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Alitalia To Shut Air One  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25719 posts, RR: 50
Posted (1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 12298 times:

Alitalia has decided that the Air One brand and separate operation will disapear starting in October.

Air One which Alitalia acquired in 2009 was marketed as an LCC hybrid "smart carrier” operating primarily from secondary bases.

As part of the wind down the carrier will cease to operate routes from Catania, Palermo and Venice effective Sept 30th, while Malpensa, Verona and Pisa flights will end October 30th.


Alitalia to phase out Air One
http://worldairlinenews.com/2014/08/...ut-the-air-one-brand-on-october-1/

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Good move imo.
Not only was it confusing to the consumer when they end up on AP when they bought a ticket for AZ, it also created significant duplication in many behind the scenes departments running separate airlines.


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User currently offlineReinerS From Germany, joined Mar 2014, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 12025 times:

Do they have 9 or 10 A320? I have different information here.

What will happen to the aircrafts? To Alitalia or back to lessor ?



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User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11927 times:

I see this as good move.

It shows that is was foolish to try go up against people like Easyjet and Ryanair on random point to point routes. Clearly AZ did not have the cost base, or ability to attract enough profitable traffic to do so even under the Air One branding.

Let the new AZ focus developing its core strength at Rome and Milan Linate.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7752 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11915 times:

Was AP running on a deficit?

Pretty good idea for AZ. They need to downsize as much as they can.



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User currently offlinelesfalls From United States of America, joined Dec 2013, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11700 times:

They also have an A333 .

User currently offlineReinerS From Germany, joined Mar 2014, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 month 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 11682 times:

Both A330-200 went back to Alitalia in 2009.


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User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 month 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 11451 times:

They have Alitalia Express, no need to have another brand doing secondary routes.

User currently offlineAOMlover From Singapore, joined Jul 2001, 1305 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 month 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11103 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 6):

Alitalia Express is gone for more than 4 years.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3925 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 month 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 10966 times:

Weren't some planes "Alitalia - operated by Air One" or the like?

... Even more confusing!


User currently offlinezkeoj From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 month 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 10727 times:

Quoting ReinerS (Reply 5):
Both A330-200 went back to Alitalia in 2009.

I shot this one in 2012 in YYZ: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000823905.html

Cheers
micha


User currently offlineSkyeurope From Germany, joined May 2006, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8839 times:

Quoting zkeoj (Reply 9):

They were transferred to Alitalia in 2009 but only repainted some time during 2013.


User currently offlinereifel From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 1364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8739 times:

Never understood the point of AP. Not a big loss and it will save them money. A lot of AZ planes are old AP planes anyway...

User currently offlineokapi From France, joined Jun 2006, 217 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8506 times:

AirOne was not that bad at the time they were still independant. I remember them being LH partners before they moved into the AZ network. I even used them a few times between CDG and TRN with their CRJ900s.
So far, the whole brand has been really confusing in Italy. They tried to focus on "migrant" routes during busy summer season however, I have the feeling they've lost their soul. AZ will now be able to concentrate on creating value for its shareholders and improve service on both domestic and international network.
I wonder what will happen to their slots at both LIN and FCO.


User currently offlineVCEflyboy From Canada, joined Jun 2014, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 month 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8335 times:

I personally think the role of AP was essentially a face-saver and a tool to return to and re-gain market share in secondary airports/destinations in Italy that AZ had managed to alienate during their waltzes of 180-degree strategy changes, allowing AZ to return without losing face. That need is no longer there today.

User currently offlinezkeoj From New Zealand, joined Feb 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 8120 times:

Quoting Skyeurope (Reply 10):
They were transferred to Alitalia in 2009 but only repainted some time during 2013.

Thanks for the information   That's a loooong time flying in the "old" colours...

Cheers
micha


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3016 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 month 3 weeks ago) and read 7937 times:
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Actually wasn't it Air One that took over original bankrupted Alitalia back in 2008 !

User currently offlineflyforever From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7679 times:

Well, Air One was not very different from the role of Vueling in Iberia and Transavia for Air France - KLM and both have a regional service as well, so actually when Air One was formed as low cost airline i though was a good idea.
My opinion is that the rebranding is included in the 49% acquisition of Etihad wich is tiding up things inside Alitalia.

They say they will take over the routes left by Air One and I hope so since some of them are within Italy and they are extremely important.


User currently offlinedmsolovyev From Russia, joined Aug 2013, 17 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6713 times:

The economic reasons for shutting down Air One are quite understandable, nevertheless it will be missed at least by me. The prices on AP flights from Eastern Europe were nice (especially during sales).

User currently offlineviscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5941 times:
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Interesting to note that everyone on here seems much more concerned about what's happening to the airplanes and no-one seems to care whats happening to the staff?   


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User currently offlinebahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1801 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

Quoting viscount630 (Reply 18):
Interesting to note that everyone on here seems much more concerned about what's happening to the airplanes and no-one seems to care whats happening to the staff?

Welcome to airliners.net  

AP was a much better player when it was independent. I think this is going to kill certain things in Alitalia as well. It is amazing what Middle Eastern money can do. Interesting times ahead..



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User currently offlineflyforever From Italy, joined Aug 2005, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5164 times:

Quoting viscount630 (Reply 18):

Interesting to note that everyone on here seems much more concerned about what's happening to the airplanes and no-one seems to care whats happening to the staff?   

Alitalia stated that part of the routed will be take over by Alitalia in itself, my guess is that all the employers will be absorbed by Alitalia and they'll put in other routes which Alitalia is thinking to open, but not sure about it of course. If they are going to be fired, the unions won't stay quite, as usual in Italy....


User currently offlinemercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5002 times:

Yes AP was good and looked like had opportunity to grow when it was independent and aligned with LH and Star airlines, but under AZ banner its operation shrink and it became confusing. It shifted many routes, open/close many domestic bases, and service mostly poor leisure/ethnic markets under AZ banner.

User currently offlinesdexplorer00 From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4618 times:

Quoting flyforever (Reply 16):

Exactly.

Not all routes from Verona are being kept. Point to point routes from Verona such as to Paris and Barcelona will disappear on October 30th. It's a blow to Verona I think.


User currently offlineVCEflyboy From Canada, joined Jun 2014, 412 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

Quoting sdexplorer00 (Reply 22):
Quoting flyforever (Reply 16):

Exactly.

Not all routes from Verona are being kept. Point to point routes from Verona such as to Paris and Barcelona will disappear on October 30th. It's a blow to Verona I think.

This also has to do with the airport strategy - not necessarily the airline.
VCE has recently bought a stake into VRN and they control TFS. My guess is they are streamlining operations across VCE VRN and TFS so that VCE is focused on international and high-yield operations, VRN focuses on tour operators and holiday destinations, and TFS focuses on LCCs, but this is my observation. I cant assure it is the case.


User currently offlineNorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1849 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 month 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3609 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 15):
Actually wasn't it Air One that took over original bankrupted Alitalia back in 2008 !

That's what I thought as well, that Air One had bought Alitalia not the other way around.



Why are people so against low yields?! If lower yields means more people can travel abroad, i'm all for it
25 Post contains links sdexplorer00 : So do you not expect another airline, such as Vueling or easyJet, to step in and fill that empty slots? It was nice having some new destinations out
26 Post contains links LAXintl : Notice posted finally on the Air One website. Important information about Air One flights from October the 1st The Alitalia Group, in the pursuit of s
27 mercure1 : Anyone have list of cut routes which AZ will not operate itself?
28 sdexplorer00 : Well Verona to Barcelona, Paris, Palermo, and seasonal St. Petersburg. All routes from Venice except Tirana.[Edited 2014-09-02 08:59:34]
29 warden145 : Sad to see Air One go...I did a flight on them a while back FCO-TRN while they were an LH subsidiary. Seemed like a good little airline to me...
30 VCEflyboy : Should be very clear! CDG will be served as "Air One flight SOLD AS Air One Cityliner MARKETED BY Alitalia SOON TO BE REBRANDED AS Al-Ethialia IN COD
31 sdexplorer00 : Any plans for a VRN to BCN flight?
32 Post contains links mercure1 : Some clarity on future of Air One markets From Turin: Keep - Naples, Lamezia and Reggio Calabria Cancel - Alghero, Bari, Catania, Palermo http://www.t
33 VCEflyboy : sdexplorer00, I think the traffic is there but not at the right fares. Keep in mind that Ryanair pulled our of VRN altogether, which was basically a
34 RyanairGuru : Vueling already operate the route, and - to be honest - seem like the right vehicle to make such a route work.
35 Amsterdam : The did it. They destroyed Air One. Bravo. It took them 5 years. Air One was a healthy and promising company in 2009.
36 FlyingSicilian : I find that mind-boggling. CTA and PMO have always seemed busier and healthy LF and farewise than SUF or REG. Not that I like Torino but I hate losin
37 sdexplorer00 : Overall, it looks like smaller airports are gonna be shunned in the new Alitalia.
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