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Best Small Aircraft To Own?  
User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 36104 times:

Hey,

I am wondering what you all think about what would be the best small plane to own.

I someday dream of owning a small plane, which are the fastest? I am talking a 6 seater maximum, probably 4 seater.

I really dig Mooneys. A multi-engine plane such as a Seneca isn't out of the question though. I know those will be faster than single engines but also more costly.

Cessna 152s can be had for $22k but with a cruise speed of 90kt I don't imagine it would be very good for more than a quick little hop.

Which makes the most sense to own?


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User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 36020 times:

Ummm, I fly the 172 and it's okay, but if I had a choice for a private turboprop I'd go with a PC-12, or maybe a Mooney. (Not saying there's nothing wrong with a Falcon900 or G5 though! Except we're talkin around 30-50 billion!  Love )


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User currently offlinePW4084 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 36008 times:

buy a Maule M-6 or M-7

for performance find 235 HP
for economy go with 180 HP

go with a taildragger, you'll love it

PW4084



User currently offlinePOSITIVE RATE From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 35999 times:

The TBM 700 would be nice, so would a PC-12. If going for a piston single then maybe a Socata TB21 Trinidad?

User currently offlineAirlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 35988 times:

JOC, how long would a trip from say, DTW-TPA take in a Cessna 172? How many stops and stuff?

Chris



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User currently offlineHigh_flyr69 From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 510 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 35981 times:

BEECH BONANZA!!!!!!!!


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User currently offlineBraniff Place From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 1125 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 35977 times:


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I like something a little different and larger...
Like one of those brilliant EMB121 Xingu planes they look great like a larger commuter turboprop with a wider cabin than a uninteresting cessna i strongly suggest it to any 6 seater buyer. A beautiful airliner/private craft. My preference by far!


User currently offlineSean1234 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 411 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 35953 times:

get a bonanza a36tc good 200 knot "doctor killer"

User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 35944 times:

Yeah! Beech Bonanzas are awesome too!


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User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 35939 times:

Mmm...all good suggestions.

Bonanzas seat 6 though, which seems a bit big, even though i'm sure those back to seats are tiny.

Mooneys are badass but cost a pretty penny, even for older ones.

Mooneys and Bonanzas can both zip around pretty quickly though, which rocks.

Here is a cool little chart I found:

http://www.etruria.com/comparison180.html

Man, wish I could fastforward 5 years in my life and be where I want to be. Grr...


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7443 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 35924 times:
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User currently offlineJared From United States of America, joined May 2001, 685 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 35922 times:

I don't plan on having THAT much money.  Smile

User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 35912 times:

A former sstudent of mine see sawed back and forth between the Mooney Ovation and teh A36, before finally going for the A36. The reasons were that they were nearly the same speed but the Beechcraft at leats had more passenegrs optiosn, or even loading options. The back area is very roomy and every non pilot that went up in the test flight preffered the Beechcraft as it was roomier and easier to get in and out of with the huge double doors. That plus you can get AC in it, nice.

User currently offlineDaEvOsH From Spain, joined Feb 2001, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 35903 times:

For me, the best aircraft to own will always be a Glider. It is flying for flying's sake.

Check out (many pics here in airliners.net) the Stemme at http://www.stemme.de/ it is one of the best GLIDERS out there, has an amazing design with foldable props. It has no trade offs being an excellent glider, and can be used as a prop plane for trips.


User currently offlineIwareboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 35899 times:

Lancair Columbia 300!!




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User currently offlineBuckFifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 35885 times:

The Pilatypus PC-12 is quite an amazing aircraft. It's approach speed is quite amazing for an aircraft that size, akin to that of the Bonanza, I think.

Too bad the base price for one is over 2 million U.S. dollars...


User currently offlineCorey777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 35876 times:

Pilatus PC-12 would be my choice...speed of a bizjet with turboprop economy. Though I don't have $3 million lying around right now...

Corey777


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4200 posts, RR: 37
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 35875 times:

Piper Malibu Meridian baby!

You cant go wrong with a Bonanza though.. what a great aircraft.



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User currently offlineDesertJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 7780 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 35866 times:

I will always have a reverence for the classic V-tailed Bonanza... there is just something about it.

But I have been torn by the what plane question myself.

Don't overlook the Cherokee 235/Challenger/Dakota... it has been overshadowed by the C-182 Skylane, but can cruise around 140kts and lift a decent load.

The Socota singles are not too bad, very roomy inside. Next to the Commanders they have the widest cabin in a 4-place single.

I also love the Saratoga... whether a fixed gear, retract, turbo or not it has to be one of the most versitile planes out there. HUGE cabin and they hold their value like crazy. Nearly matching the prices of model 36 Bonanzas, but bigger albeit slower. If all things were equal a 'Toga II TC would probably be my first choice.

The Mooneys are nice, the newer the better, wicked fast, but quite tiny inside... the long cabin models are a bit better, but still narrow as a Bonanza.

If you want to look at new planes, go check out the new Cessna Turbo Skylane... very impressive performance numbers... 160ktas at 10,000' with the gear dragging in the breeze... not too shabby.



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User currently offlineDouglas DC 8 From Switzerland, joined Aug 2001, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 35859 times:

I would suggest you the Pilatus PC-12.
http://www.pilatus-aircraft.com


User currently offlineSouthernCRJ From Argentina, joined Sep 2001, 180 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35856 times:

I recommend you to buy a Long EZ or a Vary EZ. You can buy one fished for 20000 $ and they can cruise at 180 mph.

Regards


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35848 times:

Beware of twin engined aircraft. They do seem nice at first but are far more expensive to run and not much faster (the second engine is needed mostly to lift itself and its fuel in the smaller ones).


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User currently offlineGocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4346 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35844 times:

You can get a multi engine plane for $50,000 and on. I've seen a Cessna 414 on sale for $122,000. Not that bad.

Kevin/DCA

Go to http://www.aso.com Good site to browse aircraft on sale.


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35846 times:

For a single I would choose a Monney, Piper Archer III or a Katana

For a twin Id choose a King Air (any type) or a Beech Duchess.



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User currently offlineNicolaki From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 35848 times:

The Socata TB21 GT


25 Post contains images Boeing nut : I agree with the PC-12 choice. That's my dream aircraft. Then again, so is the BBJ and Falcon FNX !!! Anyway, the PC-12 has excellent range, over 2,00
26 N17085 : I like the Cessnna172. It is not the most good looking or the fastest or anything, but, it is good and reliable. Also, a B1900D would be nice, but tha
27 Indianguy : for weekend flying i'd love to own a small 2 seater ultralight, the kind i saw in the film "Gods must be crazy". dont remember the name, but it was a
28 OH-LZA : PA-28-181 Archer III Zulu Alpha
29 Doug_or : Cirus. they make a 4 and 6 seater. fast, economical, modern, with glass in the cockpit. Also, quite roomy for the size.
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