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Good Thing: Viasa Seems Still Alive!  
User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1509 times:

After some months of rest, some very nice people decided that it was the time to remember us a carrier that is still flying in the skies of the history: Viasa.


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The Venezuelan planes of Viasa used to touch at Zurich - Kloten.


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If past times, if somebody wanted to go to Frankfurt could choose Viasa and its Dc10's. Now Lan Chile makes this long trip a wonderful trip.


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1980-1990: do you want to go to Miami? Immediately? No problem, Pan Am (the world most experienced airline: another Lady of the Skies) and Viasa send you there with their 747!!!
By early 1990's used to send its Dc10's to the Capital City of the Sunny State.

This is a very strange photo. Notice it:
There is a Viasa about to touch down and an Avensa taxing for the runway. Past and Present: Viasa is gone, Avensa is still here.
The problem is now that we don't know how much time more for... Let's hope the best for Avensa, Pan Am's daughter (1943).

See you around with other stories from the Venezuelan Aviation World!!!

Varghel
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



Varghel
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User currently offlineSouthernCRJ From Argentina, joined Sep 2001, 180 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1379 times:

It's very sad that Viasa isn't flying anymore  Sad
When I lived in Caracas, I flown with the Viasa DC-10's
many times between Maiquetía and Ezeiza... it was a very good company.

I remember myself seeing almost the whole Viasa fleet
going rusty in the open air in Maiquetía

I would love to see their DC-10's taking-off again in the near future... but it is extremaly unprobable.

Pd: sorry me about my bad english.

Regards


User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1364 times:

Hi SouthernCRJ,
I understand. Viasa, Aereolinas Argentinas, Lan Chile, Varig, Avianca, Avensa. Mainly these airlines have made the history of the American skies:
Argentines flying from Buenos Aires to the USA when nobody wasn't even thinking of it.
Lan Chile and Avianca between two seas. Varig elsewhere.

And Viasa. An original company, because it was founded when Aeropostal was flying to Madrid and Avensa to the USA. From the nithing it started flying DC-8's, Convair's between Caracas, New York, Amsterdam, Madrid, Rome, Lisboa. Thanks to KLM good teaching.
Then the DC-10's: the symbols of Viasa in my opinion. Just think that before ceasing operations, Viasa had already ordered MD-11's. Iberia stopped that order.
What followed is a bad history.

At Ezeiza you will probabaly have for very long time Viasa: is still stored there the Viasa DC-10 which went acquaplaning in early 1990's? I think so: it should be now just white coloured.
If you get around there you could take a photo of it.


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Can you see it? It looks so damaged...

Regards
Varghel



Varghel
User currently offlineJonPaulGeoRngo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1352 times:

Just out of curiosity, what are the United and American jets doing in the foreground? Layover until depature back to U.S.

On a side note: VIASA used to fly from Houston to Caracas via Aruba with A300 (I beleive)


User currently offlineSouthernCRJ From Argentina, joined Sep 2001, 180 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1346 times:

Hi Varghel,

I really have not idea of what happened to that DC-10.

As far as I can see from the highway when I go to Ezeiza it isn't there anymore.

Actually it's very difficult to go to that sector of the airport because the authorities are getting extremely obsessed with the security after the september 11th attack.

Cheers.


User currently offlineLatinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2709 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1331 times:


Yes, it's sad to remember that VIASA is no longer flying. Time just flies by. VIASA ceased operations in 1997. It's hard to believe that it's been 4 years since then.

It's really sad to say but Venezuela will never have another airline that will take VIASA's place. Avensa has done lousy flying to Europe. The only real hope is AeroPostal. Maybe if AeroPostal started flying to Madrid for starters they could do a much better job of representing Venezuela than what Avensa is doing.

Things are bad in this part of the region. It would be really sad if Avianca suffered the same fate as Avensa but it seems like this will also be the case for Avianca. The airline is loosing too much money and nobody in Colombia is doing anything to help her out. It's quite upsetting.

 Sad LatinPlane.


User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1332 times:

To JonPaulGeoRngo:
Hi,
when I first saw the photo I wondered the same thing. Then I considered that those United and American were just waiting for their night flight back to U.S. cities.

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In Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas makes the same: it arrives very early in the morning, it remains stored during all the day untill it is taken again to the terminal to receive passengers. Then it flies back to Buenos Aires via Bolivia.

Viasa flew A300's to New York, Paris and Santo Domingo in the Dominican Republic. Probabaly even to New Orleans and Houston as you in fact say, but I don't think via Aruba: it is just too near.

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Pan Am and Viasa: the two Ladies of the Sky.

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To SouthernCRJ:
Hi again,
don't worry, I thought it was so. Just if in the future you will have the possibility, remember me.
By the way, I read somewhere that Ezeiza has just a 2200 metres long runway: it does not look so in the photo (there are two runways). But in the Viasa DC-10 accident report it says that the runway was just 2200 metres long: is that possible?

Bye bye everybody, and thanks very much for your interest. ----> VIASA: LA LINEA AEREA DE VENEZUELA

Varghel



Varghel
User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1341 times:

Hi Latinplane,
unfortunately that's the realty. Fours yaears ago we have lost part of our country, of our being Venezuelans. Because Viasa was part of us.
Viasa was part of the "Gold Venezuela", that country in wich there were people who went to Miami and New York with the "Orinoco": one of two Viasa 747's.

Those time are, as you say, flown away. Since the early 1990's we were not so able to get to Miami so easy. We were changing in an extremely hard way.
That hard way is dramatically represented, in a way, ny Viasa: a good company wich, gaven to bad hands, went to bankrupcy. That's history.

We have hoped in Avensa. But now we just hope that Avensa can, at least, survive.

Aeropostal: that's a case.
They flew the Caracas-Madrid route untill 1961 when Viasa arrived. In 1994 the old LAV died to born again in the new Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela.
They are a private company and seem to be in goog economical position: their operation seem to be just the interest of the President and CEO Ramiz.
If his promesses will came true we will have:
- Aeropostal / Air Europa code sharing daily the Caracas - Madrid route with Boeing 767-300.
- Caracas - Cancun - Mexico from December on.
- 6 727 more.
- 22 DC-9 more.
- 12 SAB turbo 34B "helices" (do you know what are they?).

All this even the general crisis. Let's hope the best.

Varghel



Varghel
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6201 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1315 times:

I remember seeing the Viasa A300 at SJU, wow was that a colorfull bird. Sad to see such a good carrier go.
Chepos



Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Hello Varghel,

If you want to check pictures of the Viasa DC10 at Ezeiza check this site:

www.mayday7700.com

You can find the list of accidents or incidents including this Viasa flight back in 1993. It contains several photos of the remains of the aircraft.

LIMA


User currently offlineWiLdmanVzla From Mexico, joined Sep 2000, 616 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1299 times:

Varghel... let me tell you something: your topic almost made me cry!!!!!!

As a venezuelan (proud to be all the way) I really miss VIASA... it was a reaaly great company, a wonderful experience to fly with... anyway, you know what happened when it was sold to Iberia, so VIASA is just a great remind for some of us.

When I was living in Madrid, it was great to watch the VIASA's DC-10-30 on the tarmac, showing the name of our country... here in Mexico City there is not a venezuelan airline, just because of the agreement between Mexicana & Servivensa, but I really want to go from here to Venezuela with a venezuelan airline... .

I really miss my homeland... (by the way, I love Mexico so much!)... & I'm just dreaming about VIASA going back to the skies... .

Thank you pal for a wonderful topic!

WiLdmanVzla

*******


User currently offlineSouthernCRJ From Argentina, joined Sep 2001, 180 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1269 times:

Hi Varghel:

Ezeiza has 3 runways:
11-29:10829 ft
17-35:9302 ft
5-23:7214 ft


Actually, the runway 5-23 isn't operative

Regards


User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1258 times:

Hey everybody,
I do really thankyou for have joined me with this topic: for us Viasa has representated a lot. And our hopes look towards present and future.

Anyway, as we were talking about Viasa A300's, I have collected some examples: join them!!


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Miami

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Miami

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Miami

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New York

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New York

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Miami

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New York

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New York

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Houston

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Toronto

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Toronto

I see you around guys...

By the way, I'm sorry to say to Lima that the site www.mayday7700.com that you have gaven to me doesn't work. It is closed? That's a pity, anyway I will be checking.
Thanks guys!
Varghel



Varghel
User currently offlineVarghel From Italy, joined Sep 2001, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1250 times:

To Lima:
Thanks, very much: the site is very good, well done.
Varghel


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