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MIA Trying To Lure Asian Flights; JetBlue, Lowfare  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2354 times:

Now is not the best time to lure new airlines and routes, but when things get back to normal...

Miami-Dade to hire consultants to boost airport traffic

By Victor Cruz
Miami International Airport officials are hiring consultants in an effort to expand operations both internationally and domestically, said Miguel Southwell, assistant director of business development with Miami-Dade Aviation.
The consultants, he said, would "assist us in determining the passenger and cargo routes for possible air service between Miami and 26 different international destinations."
Mr. Southwell said the effort would mean Miami International would not only fight to maintain its dominance in Latin American and Caribbean travel, but officials are hoping to expand into new markets in Europe, Asia and Africa.
"That will be our focus for the next three years," he said.
With airplanes able to fly longer distances today, technology has become an important factor in the timing of the planned route expansion, Mr. Southwell said.
The process of studying the emerging markets will take "nine to 10 months," he said. Then airport officials will begin approaching representatives for the various airlines.
The expansion is not limited to the international market, Mr. Southwell said.
"We do intend to also market to the low-fare carrier segment of the air-travel market," he said. "That means JetBlue Airways, Southwest, Delta Express and others."
Delta now operates out of Miami International but its low-fare service does not.
AirTran Airways, operating out of Miami since Sept. 9, 1998, will expand operations next month.
Beginning Nov. 15, the Orlando-based, low-fare subsidiary of AirTran Holdings is offering three daily nonstops between Tallahassee and Tampa with continuing service to Miami, and three new daily nonstops between Tampa and Miami, said Tad Hutcheson, director of marketing.
He said tickets, already available for the Miami flights, range from a $49 introductory rates to $149 for business class.
AirTran received a shot in the arm when, with the help of Tallahassee Mayor Scott Maddox and Gov. Jeb Bush, the airline became the "preferred carrier for the Florida State government," Mr. Hutcheson said.
The added flights were in discussion for about a year, he said. He said Aviation Department Director Angela Gittens played "a huge role" in bringing the added flights to Miami.
AirTran officials met with the director, representatives of the Beacon Council and the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce, and the Greater Miami Convention & Visitors Bureau in August to seal the relationship that led to the new flights, Mr. Hutcheson said.
Mr. Southwell said any increased service would fuel the Miami-area economy in a number of ways. Among them, he said, are more jobs for locals in a variety of sectors, an infusion of dollars caused by the hiring out of services and increased tax revenues.
"And we know that the new establishment of direct air service between two points causes a marked increase in the trade that follows," Mr. Southwell said. "In a very short time, between nine months to a year, you will see companies from the new destinations and Miami conducting business here. The reverse is also true."
jetBlue and Southwest already have large operations at FLL and serve the Miami area well. Not happening, obviously.

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 1, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

Here are some of those 26 destinations:

Guadalajra, Monterrey, Barcelona, Sevilla, Rome, Brussels, Manchester, Cape Town, Johannesburg, Dublin, Shannon, Helsinki, Copehagen, Iquitos, Cordoba*, Salvador (Brazil), Iquique

Also, replace one-stop service to Tokyo, Asuscio, Montevideo, and Tel Aviv with non-stop.

*Cordoba flights are well in the works and prior to 9/11 were supposed to start around December. That may be delayed.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6383 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Air Namibia was looking to start nonstop serivce into Miami from Windhoek a couple of yours ago.

Fly the Flag!!!!
User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2232 times:

Well they need any help they can get. They have lost business to ATL and FLL for several years now. If you click here: http://www.miami-airport.com/html/monthly_traffic_report.html

You will notice that MIA has seen a drop in passenger boardings. FLL, MCO, and ATL, have seen increased numbers. FLL (just 25 miles away) has been the fastest growing airport in the US over the last several years and DL has taken away Latin America traffic.

IMO MIA has seen it's better days. Alliances will route their traffic to Latin America over partner hubs. For instance AF and AZ will add service to ATL rather than add service to MIA. CO (when they finally get into an alliance) will route their partners traffic via IAH.

User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

MIA really needs to fix that place up. I'm aware of AA's big construction there, but the terminal itself is really outdated. I could almost touch the ceiling as I'm walking down the main concourse...and yes, the interior is adorned with exposed electrical wires from ceiling and walls. Hopefully, all that work (which seems to be taking forever) is worth the wait and people of South Florida ends up with an airport worthy of the size of the market it serves.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 5, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Padcrasher, you have no idea what you are talking about. MIA traffic is not growing like other airports because of a new $5.4B airport being built on top of the current one. This is severley limiting passenger growth, and it's a pain building an all-new airport on top of an older one. The new MIA will not open until 2005, but when it does it will include a 59-gate oneWorld terminal (450+ flights a day) and 28-gate Star Alliance terminal (80+ flights a day). First off, please keep in mind Air France has had double-daily MIA service since the start of last year's summer schedule (depending on time of year it is either double daily 744 or daily 744/343) and remains double-daily for the winter, Atlanta is daily (not including DL codeshare's, of course). Alitalia has daily service to Miami. Miami's trans-Atlantic traffic relies heavily on O&D, and Air France and Alitalia have always been happy at MIA for over 10 years now. British Airways has been at MIA for over 25 years, Lufthansa for over 20 years, not to mention Iberia maintains a hub in Miami. And if you think that DL is actually going to hurt American to Latin America, you have something else coming. They won't. AA is not at all worried about any "threat" from DL. AA serves 30 cities and counting in Latin America, including many not served by DL (such as La Paz, Guayquil, Barranquilla, Cali, Maracaibo, Santa Cruz, Montevideo, Asuscion, and San Pedro Sula), and many which rely a lot on O&D traffic. And mostly all these flights are at more than one daily frequency (Caracas is 5 flights a day; I want to see ATL or IAH support that, because they can't). Atlanta does not have the O&D that Miami has to Latin America. Miami will always be #1 to Latin America, and as the hub to the Latin ops of three airlines - United, American, and Iberia - they are not worried. FLL is taking away some domestic traffic, yes, but it's all for the better (incase you didn't know, it is domestic traffic, not international, that has dropped). It makes MIA less congested and Miamians, including myself, perfer FLL for it's cheaper fares, better frequencies (departures to NYC about every 15 minutes during the business day), and less congestion. Miami wants to build a third airport to better suit domestic travel needs for Miamians. Also, another destination they are looking at is Warsaw, which LOT was supposedly going to announce pre-9/11 as part of thier long-haul expansion. ATL and IAH pose zero threat to Miami's expansion. MIA has hubs for the world's two largest alliances and a greater international O&D market than either Houston or Atlanta.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 6, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

watewate, yes, it is incredibly annoying that it is taking so long, but the method the "new" MIA is being built, on top of the old MIA, slows it down. I'll find pics of the new MIA. With the exception of the Star Alliance terminal, which has begun construction, it is all being built on top of existing structures. The new runway, which will ease congestion, is well underway, and should open around early 2003. One terminal, incase you have not seen it, is new and open, and a great, modern, wide, tall, and airy terminal. Concourse H, which is used mainly by Delta and USAirways.

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2204 times:


Suprising seeing you on this thread. I seem to have struck a nerve.

Thanks for the break down of who flys where. If you will go back over my post you will notice that I'm talking about the lack of growth MIA has under gone, not who's bigger than who.

I went back over the MIA airport website and Year over Year traffic figures are down in not only 2001 and 2000, but also 1999 and 1998. Four and half years of declining traffic numbers. You're going to blame this all on the new terminal? If so by 2005 MIA numbers will really suck.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

Padcrasher, you make it sound as if the drops in traffic are drastic. They are not. The drops are as small as .82%! That is nothing to worry about. MIA is limited in expansion right now because of on-going projects and that is just the way it is going to be for now. The new runway will help numbers grow when it opens in 2003. Most of the growth will come from AA's plan to increase service at MIA by more than 65% of the current schedule of about 190 jet flights to 330 jet flights, including making Miami thier number one trans-Atlantic gateway (new terminal is dubbed the American Airlines International Worldport/Gateway), plus increase Eagle operations by a substantial amount. Of course, FLL is also taking away traffic from the domestic end, which is not a bad thing at all, because it really helps ease congestion at Miami and, while not convientely located 10 minutes from downtown like MIA, FLL is very well positioned to serve all of South Florida, and they have thier own international expansion plans (they want Bogota, Mexico City, Maracaibo, London, and Paris).

User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8360 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2183 times:

I think MIA will do quite well once the economy improves.

There are these reasons why MIA will do well:

1. New terminals completed by 2005 that will substantially add passenger handling capacity.

2. MIA is a major O&D operation. After all, many people from Latin America like to go to Miami first, given the strong presence of AA with its many Latin American routes and many Latin American airlines flying to MIA. People forget that there are massively large expatriate communities of South Americans living in the Miami area. Also, because Miami is also the home port to the largest number of cruise ships in the world, it means anyone going to the majority of Caribbean cruises will fly to MIA first.

User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 10, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Chepos, I did not know that. A little more research, however, shows it was sooner than a few years ago. They applied for flights to Miami, Houston, Atlanta, and JFK in the summer of 2000. Air Namibia at MIA would be really nice. It would probably work, but only if the flight were paired with another city. Weekly Windohek-Miami-Houston? That would be really nice and may work. Miami is a big leisure destination for Africans (yes, people in Africa take vacations, because I just know someone is going to respond saying they don't) and Houston has strong business ties with Africa (Miami does too, not as strong as Houston, though). Africa is going to become a gold mine down the line (it already is a gold mine for European carriers) as travel between the US and Africa grows (slowly but surely), and I hope Miami can use it's geographic position to position itself as a future hub to Africa. It could happen.

User currently offlineFly_ATA From United States of America, joined May 2001, 616 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

ATA to Offer Daily Service From Chicago-Midway to Miami And From Miami to San Juan Beginning Nov. 16

INDIANAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 11, 2001--Last May, ATA (American Trans Air, Inc.)(Nasdaq:AMTR) announced plans to launch service between Chicago-Midway and Miami, and Miami and San Juan. The carrier today reaffirmed plans to introduce two daily roundtrip flights to and from these cities beginning November 16, 2001. Flights will operate as a one-stop service between Chicago and San Juan complementing existing non-stop service.
"We are delighted to reaffirm our commitment to our customers by providing the new Chicago-Miami-San Juan service," said Don Moonjian, ATA Vice President of Marketing. "ATA has seen much customer demand for this particular route and San Juan is a very popular destination."

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11200 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Aircraft movement in MIA has dropped 6.3% since June.......

Lately MIA has been dropping, probably due to the poor economy now. I'm sure it will pick up when the economy picks up.


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineMah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34610 posts, RR: 70
Reply 13, posted (14 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

MIA's pre-9/11 drop is more due to FLL's gains than the economy.

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