Rootsboy From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 111 posts, RR: 1 Posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2233 times:
KLM is showing that they plan to switch from a their traditional 747-300 service to an MD-11 daily effective October 28th between Amsterdam and Toronto. Martinair's last 767-300 flight is planned for October 25th.
Ansafa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2155 times:
This is sad to hear, Lots of airlines all over the world are reducing capacity. But Pearson airport seems to be getting lots of cuts. Ie: Air France is bringing a 767-300 instead of an A340, Mexicana has reduced flights to 4 days a week from 7 days, Austrian Airlines & Virgin Atlantic are stopping flights altogether.
Dutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2115 times:
Transatlantic route are tough at the moment, even with smaller aircraft: try to look at the situation with a positive angle, at least the service is being maintained and on a daily service. So many route have been cut back completely, or suspended, that air connections that we once took for granted are now so difficult.
So many transatlantic routes are not operating, look what DL did with its winter schedule. Lets hope for the best.
Speedbird092 From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2112 times:
I recall seeing MD-11s at YYZ very often during winter months. You'd get the odd 743 but winter service was mainly done be md-11s. I guess the switch is just routine and the 743 will be back in the spring.
AIRNZ_747-800 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2091 times:
Tg 747-300, KLM's PH-BUP was retired this year. Also, PH-BUK might have also been retired. I wish that KLM started using the 743 to IAD now that KLM's Atlanta service has been dropped. We here at IAD do not deserve the sorry Northwest DC-10 for service to Amsterdam. We want size, and you only get size with the 747-300. I sure do hope that I get to fly on a 743 the next time I fly on KLM/Northwest from IAD.
Atwingo From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2078 times:
We used to get the 747-300 @ IAD in th early 90s,then came the switch. I took the flight in May 93 which departed around midnight!! I wish KLM came back to IAD as well now that we have again lost an airline(SABENA).
Johnnie From Portugal, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2009 times:
I flew the KLM B-747-300 - YYZ-AMS in 2000. I was lucky enough to get the "A" cabin (nose) with business class seats! Thank God. Have also flown the KL MD-11.
Nice aircraft, and thank God they have the wisdom to
have 3-4-2 seating, as opposed to the horrid 2-5-2.
Mind you, KLM has pretty bad legroom and pitch. My flight from AMS-SFO was TORTURE! AAAAAHHHHHH!
Also, those Flight Attendant uniforms HAVE TO GO.
Sheeeeesh! They look like they were first introduced in 1975!! Very plain and old-fashioned looking.
Lj From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2012 times:
The PH-BUK is also still operating (did yesterday AMS-ORD-AMS and today AMS-DEL-AMS) just as the PH-BUM (today and tomorrow AMS-ORD-AMS) and PH-BUN (today AMS-JFK-AMS).
As for the PH-BUL. This one should have been retired last April. However due to fact that the PH-BUP was at the end of her economic life, KLM decided to retire the PH-BUP and not the PH-BUl (allthough the rumour that this will be the next B747 to be retired)