RL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4897 posts, RR: 10 Posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2024 times:
I have heard from several sources that Southwest Airlines is beging to look into Albany NY. I had heard that looked into Allentown PA but they did not have the facilities to offer. Aside from Albany my bet would be with either Richmond or Norfolk. Any ideas?
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Boeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
Southwest started service here in Hartford Oct. 31, and I've heard the loads have been phenominal. I hope to try them soon.
As for the next city, Albany makes sense, but it lacks a certain population base WN looks for. (Many Albany residents are making the two-hour drive here to BDL to catch flights). I figure they're going for another New York City-area location. Maybe Stewart Airport, but that lacks the right facilities.
How about Trenton? Close to Philly, with facilities, and within an easy drive to NYC?
ATA757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1726 times:
Fort Wayne...has the facilities, but do you think it would go over very well? I think it would...FWA is about 2-2 1/2 hours from Indianapolis, and it is pretty much isolated with a farely large population!
Matt D From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 9502 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1725 times:
I'm truly amazed that Southwest doesn't serve Fresno, CA. Located right in the heart of CA. City growing like a weed, and all air service is with assorted Brasilias, Saab 340's, and a couple of CRJ's. Then, American has 1 or 2 MD-80 flights to Dallas. There is a tremendous amount of road traffic between Fresno and the LA/SF areas. Also, a lot of folks from Fresno would like to get service to LAS, since it is an 8 hour drive from there. I would bet that if WN came in with flights to LAS, LAX and SJC, they would make a fortune. I know I would fly them. I drive to Fresno several times a year to visit family, and that drive is a pain in the a**.
OPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1721 times:
SWA used to serve DEN (Stapleton) back in the mid-1980s, but pulled out a couple of years later. Stapleton was very prone to big ATC delays from not-so-bad weather (runways too close together for simultaneous use), and the effect to the rest of the SWA system was adverse.
Morris Air had Colorado service (from SLC) but that was discontinued once SWA acquired them in the mid -1990s. Then, as now, the operating costs at the new DIA/DEN airport were just plain prohibitive. COS continues to be a rumored destination, but so are a hundred other cities. Have to wait and see...
Eastern L1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 127 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1718 times:
I have heard that Southwest after the first of the year will announce where it decides to go in Western, New York. I heard that it was either going to be Buffalo and Syracuse (both) or Rochester. I would be thrilled to get Southwest here in Rochester.
AWA757 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1716 times:
It would be nice for Southwest to put up some competition to America West in COS. When I visit the fam in S. Colorado, I usually fly Southwest into ABQ because it's usually a cheaper fare than flying AWA into COS. Don't have a clue why they dont like Colorado.
HyperMike From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1001 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1711 times:
In reading this thread, I have a few thoughts:
Albany's terminal is expanding. I have a feeling that it's being prepared for a Southwest invasion.
Because I live in Philadelphia, I would be THRILLED to see Southwest come into Trenton. US Airways has a serious lock on the Philly market, and I think that Southwest would make a fortune by flying into either Trenton or Wilmington, DE. I would drive the 45 minutes to either Trenton or Wilmington to catch a Southwest flight.
Syracuse, Buffalo, and Albany have all been mentioned. These are all big markets for US Airways. Once again, Herb is thumbing his nose at Wolfe. GO HERB!!!
I'd love to see Southwest open up Pittsburgh. Do you know how many Pittsburghers drive 2 hours to catch cheaper flights from Cleveland? There are several open gates in Pittsburgh, and once again Herb could thumb his nose at Wolfe.
Mdsmith11 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 194 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1683 times:
I'm sure that SW doesn't have any grudges against the state of Colorado, it's just that their winter weather (snow+deice=delay) would have a difficult time being integrated into their system. They pride themselves on on-time departures and doing quick-turns all day long and I just can't see them moving into a city that knowing full well in advance that they will have numerous winter weather delays.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 9016 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1687 times:
Worcester would NOT be good for SWA. You have PVD, BDL, and MHT (all SWA airports) less than 1.5 hours away. A good idea is Burlington, VT. They are pretty small, with USAirways to PIT and PHL, and BEX to BOS, plus a few more destinations (CO to EWR). This would open up the market, and have people save on the 2 h drive to MHT or Montreal, or the 3 h drive to BOS.
Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2657 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (16 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1673 times:
After having read everyone's great posts, my bets are on a single western NY airport, centrally located. Sorry, but I don't know which city is most central!
Also, I would think either Norfolk or Newport News airports. The latter would be closer to Richmond also, if I'm not mistaken.
Are weather conditions that different in Denver and Colorado Springs, than in Salt Lake, where WN has operations? Perhaps this is a concession to the Morris Air people.
Yes they have flights into SFO (from either SAN or PHX), but most of their Bay Area flights are centered in OAK. Underutilized for many years, they've taken this airport and turned it into a viable, alternative hub with far fewer delays than SFO. Small wonder that cities are clamoring to be included on the short list to be added to the WN route system.
AKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2197 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (16 years 2 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1651 times:
I agree with HyperMike, Trenton, NJ would be perfect location for WN. Not only would it draw people from Philly but it's only an hour or so from Newark (and NYC is only a little further than that). I'm sure people would be more than willing to drive there, if nothing to escape the congestion at the ne NJ/NYC area airports. Also, hopefully they would give some competition to Continental (which has a hub at EWR).