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The Good, Bad And Ugly European Airline?  
User currently offlineKONSTANTINOS From Greece, joined Jun 2001, 389 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2687 times:

So, what do you think ?

I like KLM and Vergin most.
Bad ones Alitalia, British and Cronus.
Ugly; Iberia, Alitalia, sabena.

and how about safety recorde ?

43 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineRoyalDutch From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 917 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2545 times:

KLM and Lufthansa rock, Bad would have to be Air France, and Iberian wins the hands down ugly award.

User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2535 times:

I quite like them all, they all have their small charactristics.

User currently offlineCyril B From France, joined Jun 2001, 396 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2502 times:

-Good ones: British Airways, Air France, Lufthansa, KLM
-pretty bad ones: Alitalia, Iberia
-Ugly: TAP, Czech Airlines, Air Lib


User currently offlineBA-747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2499 times:

good= virgin, bmi, KLM, air france, lufthansa
bad= TAP, olympic, alitalia,
and the ugly= sabena, SAS,


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6054 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2460 times:

Good: Conair/Premiair, SAS, Virgin
Bad: Dunno
Ugly: Swissair (but only due to their weird marketing strategy in regards to just buying & buying)


User currently offline*Niels* From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2448 times:

Good: KLM, Lufthansa, Spanair, BA, Air Berlin
BAD: Eurofly, Blue Panorama, TAP
Ugly: Luxair (because of there old-fashioned c/s)


User currently offlineBluebellyA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Good: Swissair, Lufthansa; Edelweiss is certainly beautiful
Bad: I haven't had a really 'bad' flight. British Airways has certainly pushed the envelope at times...
Ugly: TAP, Iberia (it's time,guys...)


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

BA certainly hasn't "pushed the envelope". They have excellent service, with an excellent safety record.

User currently offlineSevenair From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 1728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2386 times:

GOOD: BRITISH REGIONAL, GILLAIR
BAD: JMC
EVIL: EASYJET, VIRGIN(ALL)


User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2381 times:

Good: AF, AY, KLM, VS
Medium: Lufthansa
Bad: Monarch, JMC, BMI


User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

Also BA is good.

User currently offlineMb339 From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 238 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2349 times:

Eurofly is not a bad airline but it is very good.
Belive me.


User currently offline*Niels* From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

Ohh.... perhaps it is.
But my experiences with EEZ were not very great......


User currently offlineMb339 From Italy, joined Jun 2001, 238 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2299 times:

Where did you go with Eurofly?
And what was the type of aircraft?

Thanks



User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13745 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2296 times:

Good: Virgin Atlantic, bmi, LH, AF
Bad: The usual suspects
Ugly: British Airways, CSA, British Airways.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offline*Niels* From Netherlands, joined Aug 2001, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

It was in januari this year, and Eurofly flew a Alitalia flight AMS-MXP
The plane was the EI-CMM (MD-83), the stewardesses weren't nice at all. And I didn't get permission to watch in the cockpit... that's why

Niels


User currently offlineKONSTANTINOS From Greece, joined Jun 2001, 389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2227 times:

Ow yes, Lufthansa also very good.
any more out there wana comment?


User currently offlineIl76 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2004, 2239 posts, RR: 48
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2223 times:

from the airlines I've flown:

Good: KLM, Korean, Finnair
Medium: Lufthansa, SIA
Bad: BMI, Air France
Ugly: none

You'd expect SIA to be in the good section, but I don't like their 'robot-style' flight attendants. They recite their lines in front of you as they were in their schoolbook. brr... I like a more informal approach.


User currently offlineVS744 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 677 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2217 times:

GOOD: Virgin, BA, Lufthansa
BAD: Ryanair
UGLY: Olympic, Easyjet, KLM

btw: who are vergin?


User currently offlineUdo From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

I just want to rate the European airlines I have personally flown:

Best: British Airways
Good: Iberia, Air France, Deutsche BA
Not so good: Eurowings

WORST: Lufthansa (bad service, rude FAs, arrogant pilots and ground staff)


I wonder why LH is rated so well by many people...I guess most of them have never flown LH...



Regards
Udo



User currently offlineDjb77 From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2206 times:

Good: BA, Titan Airways, Air UK (before KLM got involved), Air Europa (charter)
Average: Lufthansa, Condor
Bad: KLM uk, KLM


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2205 times:

Udo, how often have you flown LH? Maybe you got some bad luck, or other people all got lucky with their aircraft and crew.

I've had some KLM flights that'd make you decide never to fly them again, others that were among the best service I ever had.
The same can be said about most airlines (with exceptions on both ends of the spectrum of course).



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineYorkie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2001, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Don't forget that in Sergio Leone's masterpiece Clint wasn't that good a guy - only compared to the other ones, but the audience needed to identify and side with one guy in the shoot-out. Perhaps all European airlines are bad or ugly.

User currently offlineGyro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

Don't worry, that's just UDO... If you do a search on him and Lufthansa, you'll find it's his usual little "putdown" for Lufthansa...

"I wonder why LH is rated so well by many people...I guess most of them have never flown LH... "

Well if its rated so well by many people and pretty much only put down by you... Maybe your conclusion should be the other way around...  Big grin





25 BCal DC10 : Good: BA, BMI Medium: LH, KLM Bad: Virgin Ugly: SleasyJet, JMC ll76, remind us when SIA became a European airline... I must have been out.
26 EZYcrew : Good : Swissair (really great cabin crew, clean and modern a/c), British Airways (the best service in the air and on the ground) Bad : Air France (nev
27 Vermeer : good: Lufthansa, SAS, Swissair, Braathens bad: My poor Alitalia, Olympic, Iberia ugly: Volare and Lauda ( although the crew is very nice their ground
28 Oldelwood : Of the ones I have flown: Good- British Airways,Lufthansa,KLM. Bad-Air France,Spanair. Real Ugly- Iberia!
29 Oldelwood : I would also include all IDIOT'S fromSWITZERLAND IN THE STUPID CATEGORY!
30 Tripple7 : Good: KLM, LH Average: BA, BM, SR, OS, BU Bad: AF, IB, OA, SN, SK Worst: AZ
31 Go Canada! : good:BA, klm, lufthansa bad:iberia, tap ugly@air france and scabiltilia not to mention cyprus airways, air malta and malev.
32 Schreiner : Cargolux is nice...
33 Nfx : what a useless thread... ...would be nice if anybody here mentiones WHY he/she believes airlines are good, bad or "ugly"...
34 Prebennorholm : Posts on this thread: Good: Nfx Bad: none Ugly: ....!
35 Fly707 : Good : British Airways , Air France , Iberia & Lufthansa Bad & Ugly : Malev , Sabena , Sas & Tarom.
36 Udo : Gyro, I will some day post my reasons why I dislike LH. Not today, I don't have three hours for writing now. About my logic: Yes, many people rate LH
37 Gyro : I'll wait for the post: "Udo's justification", then we can go on discussing... (I've waited for it quite long now too Udo....)
38 Schooner : N17085, funny how you can say bmi are bad when you haven`t flown with them ? Or pass judgement on VS, BA, KLM, AF or pretty much any other airline tha
39 NG737PSR : Oh well more fuel to the fire! Good: Excel Airways (Most punctual charter airline, most modern charter fleet in the UK - but then again I'm biased!) ,
40 Staffan : I've been on 4 flights with LH, and the service we got was good, one flight was late and they did everything they could to get us on the next flight,
41 RJ_Delta : Hi: Best: Lufthansa, British Airways, Air France. Bad: Alitalia, Olympic Airways, Sabena. Ugly: Iberia, Spanair, SAS. Best regards, RJ_Delta.
42 AirNewZealand : Man Alitalia must be bad!! Nearly everyone has said "bad"...ekk....i think Alitalia better buck up there ideas.....Dont you!! Has anyone had a good fl
43 Airblue : AirNewZeland said about Alitalia: "Has anyone had a good flight on them??" and that's a good question,but I want to ask to everybody who said that AZ
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