the reversers being used until full stop or were they just open? Is that brake smoke in front of the bogie after the stop?
Edit: Actually, it looks like the smoke is coming from the reverser.

[Edited 2014-04-11 09:05:16]

User currently offlinepugman211 From UK - England, joined exactly 2 years ago today! , 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 46625 times:
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Looks like the oil venting from the engine.

If WB was empty and brakes on full, would be quite easy to stop so quickly.


User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 142, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 46548 times:

MSN 3 just appeared with callsign FWZGG again: http://fr24.com/FWZGG

User currently offlinehivue From United States of America, joined Feb 2013, 1114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 143, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 46517 times:

Quoting pugman211 (Reply 141):
If WB was empty and brakes on full, would be quite easy to stop so quickly.

I'm curious if they used full reverse right up to stopping.


User currently offlinePart147 From Ireland, joined Dec 2008, 529 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 46222 times:

Quoting EK17 (Reply 133):

Wow!

She caught the 'third wire' beautifully!   


And here she is taking from the UK...

http://youtu.be/-0-2t9n-qOY

[Edited 2014-04-11 12:13:44]


It's better to ask a stupid question during training, rather than make a REALLY stupid mistake later on!
User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 46059 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 144):

     



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User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 45998 times:

Quoting Part147 (Reply 144):
And here she is taking from the UK...

What a beautiful sound those engines make!



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User currently offlinebobmuc From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 45934 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 137):
AIB63WB on the move.

Back at home at 19:45 UTC.

-> A350XWB flight test program has passed 1.500 hour of flying!!!


User currently offlineEK17 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2013, 221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 148, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 45870 times:

AIB63WB Takeoff:

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3703/13782132775_13f49df496_o_d.jpg


AIB301 Landing back in TLS:

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7201/13782121035_63c0902818_o_d.jpg



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User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1584 posts, RR: 3
Reply 149, posted (8 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 45531 times:

Quoting hivue (Reply 140):
Edit: Actually, it looks like the smoke is coming from the reverser.

No, its coming from an oil pipe under the engine, its a feature of the Trent XWB when on the ground at idle.



BV
User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1735 posts, RR: 8
Reply 150, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 43720 times:

No flight today? What's happening? It has been so much clockwork recently…

User currently offlineAngMoh From Singapore, joined Nov 2011, 504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 151, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 43036 times:

Quoting Aircellist (Reply 150):
No flight today? What's happening? It has been so much clockwork recently…

Everyone gone on holidays for Easter?


User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 43132 times:

MSN 1 is already in the air for a while: http://fr24.com/AIB65WB Currently at 30,000ft and 457 kt .

User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 153, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 42877 times:

MSN 4 also took off, after being on thr ground for more than 3 weeks: http://fr24.com/AIB24NW

User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 154, posted (8 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 42516 times:

Face to face with WB !
AIB56WB ready for take off this mroning

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3675/13869723075_f4dddfaf00_c.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/13870113774_282ebf2727_c.jpg


User currently offlinesturmovik From India, joined May 2007, 515 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 41455 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 128):
MSN3 did hot fuel certification testing at Cotswold Airport.

Karel, do you have more info on what exactly is done during hot fuel certification tests ?

Quoting bycac (Reply 154):

Face to face with WB !

She does look imposing! Thanks for the regular photo updates, Clement!  



'What's it doing now?'
User currently offlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 156, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 41251 times:

AIB25NW is doing low-level circuits to the West of Tarbes.

http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB25NW


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 157, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 40935 times:

Quoting sturmovik (Reply 155):
Karel, do you have more info on what exactly is done during hot fuel certification tests ?

I'm guessing the aircraft needs to refuel while the engines are running.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 158, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 40392 times:

MSN4 today:

msn4 16/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr

AIB26NW 16/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 40307 times:

And other !

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7066/13894549634_bb4ea94a8a_c.jpg

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/13894134455_de5716b4a2_c.jpg


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 160, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 40089 times:

Next flight for MSN2:

http://fr24.com/AIB17CF



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 161, posted (8 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 39940 times:

MSN2 just finished a few loops:

http://oi62.tinypic.com/2yx5i52.jpg



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 162, posted (8 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 39089 times:

Four test flights today: AIB66WB, AIB67WB, AIB18CF and AIB27NW.

And MSN2 is now online as AIB1234.



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User currently offlinebycac From France, joined Mar 2010, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (8 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 38988 times:

AIB66WB and AIB18CF on take off this morning :

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2902/13910680544_f28f283736_c.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5075/13910261285_4eb351b2ba_c.jpg


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 164, posted (8 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 38713 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 162):
Four test flights today: AIB66WB, AIB67WB, AIB18CF and AIB27NW.

And we have a 5th flight:

http://fr24.com/AIB28NW



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 165, posted (8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 37922 times:

Summary from yesterday's flights:

> MSN1: flew about 9h29m in two flights
> MSN2: flew about 2 hours
> MSN4: flew about 6h40m in two flights

That's good for a total of ~ 18 hours.

For today, MSN4 just departed from TLS and AIB68WB is lining-up:

http://fr24.com/AIB29NW
http://fr24.com/AIB68WB



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 166, posted (8 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 37538 times:

MSN3 airborne as well:

http://fr24.com/AIB30GG



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 167, posted (8 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 37390 times:

MSN2 is also flying:

http://fr24.com/AIB19CF

All four A350s will have flown today.



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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 168, posted (8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 37011 times:

We have both AIB30NW and AIB69WB in the air for their second flights for today. Intense flying last two days.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 169, posted (8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 36946 times:

Quoting poolkeeper (Reply 168):
Intense flying last two days.

I guess that's because there will be no flights on Monday (holiday).



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User currently offlineinsightAVIATION From Germany, joined Dec 2013, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 170, posted (8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 36920 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 169):

But isn't there already today?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 171, posted (8 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 36927 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 170):
But isn't there already today?

Many companies are only closed on Easter Monday.



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User currently offlinebobdino From Australia, joined Jan 2013, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 172, posted (8 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 36755 times:

Quoting insightAVIATION (Reply 170):
But isn't there already today?

It's not a holiday in France today except, I think, for Alsace.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 173, posted (8 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 36565 times:

Face to face with MSN1:


Airbus A350-941 msn 001 by dn280tls, on Flickr



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User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 174, posted (8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 35782 times:

MSN 3 producing some smoke from the right engine, the photographer mentions that its an engine start:

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5288/13934014045_9c1d764359_b.jpgmsn3 19/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 175, posted (8 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 35693 times:

GG is currently showing as having 597 hours under her belt. Only 3 hours left to the unofficial target for this test frame.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 176, posted (8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 35089 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 174):
MSN 3 producing some smoke from the right engine, the photographer mentions that its an engine start:

Indeed, the engine was off during takeoff as this picture shows:


msn3 19/4/2014 by A380_TLS_A350, on Flickr



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User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 177, posted (8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 35343 times:

Looks like a full engine out take off. Certification progress continues.

Do we know is any formal cross wind landing testing has been undertaken yet?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 178, posted (8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 35309 times:

No news about cross wind landings yet.

MSN1 did natural ice tests on Friday.

[Edited 2014-04-20 02:56:46]


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User currently offlinestarbucks From Netherlands, joined Feb 2013, 779 posts, RR: 6
Reply 179, posted (8 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 34204 times:

And AIB33GG concluded with 3 hrs making exactly 600/600 hrs now acc. to my administration...

Let us see what happens now, maybe Airbus has changed priorities and MSN3 will continue to fly...  



A350 logbook: http://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlVgPnmHLOovdFdzbVlyQzhYNDhCb1VFN1RkYXkwV3c&output=html
User currently onlineStTim From UK - England, joined Aug 2013, 841 posts, RR: 0
Reply 180, posted (8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 33891 times:

I am sure it will contiue to fly  

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 181, posted (8 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 33928 times:

It will, MSN3 has yet to complete the extreme temperature tests in Florida, and the hot weather campaign in the Middle East.


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User currently offlinepoolkeeper From Panama, joined Nov 2013, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 182, posted (8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 33638 times:

Anyone knows how many hours has been added to test program for testing NiCd battery system?

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 13114 posts, RR: 35
Reply 183, posted (8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33540 times:

Video of MSN3 takeoff with 1 engine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/f-alex_alexis_charroud/13949549822/



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User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 184, posted (8 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33427 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 183):

Thanks for sharing that, what an odd thing to watch...was that video slowed down do you think, I'm guessing it was...also I wonder why the landing gear was lowered again after starting the engine



Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)