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What Stages Of Flight Do Most Crashes Occur  
User currently offlineMd11_man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

During what stage of flight do most accidents occur for commercial jets. I know for General aviation its while joining the circuit.

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User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

At takeoff when an engine hasn't done much, and then its reved up to full power.

User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

I believe it is TO and landing.


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User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

Yes landing as well.

User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

Most crashes occur on Landing.

User currently offlineAerLingus From China, joined Mar 2000, 2371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

Take-off, climbing to FL, approach, and landing. Usually, accidents don't happen often during the cruise.


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User currently offlineN17085 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5861 times:

Well I shouldn't say most crashes occur at takeoff, but an engine which has been sitting mostly idle and has not had much power applied to it, and then is asked to go full throttle down a runway in a matter of seconds, there is a big possibility for an engines failure, but not a crash.

User currently offlineAerokid From Belgium, joined Jun 2000, 348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5827 times:

Statistically, it's final approach and landing. These two stages of flight account for only 3% of the total flight time (on average) but 47% of all accidents occur during these stages.

That's why the Flight Safety Foundation has started a program to reduce this sort of accidents by half in the next 5 years.

Best regards,
GR.


User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4629 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5824 times:

You started a thread about "the same boring posts in here."

What do you think this one is? Do you know how many times this question has been posted?




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User currently offlineMd11_man From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5807 times:

I'm new as you can see. I haven't seen this one in here but within two months I've seen 3 or 4 "Whats your favorite Airliner."

Regards ,

Dan


User currently offlinePolAir From United States of America, joined May 2001, 893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5805 times:

Approach and touch down- combined about 35% of all accidents.

User currently offlineNAACREW From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 44 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 5800 times:

Lighten up VonRichtofen, it was a good question he was asking.

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6481 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5792 times:

Most accidents happen when something "gets in the way" - buldozers, scrap fallen off a DC-10, buildings, Cessna biz jets, SAM missiles.

That's rougly the statistics during the last well over a year.

Add to that one Tu-154 which was stalled on approach in Sibiria.

Regards, Preben Norholm



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5790 times:

Yeah really, dont make the situation worse than it is Vonny. I have been here for 2 years as of today and dont really recall seeing this question asked before.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5782 times:

Definitely landing. Btw I don't buy that idea about crashes on take off being caused by engine failure. I can only think of a very very few crashes have happened like that. Engine failure on the runway? Midwest Express DC9 (Milwaukee), El Al 747 (Amsterdam), none others I can think of...and both of these were in the climb (the AA DC10 at O'Hare doesn't count cos the engine worked fine, even after it left the wing due to structural failure).

So many crashes on landing. You can include almost all weather related accidents, almost all Controlled Flight Into Terrain (CFIT) accidents, almost all collisions, and much "pilot error".



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User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5769 times:

We don't usually consider it part of the flight I guess, but I seem to recall hearing that the most dangerous portion was on the ground, while taxiing or accelarating/deceleration. The amount of runway incursions and near misses on the ground is frightening, and every now and then it has disasterous consequences - Examples: Tenerifa, SQ1, SK686, etc...

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5767 times:

The ramp is by far the biggest source of insurance claims because of damage to the aircraft. But pax don't usually get hurt when a catering truck dings the side of the plane. So yes, the ramp is a nightmare for the safety of the aircraft but not to pax.


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User currently offlineBoeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5766 times:

I would say from the time a plane takes off to the time it lands would be the most critical time frame.

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