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PIA To Purchase 7 777-200's According To Cnn!  
User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

After watching CNN, yesterday, they mentioned that PIA were in talks with Boeing.

It has been suggested that PIA are planning to purchase 7 B777-200's.


Any truth in this story ?

I thought it was 4 ??


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User currently offlineGF-A330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

What a/c would the 777 replace in the PIA fleet ?

User currently offlineTeej13 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

I read that too... my guess is it'll replace the 747 Classics...


User currently offlineGf-a330 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2437 times:

Does that mean that the 5 leased Cathay 743, will continue to operate, or will they be returned.

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

What impeccable timing by Boeing and Pakistan! (and the US Govt.)

*cough*couldyouhavemadeitanymoreobvious?*cough*



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User currently offlineMD-11 forever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

I agree Singapore_Air..... The timing couldn't have been better, I wonder about the discount offered to them.......

User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2375 times:

I'm sure US taxpayers helped subsidize that deal...

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3120 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2357 times:
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The Pakistani gov't has gone on a limb to support the US gov't and its ops against Afghanistan. I just hope the Pakistani gov't (such as it is) won't be toppled by its disgruntled citizens.(Remember--Pakistan has nuclear capabilities!) I have no problems at all with PIA getting a deal on some 777s. It's good for Boeing and good for PIA (if they can afford the new jets).

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Fine by me if we GIVE them to Pakistan---I'll be glad for my tax dollars to support that.

If/when Sinapore does the same for us---I'll be glad to pay for those aircraft too!


User currently offlineRM-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

This is really a surprise. I know that with PIA's financial condition for the last few years, PIA has not able to afford new aircraft. But the help of the US govt anything is possible.

I know from the last few weeks PIA has been hurting with its bread and butter routes to the Middle East destinations. Due to less Pakistani's acquiring visas to those countries. I would imagine that the cargo business for PIA is booming since quite a few airlines have suspended air service to Pakistan. I know that Pakistani Businesses are have having a rough time getting products shipped out of the country. I have also heard of businesses canceling contracts with Pakistani manufacturers the same reason (Adidas is one the companies that is thinking of pulling out).


User currently offlineRM-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2287 times:

I remember reading not to long ago PIA haveing a hard time getting part for its Boeing fleet due to the sanctions. After reading that article I though if PIA could afford new planes they would have been most likly Airbus.

According to PIA officals, PIA would have broke into the positive in the spring of 2002 and will start modernize its fleet at that time. But this was before the attacks in NYC.


User currently offlineAirmale From Botswana, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2281 times:

I hope this is true and the 747-200 can finally be retired, they should retain the 747-300 though and have the planes painted in their full livery Smile

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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2242 times:
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Airmale,

That is their new c/s.

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User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

I am sure the only reason why they getting 772 is because they got very good deal from Boeing/ american govt.  Smile

User currently offlineWingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2262 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

So what some of you are clearly suggesting is that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity to help secure contracts for Airbus...??? This is the height of hypocrisy.

User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

"So what some of you are clearly suggesting is that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity to help secure contracts for Airbus...??? This is the height of hypocrisy."

Wingman - Noone is being hypocritical here. We are just being realistic about what is going on here.

Or can you dig out ONE quote from this thread that states "that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity" or anything similar?

I see no such "clear" suggestion here - but please do inform us...


User currently offlineThe747Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

I am sure the only reason why they getting 772 is because they got very good deal from Boeing/ american govt.

Ummmm............funny.


User currently offlineThe747Man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2055 times:

For example in reference to Polair's post:

Let's same there is a guy named Bob.

Bob sees a very good sell on a DVD. Although Bob thinks that movie sucks, he buys it anyway just because's it's on sell.


User currently offlineSpaceman From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 534 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2045 times:

Will they obviously need some airplanes, but they probably couldn't afford them, so what do you think it's going on here?

User currently offlineA330-243 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 251 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2048 times:

Although I don't believe everything I see or read on CNN, I really hope this is true.

The more I hear about PIA getting 777s the more I believe it.

The 777 would be a great addition to PIA's fleet even though I wished it was PIA A330. Anyway, thats just a wish. I'm not complaining  Smile


User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10736 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (12 years 11 months 2 days ago) and read 1983 times:

Buying used 747-400s would make a better deal I guess, because even if PIA has been offered a very good deal by the US/Boeing (and I bet that is the truth behind it) the 777 is a very expensive aircraft.

2 PW-powered ex-Air China ones and 2 or more also PW-powered 744s from Korean, all about 10 years old, are currently on the market.


User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1973 times:

Govt subsidies to aircraft manufacturers is nothing new nor anything to be surprised about. Boeing, Airbus, Canadair/Bombardier and Embraer all do it.


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User currently offlineVS744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Yes, but do they all do it at a time of Diplomatic negotiations?
Hi, Mr Musharaaf, here are 3 extra 777's for your country. Now can we use your airports to launch hround attacks please?


User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1957 times:

Second hand market, nowadys tons!

Say 4 B744? GO to MH and they are glad about negotiations! P&W powered! And they have three brand new ones coming in and you might at them at cheap prices. Second hand MH B744 ...were on sale as well! 7 yrs old.

Fine you want the more advanced B772. MH has got 2 brand new ones coming next yr. sure PIA can get a deal of that. Or if you want not-so-old-one, then MH also have a lot of them . They are grounding 18 a/c ( I m not sure if it includes the 5 new Boeings)


User currently offlineBoeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 11 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

The 5 new aircraft for MH(3 744@2 772) will be sucured with the help of a American bank. And also these 777's PIA is getting are from United.

25 GF-A330 : I'm sure PIA can utilise the 747 classics, by modifying them to all cargo layout, as PIA have reported an increase in the area of cargo. There 747 com
26 Jaysit : Hello? What about El Al's purchase of 777s over Airbus A330-200s? We've always strong armed our political proteges to do our bidding. Do you seriously
27 Post contains links and images Airmale : This is not the first time PIA have been offered Boeing planes at concessional rates in 1998 three brand new747-400 ordered by Philippine Airlines wer
28 Post contains links and images Airmale : Another good idea for PIA is a Continental Airlines style livery, but with the Floral tail, the bare metal/ grey belly would cut out the extra White,
29 Post contains images Airmale : Ofcourse with a much darker green for the background and title
30 Post contains links and images A330-243 : Airmale, I made it for ya. Check this out: http://www.geocities.com/nac743/PK.html
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