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AC Tango A320 Question  
User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1492 times:

AC has allocated specifically the 13 A320's inherited from CP to form the AC Tango fleet. Why? Were the 13 CP A320's not otherwise compatible with the existing AC A320's? They are all CFM.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
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User currently offlinePgh234 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 795 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

I dunno, but maybe those CP aircraft are still in CP colors and need to be repainted anyways? If you move over the AC fleet then you need to paint more planes then necessary. Just my guess.  Smile

pgh234


User currently offlineSonic99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1431 times:


There's at least two aircraft that wore a different rego than the one you mention (C-FMxx). One was actually painted in AC colours (although it was in CP colours before). Take a look:

Before:


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After:


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Here's a C-FPWE example:


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Stephan


User currently offlineBoeing747-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

I think it had something to do with the inner cabin. I think that the CP ones had the old CP seats and so Air Canada just revampt them with all AC economy class. why change somthing that is not in need of Replacement.

User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1407 times:

By the way, the flight number for AC Tango is AC6000 series.

User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1402 times:

The 13 planes were all former Canadian. Most I beleive were still in the original Canadian livery or in Proudwings. Also the interiors were Canadian's.


Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineJaseWGTN From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1388 times:

Is it true that you have to pay for advance seating on Air Canada Tango?

User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Yeah about 7 or 8 of the ex-CP 320s were in eithere Proud Wings or old CP. A couple were in transitional, while the remainder had full AC titles. But the interiors were still old CP. I flew on FIN401 in August, Full AC colours, but the interiors were still old CP. Cheaper to convert those to Tango than taking mainline aircraft. Plus, the 13 320s gives Tango its own series of fin numbers in the 400s, while keeping AC mainline buses in the 200 series of fins.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1367 times:

Thanks for your responses guys!

Neil/Toronto




Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineMarrty From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 1363 times:

The former CP A320's each require approximately $3 million in upgrades in order to match the AC 320's. This may have something to do with those a/c being used for Tango.

I'm not sure if these upgrades have been made or not, and I'm not sure what the upgrades entailed. I will find out and post them if someone else doesn't post the reasons in the meantime.


User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

I'm really very interested to hear what those upgrades are. If anyone know please speak up.


Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineTeej13 From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

How much work have they done to the interiors of the Tango planes? I'm sure there's at least a bit of stuff needed to go with the whole Tango scheme.

Go Leafs!
T.J.


User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1349 times:

Jase WGTN: According to Tango, as a special introductory offer, you're allowed to pre-book your seats, but the wording sounds like you'll eventually have to pay if you want to pre-book your seats.

Another thing I found interesting about Tango was that originally they were going to give you headphones for free, but now you'll have to pay $5 for them. Also some of the fares have been adjusted such as YYZ to YVR which has fallen $10 than originally published.


User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

Hey Marrty....yeah it would be great to hear about the CP A320 upgrades!

Thanks
Neil



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1327 times:

The only upgrades I can think of are the seats. But other than that you'd think that they are the same.


Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineSpyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1319 times:

You guys probably know this, but their website now has a seatmap of their A320 configuration. Maybe this could help in determining what they have done to the aircraft.

User currently offlineYow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1308 times:

If they were to be mainline, here are some thoughts on what might need to be overhauled, other than the seats: the overhead bins, the galleys, washrooms, new movie sceens under the bins instead of above the aisle, where nobody that is not in an aisle can't see them. Maybe some cockpit upgrades as well.

User currently offlineLymanm From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1294 times:

Every operator that buys new aircraft has their own individual set of options. While AC and CP's A320s both have CFM engines, there may be hundreds of smaller parts that are different. Beyond the passenger cabin (where you guys have already mentioned seats, in-flight phones, overhead bins, galleys, etc etc) things such as different model APUs, heavy-duty brakes, different avionics packages are all parts that an individual operator may choose. It's like choosing the options on your car...

For companies like US Airways, which was an amalgamation of many smaller carriers, you'll often find vastly different cockpit arrangements, despite the fact that all amalgamated companies operated the exact same type/model of aircraft (eg 737-200). This *can* be dangerous to crew in an emergency ("I thought the port wing #2 fire extinguisher panel was here...")




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