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Security Going A Bit Too Far?  
User currently offlineDFW777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 41 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1278 times:

A co-worker sent me this interesting article:

http://www.citypaper.net/articles/101801/news.godfrey.shtml

Jeremy Murphy

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User currently offlineFly_emirates From United Arab Emirates, joined Oct 2000, 1046 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1108 times:

hmm..

thats stupid!
i mean if they did that for him and he is an American.. what do you expect..
i mean tightening security is a must, but not this stupid way


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

OK, boys and girls lets see if we can altogether say....."Police State!"

Sadly, only the beginning of things to come.


Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineJonathan L From United States of America, joined May 2001, 171 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1070 times:

So... United is no longer honoring tickets purchased on September 11th to people who carry books?

What a pile of crap.


User currently offlineNW-ELITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1068 times:

United should be punished for this.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6278 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

And I walked right past an Edward Abbey promo at Barnes & Noble today.
Welcome all you "Americans" that are willing to give up freedom for "security".

"They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" - Benjamin Frankin



Quit calling an airport ramp "Tarmac" and a taxiway "runway".
User currently offlineBrick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1054 times:

It serves this tree-hugging, liberal wacko right. This Paul Ehrlich wannabe needs to get a real life...

Mark Abbott
Denver, CO



A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man...
User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

Poor guy. Hey NW-ELITE, it reminds me of Mr. Humphries. Anyway, that is stupid. That is rascism in a different form. Not only the airport, but UA too should be punished. I flew PHL-DFW on AA on a 722 6 days after 9/11 and security was extremely tight. The F/A on board blocked the cockpit door with the drink cart.

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39698 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

Brick:
What a sick and un-patriotic thing for you to say!
Just because he was reading this book doesn't mean he agree's with the author.
This is a free country and if people like yourself think people should be harassed and punished because of what they read or how they dress, you should move to Afganistan! You will be quite welcomed there!



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1012 times:

Oh yes, there are plenty of "American's" willing to give up their liberties for the ILLUSION of security, poor ignorant fools. I am sure the Barbara Boxer's, Ted Kennedy's, and other American communists are drooling over this idea. Just more potential federal power for the liberal whackos, which they are very glad to accept. You watch though, these morons who are screaming for these extreme security measures will do a 180 in about 6 months or so.

Another thing I have noticed lately, we as a country have turned into backstabbing RATS against each other. The country is now full of arm-chair, wannabe, bogus good-samaritans who think it is just to stick their noses in other people's business. Is this being vigilant? NO. There is a difference between being vigilant towards potential threats and just being a scum sucking RAT, like many American's are becoming.

--Chris--


User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1002 times:

Next time I fly, I'll be sure not to pack my Star Trek book with the word WAR on the cover.. Or, for that matter, my airliner log, or cd player, or camera, or hell.. I'll just go NAKED.. Geezz. They went WAY to far..

Also, RE: the young mans book: I read a more controversial book in History class: The american Facade- meaning something being passes as something else. Some schools/colleges actually make their students read "questionable" books!

Chris



Lets do some sexy math. We add you, subtract your clothes, divide your legs and multiply
User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 967 times:

I agree with 5280AGL, the line between being vigilent and being on a power-trip is being crossed in many cases. Why are so many people running out for concealed weapons permits after last month? I'm sure thats really what we need, more yahoo's running around packing heat, now I feel less safe since all these nuts have guns on them in public, do they really thing they will get into shoot-out Wild West style with a terrorist??? The national guard at the airports, wow thats some good security. From my observation, I saw a bunch of 19-year olds with a few 40-somethings standing around sipping on Starbucks observing the screening area and talking with each other. Then they go and interview these guys staying how they've left their wife and kids, their job, etc to do this because they felt they had to help America. More or less, they wanted to feel powerful.
When I flew the last time the first week of October, this teenage girl ahead of me in line had to have her checked luggage searched and she was getting all pissed off cuz this dorky-looking 30 year-old agent was picking through her bras & underwear looking for "bombs". I also don't understand why I need to show my ID 4 times. For instance I flew out of DTW to SCE. I had to get a boarding pass printed up from an E-Ticket so I had to present ID at the check-in counter. Next I had to present ID with my ticket to get through security. Then I had to show ID at the gate where they board you on the bus to your flight. Then finally I had to show ID to the flight attendant as I got on the plane after getting off the bus. Seems multiply repetitive and I question how good these people are at spotting fakes.
I'm sorry, maybe I'm just pissed off cuz this is the way it has to be. I'm pissed that someone took some planes and decided to use them as missles. I'm pissed off cuz some people think its funny to mail anthrax. I'm pissed off because I have to interogated and under the watchful eye everytime I do anything: fly, go to the mall, go to city hall, go to Canada, etc. Some people in this world really know how to try and ruin it for everyone.


User currently offlineFlymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7123 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 943 times:

There is no such thing of to much security.


"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
User currently offlineTurbolet From Cape Verde, joined Nov 2007, 0 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 924 times:

Now that is going a bit too far. Ok, we saw what happened, we all know it's time to put up with a bit more security. But to sacrifice everything, to get on the plane naked, to have to explain what one is carrying and why... that's all going a bit too far. IMHO, the least intrusive way of finding weapons should be employed, full stop. But, by reading a book about whatever, noone is presenting a security threat. I mean, you could be reading a biography of Bin Laden, but if you're not carrying weapons, how can anyone stop you?
Unfortunately the authorities are not realising that by lengthily 'screening' and humiliating the passengers, they're discouraging them from flying. In turn, airlines will go bankrupt, airports will close and the FAA will lose its importance, too.
Yes, security has to be there, but like with everything, a healthy compromise must be found. Multi-zone metal detectors and bodyscans and x-ray machines with added explosive detection capability should, if used properly and by competent staff, provide adequate security in a short time. And all the four-times ID check stuff is useless. As for me, if the situation with security doesn't improve and level off to a sane condition, I won't fly. I'm sure hundreds of travelers share my opinons.
-turbolet


User currently offlineOflove13 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 910 times:

yea i think security and the parania has gone a bit to far also, i think those terrist succeded in doing what they wanted to even if they dont do anything else they made us ALL prisioners in our own homes.
I was cmcling home from tol the other day after a flight. i checked 2 bags and brought one on the plane with me. well i went through the metal detector and of corse set it off and the MP standing there used the wand ond pated me down and let me pass. my bags went through the x ray machine and then after that they opened them and serched through everything and took the bags that were being checked and gave me the one that was being brought on and let me go.
they called our plane for boarding but when it was bording they called my name over the speaker and told me to remaine seated. after everyone has boarded they then called me up to the counter and sent me over to a table. a lady there took my carry one and then serched it again and then she took the metal dector and checked me again, i was wondering why they were sercing me again after i already cleared security but i kept my mouth shut because i didnt want to miss my flight. just like the first time i was cleared and let on the plane. the other flight attedants i was comming home with were teasing me the whole flight after we landed in NY the pilot came out they were like here comes the pilot i bet he wants to serch u before they let u off the plane now we just laughed about it. (after delta security at JFK the most unplesent flight attendants ive ever had and all these hastles comming back on them i am so over delta) i see why alot of people dont fly anymore its such a damn hastle getting on the plane.


User currently offlineHeavymetal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 902 times:

The fault lies with the simple fact that half-assed, doughnut & coffee security companies who employee people who are barely literate let alone educated in high rish profiling are running the US airport security system.

Fire them all. Fast.


User currently offlineEWRSpotter From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 876 times:

This is what I call "Placebo Security." It has absolutely no real effect, but makes people feel better.

If today's security had been in effect on Sept 11, would there have been a different outcome? NO! Smart terrorists don't confront security measures; they go around them. We have implemented a highly expensive, impractical, and time consuming system to prevent against stupid terrorists.

I've been on 4 domestic US flights since Sept 11, and each visit yields a more absurd confrontation with security. On my flight last Thursday, the agent in BOS scanning me with his "magic wand" seem surprised that my belt buckle caused his hypersensitive device to beep. Duh.

-Marc.


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