TransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1749 times:
I'm sure US taxpayers helped subsidize that deal...
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3072 posts, RR: 15 Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 1731 times:
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The Pakistani gov't has gone on a limb to support the US gov't and its ops against Afghanistan. I just hope the Pakistani gov't (such as it is) won't be toppled by its disgruntled citizens.(Remember--Pakistan has nuclear capabilities!) I have no problems at all with PIA getting a deal on some 777s. It's good for Boeing and good for PIA (if they can afford the new jets).
RM-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 137 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1681 times:
This is really a surprise. I know that with PIA's financial condition for the last few years, PIA has not able to afford new aircraft. But the help of the US govt anything is possible.
I know from the last few weeks PIA has been hurting with its bread and butter routes to the Middle East destinations. Due to less Pakistani's acquiring visas to those countries. I would imagine that the cargo business for PIA is booming since quite a few airlines have suspended air service to Pakistan. I know that Pakistani Businesses are have having a rough time getting products shipped out of the country. I have also heard of businesses canceling contracts with Pakistani manufacturers the same reason (Adidas is one the companies that is thinking of pulling out).
RM-11 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 137 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 1661 times:
I remember reading not to long ago PIA haveing a hard time getting part for its Boeing fleet due to the sanctions. After reading that article I though if PIA could afford new planes they would have been most likly Airbus.
According to PIA officals, PIA would have broke into the positive in the spring of 2002 and will start modernize its fleet at that time. But this was before the attacks in NYC.
Wingman From Trinidad and Tobago, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 1838 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
So what some of you are clearly suggesting is that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity to help secure contracts for Airbus...??? This is the height of hypocrisy.
TransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1527 times:
"So what some of you are clearly suggesting is that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity to help secure contracts for Airbus...??? This is the height of hypocrisy."
Wingman - Noone is being hypocritical here. We are just being realistic about what is going on here.
Or can you dig out ONE quote from this thread that states "that neither Airbus nor the EU has ever taken advantage of political influence, timing, or taxpayer generosity" or anything similar?
I see no such "clear" suggestion here - but please do inform us...
Spaceman From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 534 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1419 times:
Will they obviously need some airplanes, but they probably couldn't afford them, so what do you think it's going on here?
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9616 posts, RR: 10 Reply 20, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1357 times:
Buying used 747-400s would make a better deal I guess, because even if PIA has been offered a very good deal by the US/Boeing (and I bet that is the truth behind it) the 777 is a very expensive aircraft.
2 PW-powered ex-Air China ones and 2 or more also PW-powered 744s from Korean, all about 10 years old, are currently on the market.
VS744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1339 times:
Yes, but do they all do it at a time of Diplomatic negotiations?
Hi, Mr Musharaaf, here are 3 extra 777's for your country. Now can we use your airports to launch hround attacks please?
Airbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1331 times:
Second hand market, nowadys tons!
Say 4 B744? GO to MH and they are glad about negotiations! P&W powered! And they have three brand new ones coming in and you might at them at cheap prices. Second hand MH B744 ...were on sale as well! 7 yrs old.
Fine you want the more advanced B772. MH has got 2 brand new ones coming next yr. sure PIA can get a deal of that. Or if you want not-so-old-one, then MH also have a lot of them . They are grounding 18 a/c ( I m not sure if it includes the 5 new Boeings)
Boeing in pdx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (11 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 1325 times:
The 5 new aircraft for MH(3 744@2 772) will be sucured with the help of a American bank. And also these 777's PIA is getting are from United.
25 GF-A330: I'm sure PIA can utilise the 747 classics, by modifying them to all cargo layout, as PIA have reported an increase in the area of cargo. There 747 com
26 Jaysit: Hello? What about El Al's purchase of 777s over Airbus A330-200s? We've always strong armed our political proteges to do our bidding. Do you seriously
27 Airmale: This is not the first time PIA have been offered Boeing planes at concessional rates in 1998 three brand new747-400 ordered by Philippine Airlines wer
28 Airmale: Another good idea for PIA is a Continental Airlines style livery, but with the Floral tail, the bare metal/ grey belly would cut out the extra White,
29 Airmale: Ofcourse with a much darker green for the background and title
30 A330-243: Airmale, I made it for ya. Check this out: http://www.geocities.com/nac743/PK.html
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