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TK To DFW. Any Chance?  
User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 633 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3436 times:

My adopted home airport seems to be doing quite well with international expansion. TK does fly to IAH (no DFW vs. IAH on this thread, please). How about DFW?

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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 8282 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Not a chance. They are doing poorly in IAH as far as fares goes go. They would do worse here.

The expansion comes off the Gulf carriers which have extensive India service. Thats what DFW feeds. TK doesnt have extensive India service.



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User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

That's what I was thinking, but given TK's willingness to go everywhere at no cost..

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28455 posts, RR: 50
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3270 times:

No plans for DFW.

Regarding IAH, its actually shaping up to be a good station. Recently it was announced in internal newsletter it had the strongest advanced premium bookings of US stations.



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User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Not a chance. They are doing poorly in IAH as far as fares goes go. They would do worse here.

The expansion comes off the Gulf carriers which have extensive India service. Thats what DFW feeds. TK doesnt have extensive India service.

Agree. No Star feed would have TK dead on arrival as well.


User currently offline777Jet From Australia, joined Mar 2014, 5124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3204 times:

One day, yes. In the near future, no.


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User currently offlineTWA772LR From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 3531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

I think the Texas-Middle East market is a little over saturated at the moment. It seems like the only room left is for EY at IAH.
Breakdown:
IAH: EK, TK, QR
DFW: EK, QR, EY

Slightly OT, who does the ground handling for TK in IAH?



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28455 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3086 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 6):
Slightly OT, who does the ground handling for TK in IAH?

Menzies.



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User currently offlineirishayes From Israel, joined Jan 2008, 2487 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

Turkish has lower-hanging fruit in the Americas before DFW. My guess would be that SFO will be next on their priority list. I also am wondering when they will venture into DTW, which would be a great fit for an older A332 variant.


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User currently offlinemiaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

I wonder if TK would go to MIA?

User currently offlineIAHflyer97 From United States of America, joined Jun 2013, 740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

I'm sure they will eventually. But not for foreseeable future.


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User currently offlinesaigonhouston From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 398 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2767 times:

Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):

It doesn't mean that your home airport will get what IAH have. Think outside of the box!


User currently offlineSurfandsnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2993 posts, RR: 29
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
My guess would be that SFO will be next on their priority list.

   The San Francisco Bay Area is the largest U.S. market without TK service, and SFO is a major alliance/codeshare partner hub to boot - lots of connectivity, and more importantly many loyal Star Alliance FFers. Given that SFO is a much better place to connect than LAX or ORD, I think SFO would quickly become the preferred TK gateway to and from the Western U.S.

Quoting irishayes (Reply 8):
I also am wondering when they will venture into DTW

I didn't even think of DTW, but it could be a great niche market despite the lack of a partner FFer base/hub connectivity. TK's IST hub is perfectly situated to serve Detroit's Arab American communities (primarily of Iraqi, Jordanian, Lebanese, Palestinian, Syrian, and Yemeni descent), whereas the Persian Gulf carriers would require rather significant backtracking for such travelers. However, given how dangerous Iraq, Lebanon, Syria, and Yemen are these days I doubt there are many American citizens/residents visiting those countries for any reason, whilst Jordan and Palestine are already served by the established RJ service. Maybe there wouldn't be much of an opportunity for TK after all?



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User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2621 times:

Quoting Surfandsnow (Reply 12):
The San Francisco Bay Area is the largest U.S. market without TK service, and SFO is a major alliance/codeshare partner hub to boot - lots of connectivity, and more importantly many loyal Star Alliance FFers. Given that SFO is a much better place to connect than LAX or ORD, I think SFO would quickly become the preferred TK gateway to and from the Western U.S.

I'm one of the biggest SFO homers around and I'd love to see a TK tail at the Intl. Terminal but is the PDEW to TurkeyPalestine large enough? Sure SFO is great for connections, but with LAX already having TK that takes a hit on the West Coast connection feed into SFO. I don't know how much feed SFO can generate for this flight from inbound domestic flights from the east.

Still the day it happens will be great news. SFO officials have been dragging their heels on new foreign airline startups compared to the other US major gateways recently.

[Edited 2014-03-26 22:36:36]

User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 6):
I think the Texas-Middle East market is a little over saturated at the moment.

..and it still remains to be seen if one of those ME3 carriers will be the odd one out when the dust settles.


User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6374 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2570 times:

Quoting Surfandsnow (Reply 12):
The San Francisco Bay Area is the largest U.S. market without TK service, and SFO is a major alliance/codeshare partner hub to boot - lots of connectivity, and more importantly many loyal Star Alliance FFers. Given that SFO is a much better place to connect than LAX or ORD, I think SFO would quickly become the preferred TK gateway to and from the Western U.S.

Other then the LAX and ORD connection part, I'd agree I think SFO would have to be high on TK's radar. It could co-exist well with LAX like many other airlines do.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28455 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2280 times:

SFO will come, but it wont have much to do with feed or connections with United.

TK and UA don't play much as UA has its allegiance to LH and its A++ JV partners.



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User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9815 posts, RR: 24
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

Atlanta is #1 on the radar for Turkish Airlines right now.


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User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1032 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2160 times:

ATL is #1 on the radar for TK??? Really??? I would love it do not get me wrong but I thought that there were more cities that would see TK before or ever ATL. I know that there was discussion in the past of extending the IAD to ATL but it never happened.


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User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 17):
Atlanta is #1 on the radar for Turkish Airlines right now.

According to who? I see SFO and MIA WAY before ATL is even thought of. Even DTW may see a TK bird before ATL.


User currently offlineiah59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1778 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):

Not a chance. They are doing poorly in IAH as far as fares goes go. They would do worse here.

I work at Turkish Airlines we do really well.


User currently offlineadamh8297 From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 1895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1713 times:

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 19):

According to who? I see SFO and MIA WAY before ATL is even thought of. Even DTW may see a TK bird before ATL.


Though I do not think it is a good idea: ATL has been mentioned as a future TK destination.

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User currently offlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 8282 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1673 times:

Quoting iah59 (Reply 20):
I work at Turkish Airlines we do really well.

You're fares are terrible.



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User currently offlineSFOA380 From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1662 times:

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 13):
m one of the biggest SFO homers around and I'd love to see a TK tail at the Intl. Terminal but is the PDEW to TurkeyPalestine large enough?

I think there will be massive market stimulation...


User currently offlineiah59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1615 times:

Turkish Airlines from IAH gets more passengers towards Iran, Israel, Africa, Middleast, South Asia, Turkey, and, Europe. We get a couple of PAX going to Far/ Southeast Asia.

User currently offlineFastphilly From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 244 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1623 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 22):
You're fares are terrible.

Just looked up some fares this spring for a IAH-DEL and TK is $300 more than QR. Any other airline choice with 1 stop connections are on average $200 cheaper with the exception of BA at $100 cheaper.

So what's the deal? Is TK having trouble filling the back of the plane or is it a lack of premium seats sold? Those higher fares are an attempt to offset the cost somewhere?

[Edited 2014-03-27 17:13:14]

User currently offlineiah59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

Everyday our business is full and Economy comfort lacks but, economy does strong, a lot of last minute customers. We get alot more customers going towards eastern europe and Middle east/ Africa versus South Asia in South Asia mainly Pakistan then India.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28455 posts, RR: 50
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 25):
Is TK having trouble filling the back of the plane
TK's average IAH LF was 81% in 2013. Quite decent ramp up since having launched in April.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 25):
or is it a lack of premium seats sold?

Like I mentioned in earlier post, IAH has the strongest premium advanced bookings of US stations for TK.

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 25):
Those higher fares are an attempt to offset the cost somewhere?

Its called making money !

[Edited 2014-03-27 17:37:08]


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User currently offlineiah59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 472 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1484 times:

we get a lot of also last minute upgrade to business and comfort class as well.

User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9815 posts, RR: 24
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 1466 times:

Quoting Fastphilly (Reply 19):
According to who?
Quoting globalflyer (Reply 18):
ATL is #1 on the radar for TK??? Really???

yes. Hamdi Topçu has been very vocal about Atlanta. CNN-Turk interview on Feb. 27.

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 22):
fares are terrible.

the fares are amazing.  



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