Ahlfors From Canada, joined Oct 2000, 1347 posts, RR: 4 Posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1628 times:
Does anyone know if any airlines are planning on flying intercontinentally into Helsinki. Currently, AY is the only scheduled operator with flights to JFK, NRT, PEK, BKK (onto SIN or CLK) and seasonally to YYZ and DXB. Also, I believe LY still has flights to Tel Aviv, if that can really be considered intercontinental.
I would like to see a US airline flying to Helsinki, like Pan Am and Delta used to.
Stockholm and Copenhagen both get a lot more intercontinental flights. Does the demand simply not exist at HEL or what is it?
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8560 posts, RR: 53
Reply 1, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1551 times:
I guess everything's changed since 9/11/01, but surely HEL would be an ideal destination for CO? They seem(ed) really keen to find niches like Shannon, Edinburgh, Birmingham et al. They could use their nice new 767-200NGs. In the meantime, lucky old AY having the market to itself (top airline btw).
How long did Delta last? Do they still fly to the other three Scandinavian countries?
fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34352 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1537 times:
I think LY still flies seasonally to FLL via BGR. Not sure, though. LY used to fly to SFO and MIA in the early/mid 1990s. I don't know when those flights ended, however. In the future, as part of thier oneWorld membership, I could possibly see LY at Chicago O'Hare, giving connections to the West coast US, and Miami, as Florida is the #1 tourist destination for Finnish tourists in the US and is also a major oneWorld hub. Not for the short-term, however.
FunFlying From Finland, joined Jul 2001, 189 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1523 times:
First as a reply to the previous post, MAH4546, I guess you mean AY (Finnair) instead of LY (ElAl).
The first new intercontinental destination will be Hong Kong (HKG) in February operated with Finnair via BKK, as Thomas wrote. LY doesn't fly to HEL anymore, so there aren't any intercontinental airlines outside Europe serving HEL.
Delta doesn't fly to the Nordic countries anymore, they stopped their flights to Stockholm a few weeks ago due to NYC events, as did AA.
I think at least some Asian airlines could have potential at HEL..tough it's hard to come to Finnair's strong home market..
OH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1450 times:
The services to DXB and FLL (via BGR) are/were (Finnish tour operators have stopped selling trips to Florida, this was before 9/11) charters operated for Finnish tour operators. I don't see any potential for PIA (would be nice for us spotters though ), i see little potential for CO. I'm sad AY dropped SFO, i see potential in it because we have a lot of hi-tech industry here in Finland, i guess the MD11's were too big for the route .
I once read here that EK was planning to start DXB-SVO-HEL.
Blueskies From Finland, joined Jul 2001, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1429 times:
There might be a possibility for some US airline (CO perhaps) to start a route to SVO with a stop in HEL. That way the load factor might be good enough, I don't see HEL alone to be a profitable enough destination for CO.
On the other hand, now that AA dropped STO, they might be interested in starting ORD-HEL, since both AA and AY are members of OneWorld. AA could then codeshare AY to destinations in Eastern Europe and Russia.
MD From Finland, joined Oct 2001, 146 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1431 times:
Possibly JAL, because if JAL joined Oneworld then Finnair and JAL start code-share flight from Narita Airport. Finnair fly two times a week from Tokyo and Finnair needs couple flight more, but Tokyo Narita Airport is so busy and so Finnair have problems to get more flight.
Hagi From Finland, joined Jun 1999, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1401 times:
Just a few remarks...
Thai came to the Finnish market at a very bad time; the recession of the early 90s was in full swing here. That was not a normal downturn but a true economical crisis which killed for instance several tour operators and got Finnair into serious trouble. And this was after a period of economical boom never seen before (and since?). Passenger figures at Helsinki-Vantaa airport reached the pre-recession levels again just recently, in 1998 or 1999, so maybe you can imagine the severity of the blow the whole travel industry in this country had to sustain back in 1990-1994.
As for the SFO route, I, too, wonder how come Finnair couldn't make it a success during the last couple of years. Perhaps the service should have been all-year-round and more frequent to really establish the airline as a player in the US west coast. Or maybe SFO-Europe market was too saturated already. What ever the case, the silicon valley connection has lost a lot of its importance since the beginning of this year anyway.
And yes, before the events of this September and the ensuing conflict, Middle-Eastern companies were rumouredly looking at Helsinki as a possibility. In fact, rights to fly between Helsinki and Abu Dhabi (someone correct if it's some other Gulf destination) have been negotiated between the governements of Finland and UAE. Now we just need an airline to operate that route... maybe sometime in the future. Such rights have evidently been agreed to flights between Helsinki and Osaka, too...
N17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (14 years 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1379 times:
HEL is the coolest airport ever, I love that place. Anyway, HEL has a huge potential to expand, I wouldn't be surprised if within the next 5 years we saw a new airline start up there and have it as a major hub. AY is a fantastic airlines, but if they don't expand more, then I think that we could see some competition out of HEL to places like JFK, SFO, and LAX.