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Alitalia's Fleet Plans  
User currently offlineGundu From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1676 times:

Is Alitalia going to buy like a 744 or something to replace its 742's?Also tell me more about New Air..

Some things to ponder about.......


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User currently offlineFlyAA757 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1031 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

According to AZ's website, the airline has ordered 5 B747-443s, but this order has yet to be confirmed by Boeing.
New Air? Do you mean JetBlue?

User currently offlineMD 11 From Germany, joined Sep 1999, 196 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1536 times:

Is it true, that Alitalia will perhaps buy 15 Boeing 717???
Anyone have informations about it?
Would be great.

User currently offlineNick_aga From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1526 times:

Alitalia ordered 5 B747-400s a couple of months ago, as part of a bigger order, together with its partner KLM. Remember that AZ's thrice weekly MXP-SIN-SYD rotation is operated by KLM's 744s, because AZ has no suitable equipment to do so.


User currently offlineFlying-tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4198 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1510 times:

Alitalia has ordered 5 747-400 during the Aerosalon this year together with an order for 6 ERJ-145 plus 10 options. They haven´t ordered the 744 together with KLM!!! And concerning the 717 rumour: this is not likely to become true. They already have a large AI fleet consisting of A320/321 and the A318 would be the most likely addition together with some A319. The next big fleet decisions will be how the MD-11 will be replaced. This order will be made together with KLM and probably Northwest. At the moment they consider the 330-200/-300 and 340-300/-500/-600 and the 767-400 777-200(X)/-300(X). It seems as if the busses are prefered.

http://fly.to/rorders (you can find a complete ERJ-145 customer list on this site)

Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 13271 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1509 times:

As Flying Tiger said, I don't see the 717 as a likelihood, in that their smallest aircraft now is an MD80, the DC9s having gone. If they did buy a 100-120 seater, they would probably choose with commonality with their existing narrowbody fleet, which is A320s and A321s. The MD80s will eventually make way for the A320s/321s (possibly 319s as well).
The long haul fleet will be the 747-400s (possibly a few more as well, and don't rule out a freighter either, although they may go with Atlas for that) and a mixture of A340-5/600s and A330s, which would replace the leased 767s.
KLM is also close to a replacement of its medium - long haul fleet and I imagine the delay is due to the negotiations/discussions with Alitalia. I would forecast a joint order for about 35-40 A340-5/600s and 15-20 A330-200s, between the two.

User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4198 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (16 years 6 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1505 times:

To many 340-500/-600s. KLM is supposed to take about 12 so I would reduce totals to about 20-25. The 330-200/-300 number seems likely to me.


Flown: A319/320/321,A332/3,A380,AT4,AT7,B732/3/4/5/7/8,B742/4,B762/763,B772,CR2,CR7,ER4,E70,E75,F50/70,M11,L15,S20
User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (16 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1488 times:

I don't know, KLM has always been devoutly MDD, and then Boeing. The only Airbus aircraft ever operated were the A310-200, which left the fleet in 1996, which were ordered (I think) due to the Dutch Gov't early interests in Airbus. I don't see KLM buying Airbus in the future. Although, with KLM's main partners (NWA and ALITALIA) both buying some Airbus, an order could be possible, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


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