Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6235 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1901 times:
Great add that one of only an Argentinian Knows how iit feels to be back ikn the air. Great to see such a great airline back in the air and hopefully iit will do better than ever. Buena Suerte Aerolineas.
AeroArgentina From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 192 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1880 times:
I know the airline was talking about Tel Aviv but plans are not concrete. They are also talking about South Africa, somewhere in Asia, and Cuba. Can Tel Aviv be made non-stop from Buenos Aires??? It seems like a long ways away. I would think that they would stop in Madrid. Anyways do you think that there is a market share to fly this route from Argentina? I know there is a large Jewish population in Argentina but I don't think it would be wise to fly this route (esp. now with the current situation, just my 2 cents though).
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1878 times:
Nice to see they're back-but they have lots of work to do before they regain the trust of Argentines like me, who only use BA to fly to EZE now.
They should concentrate on flying where the money is; I think it is great to have an Argentine presence in South Africa, Asia etc. but will it really be profitable?, or are they just trying to look good?
They also really have to work hard on the customer service side-that means polite & helpful staff, which make a big impression on the passenger; so far, I haven't seen this @ AR-maybe they should see how the European airline staff @ EZE do it.
BTW, is it just me, or was the commercial meant to depict an A340 taking-off @ aeroparque Jorge Newbury!!!!
Bacardi182 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1868 times:
i was just about to sya that! The picture does look allot like an A340 taking off from aeroparque! that is a great airport! love flying in with buildings above the airplane, but it could never be done in an A340. could it?
LAPA_SAAB340 From Spain, joined Aug 2001, 390 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
I'm positive that's aeroparque jorge newbery in the picture, the airbus has just been pasted on it Although they have squeezed a 707 into there before!
Capt Picard, I agree with you when you mention the new routes they're considering. I think it's better to concentrate on the profitable ones and make an effort to improve their service rather than serve exotic destinations that might not even be profitable.
I also hope they come up with a nicer livery! I was pretty much appaled when the current livery replaced the older one, it's too plain.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33282 posts, RR: 71
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1823 times:
AeroArgentina, yes, EZE-TLV can be made non-stop. Despite the current situation in Israel, there is still a surprisingly decent amount of demand to Israel, but it is mostly form the US, and mostly everyone who goes to Israel flies El Al. Buenos Aires' Jewish population is one of the ten largest in the world, and, right now, the easiest way for them to get to Israel is by connecting with El Al in Miami or JFK, Iberia in Madrid, or Alitalia in Milan, all of which are pretty out of the way.
Capt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1803 times:
I have to express my doubts about this Tel Aviv service everyone is dreaming of.
I just can't see the point; sure, there are plenty of Jews in Argentina, but does this automatically make the route viable?
What will really matter is premium pax & cargo potential.
A couple of Jewish families wanting to fly to Israel is not what Aerolineas (or any airline) needs; it needs *business*-in the form of cargo, or people wanting to fly in First or Business class.
I also have my doubts about South Africa. This strikes me as being totally a leisure route, with few businessmen wanting to use such a service (especially with the terrible state of Argentina's economy).
I flew with Malaysian on this route twice, on the 744 (non-combi)-on both occasions, First Class had the grand total of ONE pax, and NO pax in Business. Unless they were flying tonnes of lucrative cargo, Malaysian would have caertainly been losing money on this route.
Guys, let's be realistic here.
Aerolineas has much more urgent priorities than flying mickey-mouse routes.
It needs to restructure, lay-off the huge number of staff which are costing it money, and focus on flying to places which will really bring in the profit.
Don't want to sound harsh, but I personally feel that Aerolineas will just shoot itself in the foot again if it tries to expand like crazy without solving some serious problems at home first.
Lima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (13 years 1 month 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
Tel Aviv plans are not really new. Back in 1979/80 it was evaluated as an extension from Rome. The route could be flown with A340 to Rome nonstop and then TLV. Wheter if it would be profitable or not, that is the main issue.
I had seen twice the A310 at Aeroparque and years before the 707 too. When the Pope visited in 1986 it arrived with a Lan Chile 767. But the A340 ad is certainly pasted.
: LV-ARG I'm pretty sure the presidential plane is an Airbus 320 of some sort. I could be wrong though.
: No, the presidential Airplane is a 757.. When Lapa got his 767 ER they did the inauguration party at Aeroparque so they landed the aircraft there.. bu
: If they are not still part-owned by American, perhaps they could end up in partnership with Continental, which would give them access to Newark and Ho