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AA Dumps Lhr?  
User currently offlineJiml1126 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1545 times:

Japanese civil-aviation magazine "Airline" (Nov, 2001) has reported all US airlines has cut 20% of its schedules, including American Airlines, which has said that it is considering to drop London Heathrow Airport's operation.

Is this true that AA is considering about it's operation at Heathrow?

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User currently offlinePhlflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1429 times:

I can not imagine there is any truth to that, especially if the BA/AA alliance is not panning out like they wanted.

User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1404 times:

BA and AA need eather other at Heathrow, especially for the slots. I very much doubt that AA would pull out.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1377 times:

Not a snowball's chance in hell.


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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16248 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1345 times:

Not a chance. LHR is the pre-eminent business destination in Europe. AA would never risk losing this important destination.

I can't even see them giving up LGW which links to their hub at DFW.

Neil



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3940 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1322 times:

I agree. If they were on the skids like TWA was in the mid 80s when they sold off their LHR slots then perhaps, but AA is far from being in that position.

Carty would be nuts to give up those highly valued slots. Though I would not mind seeing CO getting a shot at LHR if by some remote chance AA left. Can you imagine the frenzy between DL,CO,NW and possibly US in attempting just to get one of those slots ?


Thomas



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User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1296 times:

Sooner or later we'll get Open Skies, there's just a few gritty issues to get out of the way first (I think the main one is cabotage for British carriers in the US, the others are easier to resolve).

The cabotage requires change in legislation, and Congress approval, and the UK is adamant that this specific "problem" should be resolved before Open Skies; I am tired of the UK government's protective stance as regards LHR restrictions on other airlines;

Interestingly, when the UK government granted approval for UA & AA to take over PA & TWA's LHR services, it also managed to secure Seventh-freedom rights to the US; this means any British airline can operate a service to the US, from designated airports outside the UK.

Anyway, no, I highly doubt AA will be pulling out of LHR.

Regards


User currently offlineBaec777 From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

LHR is American's major hub for their European destinations. They wouldn't drop LHR. Otherwise, Virgin Atlantic would come to DFW from London [LHR].


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User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1254 times:

This is almost as bad as saying "AA drops DFW" There are over 100 cities AA would drop before LHR.

User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3118 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1232 times:
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What if United was "on the skids?" Or could one say that United is "on the skids" right now?

User currently offlineVirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1208 times:

CAArty would be smoking alot of bad crack to get rid of LHR. Although I would love to see CO do EWR-LHR or NWA doing a JFK-LHR-BOM. But UAL is in a bigger hole than AA.


"FUIMUS"
User currently offlineFleet service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1205 times:

AA is NOT pulling out of LHR.We have reduced the number of JFK-LHR flights from 5 to 3.Thats all,no pullout from the market.


Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1193 times:

AA has just reduced service to LHR:

Nov:
ORD (3x) 3 777
JFK (4x) 1 AB3, 3 777
BOS (2x) 2 AB3
MIA (1x) 1 777
LAX (1x) 1 777
EWR (1x) 1 AB3

Cuts include 1 ORD, 1 JFK, 1 LAX.
Note how AA isn't flying any 763's for the time being to LHR.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8093 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1188 times:

Eight 777s a day, four A300s. That's hefty. Nearly as many seats a day at LHR as Virgin.


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User currently offlineBlink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5480 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

LHR would be the last european airport that American would drop. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of their LHR routes rank among their top 3 profitable international routes.
rgds,
blink182



Give me a break, I created this username when I was a kid...
User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1137 times:

Nonsense. Heathrow slots, the sheer right to serve it, is a priviledge and an asset neither UA or AA would be foolish enough to dump. However, the BA/AA alliance will never progress beyond what it already is and the likelihood of Heathrow opening up to other US carriers is next to zero. American should shop for another European partner.

ContinentalEWR


User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32733 posts, RR: 72
Reply 16, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1098 times:

Baecc, what are you talking about? Virgin cannot fly DFW-LHR in the first place.


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User currently offlineRipcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1043 times:

they fly 1 767 into lhr fl90 ord-lhr 9am flight...LHR is prob their most profiitable route in their entire system

User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1047 times:

AA 90 goes up to a 777 Nov. 1st, thus no more AA 763's at LHR for the time being.

User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1833 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 980 times:

I can't see AA dropping LHR, unless Carl Icahn suddenly becomes CEO.


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User currently offlineSin777er From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 970 times:

London is a profitable destination for almost every airline! Why would AA be crazy enough to cancel it?

User currently offlineRWally From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 555 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 871 times:

There's no way AA would drop LHR. Especially if this whole AA/BA thing goes through.

Speaking of which, this article came out today:
WASHINGTON, Oct. 29 /PRNewswire/ -- David S. Stempler, President of the
Air Travelers Association, announced today that the Association had submitted
its comments to the U.S. Department of Transportation on the proposed American
Airlines ("AA")/British Airways ("BA") alliance, which seeks full authority
for codesharing, marketing, and schedule coordination. Stempler stated, "With
airlines on both sides of the Atlantic cutting service, and the possibility of
airline bankruptcies and consolidations, now, more than ever, airline
passengers need the benefits that an AA/BA alliance will provide."
The following are the key points made by the Air Travelers Association in
its DOT filing.

1. An American Airlines/British Airways Alliance will provide price,
schedule, and frequent flyer competition for other international
airline alliances.

2. An American Airlines/British Airways Alliance will serve as a
catalyst for U.S./U.K. open skies, which will open London Heathrow
Airport to all U.S. and U.K. airlines.

3. Any required slot divestiture by an American Airlines/British Airways
Alliance at London's Heathrow Airport would be counterproductive by
reducing competition with other international airline alliances.

4. The necessity of an American Airlines/British Airways Alliance is
increased during this period of industry-wide financial crisis.

The Air Travelers Association is passenger-funded organization, based in
Washington, DC, which is both a representative and advocate for its airline
passenger members. The Association focuses on passenger safety, security,
savings, and service issues. It publishes the Airline Accident Report
Card(C), which provides report card grades for the world's airlines based on
their fatal accident histories, and provides membership in Travelers
Advantage(R), one of the largest, full-service, discount travel services in
the United States. David S. Stempler, President of the Air Travelers
Association, is an internationally known authority on airline, airline
passenger, and travel issues.

_______________________________________________

RWally


User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3403 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (12 years 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 816 times:

i must say that i fail to see how AA/BA giving up slots would hurt anyone but aa/Ba.


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