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Unreleased: SQ1 Discovered "White Powder" Onboard.  
User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Just been informed by SQ staff that SQ1 on its way to Hong Kong from San Francisco has been discovered a pack of "White Powder".Crew found the White Powder in the toilet, and informed the pilot immediately, and Pilot informed SQ Singapore Quarter, and then to Hong Kong station.

All passengers have NOT been informed by this "White Powder" Suspicion.All passengers are safe at the moment and SQ1 is on its way to Hong Kong, arriving at normal scheldue 06:40am HKG time.Ground Staff os SIA HK station have been informed to standby at airport and office.However, SQ1 will not enter CLK as an emergency landing, but jsut a normal landing.All Passnegers will NOT be allowed to leave the plane after arrival due to safety reasons.

Will Keep You Updated.
Best Regards



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User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

are you serious here????

you mean the SQ1 that will arrive on 1/11????

hope this is just another sick joke.........

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User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

Yes, SQ1 that will arrive here in Hong Kong tomorrow morning.And I'm very very serious.

But i also think this is another sick joke of Anthrax.
Anyways, let's hope it is.

Best Regards


User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

The plane will be parked at outer bay.
Also, the powder was discovered in Economy Class, by a crew while cleaning up the toilet.

The toilet has been locked up right now.

That's all i've got for the time being.

Best Regards


User currently offlineCathay Pacific From Australia, joined May 2000, 1864 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1899 times:

why they dun turn back or stop at HNL???


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User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

Quite interesting, how fast this news is. We know about it sitting in our homes on the ground, while the pax of the plane haven't even got a clue yet.... Ironic.

So they will be put under quarantine because some jerk made a hoax. If it were up to me, all those hoaxers would be put in prison for a few months.

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineBombayhog From United States of America, joined May 2001, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1876 times:

How did you happen to be informed by SQ staff about this?



User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

SQ1 didn't turn to HNL because the flights is already halfway.Not close to HNL i should say.Don't ask me why it's not heading for Taipei, Tokyo, Seoul etc.I've no idea.

Pilots make all the decisions, and i think we should believe him.Maybe heading straight for Hong Kong would be better.It's only the 2 pilots that could make the best decision.We here on the ground won't know for the time-being what's happening up there till the plane is on the ground.

May god bless this is only a sick joke.


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 8, posted (12 years 9 months 16 hours ago) and read 1864 times:

Maybe it was soap...

User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (12 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

The person (s) who did this have a sick mind. Do they realise that it has been a year since our beloved SQ6 crashed? Bloody cold-heatedness in the highest heavens. God curse them.


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineBanco From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 14752 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (12 years 9 months 15 hours ago) and read 1824 times:

I suspect EGGD is correct. It will be something along those lines. There have already been cases where the alert has gone out about white powder in the toilets on board aircraft and surprise, surprise it turns out to be baby powder. There are so many innocuous substances that take the form of white powder but in such troubled times no-one can afford to take the risk that it's something more. Even then it's probably accidental, rather than a malicious hoax.

It's nothing new, whenever there is an event of such magnitude then "overreactions" take place. I put that in inverted commas because there isn't really much choice. Remember after Chernobyl there was a mass panic every time there was the slightest problem at a nuclear power plant. It's just the nature of the beast, everyone is hyper-sensitive at the moment.

I really hope this is just another example.



She's as nervous as a very small nun at a penguin shoot.
User currently offlineRed Panda From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2000, 1521 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (12 years 9 months 11 hours ago) and read 1747 times:

don't worry. it's very likely baby powder.

 Wink/being sarcastic
R Panda


User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (12 years 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 1701 times:

SQ 1 has landed safely at HKG international airport.
After authorities and staff boarded the plane everything seems to be fine.Looks like it's a joke then.

SQ1 is ready to depart for Singapore.


User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (12 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Another example of 'money comes first'. If they had really suspected that it was antrax then why not divert? Tokyo is a good few hours closer than Hong Kong, and if it was anthrax, a few hours could mean the difference between 100 people being infected, and 200 people being infected. If they did not suspect it was anthrax, then why bother telling the authorities at all? Either it was suspected or it wasn't.

I am not singling out SQ here, as I am sure many tight fisted money grabbing airlines would have done the same by continuing, but imagine that it was anthrax. Imagine the critisism that SQ would have got for not diverting immediately. When it comes to safety, there should be no compromise. Bad SQ.


User currently offlineSingapore 777 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (12 years 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 1650 times:

You know CXflyboy, that was something along my lines of thought. The pilot knew the powder could be something potentially like anthrax...he should have diverted immediately. Whether or not it was really anthrax, such risks should not have been taken. Imagine the 400 or so people on board the aircraft who could have been infected once the "anthrax" spores went into the aircraft air-conditioning unit. An aircraft cabin is a claustrophobic area and any spores or infection would spread very very quickly.

"Money comes first..." unfortunately so. SQ has not learnt its lesson it seems from the Taipei tragedy.


User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (12 years 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 1608 times:

What the hell? IF SQ1 were to divert to NRT all the passengers would be alarmed. The pilots and flight attendants would not allow that to happen.

Just think, if a Cathay flight were to encounter the same SICK joke, CXflyboy's colleagues might have done the same thing and continue flying to HKG!

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User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 16, posted (12 years 9 months ago) and read 1602 times:

9V-SVA,

I agree with you, my colleagues might have done the same. My management would quite possibly have applied pressure to the crew to continue to HKG. If I was on board I would make it very very clear that I think it is a very bad idea. If the commander decides to continue then so be it, however I would not be happy and I would make that known, and if there a real incident I would make that known in the report.
However, whats wrong with having the passengers alarmed? In this case there WAS cause for alarm. If a white powder is found in the White House, don't they evacuate it? Doesn't that alarm people? Yes, but it's for their safety. If I was a passenger on SQ1, I would be alarmed that we did not divert and that I had to spend an extra few hours breathing stuff which was suspected as possibly being harmful. I would be extremely pissed off right now and would be writing a few very strongly worded letters to the management and to the civil aviation authority of Singapore.


User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (12 years 9 months ago) and read 1596 times:

Yes, there was cause for alarm, but the captain decided not to tell the people for fear that they might riot in the plane, which is NOT conducive. Anyway, the toilet was SEALED and all ventilation to it was cut off.


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User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 18, posted (12 years 9 months ago) and read 1585 times:

It's very hard to say guys.

The powder was found ON the ground in the toilet, and was not spread over actually, but was in a bag.

In this situation, pilot could say that sealing the toilet would be already safe.And putting the powder in some box, or maybe the powder wasn't spread out.However, IF the powder was spread in the cabin, no doubt the pilot would make an emergency landing at the nearest airport!

And why did he not inform the passengers?Possibily because it was the CREW who found the powder.Also, it depends on lots of situations.I can't say who's wrong, who's right.But in my memories, SQ1 is the first airline to get this kind of "Threat" on such a long-haul route.

Sometimes the managements give pressure, but i heard that it was the pilot that made the decision.The powder was found after sometime, not just after takeoff.If SQ1 just left SFO, i'd agree with others turning the plane back to SFO.Also, if it was not the crew but a passenger that discovered the white powder...that'd be another story.So should it land or not?I can't tell.thank god everything was alright at the moment.

I also hope that SIA could make a news release.Media would be posting news of SQ1 tomorrow likely and i'll see what SIA HK station told the press.

Anyways, SQ1 departed for Singapore at 8:55, an hour behind scheldue.Thank god it was only a joke.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 19, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1579 times:

I agree with 9V-SPK. The crew did what they thought was best. Diverting to Narita would have alarmed passengers and that would just cause panic and could provide unwanted sub-situations.

SQ has been targeted quite heavily it seems since September 11. Three terrorist hoazxes, including one in Germany where the Megatoppy was accompanied with 2 German fighters, and now this. It's very sick and sad.

CX_Flyboy: If you were an SQ passenger on that flight you would not have been alarmed. You would not have known what was hapenning.




Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offlineHkgspotter1 From Hong Kong, joined Nov 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

If I knew the truth I would have ASKED the pilot to land at the first airport in what ever county. This was very silly to continue to Hong Kong.

I would like to know what the pilots reason was for this.


If another SQ pilot did not want to ALARM the passengers he would have checked which runway he was using before taking off !!!, but thats another matter.


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

HKGSPOTTER1: HOW DARE YOU. Have you no heart whatsoever to our grievances? How dare you?! I cannot believe your lack of compassion and sympathy. How dare you! You horrible, nasty and totally out-of-order person.

Judging by your posts, I'd say that you were one of the people in the world that wanted Singapore Airlines to crash? Are you happy that 83 people perished.

How absurd! I cannot believe you! I am shocked. I just hope you're happy that 83 people died.



Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
User currently offline9V-SVA From Singapore, joined Aug 2001, 1860 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1556 times:

I think that he might be happy if his favourite airline, Cathay crashed bringing down all the people on a certain flight. DAMN HYPOCRITE.


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User currently offline9V-SPK From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2001, 1646 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1555 times:

Hey Singapore_Air, nevermind.He has every right to post his opinions here.

Actually i know Daryl.I think he's forgotten me because we haven't had contacts for quite some time.He told me himself that he'd never travel on SQ and told me SQ pilots always make dangerous landings at Kai Tak and also told me pilots were inexcperienced for SIA if i remember correctly.

Doesn't really matter i should say.Different people have different views, just there are fans of Korean Air, which i'm quite honest to say I'm not.So Singapore_Air, you don't have to argue with HKSPOTTER1 actually.Because there are lots who hates SIA because it's one of the greatest airline or one of the worst airline and you won't have that much time to explain!

Ah anyways, you don't have to explain.Look at SIA.Proitable airline...new aircrafts...lots of passengers choose SIA!I think that explains

Let's remain a good relationship shall we people?

Best Regards


User currently offlineSingapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13738 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (12 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1519 times:

OK, but I'm still shocked someone could say such things.


Anyone can fly, only the best Soar.
25 Post contains images 9V-SPK : Don't worry. Not many people could say sort of things...no offence but not from humans mouth i should say, except some bastards, cold-blooded and so o
26 Hkgspotter1 : 9V-SPK, How many times did you speak with me ?? How many times have you spoken to him ??? I spent a lot of time talking to you and look what you say t
27 Post contains images Cathay Pacific : i think SQ should have diverted to the nearest airport when the 'white powder' was discovered, the reason i say this is because, no one knows how long
28 Mr.BA : Don't flame me here, just my personal opinions. I think that the pilot should have diverted to Honolulu. My friend came across this news in Singapore
29 OdiE : OK. I do not want to side anyone here, but this is to MY personal opinion. I would had said this if it happens to any airline. They should really make
30 Marara : I know i would have liked to have known what was going on. I also would have liked to have gotten off the plane ASAP.
31 Post contains images 9V-SPK : Hey HKSPOTTER1, Actually i've talked to both you and Singapore_Air.And if it was Singapore_Air or someone else who spoke something you just said, i'd
32 EGGD : Don't you think it would be better to have 200 alarmed passengers than 200 dead passengers? I think SIA made the wrong decision..
33 Carmy : It's sick how Hkgspotter can be so gleeful that there was an accident. sick sick sick. Anyway, back to the topic, the commander makes the final decisi
34 9V-SPK : Here's what i got after SQ1 landed in C.L.K. When SQ1 landed, airport authorities and staff immediately boarded the plane.Detecters were used to detec
35 Johnboy : This is sounding like a Monty Python skit. If this were anthrax, I would think everyone would take antibiotics anyway. Whether you travel 9 hours or 1
36 Singapore_Air : On another note, would this have happenned if 9 / 11 didn't ocurr? I think not. 31 October 2000 - SQ006 RIP
37 Cathay Pacific : but 9/11 did happened and that is why there are anthrax mail in the US..which led to the death of 4(?) people
38 Cx flyboy : I would much much rather have an airline over react to safety than one which didn't react enough, and as a result, possibly endangered the lives of th
39 Carmy : CX_flyboy: I think you're comparing apples aith oranges here. If there was a bomb threat, any reasonable person would land the plane immediately and e
40 Aviasian : I would like to congratulate Carmy for taking this discussion back on track. Hkgspotter1's reference to the SQ6 accident is sick, in bad taste and pos
41 Cx flyboy : I think you are all blowing HKGspotter1's comment way out of proportion and over reacting, but, that's my opinion.
42 Post contains images 9V-SVA : Thanks Carmy for explaining it to the CX fans who always blast SIA at the slightest little thing. Obviously you do not understand. A bomb can kill in
43 Post contains images N17085 : Cocaine....
44 9V-SPK : To everyone, Seems that all of you would only agree on one suggestion.Either land or continue, either inform or not. Here I would like to make a short
45 Sin777er : Very Well said, 9V-SPK.
46 Carmy : Hear! hear!
47 Cx flyboy : I have stated all along that it is my opinion. The SQ commander is free to do as he wishes. He is the commander. However if I were on his crew I would
48 Ryu2 : These hoaxes seem to be very frequent. Maybe planes should carry field anthrax testing kits, and at least one FA should be trained to use them? They w
49 Post contains images 9V-SVA : CX flyboy, I am not holding off immediate vaccination, but just by delaying it for one or two hours will not make a difference. As for the buildings,
50 Cx flyboy : Making an immediate landing and continuing to HKG is a big difference. I do not know at what stage of the flight the SQ crew found the stuff. Maybe ne
51 Ryu2 : Well, 16:22 CET (the time of the original post on this thread -- obviously the latest time that they could have discovered it) is about 01:22 Hong Kon
52 Singapore_Air : A lot of tension, comments from me later!
53 KaiTakFan : You know everyone has their good points, and logic on this topic. But it does none of you good to continue to battle the subject of what was right or
54 Mandala499 : Typical sequence of questions in the pilot's head: 1. Are lives in immediate (timewise) danger? (patch through HQ would determine NO) 2. Is there an i
55 Cx flyboy : Actually, the bomb search plans are in each CX pilots manuals at home and sitting in the manuals in the cockpit and not sealed at all.
56 Cathay Pacific : should it be sealed???? is it something that considered to be highly confidential????
57 9V-SPK : Of course it should be sealed! For safety reasons obviously, no matter if it's confidential not. Best Regards
58 VC-10 : Could I just say here air from Lavs & Galls is not re-circulated but is ducted through the Lav & Galley Vent system directly overboard.
59 Cx flyboy : I suppose that makes sense, rather than have smelly smells waft through the cabin!!!! Having said that sitting in the cockpit you can always tell when
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