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Delta Is Considering To Ground 50 Or 60 Planes!  
User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3315 times:

Hi:

Wow Bads new from Delta! The airline is considering to ground 50 or 60 aircraft in the next months. All depends of the demand in the next weeks. The days before and after Thanksgiving Day is consider a very important for take the new resolutions.

Also Delta is in dicussion with Boeing about postponing deliveries, but Delta had no numbers on how many plane might be deferred.

RJ_Delta.

56 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3020 times:

I bet this grounding of these 60 planes will be the retirement of Delta's 727s & 737-200s.

User currently offlineTbone202 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2989 times:

Does anyone know what aircraft they will be grounding? What will they replace them with?

Tbone202


User currently offlineOldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2974 times:

Wow where did that come from?

User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Oldelwood:

Source: Delta Air Lines and justplanes.com

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineF86sabre From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2928 times:

You must figure all the major airlines are cutting back 15%-20%. Delta has about 450 aircraft. 15% reduction equals 68 unneeded aircraft. You must also figure that the older, less fuel efficient aircraft will be the first to go.

User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1944 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2912 times:

F86sabre:

Boeing 727-200 and 737-200 will be the first planes to go! Delta possible will retire all 727 fleet inh the next months.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9160 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2894 times:

Hmm.......... That means they are going to retire their B 727s, as well as B 732s.........

Sad........


User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

That is typical of Delta, While jetBlue is thriving, Delta is UNTHRIVING

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA


User currently offlineOldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2809 times:

There goes our 16 year wonder boy Critter592 again i bet his cousin told him to laugh! give that boy a can of coke and 18 planes and and he's as happy as can be! Thank's for the info.R J Delta.

User currently offlineJessman From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1506 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

Yes Critter 592;
if JB grounded 50-60 planes how many flights would it still run?
Yes, DL is cutting back, but I would not say it is unthriving.
By the way, I took Delta to Paris and had a nice flight. Non-stop from my home base in CVG. I flew Business Elite. Where was JB? Not where I want to go, nor will they ever be.


User currently offlineOldelwood From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Hey Jessman on my last 5 flights on Delta I flew on two 777's one 764 and one 763-300.Two of the flights were free! but i didn't get any coke, i got scotch! maybe when Critter592 grow's up he can fly with the Big Boys!

User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Probably 722s and 732s. I hope they let go of some MD-88s, I hate them in DL colours.

User currently offlineTEDSKI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2763 times:

If Delta retires all of the 737-200s what will they do for a replacement for the Express aircraft? My thought was for Delta to transfer all of the 737-300s over to Express along with some MD-80s & MD-90s.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16245 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2756 times:

Can't help but think the 717 is the perfect replacement for the Express 732 and for the low end of the DL mainline fleet.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineAtcboy73 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1100 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2715 times:

DAL grounding so many a/c. This cant be good for the DFW hub. It seems to be getting smaller and smaller. I know that they are putting RJs in there but mainline is shrinking. How much smaller can mainline DAL get there and it still be a viable operation?

User currently offline2cn From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 648 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Critter- as others have pointed out, and as I will, the 60 planes Delta is grounding are all part of their scheduled cut backs. Delta is still thriving, probably thriving even better then Jet Blue. Delta still operates thousands of flights- 4,757 flights a day to be exact, with the cuts, more then Jet Blue does, and most likely ever will. It is quite sad to see someone so happy about 'bad' news regarding another airline.

User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3466 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2681 times:

Actually, for the person who said Delta has 450 planes, they actually had 615 before September 11.

User currently offlineF86sabre From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 92 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day ago) and read 2664 times:

SESGDL,
I apologize for my error. You are defiantly closer to the correct number of aircraft than I was. 450 was just a number that stuck in my mind.

Using the numbers from Delta's web site,

http://www.delta.com/inside/investors/corp_info/fleet/index.jsp

the number is 600 main line aircraft. This number is not entirely accurate, as it still includes L1011s, DAL has retired some 737-200s in the last few months and DAL has more 737-800s than is listed.

Anyway, the retirement of 50-60 aircraft is unfortunate for any airline. Even though most of these planes would have been gone by 2004. I'm sure DAL will not be the only airline parking excess aircraft. Hopefully then numbers don't get much worse.


User currently offlineVirgina340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 9 months 1 day ago) and read 2654 times:

PLEASE PLEASE!!!! do not cut back at JFK NO NO NO!!!! We at JFK have had it up to hear with this crap!!! First AA and UA buys all the ex PA and TW routes and then rapes JFK by moving all of the international routes to MIA, ORD, IAD, LAX and SFO while JFK gets screwed. DL has nowhere near the network that TWA had in the 70s and 80s. All we have is CDG and LHR on AA and UA is LHR. All other are on foreign or codeshares. DL is the only largest left with international ops right out of JFK. Please DL don't move everything to MCO and ATL! The economy around here has had enough! In 5 years maybe less the construction will be completed yet JFK will still be underutilized except for forign airlines not going to EWR.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineLowfareair From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 9 months 21 hours ago) and read 2634 times:

>>Yes Critter 592;
if JB grounded 50-60 planes how many flights would it still run?
Yes, DL is cutting back, but I would not say it is unthriving.
By the way, I took Delta to Paris and had a nice flight. Non-stop from my home base in CVG. I flew Business Elite. Where was JB? Not where I want to go, nor will they ever be.<<

So you would still be flying CVG-CDG in BizElite if you got laid off? Or is that one of the severance benefits?


User currently offlineDeltaOwnsAll From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Lowfareair- Are you blaming DL for the cutbacks that they were forced to create? The cutbacks go along with the size and economical structure of an airline...just because JB is much much much smaller does not mean that they are a better airline. Where would we be with just airlines like JB? We have to have majors...and DL is probably the airline in the best shape out of the big six right now.
Question- What will DL do with the MD-11s? Do you think that they will be part of this cutback as well? I believe that DL has cancelled JFK-NRT, LAX-NRT (MD-11) and LAX-NGO (MD-11).
DeltaOwnsAll


User currently offlineMikeymike From United States of America, joined May 2000, 406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

Approximate numbers are

10 MD-88s (1 or 2 will be Ops Spares)
1 MD-90 Ops Spare
1 MD-11 Trans Pac Ops Spare
20 737-200
25 727's
6-8 767ERs go to Domestic Service
2 767-200's
1 767-200 Ops Spare

Thats all I can remember from a teleconference....

Someone else may be a bit more accurate...


User currently offlineCo LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (12 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

jetBlue is much better than Delta. I am not worried about travelling to France, because there is no point. And, how many people get to fly your "Precious" Business Elite? Only the rich people or Delta Snob Employees. Delta's coach service is horrid. Leo Mullin is a good example of a bucktoothed rabbit running an awful airline. If I ever needed to go to CDG, I'd take a European Airline. Some of the major airlines provide crap service. Where are the meals on 30 minute commuters these days? (Europe).

User currently offlineCo LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

And if you ever get to leave CVG, you're lucky. Because people get stuck there all the time. And I got treated like a jailbird there, on Comair especially. I hope some other airline moves into CVG and gives Comair the boot, like MESA tried to do.

25 IAHERJ : Co LITE, Your knowledge and ideas are right in line with your screen name. We are all airline buffs etc, but you are acting as though this is a sporti
26 Co LITE : IAHERJ, I'll take your word. BTW, how is Continental doing? I might be flying them this summer.
27 Lowfareair : DeltaOwnsAll: I was just commenting on how the person that flew CVG-CDG in BizElite, something that you can't do on B6 was only doing it as an employe
28 DeltaSFO : So you would still be flying CVG-CDG in BizElite if you got laid off? Or is that one of the severance benefits? Actually, yes, that is one of the sev
29 N839MH : As of Friday October 26, 2001, Delta had 581 mainline jets. Boeing 727.......50 in Service Boeing 737.....135 in Service Boeing 757.....121 in Service
30 A330300 : Well said, DeltaSFO. I must say though, that the level of service provided on jetBlue beats out anyone in the short-haul Florida market, but is on par
31 Papatango : i think critter592's parents should put a leash on this boy and get one for co-lite also
32 RJ_Delta : Thanks DeltaSFO, Well said. RJ_Delta.
33 Post contains images Bove : Co LITE, I'm not surprised that you're not worried about travelling to France. Delta doesn't really target the 13-15 year old white trash segment for
34 Jessman : Some things: 1.)I have also flown DL coach to europe and domestically. I have no problems with it. I like the food. I have had delicious, tender steak
35 Post contains images Jessman : If I ever needed to go to CDG, I'd take a European Airline. Some of the major airlines provide crap service. I'm glad to see that you haven't comprimi
36 IAHERJ : Well said.
37 Delta-flyer : If I ever needed to go to CDG, I'd take a European Airline. Some of the major airlines provide crap service. I beg to differ. "Crap" service provided
38 Dutchjet : Concerning inflight service, we all know that so much depends upon the crew of a specific flight; I have had great flights with Sabena and horrible fl
39 Co LITE : I'll just go with who's cheapest when it comes time to fly. I really can't make up my mind from others opinions. I have heard United is horrible, but
40 DeltAirlines : Amen, DeltaSFO. I am planning a trip to ORF for next summer, and I will be flying Delta because: A.) They will still be around (can UA say that...I am
41 Oldelwood : I go along with support your american carriers! I fly Delta and Southwest because they fly only Boeing's!When you fly Mickey Mouse carriers like JB th
42 2cn : DeltaSFO... Everything that just came out of your mouth is one of the biggest lies I have heard, I fell over in my chair after reading your load of Bu
43 Ladevale : Let's get behind the facts shall we. DeltaSFO claims that "with United dying a slow and painful death and American floundering at the moment, Delta, w
44 Co LITE : This post has gotten interesting. 2Cn, how were the fares on your DL flights, just wondering. I find them to be too high most of the time.
45 2cn : Co Lite- My dad works for Delta, so we non rev. I only remember one fare off hand from my dad checking after we did the trip- LAX-JFK-LAX in BizElite.
46 Post contains images DeltaSFO : Ladevale... Your long post seems to be more fantasy than anything else.... DeltaSFO claims that "with United dying a slow and painful death and Americ
47 Post contains images Lowfareair : >>the F/A was busy serving the drinks to everyone before we departed the gate....Delta does serve good food-for dinner on my last flight, I had filet
48 RJ_Delta : Today Oct. 28 starts a new agreement between Delta Air Lines and El Al to serve Tel Aviv. The Delta customer will be able to purchase seats on El Al's
49 Delta-flyer : I fly Delta and Southwest because they fly only Boeing's!When you fly Mickey Mouse carriers like JB they fly Airbus!That puts american workers out of
50 2cn : So you had good FIRST CLASS food and were treated good by the F/As in FIRST CLASS. I've seen people who act arrogant be treated well there. But now ho
51 SFOintern : Pat-- Delta's international presence is overstated. If you remember, Delta overtook United on RPMs to Europe only last year (2000). thank u Bobnwa The
52 Critter592 : Well, Seems that I have learned a lesson from a certain pilot. He tells me not to judge an airline until I fly them, so,.. To DELTASFO: I will not cri
53 Post contains images Critter592 : Why don't we all just argue over Tower Air?
54 Co LITE : I am stepping out of this junk. I'll go to my nice quiet interests/Opinions now.
55 Cedarjet : "But now how about the food in coach compared to the B6 flights on the same route like NYC-Florida or NYC-UNY? Isn't it just snack mix? And the red-ey
56 2cn : Something interesting went over the company(Delta) news line on Friday to employees that I just learned about now, it said that they are already rethi
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