Kcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1929 times:
For a period of about a half hour today, aircraft at CLE were following a Kai Tak style landing pattern today. Because of the Cleveland Browns game downtown, aircraft couldn't fly over the city. So, the aircraft had to use the ILS 28 approach because of southerly winds. For a while the winds were too strong for a crosswind approach to 28, so you have to land on 24L. But how do you land on 24 if you can't fly downtown? You have to fly the ILS 28, till about 1 mile out, then you fly around to 24 and land on 24. Watching these aircraft, it reminded me of the photos of Kai Tak, except for the a/c were lined up before the rwy.
Kcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1707 times:
I got there about noon, before the rain. The pilots were really good, as there were no missed approaches, though I think the pax. were not very happy. I never go to Hopkins without my camera, so I got some pics between the gusts of wind that proved too hard to combat to make a steady photgraph.
Kcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1673 times:
redngold, there was more. At gate B2, I noticed a strange looking 727, luckly he pushbacked and departed while I was there, so I saw it was a Transmeridian Airlines 727-200. With the fact that 28 had been reassigned for landing as the winds died down, the NOTAM that aircraft have to depart at Taxiway A, I was wondering if this 722 was going to get off the ground! I tell ya, the earth shook as the 722 put on full throttle! The little kids at the mound today were covering their ears and saying wow. On top of seeing a 727 turn into an STOL, there was a TWA/AA MD-80 that landed on 29 turned into an STOL as well. That MD-80 had full reverse thrust on, as he didn't get on the ground till between the 24's.
Bigmikenice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1505 times:
Delta is weird about short runways, even if it's the active one, if there are longer ones available. At PVD, we have a 7,200 and a 6,100 and somedays the Northwest winds are really strong (real low pressure kinda days) or Southeasterly (real high pressure) they will use 16/34, but Delta might be the only ones taking off or landing in x-winds because they want a little more to work with. But it's funny watching Southwest take off for PHX in 4,000 and Delta using up 5,500 to get to ATL.
Redngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 47 Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1413 times:
The new runway construction is suspended because of sulphurous runoff pollution from the slag they used for its base. The construction company has to remove all of the slag they put down in the runway and north apron areas. Some other slag they used to build a temporary road and they put down near NASA can stay for the time being.
This is part of a larger ongoing battle between the FAA, Ohio EPA, and the City of Cleveland Dept. of Port Control, which have been fighting about responsibility for various forms of runoff pollution for a long time.
Kcle From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 686 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1386 times:
It was quite interesting, seeing aircraft come towards you from the east, then turning away from you, and pointing dircetly at you at lower than normal altitudes from the northeast. My dad was sitting in our car and I yell to him to look up, and he couldn't believe it either! Seeing an MD-80 turning to the runway so close to us. The folk who are building the new Brookpark Rd. have created an enormous mound. I've climbed it several times, and you are almost as high as the aircraft, less a couple feet. It's really cool because you could practically wave to the people inside and they'd probably see you. I took a pic of a NW DC-9 following suit with Delta, from this mound, and you can see the aircraft is just slightly lower than me in the pic, when they are developed.
If a whole family was to stand on that mound, or a large group of tall people, and aircraft had to land on 24R for some reason, you could have St. Maarten day at CLE!
Che From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 537 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1374 times:
Sounds like I missed a good day at CLE. I'll have to take a trip to the mound soon.
Hopefully the runway will get finished but I have my doubts about it being ontime.
Anyone who has pic upload them (possibly to redngolds site) if they are not good enough for a.net. I would love to see them. I am always interested in pics at CLE. I have a good collection of my shots but I never get time to scan them.