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WHy DTW And Not MSP (NWA)  
User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 11 months ago) and read 501 times:

I don't understand. Why does NWA base most of its international flights out of DTW while MSP is larger? THey have tons of international flight out of DTW and only 4 or 5 out of MSP. I mean, I like NWA but they have screwed consumbers over at MSP by not letting other European airlines in because they are so powerful there. ANyone know why this is?

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32789 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (12 years 11 months ago) and read 424 times:

Because DTW is the bigger international O&D market. Same with Houston-based Continental, with it's biggets international operations at Newark, Dallas-based American, with it's main international gateway in Miami, and Washington-based USAirways with it's main interantional gateway in Philadelphia (which is thier smallest of thier three major hubs).

User currently offlineZeus01 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 402 times:

OK thanks. But about AA, isn't the largest international departures out of ORD? MIA doesn't seem to have as many flights as ORD.

User currently offlinePSU_DTW_SCE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 378 times:

DTW has most of the international flights because of:

1. Its O&D traffic for local businesses. The Big 3, and numerous Fortune 500 companies are in the Detroit area. Most world automakers have facilities or suppliers in southeastern MI. Many more international companies than Minneapolis/St. Paul.

2. More centrally located for connecting traffic. MSP is too far North and West to get most connecting traffic to Europe. Detroit can pull European traffic from all of the midwest, the south, west-coast. MSP would limit the traffic from the midwest since most would actually be back tracking (ex. IND-MSP-FRA vs. IND-DTW-FRA or BNA-DTW-CDG vs BNA-MSP-CDG) DTW allows for a shorter crossing time than going into MSP.
As for Pacific traffic, most importantly its the O&D traffic, but its also more logical to have a majority of your trans-Pac & trans-Atlantic ops from the same location.

As for European carriers, they would be relying on O&D traffic in MSP and that simply doesn't exist for most routes.